Arians: No Comment On GMC
May 11th, 2019
Refuses comment.
Last night at the Dick Vitale gala in Sarasota to raise funds for the “V Foundation,” Mike Cairns of Spectrum Sports cornered Bucs stud defensive tackle Gerald McCoy and asked GMC if he would return to the Bucs this fall.
GMC gave a wishy-washy answer.
So today after the second rookie minicamp practice, Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians was asked by Chris Torello of Spectrum Sports for his reaction to GMC’s remarks.
Arians had no reaction.
“I don’t talk about guys not here,” Arians politely said. “Ask me about guys that are here and I will talk all day.”
That’s not very reassuring, is it?
Sure smells like GMC is gone.
May 11th, 2019 at 3:19 pm
Maybe Arians is just letting the suits n GMCs agent handle things. I’m sure he has a plan with n without him. Honestly I hope it’s with. We need as many dlinemen as we can get
May 11th, 2019 at 3:19 pm
Thanks for the memories Geraldini. Time for the youth movement.
May 11th, 2019 at 3:23 pm
The sensitive McCoy has hurt feelings… there’s no way he’ll get 13 million next year, here, there anywhere…. now he is torn between taking a cut and keeping his private life comfortable or moving to uncharted waters chasing a ring… blah blah blah…. time to sheet or get off the pot… ball is and has been in your court.
May 11th, 2019 at 3:37 pm
get this clown out of town she has been a far bigger distraction than djax…. glazers flushed 100 million good cash for basement titles, excuses and crying on the sidelines. get this bum gone BA
May 11th, 2019 at 3:39 pm
Arians is absolutely right. His job is to coach the players he has. If you are not there, you are gone. If for some reason things change in future and you return, that is an addition to this team as would picking up any player not currently on the roster. As for compensation or replacement, that is Licht’s issue. Unless that compensation is a player added to the current roster, it is of no consequence to 2019 team. Gerald McCoy is gone. JPP is gone. Beckwith is gone. Accept it as fact. Life in the NFL goes on. It represents and an opportunity for others to step up and make a name for themselves.
May 11th, 2019 at 3:44 pm
I don’t think there are many fans left who think he’s going to be on this team. Both Arians & McCoy himself have given so many hints without coming right out and saying it. Like I said from day one it’s a respect from team to player and player to a team who has made him rich beyond his wildest dreams. There will be one final goodbye in a written quote from the Glaziers say thank you for you time and taking our $100 Million.
May 11th, 2019 at 4:10 pm
Enjoy your hiring and pre season hype coach Arians. I am pulling for you. However you should know this…If you don’t win..don’t turn this franchise around? These fans..me included..are gonna turn on you quicker than an..Arizona Diamonback! Oouch!
May 11th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
Move On
Next
May 11th, 2019 at 5:16 pm
@Joe
It smells like a game of brinkmanship between the Bucs and GMC to me!
May 11th, 2019 at 5:18 pm
Okay Joe, cut the crap :-). I am usually giving you the benefit of the doubt but this one is ridiculous–kudos on trying to elicit emotion. This only smells like Joe and the media in general doesn’t know what’s happening, nor should they. It’s okay. It doesn’t smell like “GMC is gone” at all. If I didn’t have to maintain a security clearance, I’d pay for what you might be smoking. However, I will say it smells like the Bucs are still figuring out what they will do, to include a deal or no deal. Losing JPP and even Beckwith can change things up. BA is the HC and clearly has a say, especially with his sorry buddy GM, but nonetheless, it is for JL to talk about. The HC will not get out in front of the GM here. You know that, right. C’mon…you have been at this long enough to know better. At his point, I expect it to be 50/50 as to whether GMC gets a deal or not.
May 11th, 2019 at 5:29 pm
Sure smells like BA, sitting from his golf cart, coaching that struggling, multimillion dollar heart (yeah, I got one too…just not worth as much), is along for the ride. Yeah guys, give me crap about this in 8 months. Mark it. I dare you.
