Tripping Over Own Words
April 11th, 2019
Bucs coach Bruce Arians.
Joe has decided to document highlights of Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians captured when he coached Arizona during the inaugural season of “All or Nothing,” a “Hard Knocks”-like miniseries by NFL Films that follows a pro or college team throughout a season and is exclusive to Amazon. Some highlights Joe hopes will help fans learn what to expect from the 12th coach in franchise history. This series of posts will appear periodically until the days leading up to the draft later this month.
One thing Joe has figured out about Bucco Bruce Arians is he is very much an open book.
Ask him a question and you will get an answer. Joe finds this refreshing.
Oh, Dirk Koetter mostly was, too. However, Koetter in a feisty mood was known to snap at a reporter, “Above my paygrade” if he didn’t want to respond. This was not the norm, however. Joe’s was on the receiving end of that from a lot of coaches through the years. Hey, no harm; no foul.
(This is not saying Joe didn’t enjoy working with Koetter — Joe very much did. Koetter was very helpful to Joe.)
Arians, however, seems to be more forthcoming than Koetter. And it appears that sometimes Arians’ words cause him to step in it.
This was the case in the second episode of “All or Nothing,” in which NFL Films followed around Arians and the 2015 Cardinals in 2015 for a full season.
The episode opens with Cardinals upper-management in their early-week meeting regularly attended by Arians, Cardinals general manager Steve Keim and Cardinals president Michael Bidwill.
The previous game is reviewed and battle plans are discussed for the upcoming game. Joe finds this slightly curious that the guy running the team sits in on a weekly football meeting. (The team is owned by Bidwill’s father, Bill, but he is retired and basically a figurehead.) The younger Bidwill (Joe met him on Joe’s first beat assignment while still in college) isn’t obtrusive in the meetings but mostly sort of offers a helping hand if Keim or Arians needs something.
The scene opens with Arians speaking as the Cardinals prepare to host the Rams. Arians is certain the Rams have an added incentive to beat up on the Cardinals.
“I’m sure the comments from last year’s Thursday night game will be out there,” Arians said of the previous year’s game which the Cardinals won 12-6. “You know, about perennial 8-8s?”
Then you hear a voice from someone not shown on camera (it sounds like Bidwill) asking Arians, “Who said that?” Arians cracks a sheepish smile and the episode flashes back to a visibly perturbed Arians offering postgame comments from the previous season’s December matchup.
“There’s an 11-3 team and a team that’s always 8-8,” Arians grumbled. “You figure that out.”
Of course, Arians was referring to the Rams.
The episode then jumps to Arians addressing his team as they begin preparations for the Rams. Arians confesses his words may have put his team in a jam.
“You are going to hear about some statements made in last year’s game in St. Louis that I made,” Arians said. “I talked a lot of sh!t. … I expect you guys to have my back.”
Arians wasn’t wrong, as it turned out. The Rams played inspired, physical football and beat the Cardinals in Arizona 24-22. And the Rams finished that season 7-9.
April 11th, 2019 at 10:44 am
i like that attitude…..screw speaking softly……talk sh!t and swing a big stick!!!
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
April 11th, 2019 at 10:49 am
Comic books are books too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 2019 season will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Go Realist for starting his 3 week vacation today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 11th, 2019 at 10:50 am
Tried the big stick crap. They took it away and kicked our ass. How about STFU and play ball and just win. Enough with the talk.
April 11th, 2019 at 11:28 am
“All or Nothing” is a great series…..and it absolutely give you a good idea of how Arians interacts with players & other coaches.
There is another series I suggest if you are interested in Cappa & Humbolt. It is called “Murder Mountain” (Netflix)…..it is 6 episodes and centers on Hubolt County CA…..the marijuana capital of the world. Let’s hope Alex is a non-smoker.
April 11th, 2019 at 11:46 am
“Sheep”: a group of people that do not exist other than in the delusional fantasy of a poster that goes by some version of the name “Realist”. This poster wages ware in the name of battling the perception of the tampa Buccanneers by this non-existent group of supposed sheep that all have the same view point
“Real Fan”: apparently a person that uses a lot of exclamation points and talks down to the entirity of the fan base that is not this person.
