Keyshawn Johnson: Bruce Arians Is “Sending A Message” With Suh Signing
May 23rd, 2019
Keyshawn weighs in
New JoeBucsFan.com intern Zach Seifter is steadily moving toward manbeast status.
The young student out of the University of Florida is a grinder at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters, and he rarely loses a remote or leaves open the company refrigerator.
Today, Zach took on Joe-like research and listened to yesterday’s ESPN Radio morning show out of Los Angeles to hear what ex-Bucs star Keyshawn Johnson had to say about Ndamukong Suh coming to Tampa.
Keyshawn is dialed in to all things Rams (Suh’s former team) as he co-hosts daily in the City of Angels. He likes the Suh-McCoy swap for the Bucs and believes it is a bit of a wash on the field but more valuable for culture change.
“It’s so funny because Bruce Arians was asked about Suh and he didn’t want to comment on it until he learned that Suh’s a free agent, you can talk to him,” Keyshawn said. “He’s like ‘Oh, yeah we’ll see if it works out.’ You know, but he didn’t even want to comment at first because I guess he really didn’t know the rules of free agency in terms of being able to discuss a guy that’s not under contract.”
“[McCoy and Suh] are about the same. About the same. … Yeah but you’re moving on from a guy that’s been there plus as a head coach, you’re sending a message to the rest of the team that I just got rid of one of the most dominant players of his era at this position for your team. I’m moving on now so be careful.”
Joe agrees wholeheartedly. There’s no reason to think the Suh-McCoy switch will translate to significant overall production, but it should let every Buccaneer know that any player can be launched at any time.
Perhaps a Morris Claiborne-Vernon Hargreaves swap is next.
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:26 pm
Please believe me.
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:29 pm
Not gonna lie …I like the deal for 9.25 mil
And I Hope he meets incentives and gets his 10 mil
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:30 pm
A new broom sweeps clean.
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:30 pm
i doubt we make that swap…..the move sent a message to VHG, LVD and others on the team…..
mental toughness and on field production will keep you on the team….nice guys come in last….ask GMC….
GO BUCS!!!!!
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:31 pm
“I make the best swaps, believe me. Tremendous progress!”
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:34 pm
LVD DOES NOT = mental toughness.
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:42 pm
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE MONEY… IT WAS ABOUT ATTITUDE!
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:47 pm
For a lot of us who want to move on from GMC, it never was about GMC personally, it’s purely about his lack of production for the amount he is making. Our team is in salary cap hell. The message was clearly put out there and GMC refused to give a discount to the franchise that made him a mult-millionaire, so management decided this is where we breakup. They couldn’t trade him. They didn’t want to add insult to injury by offering less money, and GMC couldn’t see himself play in a rotational role, and he’d only play the 3tech. It had to be done.
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:57 pm
A wash on the field but at 9.25 mil instead of 13 mil.
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:58 pm
I agree it sends an important message there is going to be accountability by BA and nobody is untouchable. These players know they have to produce to their best ability or BA will find somebody who will to replace them. BA is not here to stroke egos. He wants to win a Super Bowl as a Head Coach. He has a Super Bowl Ring as an OC for Pittsburg but that is not the same as Chucky’s Super Bowl Ring as a HC. He also knows it is harder to get it with a former losing Franchise but that makes it an even sweeter goal for him. Deep down these players are ready to win too!
May 23rd, 2019 at 5:59 pm
Well done Mr Licht!
Looking forward to seeing what this defense becomes.
May 23rd, 2019 at 6:04 pm
Props to Licht for making this move!! We’ll find out this season if it was the correct thing to do.
Now offer Brate and some draft picks to the Jets or Texans and go get Leonard or Jadeveon. Then release JPP with an injury settlement.
Ndamukong Suh, Vita Vea, Leonard Williams or Jadeveon Clowney. That would be a dominant front. Our LBs would have a field day with those three in front of them
May 23rd, 2019 at 6:12 pm
It was just time for a new voice and a new leader, our 5th overall pick would have just made Geraldine look bad
May 23rd, 2019 at 6:14 pm
Yeahhhhhh def take VH3 over Morris Claiborne Joe…..
May 23rd, 2019 at 6:38 pm
I think it will make a difference specifically on 3rd&2 or 3rd&4 teams won’t just run right at McIceCream to pick up the first down.
I think Suh will help get the defense off the field. I think it will also make a difference when we have a 4th qrt lead and need a few stops to win the game.
Those 1st and 2nd qrt sacks never really made a huge difference bc once McIceCream sacked a qb the defense gave up the first down in the next play.
Essentially we got Shaq Barrett and Suh for the same money we were spending on McIceCream that’s a win-win for me.
May 23rd, 2019 at 6:39 pm
If Suh comes in here and helps take us to the playoffs and beyond, it will sure make Geraldini look bad.