What is right about this team right now? Did they get better in FA? Are they better after the draft? You think so? Do we know that? Drafting 2,120 DBs in the last two years (yes, sarcasm), I’m not sure JL knows either. Thank God we got the basket case kicker to save the say. Mr. Cry.
Let me go back here. What is right? Jameis just showed his dubmazzedness by having someone slam a driver two inches above his right brain. We lost our best DE for the season. We likely lost a key LB. The CBs are mostly rookies or first year guys with VHIII as our veteran hope. GMC is having his usual emotional diversion and likely won’t be on the team until he destroys morale. No new RBs, and we got worse in WRs. Yeah, call this long-time season ticket holder a negative guy. No, we aren’t cutting it. Not at all. I’m buying tickets, but not buying into this year. Why should I?
May 11th, 2019 at 5:30 pm
Everyone is thinking this is smoke and mirrors or some type of game between the Bucs and McCoy’s agents…..it’s not! The Bucs overpaid when resigning McCoy to the tune of $95 Million! Arians said himself that McCoy has not been the same player the last four years. That is the entire new contract he signed up to date! The end of last year the Bucs gave McCoys agent a number and McCoy and the agents said no freaking way. Bucs said goodbye!
May 11th, 2019 at 5:42 pm
Nobody knows what will happen….not GMC….Not his agent….not Arians….not Licht….not Joe….and certainly not me…..T””x doesn’t know….and that must bug him a great deal.
We will know when we know and not a day sooner…..
They are likely trying to trade or restructure him…..and may end up paying him (doubtful) or cutting him.
May 11th, 2019 at 5:47 pm
BA is working a ROOKIE minicamp. Not commenting on GMC or any other veteran makes perfect sense. Yet some, including Joe, are trying to turn it into another soap operatic episode of “Days of Our Lives.”
Senile—lose the mellowdrama with the “brinksmanship” comment. This isn’t John Foster Dulles and Nikita Khrushchev at the brink of a nuclear holocaust.
It’s football!
May 11th, 2019 at 5:54 pm
I know what will happen…McCoy won’t get 13 million dollars from the Buc to play football….balls in McCoy’s court…not a good year to be playing hardball with a team out of money…The Standoff on Dale Mabry….
May 11th, 2019 at 5:57 pm
JA….would you be Jim Anderson from the old StPete Times ACQB Forum ?
“John Foster Dulles and Nikita Khrushchev” age appropriate clue
May 11th, 2019 at 6:01 pm
I wonder if GMC it working out this weekend, while everyone is off drinking and spending time with friends and family?
May 11th, 2019 at 6:03 pm
Simplify it all the way down. GMC and his agent know he can and will be paid at least $7 mill annually over 3 years by ANYONE, with probably $13-15 total guaranteed of that combined $21 million over the three years.
So…even theorethically if Bucs and GMC came to a revised contract at $7 mill per, we wouldn’t want a disgruntled player after being badmouthed by the new coach in the media (“not same player he was 4 years ago”)..who will loaf and be divisive all year long.
So with GMC knowing he can paid $7 mill by anyone, plus us not wanting all that loafing drama…GMC’s agent will structure their collective behavior to force his release.
He’s gone. Period. Just wish it was now. Gump Licht wants himself to look as “good” as possible, cuz everyone on planet earth knows he should have traded him at last year’s deadline, to salvage value, ship sailed.
May 11th, 2019 at 6:10 pm
Ogbah and Duke Johnson and we have a deal
May 11th, 2019 at 6:29 pm
As soon as Bruce took the job McCoy was never coming back. I’m sure Gerald and the FO have already known this for a long time too.
It’s never been about McCoy the player it’s about McCoy the leader. He’s been a crappy leader and it’s long overdue to replace him(not as a DT as the face of this defense).
Tampa 2 is dead and it’s time for a new era. Devin White is our new Captain and he will be much more effective if he has the whole defense behind him. He doesn’t need Gerald trying to cling to a leadership role. He doesn’t need that drama.
It will be harder to get better as a team with McCoy. He had his time it was an utter and complete failure & now it’s time to move on. None of this is hard to understand.
