Bucs Finalizing Deal With Ndamukong Suh
May 21st, 2019Joe’s not sure the Bucs got better over the past 24 hours, effectively swapping Gerald McCoy for Ndamukong Suh.
But things certainly got a lot more exciting on a few fronts.
NFL Network is reporting this afternoon that the Bucs are close to finalizing a contract to bring Suh to Tampa on a one-year contract after McCoy was cut last night.
Suh is fresh off a strong postseason run with the Rams, following a three-year stretch with the Dolphins that was rather underrated. He’s missed just two games since he was drafted No. 2 overall by the Lions in 2010, one slot before McCoy.
The five-time Pro Bowler turned 32 in January and has experience in a variety of defenses.
Joe sees Suh as representing major culture change (he doesn’t carry the stench of endless losing) and he carries the sweet smell of a postseason performer.
No, he’s not the facestomper nasty player he used to be, but he’s definitely tough as nails. And Joe likes that Suh has experience playing in the extreme Florida heat, even making the Pro Bowl during his second season with Miami.
Did the Bucs get better swapping McCoy and Suh? Joe won’t go that far today. But it’s a good move for the sake of locker room change, as well as the Bucs likely saved a few million bucks and got a guy with a great durability history.
A couple of fun facts on Suh: The guy he most notoriously stomped on during his Lions days? That would be Bucs backup offensive lineman Evan Smith.
Also, Suh and McCoy were solid friends. Did McCoy tell Suh this was a great place to play?
May 21st, 2019 at 3:19 pm
freaking choirboy loving bucsfan getting salt poured their wounds today…. love it. finally a real man at DT…. choirboy lovers the glazers just sent a message that winning is more important than meaningless nice guy frauds like cancer93
all coming up tmaxcon today…. being always right is a burden that I enjoy.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:20 pm
Me thinks the Bucs just got a whole lot tougher on D.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:21 pm
At worst is should be about an even swap, but per all metrics Suh has always been a lot better.
But at worst IMo this is about an even swap and one that purges a face of losing that many fans have had issues with.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:21 pm
That is a great pic!
Welcome to the Bucs you freaking animal!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:22 pm
I’m guessing it’ll be close to $10M. Basically swapped McCoy for Suh and an ability to sign the rookies lol if that’s the case
May 21st, 2019 at 3:22 pm
5 years too late, jason lichts rep in the league must be that of a fool with free money
May 21st, 2019 at 3:22 pm
what a great day! bucs making a statement that want to compete like men now. it’s raining positives in bucland for the first time in nearly 2 decades
hey bonzi you are like a puppy that just got his noise rubbed in crapp… i love it!!!!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:22 pm
Also – we can still go after Leonard Williams when he hits FA next year. Our books should look a lot better that offseason in general / be more flexible to make a move like that
May 21st, 2019 at 3:23 pm
The sky is not falling.
As BA said, plenty of time to add key pieces to the roster.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:23 pm
Hell yeah! We got tougher in the middle and next to Vea, he’s gonna be a tank! I love McCoy but all to often he disappears. Devin White gotta love this as well, nobody touching him. Suh has had his criticisms but our defense needs some nasty to it! Let’s GO! Go BUCS!!!!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:23 pm
I don’t expect much out of Suh. He’s on the wrong side of thirty and in decline.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:23 pm
Statistically Suh is actually not that much better than GMC. Waitin to see
what we paid for him. He is tough though. He need to cut down on the
penalties somewhat.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:23 pm
Joe we definitely improved here, even if his pass rush production is almost identical to GMac’s again he still had twice as many tackles last and will be cheaper than 13 million. If we could somehow get him for less than 10 we got a major bargain.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:23 pm
I like it. He comes cheaper, nastier , and stays on the field. 3 things this team desperately needed without a dropoff in talent. We must got all of that in Suh.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:23 pm
Suh > Mcoy as player, but Mcoy > better as a person. Suh has a mean streak in him as well. A good move for what’s out there.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:24 pm
Vea and Suh up the gut…I’ll take it!!!
That sounds and looks a whole lot better than Vea and Allen or Gholston….