Essentially, the poster known as some form of “Realist” is the only actual real Buc fan by his own assertion. Every other supposed “fan” is actually a mindless sheep all sharing the same incorrect perception and opinion of the team. They are not even real fans. There is only one real fan.
This is fun.
lol.
I’d say Go Bucs but I can’t because I’m not a real fan apparently. Not sure why RJS even has seating beyond wherever Realist sits.
April 11th, 2019 at 11:54 am
Realist
If you’re taking a 3 week vacation, does that mean you’ll be commenting on here more often? Ugh
Most people do things with family or friends, out in the real world. But you’re gonna be on the internet even more? Lol
Also, why do the sheep know more than you with all of this extra free time u spend on this site?
April 11th, 2019 at 12:04 pm
@LC
Isn’t it interesting that the “Realist” constantly posts what the new season will reveal the the real fans already know…..without revealing what that is…..that way anything can happen and the “Realist” can claim he knew all along.
April 11th, 2019 at 12:06 pm
I am curious to see what would have happened if Arians was our coach when Sean Payton did that hard back pat to Koetter after a game and Koetter’s girly-man response, what would Arians have done??????
Anyone remember that incident?
April 11th, 2019 at 12:07 pm
Gonna guess Sean Payton would never try that stunt with Arians, who would likely go after Payton (and have a stroke).
April 11th, 2019 at 12:21 pm
Tbbf
He’s insinuating that jameis sucks.
April 11th, 2019 at 12:44 pm
@Tampabaybucfan
Yes for sure. It’s super obvious what his schtick is by now lol.
He’s said enough things ambiguously enough to find something he can later bump as some proof of something that he said, and no one will care about it because we all see the game he’s been playing.
I guess enough losing can drive us all kind of crazy. GO SHEEP! BAH!
April 11th, 2019 at 12:53 pm
@El Buco Realisto
What is this fascination with sheep? Are you a farmer?
The answers that I am interested in are –
Was it coaching or talent to blame for last season?
Is Ronald Jones a bust, or can he have a break out season?
Will the 3-4 defense help us improve or will it back fire?
April 11th, 2019 at 1:10 pm
. “I talked a lot of sh!t. …”
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My kind of guy
April 11th, 2019 at 1:48 pm
What 813 said I love that attitude too.
April 11th, 2019 at 1:58 pm
@Pete,recently Joe posted one of these in reference to a play call BA gave Carson Palmer that ended with Palmer throwing an int. The thread said BA was piping hot because he instructed Carson if the initial read wasn’t there chuck it of bounds. BA experience told him Carson wouldn’t see the lurking defender on the check down to the left. He didn’t resulting in the pick. I responded to one your post about Jameis completion percentage under pressure in contrast to when he has time. My belief the secrect behind the whisperer is what was detailed in the other thread from a few days ago. Carson said “Jameis about to be successful because BA teaches you exactly where to go with the football “. Thusly the player is but an extension of the HC’s mind on the sideline.
April 11th, 2019 at 2:00 pm
A lot better f y’all are about to eat a lot of your words in reference to Jameis Winston. Watch.
April 11th, 2019 at 2:01 pm
I meant a lot are about to eat. This Swype function man.
April 11th, 2019 at 4:16 pm
In the “All or nothing” series there were a couple times where the Coach needed the players to “Have his back” and they let him down both times.
There were also some “Trap games” that they should have easily won but did not because of a lack of focus.
They also simply did not show up for the NFC Championship game vs the Stinking Panthers. Again, lack of focus in certain key games.
Maybe, that is why BA was not invited back to coach the Cardinals this year.
April 11th, 2019 at 4:40 pm
It’s like some of you love saying “if only he could cut down on the turnovers” See my 1:58pm post should help some here understand why when BA gets his hands on QB they’re “turnover ratio” immediately declines. I’m sure privately he’s already told Jameis “just do what I tell you with the football,Ima make you look reeeaall good. Ima make you a 100 million dollar man”. So feel free keep throwing your shade and taking ya little shots. Im memorizing your tags,ima throw some stuff back once the season starts.