May 11th, 2019 at 6:43 pm
I cannot wait to not have to read thread after thread about this guy.
May 11th, 2019 at 6:51 pm
What a negative distraction this is for an already long-suffering fan base. I get a migraine just having to think about. Will he be here, will he not? What are Arians and Licht “not” saying? Makes you just want to throw up. We need closure on this issue already. I want something positive to think about concerning the Bucs. Let’s hear even more about Devin White. Let’s find out more about our draft choices. What about more regarding the signed undrafted ones. What about anything else that may give us hope. Now that I think about it, WHAT ABOUT SOME NEW UNIFORMS! (Thank you, I just needed to get that off my chest).
May 11th, 2019 at 7:05 pm
Altered—
Nope, not Anderson. Sorry. Just an avid reader of history and novelist.
Dulles and Khrushchev were going at it before my brain functions kicked in, but interesting figures in the 50’s and early 60’s when the U.S. and the Soviet Union seemed hell-bent on trying to blow each up.
Dulles was Eisenhower’s “Brinksmanship” Sec. of State when Khrushchev came to power.
Khrushchev and JFK went at it again in October of 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. That one was close! Without a great idea from Robert Kennedy and a little luck, there would be no you or me to bitch at Joe if things had gone a little differently.
That help?
May 11th, 2019 at 7:27 pm
Precisely what Jimmy said at 6:29..
May 11th, 2019 at 7:29 pm
As soon as Bruce took the job his days here were over. You can’t get away with candy @$$ing with Bruce Arians. No way no how.
May 11th, 2019 at 7:31 pm
Yes please get rid of him because things will change. Oh wait. That did not happen when it was Glennon that was the problem or anybody else that was all these years. All the players come and gone. Coaches come and gone. The list will keep going on.
May 11th, 2019 at 8:03 pm
Thanks JA…I lived through that era….born in 48…dad career CIA officer 1950-76
May 11th, 2019 at 8:22 pm
Not sure why all this we need GMC talk because JPP is out. We’ve finished last with him almost every year and pick in the top 5-10. How much worse can the Bucs be with our GMC teaching all the rookies to “enjoy themselves” and not worry about making an impact and winning games.
May 11th, 2019 at 8:23 pm
DBS you sound like you about ready to give up. Don’t worry bro we save a seat for you on the bandwagon.
May 11th, 2019 at 8:31 pm
We can actually put a little bit of blame on Grimes. When you pay a disgruntled player like we did with Grimes you get that poor attitude and lack of effort. He really stuck it to the organization and us fans in the last game of the season. Played his a$$ off the entire game only to show he could still do it but chose not to. This is also what McCoy has been giving us since his huge contract was signed.
May 11th, 2019 at 8:36 pm
Get young, stay hungry, never accept this old losing culture as your own. These new guys will somehow get it done.
May 11th, 2019 at 9:06 pm
JimmyJack
That was for someone that if you just type their name it is instant moderation. Just remember list. He has one and adds to it. And I don’t let myself get hyped anymore. Been here from the beginning. So there is no bandwagon. Just a wagon trying to find the band it lost..
May 11th, 2019 at 9:12 pm
I’m very fine with getting younger & hungrier…….let’s call it Youngry……
May 11th, 2019 at 9:25 pm
Damn Altered, someone actually remembers the old ACQB. lol There was a troll called JagRoar that swore Trent Dilfer could run faster if he wore black shoes. lol
May 11th, 2019 at 9:36 pm
Dewey..were you a poster on ACQB ?….I was…#32 registered poster and my screen name was…don’t think it will post here but the first 2 initials were R M 🙂
I remember JagRoar….Rock….snook…BTon…and a bunch of Packer fans…those were good times
May 11th, 2019 at 9:41 pm
If JPP. isnt playing they need mccoy here. I wanna see all.of.our draft picks signed first though
May 11th, 2019 at 9:50 pm
OK, JA, gotcha!
I was trying to get Joe’s attention. Hyperbole I guess.
Some of the comments that have been posted say it all. Better than I can.
