Bucs Trading Up To No. 1?
April 15th, 2019
It’s not farfetched to consider the Bucs trading up in this draft, and one longtime draft analyst and NFL executive sees the Bucs doing just that.
Of course, the Bucs have many needs. That’s what happens when you’re 5-11 in consecutive seasons and flunk free agency. But perhaps the Bucs’ greatest need is simply to not screw up this year’s first-round pick. They cannot miss on a high-impact player.
How far the Bucs trade up is another story. Joe doesn’t see the Bucs trading all the way to the top of the draft. But Pat Kirwan does, per his Friday mock draft on SiriusXM NFL Radio.
Kirwan, the former Jets personnel chief, linebackers coach and Bucs scout, projected the Bucs to trade up to No. 1 in order to draft the top player on many draft boards. It’s also the guy Kirwan said is “No. 1 on my draft board” and “the safest player in the draft.”
He’s defensive tackle Quinnen Williams out of Alabama.
The Bucs would send Gerald McCoy to Arizona for that No. 1 overall pick, along with their No. 5 pick and second-round selection, per Kirwan. Arizona has more than enough salary cap space to accommodate McCoy and make him an instant starter, he added.
No, Joe doesn’t like this deal. But Joe certainly would understand it if Bucco Bruce Arians and Jason Licht thought Williams was that much of a can’t-miss player.
Again, the Bucs just can’t screw up this first-round choice — kind of like Arians did with a hand in a long string of bad first-round picks in Arizona.
All kinds of beer specials flowing!!!!
April 15th, 2019 at 9:03 am
Second round pick is almost always a waste for the Bucs, so why not?
April 15th, 2019 at 9:07 am
That would be a GREAT deal !
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for Arizona
April 15th, 2019 at 9:09 am
Because this is what teams who are 1 PLAYER away from the Super Bowl do!!!
Not a team who is 8-9 players away!!!
April 15th, 2019 at 9:09 am
Bucs have so many holes to fix thanks to the incompetent GM already on board….im not sure how BA vision and lichts are going to mesh as the bucs are far off and what is successful? 7-9? I think if they are not at least 10-6 and in playoffs then it is not successful and IMHO the bucs are 2-3 years away from that
April 15th, 2019 at 9:12 am
Also cap to consider here. First picks are expensive. And we have a lot of needs
April 15th, 2019 at 9:16 am
No such thing as a can’t miss player. Nobody knows for sure. Also even if his talent or work ethic isn’t an issue there is always the chance he gets a career ending injury or even one that takes away some athleticisim right off the bat. It’s why putting your eggs all in one basket is never a good idea.
April 15th, 2019 at 9:16 am
Please don’t do that we need those picks, DT and DE are loaded this year. We can trade GM for a 2nd Rd. pick and get a DT and a CB in the second. 1st rd. get Devin White. Get Justice Hill RB in the 3rd
April 15th, 2019 at 9:17 am
I don’t think we need to do with less draft picks under any circumstance….
April 15th, 2019 at 9:22 am
Sounds like too sweet a deal for bucs. Arizona would want our first next year.
April 15th, 2019 at 9:24 am
That wouldn’t be enough to move up to #1
April 15th, 2019 at 9:26 am
pick ed oliver at #5, OG in the second record and jachi polite in the 3rd round…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 15th, 2019 at 9:31 am
I would rather use GMC as a chip to trade up from 39, not 5. That makes more sense to me.
April 15th, 2019 at 9:33 am
That would be a mistake to set back franchise. Please don’t make that move or draft this guy. I also think that’s not enough for the number one overall pic
April 15th, 2019 at 9:39 am
What a silly idea
Nobody is trading for GMC when they can just wait for him to be cut
April 15th, 2019 at 9:42 am
Garbage deal, would rather see them stay where they are and take Oliver or trade back for picks.
April 15th, 2019 at 9:45 am
Desperate teams make desperate moves.
AND, lets get one thing straight here, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A “CAN’T MISS” PROSPECT!
If Williams was a “can’t miss”, Arizona would not be picking a QB. That’s a fact!
