Combatants Now Teammates
May 28th, 2019UPDATED 3:35 p.m. – One irony of the Bucs signing Ndamukong Suh last week is that now Suh is a teammate of the victim of one of his dirtiest stunts.
Back in November 2011 in the first quarter of a Lions home game hosting their NFC North division rival Green Bay Packers, Suh got run out of a game for trying to pound current Bucs offensive lineman Evan Smith.
On the play in question, Suh tried to jam Smith’s head into the turf of Ford Field several times and then as Suh was getting up, he stomped on Smith’s arm.
So Joe decided to ask Smith for his reaction to a guy trying to give him a concussion and jackhammer his head into the turf and perhaps snap his arm in two is now a teammate.
Smith didn’t seem to want to talk about Suh and waved off the incident as past history.
“It was what, nine years ago or something like that?” Smith said. “Eight or nine years ago? I’m not keeping count.
“I’ve played [Suh] multiple times since then. I’m here to win football games. We’re here to win, that’s it. We’re paid to do a job. If he’s here, that’s what it is.”
The incident put Suh on the map as being one of the NFL’s orneriest players and some believe dirty.
Back in 2017, Joe asked Smith about the stomping in what was a classic exchange.
Joe suggested to Smith that Suh made Smith a household name. And Smith replied asking Joe whether Joe had any clue what it was like to play for the Packers and win a Super Bowl the previous season? “Famous? I didn’t need him stomping on me to be famous,” Smith said. It was a very fair point and Joe acknowledged there was no insult intended with the question.
Even Bucco Bruce Arians, speaking after underwear football practice this afternoon, thought that type of mentality Suh brings to the table is worth a penalty or two.
May 28th, 2019 at 3:06 pm
What has been left out, is there something Evan Smith did to provoke him? Was Evan also playing dirty? But in football, it’s usually always the last player to retaliate that usually gets the flag.
May 28th, 2019 at 3:14 pm
@Jean Lafitte
Lol yeah, maybe he deserved to have his head smashed and arm stomped!!
May 28th, 2019 at 3:21 pm
Read somewhere Smith was untying Suh’s shoe laces…
May 28th, 2019 at 3:23 pm
Despite their chemistry, all I can say is I’M SO FRICKING GLAD ME-SEAN JACSON IS GONE!
May 28th, 2019 at 3:28 pm
“Best scheme I’ve ever played in”-Carlton Davis. MOs come in here wit they weak @$$ predictions but won’t bet no 💰!!!
May 28th, 2019 at 3:29 pm
Stompin’ their way to 6-10.
May 28th, 2019 at 3:29 pm
Unimpressed
yeah, maybe. Looks like Suh was on his knees and Smith tried to pancake him bending him backwards on his legs. If Suh had suffered a fractured knee, or leg I guess Smith would’ve been in his right. After watching that, I might’ve been mad at Smith too.
May 28th, 2019 at 3:32 pm
Call it wahtever you wish..But Suh does have a rep in the league for being one if not..the NFL’s most dirtiest player. Sometimes that does not equal to being Tough.
May 28th, 2019 at 3:36 pm
Very in depth and positive article regarding the Bucs over at PFF:
Their conclusions:
With the addition of Bruce Arians and Todd Bowles, the Bucs are shaping up to be one of the most fascinating teams to watch in 2019. In fact, they are a staff favorite here at PFF:
Under this regime, the Bucs could surprise all and become this year’s worst-to-first team. Regardless, Tampa is only trending up from here with Bruce Arians at the helm.
May 28th, 2019 at 4:01 pm
Just don’t understand why anyone would consider this to be even remotely relevant. Like Evan Smith said, they’re both professionals here to do a job. End of that story. Their NEW story is what’ll be important … how WELL do both of them perform THIS year, and can they help the Bucs win some games.
May 28th, 2019 at 4:02 pm
You know how else was dirty? The Ravens D since forever, the Raiders of the 70’s, the Steelers of the 70’s 80’s, Cowboys 80’s, Eagles in the 90’s, Seahawks 2000’s, Bears 80’s, Broncos 2000’s. Even the Buc’s early 2000’s were considered dirty with Sapp & Lynch hurting opposing players. Give me any of these D’s with our offense and we are playoff bound!
May 28th, 2019 at 4:03 pm
Who^^^^
May 28th, 2019 at 4:11 pm
Biggest thing about this video was the Aaron Rodgers throw. Per my understanding from most around here, elite QB’s don’t miss easy throws….
May 28th, 2019 at 4:42 pm
Every elite QB misses throws from time to time. The difference is that they turn it over far less and miss far less than middle of the road QBs.
May 28th, 2019 at 5:04 pm
we felt the same way about ryan jensen – we can withstand a few penalties if that’s the cost of a guy who brings the nasty demeanor every down – but what we learned is that there is a point at which that isn’t true and Jensen passed that point. Let’s hope all the tough guys find the right side of the line to play on more often this year….tough AND disciplined is how you win
May 28th, 2019 at 6:28 pm
Yes who would let something from 9 years ago get in the way of a paycheck. Leave to the Joe’s but hopefully we don’t have to read about it more than once…..I think we’ve just about gotten all the negative stuff out of the way but I’m sure you guys will keep digging for it. Welcome to Tampa Suh, gonna have to deal with the Geraldine loyalists until you do what he couldn’t do and help field a winning defense
May 28th, 2019 at 7:05 pm
@Race to 10
Or just leaves in FA next year after yet another dumpster fire of a season.
May 28th, 2019 at 9:19 pm
Unimpressed- you have every right to be cynical, but…. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz😔
May 28th, 2019 at 10:17 pm
@Nos: say it AGAIN!!
Ballers can tell by scheme and X&O’s
Let alone being able to play to their natural fit.
That read and react spit is for the birds
“You have to be a veteran DB to understand Mike Smith system”
Lol get the FOH
When they see all the quick passes due to Vea/Suh and a variety of BLITZES by our LB’s complimented by our DB’d breaking on and catching the picks. Only THEN will they believe.
Go Bucs!!
May 29th, 2019 at 12:26 am
How many different times did Suh get in trouble for unsportsmanlike conduct (I’m assuming that’s what the refs and nfl called it)?
Happens once, oh well. But there is a pattern.
I hope Suh has his best years with us…but let’s be real. How have Bucs free agents worked out so far?
May 29th, 2019 at 12:47 am
JEAN
Really???
Are you that clueless?
The game was televised. It was Suh being dirty.
That’s one of MANY old plays where SUH was beyond playing with an attitude, he was downright dirty.
The fact that you don’t know this, and are questioning what Evin Smith said or did prior, shows some serious ignorance. It does not matter what a player says to you, you don’t do the crap that Suh did.
May 29th, 2019 at 2:15 am
if suh ever decides to rush up on mccoy’s batcave and trash it like the hulk, he should bring deitrich-smith with him…it would create camaraderie and would be a great bonding experience for them…mccoy’s mancave would get thrashed by those tough guys and then they can go to tim hortons for donuts and coffee
May 29th, 2019 at 4:25 am
Smith is awful – why is he still on the team? Last year he was so bad that Benenoch had to start in front of him – and when Smith would come into the game there was a clear drop in play. Ryan Smith, Evan Smith – the Bucs need to not sign guys named smith.
May 29th, 2019 at 7:36 am
It’s quite apparent that Evan Smith is NOT a Suh fan. At all. Also apparent that Evans is becoming less of a Joe fan now too.
May 29th, 2019 at 1:22 pm
Suh just mad he got manhandled.