May 23rd, 2019 at 6:46 pm
Bucs, Ndamukong Suh agree to one-year, $9.25 million contract
-pft
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:09 pm
Put the stats away. Toughness and attitude rule the day. No more First step to nowhere leaving a gapping hole for Kwon to fill, who overran the play.
Vea and Suh – try to run through that. If you succeed- Devin White will have something to say – but all you’ll hear is bells ringing and tweetie birds.
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:12 pm
Yeah the culture change
Now they are a “Dirty” 5-11 team
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:17 pm
Dang right he is sending a message. He will send them multiple times a day if need be. Losing will not be accepted. All you 6-10 screamers out there havnt been paying attention or dont know where to look.
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:20 pm
Now let me clear something up for you Joe. Suh and 93 are different ends of the stratosphere. While being second only to Aaron Donald in tackles for lost over the last five seasons,that should tell you had those running plays been passing plays there is no telling what his recent years sack total would add up to. Simply put his brand of football places him in opposing teams backfields a H3ll of a lot more often.
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:25 pm
Our Team had an arrogance and toughness that’s teams feared thanks to Sapp. We haven’t had that since, until now. You can keep your stats. Having Dogs on our team makes a huge difference. It’s a team attitude shift, not just the D. I’m confident that Brees, Clown, and Marty are not happy about this. And that says it all! We have a real head coach, awesome assistant coaches, and a punch you in the mouth team now. Reminds me of 2001.
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:29 pm
Yah think?? Between VGHIII having his “ mental health” time and signing Suh, I think the message is loud and clear. You either buy in to the program and leave everything on the field or it’s next man up time! I know a lot of posters are still wallowing in the dumps because “their guy” wasn’t picked in the draft or during free agency but we STILL don’t even know who will be on this team come kick off time. The message is clear. Get on the A Train from day one or get out of the way. Train is getting ready to leave the station. GO Bruce. GO BUCS!
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:38 pm
I don’t have a problem with a team moving away from McCoy as the team has not been good in years. I do find it funny that so many are blaming McCoy for this team losing when there are so many weak players on the roster. I hope with the change we win more games but this team winning and losing is so much more than just one player.
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:41 pm
This is really all that needs to be said.
This post nails it.
No more “leaders” with their hands on their hips looking up at the jumbotron after getting your a** beat like a drum.
We need guys that don’t even know there’s a jumbotron and get right back to the huddle and put a stop to the sh*t.
TOUGHNESS!!!!
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:46 pm
Weak people allow weak teammates and co-workers to continue the sh*t-show.
Real successful people (in business and in sports) do not allow this to happen or they leave after trying everything they can (yes, to the point of career sabotage) to stop the problems.
I don’t care how much money I make, if I’m part of a half-a**ed, losing organization and get embarrassed at every turn; I’ll never be happy and I’ll call out everyone that needs to be (in a professional manner).
Losing is for losers.
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:51 pm
In each of the goal line stands we’ve had in 2 years McCoy was not on the field.
May 23rd, 2019 at 8:29 pm
“LOL the clueless franchise and the clueless fanbase
you can scare, play mental games, best buddies, smoke weed together, threesomes…
you can do whatever you want to players without talent
the best teams acquire the best and most talent on their teams thru the draft and FA under the restraints of the salary cap
the most talented teams and rosters makes the playoffs
its that simple
WE ARE GOING BACKWARDS”
Kobe The Buc Realist Faker
May 23rd, 2019 at 8:35 pm
I get a kick out of “Licht this” “Licht that”……..Licht shouldn’t get the credit or the blame from the moment BA & Bowles came on board….
How do you think this went down.
Licht to Bowles “Hey Todd, I picked up Suh for your defense…..hope you like that.”
The entire GMC/Suh transactions have Todd Bowles written all over them with maybe a bit of BA on the GMC part.
May 23rd, 2019 at 8:40 pm
Darin and Sosuhme,couldn’t have been said any better man.
May 23rd, 2019 at 8:50 pm
Bruce + Suh = Culture Change.
Culture Change = Winning.
May 23rd, 2019 at 8:57 pm
Hell yes it will make a huge difference, Joe get your head out of McCoys Jock !!! The difference on the field starts before practice, after practice , in conversation, in character , in being real not fake no matter your talent or production !!! Hell f ing ya every db will be better because of this, your rookie lb will be better, your coach will kiss less player arss, Joe get McCoys Jupe washed off !!! And And never Re apply !!!! Seriously!!! No Beer for Joe for a Week for being McCoy Weak !! Penalty Box !!
May 23rd, 2019 at 9:29 pm
That first step by McCoy was impressive. I’ll admit that. I also was never a McCoy hater but it’s that 2nd step and beyond that just wasn’t good enough. There are 13 million reasons why.
May 23rd, 2019 at 9:34 pm
Scotty in Fat Antonio
“LVD DOES NOT = mental toughness.”
Didn’t know you were his psychiatrist. LVD DOES = BADASS PLAYER. Far from what McCoy brought to the table.