May 21st, 2019 at 3:24 pm
Just*
May 21st, 2019 at 3:24 pm
Someone’s going to run out of Kleenex in their bedroom today. 🙂
May 21st, 2019 at 3:27 pm
Baloney!, on not calling this a win. Bucs win this swap by a million miles! trade a whiny boy for a tough MAN! He’s also been durable as hell…all good
May 21st, 2019 at 3:27 pm
Chris Jones (KC) is much younger and a better pass rusher. He might be available since KC gave Frank Clark a boat load of money.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:28 pm
Suh and Ryan Jensen. Got to love it. Penalties on both sides of the ball. Can’t wait to see them both go at it.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:30 pm
Joe
i live close to a bar offering 5 PBR and jemison shot combos until 8pm… the ladies here are known for their questionable morality so no need for kleenex. i just need the right bait….I appreciate your concern though. finally HOPE and CHANGE I CAN BELIEVE IN!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:31 pm
We swapped a 15 million dollar salary for one substantially less, which allows us to keep building. At a minimum Suh is as good as Gerald.
Must have already had this lined up before the jettisoning .
These guys know what they are doing.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:32 pm
More salt in the wound for the McCoy lovers.
We need plays on the field. Not movie tickets for kids.
Yes, the Bucs got better today. Tom Moore too.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:32 pm
Feels like they are going to release JPP
May 21st, 2019 at 3:33 pm
For TMax, these last two days have been an absolute dream come true.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:34 pm
Guy has played in the 3-4. Guy has good playoff experience. Missed two games since 2010?!!! (that means 32 years old don’t mean jack sh!t).
Vea+Suh+White+David??? Not sure if that’s physically possible to run the ball up the middle.
Welcome.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:35 pm
Well, if anything, Nassib just got alot better. Who going to block him while everyone’s trying to stop Vea and Suh?
May 21st, 2019 at 3:35 pm
Not excited about this move at all. If the Bucs were a “win now” contender, then maybe. But an expensive 32 year old player on a one year deal just doesn’t fit. Suh is not known to be a team player and is considered to be the NFL’s version of a mercenary. He’ll play his one year and move on .
May 21st, 2019 at 3:36 pm
Wow. Crazy move. They had to do something.
Probably paying 10 although 8 sounds nicer
May 21st, 2019 at 3:36 pm
we got better and mentally tougher!!!!!
putting you on notice LVD!!!!!!!….you and dotson are the last 2 left from the losing culture……time to step up…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:36 pm
That’s a mistake. Of course, the slack-jawed mouth breathers are celebrating this move. There’s a reason why he’s been a free agent for *months* and that 31 other teams in the NFL passed on him.
Of the two, McCoy was the better player throughout their careers. I can’t wait to see all the defensive penalties he racks up that causes gained yards for the opposition.
December 30, 2019 can’t come fast enough.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:36 pm
I think this was the right move. Clearly, McCoy was unwilling to take a pay cut which we needed him to do in order to do the things we are trying to do this offseason. Suh was very productive NT for the Rams so I think he will be a better overall fit for our new 34 front. Keep in mind the DL in the 34 is not necessarily tasked with pass rush so much as taking up blocks to allow the blitzing LB’s to do their thing. I expect Suh to get a ton of tackles and few sacks like he did with the rams but definitely will help free up White/LVD when blitzing in the middle.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:37 pm
Hello, Mcflys…Mccoy was never going to play at $13 mill. EVeryone knew it including Gerald. So this acting like we saved money blah blah blah is funny.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:38 pm
TMax is right Bucs got nastier I love it I love what’s going on in Tampa, it’s been years since we’ve been nasty, big things coming Joe, love you Joe
May 21st, 2019 at 3:39 pm
Ok but now you gotta sign a replacement for jpp.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:39 pm
Now let’s make a trade for an above average DE.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:40 pm
Suh is a stud… teams won’t be able to run the ball his way…
May 21st, 2019 at 3:42 pm
The Bucs had no choice with their cap situation. Suh may not be better than GMC but he’s meaner. It will be fun to see him abuse the QB’s in our division.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:42 pm
Mr Rex. Why didn’t MCCoy restructure then??!!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:42 pm
McClown’s flying dirt nap – love it!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:42 pm
Depends on the money……anything less than $10mil is good.