May 11th, 2019 at 10:18 pm
Arians knows GMC is soft. Finally someone sees it.
See ya #93.
May 11th, 2019 at 11:52 pm
Only bad things can come from media induced comments with an obvious tug of war going on. So he’s keeping tight lipped about it. He doesn’t owe anyone a sound bite. And since he didn’t give one, now we want to read into that? The Bucs are first and foremost trying to get GMC to renegotiate his contract and that’s not BA’s job.
May 12th, 2019 at 12:22 am
Snook: Finally people are starting too see it,this guy is a Fraud!!
May 12th, 2019 at 3:26 am
Chopshopp,
What leverage does the bucs have over Mccoy to renegotiate? Then there’s McCoy’s side to consider, what leverage does he hold?
It appears Mccoy believes in the idea he holds more than the team. And the comments from the team seem to support it.
Renegotiating McCoy’s contract isn’t to retain him, it’s to trade him. Mccoy refuses in hopes they cut him…freeing him to negotiate with multiple teams.
May 12th, 2019 at 4:48 am
D1… Aaah yes, LEVERAGE. What a beautiful word in negotiations. I was with you right up until the part where the Bucs were only trying to renegotiate in order to trade him.
Bucs do have some leverage, but not very much. For all the grief GMC has gotten here, Tampa has become his long-established home. Yes the Bucs have a losing history this decade, but blaming that on 1 player out of 53 is like solely blaming Jameis for the Bucs losing record these past 4 years. The beauty of football to me is that it’s the ultimate TEAM sport. One player rarely if ever wins or loses a game, much less a season.
The bigger question IMO is ‘Can GMC fit into the defensive scheme that Todd Bowles will be running?’ If Bowles has already decided that he doesn’t, then perhaps your scenario makes sense. But if he does fit in, then the question becomes ‘What’s the $$$ value of his potential contribution?’ And obviously that’s complicated by the fact that GMC and the Bucs have an existing contract in-place that runs for another 3 years.
I just wish the media would let this thing play out and stop stirring the pot. Unrealistic I know, because historically that’s what the sports media always does it seems.
May 12th, 2019 at 5:52 am
Defense,
I took the position of ultimately wanting to trade him because the team has not used the press to voice their commitment to him while also casting him as unreasonable due to the salary cap. This , imo, would send a clear message that the team wants him but he has to be reasonable and redo his contract. That’s a good strategy to employ if the team wants the player at a lesser deal and if they can’t resign him then the team appears to have done all it could to retain him.
But, that’s not the way they have been playing this at all. They’ve used the press to devalue his services and send the message that they’re not committed to him. Let’s face it, the league is well aware of the bucs current cap situation. Do you believe the bucs are trying to get something for him via a trade or just making a mess of the situation? Meaning by.. continuing to make statements that devalue the player and on a personal side p.o. the player.
Defense, I’m don’t know what they’re doing, but I’m just trying to view it as a business transaction. In that light, it makes some sense of the way the bucs are choosing to play this out. If they’re wish is to retain gmc, then it’s one of the worst ham handed attempts I’ve seen.
May 12th, 2019 at 6:07 pm
I just read Tom Brady’s quote about the salary cap. I know Gerald isn’t married to some Tyra Banks/brand like Tom so he feels he has to maximize, but when Brady mentioned any dollar that goes to him is a dollar taken away from a dude who can improve your team, it just shows the differencevbetween 6 Super Bowls and 0 playoff appearances. From what I understand Gerald won’t back off from 13 million even though his production doesn’t warrant that anymore. Team first, everybody? I’m questionin’.
May 12th, 2019 at 6:44 pm
Where is the video or quote from the team or McCoy talking about his money? Not there, but some holier than thou Posers on this site presume he’s pouting, playing hardball, is a cancer, etc. some holier than thou (liar) in this site said he would willingly take a pay cut at his job if the company told him that money would be used to pay someone else who would make his company better! We’ll see what happens but if he stays, he stays in a team with some of most ridiculous “fans” on the planet. Queue the “we have a right…” crowd. Go Nucs!