April 11th, 2019 at 4:49 pm
Media types often think the coach that talks a lot is refreshing (or otherwise like it), but frankly, I think that shows a lack of confidence (on the coach’s part). They guy that talks the most usually is the guy that fears the most. Business, politics, life. The coaches (and players) owe the media nothing but the bare minimum required by the NFL, and I like the guy who is focused on his job and good at it, others be damned. Now, that’s not saying some recent Bucs coaches are “good” for not being an open book–they weren’t. Maybe it’s the military in me…I just never liked guys that go around blabbing about the obvious, or things they shouldn’t say–and they look worse when they are wrong. So I’m good with a coach like Belichic that performs but says little. I don’t give a rat’s petute if the media guys have to case a guy’s house and kidnap the dog for ransom to get a single morsel of info. That is the media’s job. The performance on the field is enough for me. Besides, the media can earn quite the living speculating until kingdom come. Nothing about Joe here…who tries to get good info anyway (with minimal kidnapping)…but I’m fine with getting nothing if it might mean the slightest advantage. God knows the Bucs need all they can get. I’m just no sold on Arians yet anyway. He doesn’t need this job, and while pride takes a guy a long way, the first time he has a health issue, he will be gone (and I don’t blame him). It’s all talk now. I am not going to get my hopes up again until Game 9 and I see at LEAST 4-4. Fool me 32 times…shame on me…
April 11th, 2019 at 4:56 pm
Cornelius, this may explain why we never fill the stadium.
We only have one real fan. This explains a lot. I anxiously await what is to be revealed by this in the know fan. When will you enlighten us el real one?
April 11th, 2019 at 5:06 pm
jerseybuc Says:
Cornelius, this may explain why we never fill the stadium.
We only have one real fan. This explains a lot. I anxiously await what is to be revealed by this in the know fan. When will you enlighten us el real one?
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Yes please do. Maybe I can sit in your section and learn how a “real” fan acts at a game.
April 11th, 2019 at 5:33 pm
I’m starting to wonder about this “sheep” thing……perhaps the Realist is into barnyard animals…..
April 11th, 2019 at 6:12 pm
Speaking of coaches and talking…I am equally interested in Byron Leftwich OC and the combination he has with Clyde Christensen at QB coach. Clyde can run circles about Byron in so many ways, but he did not exactly do well with Tannehill in Miami–maybe Tannehill isn’t that good. Let’s hope. Byron is new, maybe can be more on the level with Winston, but will the combination of both on Jameis be enough? Is Jameis bamboozling a young and fairly inexperienced OC while the more experienced QB coach (than both) knowing what to be wary of? Strange situation. Jameis still needs discipline and I hope a guy he said he idenifies with more (Byron) doesn’t override clear expirence. Will this be like the RGIII situatoin where suddenty RGIII felt like he knew it all, even more than HC? Hope not. I mean, we’re in the season of speculation, so let’s do it. Bottom line is I’m not sure I like the coaching lineup. I like Clyde more tham Byron as OC, but that’s done. These three guys, to me, have this season, or could be all three are done.
April 12th, 2019 at 12:11 am
BUCKIN fans, football is real and it is a very big part of my life. I enjoy it, i shout, scream and holla like im at the game in my own home stadium. Trust me I shed a few tears along the way but realize what is more important in life. Using words like cancer and stroke, etc, are sensitive to what we the people associate them with in are daily life. So yea its not so easy to read when those things are so easily thrown around in a comment to justify dissatisfaction with the outcome of such player/or decision of said team. GMC is probably a way better as a person than a football player, so being a little more appreciative of ones time should not come with a roast of one character. The team has been so far away to being rescued by one individual. 93 doesn’t deserve that kind of vocabulary that relates him to being any type of that what so ever. My plea is simply to use a little more creative in your critique of expressing the displeasure of compassion that generates from the heart. BUCnWINNING!!!