I suspect there goes any chance of a comp pick for Hump or Kwon…..
May 21st, 2019 at 3:43 pm
How close is this to being a done deal? I hope he’s not done playing! No more retirement players, please.
In addition to the attitudinal change, can’t Sue play in a 3-4 whereas, Gerald didn’t want to?
Tmax, did you just complement the owners?
May 21st, 2019 at 3:43 pm
Suh and Vea up front
Teams will get a punch in the mouth ( figuratively)
Settle down Choir Boys
May 21st, 2019 at 3:43 pm
I thinks it’s an upgrade as far as the run D is concerned. GMC may have had more sacks the last few years, but Suh has 100+ more solo tackles than GMC in 20 more games. GMC averaged just over 1 solo per game last year.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:44 pm
This is amazing
May 21st, 2019 at 3:44 pm
realist
fix the trenches right!!!!!!!!!
licht scared to pull the trigger right????????
BA, TB, licht dumpster diving right????????
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:45 pm
I believe both players are solid. It the Bucs save $3-$5 million that’s a good trade. It seems like this deal was lined up before they let McCoy go.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:46 pm
This defense just got a facelift.
As I have said before, Suh is mean, surly, nasty and with a bad attitude on the field. Those elements have been missing from this D for quite some time, and certainly not at DT.
I’m in.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:46 pm
Joe if you want a culture change, and they sign Suh, it’s a dramatic culture change. If this happens, the addition of White and Suh brings a toughness and edge we have lacked on defense for a long time. I think there will be a veteran corner also added to the roster, for some veteran experience in the secondary. For all the talent McCoy had, I never saw him take over a game when it counted in the 4th quarter. We will see if Suh can, but at least he will cause havoc with his take no prisoner attitude. Joe it wasn’t working with McCoy, so a change to Suh won’t hurt.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:46 pm
813bucboi
LVD shows up every year and he’s still a premier LB. He’ll retire a Buc.
Dotson is old as dust and they were so f#cking stupid to resign him at $4 million.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:47 pm
Thought I heard on 620wdae it was for 10m.. could have misheard though..
May 21st, 2019 at 3:47 pm
I hope I’m wrong, but this feels like haynesworth all over again
May 21st, 2019 at 3:47 pm
31 other teams passed on $14 million.
Time is right now for him to take less.
Doesn’t mean he won’t produce.
Way more QB hurries than McCoy too.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:47 pm
Seems Todd Bowles has a following of players who want to play for him.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:48 pm
Immediate upgrade….regardless of what any of those Pewter Report squares say.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:48 pm
Not impressed unless its 9 mil or less.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:48 pm
Nasty Boyz…VV & Suh…Bucs have the best info on JPP…3 months was the quickest return which is plenty of time for bones to heal…healing properly in the question…fingers crossed for JPP end of September
May 21st, 2019 at 3:48 pm
Haven’t read any comments yet, at work but had to say….I LIKE IT.. BRING ON THE NASTY DEFENSE. NOTHING WRONG WITH ADDING ANOTHER DAWG TO THE TEAM !! GO BUCS
May 21st, 2019 at 3:50 pm
Vita Vea is gonna learn how to Pee without pulling his pants down around his ankles now!!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:50 pm
At least Suh won’t have to save himself for the post season like he did last year. Maybe he will show up in Oct, and November this year.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:50 pm
Suh…and we import another poor character guy……this is beyond ridiculous now.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:50 pm
Billy_43 Says:
If you believe, as I do, that turnovers>down and distance, I prefer a QB hurry to a sack.
Sacks are fine, but QB hurries produce turnovers.