May 23rd, 2019 at 9:44 pm
The Bucs will be signing ‘Finch” next from Wildcats fame.
May 23rd, 2019 at 9:51 pm
Guess those PFF people like his play. They’ve graded him over 80 the last four years. I guess they realize theirs more to DLine play than the occasional meaningless sacks. Have I mentioned he finish 2nd only to Aaron Donald in.. Nevermind I believe I have.
May 23rd, 2019 at 9:52 pm
Aaron Donald sacks by year:
2014 – 9
2015 – 11
2016 – 8
2017 – 11
2018 – 20.5
Gerald McCoy never made anyone around him better. Anyone want to say the same thing about Suh?
Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.
Suh has 240 tackles in the past 4 years. McCoy has 143. The object of the game of football on defense is to tackle the ball carrier.
That’s 25 plays a year, each year, over the past 4 years, Suh makes and Geraldini FAILS TO MAKE.
Play makers make plays. Suh’s 60 tackle a year average at $9.25 million means he’s making $150,000 per tackle on average.
Gerald McCoy made $465,000 per tackle last year.
Suh has more career sacks.
Suh has 481 career tackles. Mccoy 296. McCoy has 61% of Suh’s total. Think about that. We’re talking about a difference of about 200 tackles in 9 years.
QB hits? Suh 166, McCoy 140. All hits aren’t created equal. Who hits harder? You already know.
TFL? Suh 107. McCoy 79.
Batted Balls? Suh 32. McCoy 22.
Pick a stat, any stat. Suh is elite, McCoy is squarely behind Suh and Atkins as the 3rd best DT of his draft class.
Oh yeah, Suh has started 115 games in a row at the most physically demanding position in all of sports. Your best ability is your availability, right? McCoy has played 16 games in a season TWICE, most recently in 20 freaking 13.
This is like comparing Jordan to Pippen.
The much needed attitude adjustment that comes along as part of the package is just gravy. Tasty, tasty gravy.
May 23rd, 2019 at 9:58 pm
McBozos the comparison these folks are attempting to make is comical at best. One is a career disruptive football player the other is well how can I put it a nucance to an opposing team occasionally.
May 23rd, 2019 at 10:12 pm
Okay…Officially nothing left to talk about between Suh and McCoy.
May 23rd, 2019 at 10:26 pm
How many teams have made it to the play offs and Super Bowl without McCoy?
Yeah that’s every team. Bye bye bat boy
May 23rd, 2019 at 10:38 pm
The best player on your team cant be considered soft and think we would get wins when you have a guy like Winston 2 years into his career telling a seasoned veteran how he needs him to lead it’s a wrap.
Watch this defense be night and day not because suh is better but because mentally weakest on the football field happened to be the leader and one of the most talented on the team. Now with Geraldine gone we will see who the real leaders are.
May 24th, 2019 at 12:25 am
he was the same person on the field as he was off the field…that’s the crux of the problem with mccoy…he didn’t transform into sheet on game day…same nice nerdy good guy on the field that he was off the field…baker ws literally running sheet on this team 2 years go…that says enough to get rid of half the dam defense…no one manned up to baker for 16 weeks plus camp…someone should have put his head out while he was picking on the kickers in training camp…for real…
and when he was humping the tree on hard knocks you mush his head into the tree hard and watch him fall…sapp woulda punked baker in a heartbeat
May 24th, 2019 at 1:40 am
@Gerald McBezos
Damn… Freaking mic drop!
Case closed.
May 24th, 2019 at 4:22 am
@Gerald McBezos, great job……I say we are in Win Now mode and and give a 4th and 7th to Jets for Williams. Can you imagine that freaking line coming at you.
OLB Barrett, Spence (Rotation)
DL Suh, Allen
NT Vea
DL Williams, BecknerJr
OLB Nassib, Nelson (Rotation)
May 24th, 2019 at 6:13 am
I would’ve liked to see us get younger at the position but I can’t complain. Basically we got a better overall defender for $3-4 million less.
May 24th, 2019 at 10:38 am
Favorite comment. LOL
LakeLand Says:
May 23rd, 2019 at 7:12 pm
Yeah the culture change
Now they are a “Dirty” 5-11 team
May 24th, 2019 at 11:16 am
What number will Suh wear? Hopefully not 93
May 24th, 2019 at 1:12 pm
Hope he keeps that same energy with his quarterback!
May 24th, 2019 at 1:36 pm
Tbbf
Almost looks like a desperation signing, albeit cheaper.
There is no doubt GMC had to go, whether he was a nice guy or not. TMax was actually right about GMC’s effect on the locker room.
What the heck…it’s a one year deal.
May 24th, 2019 at 2:45 pm
I said no to Suh at first….but he’s on a team thats desperate and loaded with talent like he’s never been on. Im hoping this is the driving force to get him going for one more try at a SB win. 32 yrs old…weeks and days are much shorter now in chasing that ring. Time to get it….NOW!