May 21st, 2019 at 3:51 pm
d-rome
GMC better?….lol….
suh led the lousy lions and dolphins to the playoffs…..transformed both their defenses…..
suh has played for 3 teams and made the playoffs with each team…..
you cant sit here and say no one wanted him…..he wanted the freedom to pick his team…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
May 21st, 2019 at 3:52 pm
We still have room to make additional moves
Covert Base Salary To The Minimum
• Mike Evans || Save: $12,956,000
• Lavonte David || Save: $4,410,000
• Cameron Brate || Save: $4,956,000
$22,322,000
Release
• DE – Jason Pierre-Paul || Save: $7,400,000
• DE – William Gholston || Save: $3,750,000)
• C- Evan Smith || Save: $2,000,000)
13,150,000
**Total: $35,472,000**
May 21st, 2019 at 3:52 pm
I think we’re making another big move soon.
Why else would we be working out a TE that we currently don’t need?
May 21st, 2019 at 3:53 pm
Vita Vea + Suh is not something I would want to face at QB (on paper)
+ Bowels blitzing with LVD and Devin White.
Top 20 defense coming to Tampa????
May 21st, 2019 at 3:53 pm
Tho their stats are similar, the manner in which they have achieved the stats is DRASTICally different. McCoy has to disrupt both lines (including his own) with lateral movement and non engagement to get his stats. GMC will always make stats and flash if allowed to. Suh engages, sheds his blockers and still manages to make a few plays. He keeps the LB’s clean AND makes plays. GMC has never been this guy. Suh can have lesser stats and make a defense better. This is an upgrade. The only downside is for local media. Suh isn’t as good as an interview.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:00 pm
Man I just can’t believe it! What’s the opposites of the twilight zone? Cuz I’m there. BA just told a whole bunch of “real buc fans” to stfu and kicked the soft ass clown the hell out of town. I think I’m crying tears of joy. Man I can’t wait just wait and see what winning feels like!!!!!! Now I’m wondering if McIceCream even gets signed by anyone.
Joe Says:
May 21st, 2019 at 3:24 pm
what a great day! bucs making a statement that want to compete like men now. it’s raining positives in bucland for the first time in nearly 2 decades
Someone’s going to run out of Kleenex in their bedroom today
✋🏽✋🏽✋🏽
May 21st, 2019 at 4:02 pm
You’re out of your friggin mind if you’re suggesting Suh was waiting to play for the Bucs all along. 31 other teams didn’t want him. That should tell you something.
As usual, Backstabbin’ Jason Licht was competing with himself in acquiring Donkey Kong Suh.
Suh did not lead the Lions and Dolphins to the playoffs. Nice revisionist history. Again, if he was so great why would the Lions let go of their own #2 pick in the draft. Why would the Dolphins let him go? Why didn’t the Rams want him back?
Oh yeah, it’s because he secretly wanted to play for the Bucs all along. Ridiculous!
May 21st, 2019 at 4:02 pm
Mo Wilkerson next?
Potential Depth
DT Ndamukong Suh | Mo Wilkerson
NT Vita Vea | Beau Allen
DE Carl Nassib | Anthony Nelson
Rotation Rotation
May 21st, 2019 at 4:03 pm
No more sissy boys on defense.
I’m happy.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:03 pm
Morgus the Magnificent Says:
May 21st, 2019 at 3:50 pm
Suh…and we import another poor character guy……this is beyond ridiculous now.
all those fraudulent fake good character guys you support did was embarrass the sport of football and win basement titles. time to embrace men and winners. the choirboy police need to accept professional athletes for what they are sports entertainers not role models or substitute parents… good in the community dog and pony show pr stunts are just noise…. athletes are paid to win not perform community pr stunts for the camera to make you feel better.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:03 pm
Todd Bowles and Wade Phillips (Rams DC) both run a one gap 3-4 defense (or 4-3 under). Vea was drafted last year to replace 93(McCoy) and if Suh is signed then he will replace 90 (JPP). Both players can play the 1 (shaded to left side of center depending on the alignment of the TE) and 3 (shaded between the Guard and tackle). BA has stated in earlier press conferences that JPP would mostly play with his hand in the ground over a Guard.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:06 pm
LUVMYBUCS I believe Nassib and Nelson will be standup OLB in this defense. Most likely Gholston will be playing the 5 (RDE).
May 21st, 2019 at 4:10 pm
tmaxcon…I’m sure it’s so “beyond ridiculous” for Morgus that he’ll prolly stop being a Bucs fan or….most likely not.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:10 pm
@Joe said “Did the Bucs get better swapping McCoy and Suh? Joe won’t go that far today. But it’s a good move for the sake of locker room change, as well as the Bucs likely saved a few million bucks and got a guy with a great durability history.”
Durability is the real gain here. If you take a close look at “per game” averages you might be surprised at who has been more productive in certain categories when comparing GMC and Suh. You can take last year only or you can do an entire career comparison. (Averaging those same things on a “per season” basis will give yet another picture.)
In “availabilty” Suh is way ahead of McCoy.
Leadership and culture change are definite factors. However, intangibles are not purely subject to number crunching analysis. That’s why great coaches weigh analytics against what their own experience tells them.
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Go Bucs!!!
May 21st, 2019 at 4:11 pm
ready to see this go to finalized.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:13 pm
The last 24 hours should tell anyone with a brain, exactly what most Bucs fans have been thinking for years.
These moves are about CHANGING THE CULTURE, especially on Defense!
Suh is by no means a team leader, but he will not be forced into that role and fake it the way McCoy did.
Suh brings toughness, durability, success and playoff experience to the defensive line.
I can imagine he’s the kind of dude who won’t allow teammates to loaf, give-up or dance on the sidelines like they made the Super Bowl whilst getting their a**es beat like a drum.
McCoy not only NEVER did anything to stop the descent of his defense into the History books of Futility, he was dancing right there next to Kwon (thank you 49ers).
Like with anything in the NFL (and especially our loveable losing Bucs), this could end in disaster, however, I think it’s a great move that had to be made.
Stats –
Games Played:
Suh: 142 > McCoy: 123
Solo Tackles
Suh: 325 > McCoy: 218
Assists:
Suh: 156 > McCoy: 78
TFLs:
Suh: 107 > McCoy: 79
QB Hits:
Suh: 166 > McCoy: 140
Sacks:
Suh: 56 > McCoy: 54.5
Forced Fumbles:
McCoy: 6 > Suh: 4
Fumble Recoveries:
Suh: 4 = McCoy: 4
Safeties:
Suh: 1 > McCoy: 0
TDs:
Suh: 1 > McCoy: 0
Ints:
Suh: 1 > McCoy: 0
Passes Defensed:
Suh: 32 > McCoy: 22
Playoff Games:
Suh: 6 > McCoy: 0
Regular Season Wins:
Suh: 73 > McCoy: 52
May 21st, 2019 at 4:14 pm
He played in the Super Bowl a few months ago and now he’s signing with the Bucs? Wow, talk about going from the penthouse to the outhouse.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:16 pm
Line on Suh 2018 36 tackles. 23 assist 4.5 sacks
McCoy 2018. 28 tackles. 11 assists 6.0 sacks
59 times Suh either made or was in on a tackle. 39 times for McCoy. A drop off of only 1.5 sacks but much more involvement in the tackling game. ( 20 plays) He must stay at home more often in the run game? No more “ run at the DT!” I’m liking it…….
May 21st, 2019 at 4:16 pm
Next Moves for the Bucs:
Cut JPP – Has to be done.
Restructure (with no loss of guaranteed money)
– Brate
– Evans
– Jensen
– Marpet
Stock up on more talent including:
– D-Line/Edge
– Veteran CB
– Veteran Safety
– Offensive Guard
Go Bucs!
May 21st, 2019 at 4:21 pm
ElioT, your post pretty much confirmed what I have been saying for years. When you look at the stats objectively it shows GMC was a slightly more productive player than Suh in most categories. His numbers are similar despite playing in 19 less games.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:25 pm
Succaneers.
Loser.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:35 pm
So much for 3-4. The Bucs now have 2 stud tackles…and 3-4 only needs one, right? So bye-bye 3-4. Hello 4-3 and Dime.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:35 pm
Suh is a better fit for this defense, stopping the inside the tackle runs and allowing the lbs to play side line to side line. Good move because of the fit.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:36 pm
I have absolutely no hate for GMC as some here do. I think the Bucs gave him very little help in his career. Having said that I do feel good about this trade off of players. We needed to get meaner on the line and this is a big step in that direction. This also shows everyone that your time to move on can come sooner than later if you don’t step it up! GO BUCS!
May 21st, 2019 at 4:37 pm
@Trex… you mean like Batman errr McCoy?
May 21st, 2019 at 4:38 pm
Upgraded #93
May 21st, 2019 at 4:42 pm
Bonzai
Nothing has changed with Bowells scheme plans. Suh is simply Geralds replacement. Shaq Barrett is a strong sign that the Bucs are planning to go heavy 3-4.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:45 pm
ElioT thanks for the numbers. Shows a fairly done comparison of stats with Suh winning that area. The other thing it does not show is that Suh made the players around him better and that was a question mark with GMC. I think GMC will be picked up by somebody real quickly, maybe NE since the guy they got from Denv just retired!
May 21st, 2019 at 4:45 pm
When comparing stats shouldn’t you just concentrate on the last couple of years? A 22 year old has a different motor at 30 than at 22. Also a big difference in their experience over those 8 years. I think comparing their stats over the past year is a lot more accurate measure of where the man is today. Yesterday means squat. It’s gone. Tomorrow is what matters not the fact that you used to have pretty, thick hair and now you are bald! Suh had a much better year than McCoy last year. I think you can take it to the bank that Suh will be run on a lot less than McCoy. That’s th battle in the trenches. The whole world doesn’t revolve around sacks. How many times did Gerald give up the big run, even if only a 3 yarder for a first? I saw enough of him being out of position, especially after the first half. Almost all the gainers were at McCoy. Don’t think you will see that with Suh. Time will tell!
May 21st, 2019 at 4:46 pm
I get what you’re saying but the Rams have a base 3-4 defense and that was with Suh and Aaron Donald.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:46 pm
So many here are missing the Bigger Picture: This is a culture change.
The days of a marshmallow-soft, let-them-come-to-us defense is officially history in Tampa Bay.
Screw stats. I want D-Linemen who can ragdoll the OL…with anger.
And the best news? I will never have to see a football player in a kimono or fondling super hero dolls ever again. I’m hoping for some shots of Suh eating a raw side of beef, and spitting out the bones.
Thank you Bruce Arians and Todd Bowles. Thank you, thank you, thank you…
May 21st, 2019 at 4:46 pm
I like nasty!
May 21st, 2019 at 4:48 pm
If anything the absence of JPP likely means the Bucs are planning more 3-4 multiple schemes.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:49 pm
Comparing career stats is childs play, an exercise for casual fans.
All that matters is TODAY. Next game.
Even Arians said that McCoy is not the same as he used to be. I’m betting Suh has not degraded nearly as much.
Who is the bigger bad a$$ the last two years?
That said, I preferred Suh over McCoy when the Bucs made their pick in the draft.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:51 pm
Suh gets a lot of penalties too.
May 21st, 2019 at 4:56 pm
T Max was right !!!!
Again !!!
May 21st, 2019 at 4:56 pm
Nice post ElioT, you’ve shown Suh has been better than McCoy all of these years to those of us who say between the lines is all that matters. But you left out a couple of stats that I would be curious to see comparisons of, such as # of penalties (by type), # of penalty yards, # of times the penalty gave the opposing team a first down, etc.
Suh’s has been a thug and probably always will be. Bucs need an attitude change though, so if he can keep a lease on his attitude, than it’s a good signing!
May 21st, 2019 at 4:58 pm
I just watched some film of Suh vs. the Bucs from 2017, when Suh was with the ‘Fins, totally rag-dolling Marpet. Man vs. Boy.
May 21st, 2019 at 5:09 pm
Thanks Elliot!
Stats –
Games Played:
Suh: 142 > McCoy: 123
Solo Tackles
Suh: 325 > McCoy: 218
Assists:
Suh: 156 > McCoy: 78
TFLs:
Suh: 107 > McCoy: 79
QB Hits:
Suh: 166 > McCoy: 140
Sacks:
Suh: 56 > McCoy: 54.5
Forced Fumbles:
McCoy: 6 > Suh: 4
Fumble Recoveries:
Suh: 4 = McCoy: 4
Safeties:
Suh: 1 > McCoy: 0
TDs:
Suh: 1 > McCoy: 0
Ints:
Suh: 1 > McCoy: 0
Passes Defensed:
Suh: 32 > McCoy: 22
Playoff Games:
Suh: 6 > McCoy: 0
Regular Season Wins:
Suh: 73 > McCoy: 52
May 21st, 2019 at 5:10 pm
Wanted Suh in that initial draft, was so pissed we missed on him- wanted badly to trade up- should be entertaining for a year
May 21st, 2019 at 5:15 pm
D-ROME
so 31 teams emailed you and said they dont want suh……multiple teams probably wanted suh and he wanted to pick the best landing spot….
who knows, bengals, cardinals and green bay probably wanted him but he might have not wanted to play for a first time HC…..maybe state income tax was a factor…..maybe scheme was a factor…..
you can sit here and say you know for a fact that 31 other teams didnt want him…..
DET came down to money, thats why they didnt resign suh…it was resign suh or resign stafford……
and when was the last time the lions and dolphins made the playoffs…..the last time suh was wearing their uniform…..
rams choose not to resign him because of money as well…..
it was a great move….culture wise and production wise…..
you claiming no one wanted suh is ludicrous…..you really think he was going to sit out this year….lol….
GO BUCS!!!!!
May 21st, 2019 at 5:18 pm
And he should be allowed to wear 93
May 21st, 2019 at 5:31 pm
Lol yea the bucs got better despite what you think because suh will actually play the run
May 21st, 2019 at 5:37 pm
This is a great day… no McCoy and we add suh
May 21st, 2019 at 5:38 pm
9 years late
May 21st, 2019 at 5:47 pm
I see a lot of fans using my favorite two words culture change! I’ve been voicing this need for years now and it’s finally starting to come around. I’m almost as ecstatic as TMax not quite but close. For some younger fans that might not know this the Bucs up until maybe the last 10 years have ALAWYS had tough talented players on defense going all the way back to the early days. We were always lacking on the offensive side of the ball until recently. The organization got away from these tough physical players for whatever reason. They concentrated on weapons for Winston which is fine but they went too far.
May 21st, 2019 at 5:56 pm
Great pic BTW Joe that perfectly paints a picture of Josh Mccowns tenure with the Bucs.
May 21st, 2019 at 5:59 pm
The McCrybay fluffers are really distraught now. Someone better take SCBucfan’s shoelaces!
May 21st, 2019 at 6:42 pm
Love it! Tammpppaaaa bbbbaayyyy!!!
May 21st, 2019 at 7:09 pm
This is Suh’s 3rd NFl team in the last 3 seasons. There is a reason for that..don’t you think? And why weren’t other teams rushing to sign him? blind people caught up in the excitement don’t see..what I see. Thats because we think..Suh is the answer. He is not people.
May 21st, 2019 at 7:52 pm
He’s a scumbag who has less sacks than McCoy! But scumbags love scumbags….
May 22nd, 2019 at 2:31 am
That’s kinda messed up if they let him get #93. Suh will bring a different attitude to our team but I can’t say we got better I think it’s an even swap.
May 22nd, 2019 at 5:06 am
This is the first off-season acquisition (other than the coaching staff) that I am excited for. The only dancing this cat does is on opposing player’s heads. Happy day today. 😀
May 22nd, 2019 at 11:58 am
Sorry, I’m not down on Suh but the fact is that he has never lived up to his hype. He’s never been a true game wrecker and even next to Aaron Donald last year he was merely good enough. We did not upgrade over McCoy in any real way here. No, he won’t help guys up, show up in a kimino, play with super hero action figures, but he also won’t be a significant improvement in any way. Hopefully, he has enough left in the tank that he will at least be good.
May 22nd, 2019 at 9:09 pm
To put the icing on the cake…he should ware #93 !! The number and team he should have had 10 years ago