April 15th, 2019 at 9:46 am
If we trade up to 1 it’s because Arians think Jameis is a joke and we will be drafting Kyler Murray. Sorry but that’s the truth…
April 15th, 2019 at 9:46 am
@Joe … “How far the Bucs trade up is another story.” Interesting scenario Joe. ONLY Jason Licht & the Bucs would be callous enough to TRADE UP (and end up with FEWER picks) than to TRADE DOWN (and end up with MORE picks) given our starting holes on defense. And just when I thought nothing could be sillier than drafting yet another DE in the 1st Round. Astonishing!
BTW Joe, good job over this past month or so in helping JBFers focus on our offensive & defensive NEEDS. No agreement (none expected) but a lot of good points of view have been traded on these pages. Kudos.
April 15th, 2019 at 9:53 am
813bucboi Says:
April 15th, 2019 at 9:26 am
pick ed oliver at #5, OG in the second record and jachi polite in the 3rd round…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
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Agreed
April 15th, 2019 at 10:00 am
What a dumb idea.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:00 am
If the Bucs did this then Backstabbin’ Jason Licht should be fired on the spot.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:04 am
Jason Licht is much more likely to trade down
April 15th, 2019 at 10:08 am
We have to many holes. No need to give up any picks.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:08 am
Andrew Says
“Also cap to consider here. First picks are expensive.”
In this case that does not apply because the Bucs would be dumping GMCs salary too…saving 13 million.
Really, the price of the trade isn’t horrible.
And that’s what makes it impossible.
Not to mention Jason Licht doesn’t trade players during the draft…so if it happened it would be all on Arians.
Personally, I don’t feel it is worth it. The only reason to go after the first pick woulds be for a Quarterback. Not only do we have one, but no QB in this draft is worthy of the #1 overall pick.
And at least three defensive guys are worth top 5 picks. Probably more than three. So trading up is a horrible idea. I don’t even expect us to trade down this year, if I’m honest. I think Arians wants that #5 selection.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:10 am
D-Rome Says
“If the Bucs did this then Backstabbin’ Jason Licht should be fired on the spot.”
Clearly you are not paying attention. Jason Licht is making no decisions this year. This is all Arians.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:12 am
If Jason does this fire him on the spot
April 15th, 2019 at 10:13 am
I would love that trade!
Wouldn’t give a second though, McCoy 3rd round this year and a 4th round next year should be enough! Draft Miles Sanders from penn state if he’s there in the second and draft DB’s, o lineman and linebacker with the rest of picks
April 15th, 2019 at 10:13 am
Kirwan is being an idiot in this case.
– It seems very unlikely that Williams is going first overall. So why would the Bucs pay a hefty price to go all the way to #1 if they were looking to move up for him?
– The “value” of the #1 overall pick is more than all 7 of the Bucs 2019 picks combined according to the draft trade chart. What makes Kirwan think the Cardinals would trade down from #1 for such a ridiculously low price? (2nd rd pick + McCoy who is only worth a 4th or 5th Rd pick).
These talking heads sure do like to throw crap against the wall in case some of it sticks…..
April 15th, 2019 at 10:14 am
Arizona taking their QB of future at 1
April 15th, 2019 at 10:15 am
These are obviously comments who never listen to the weekly mock drafts that Kirwan and his cohost do. They just do this stuff for fun, last week they picked Devin White in the first and Rock ya Sin in the 2nd. They do this every year to just have fun and they always, always say that they have no idea what any team is doing, too funny 😂, these reactions
April 15th, 2019 at 10:22 am
@rrsrq
Thank you for that info. I don’t listen to his mocks. You may have just prevented me from a panic attack lol.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:25 am
Kyler Murray is the only player the Bucs should be trading up for at #1. Send Jameis to Arizona along with their #5 pick. Good trade, fair and square.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:31 am
II believe Q will fall to the Bucs at #5 anyway.
If they wanted to be certain, they could swap picks with the Jets and save the 2nd rounder. Swap firsts, McCoy and a 4th round pick.
If the Jets wanted an edge rusher, Allen or Sweat would be there at #5.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:44 am
FLBoyInDallas Says:
“Kyler Murray is the only player the Bucs should be trading up for at #1. Send Jameis to Arizona along with their #5 pick. Good trade, fair and square.”
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No thanks to Kyler Murray. Not interested.
Jameis Winston will be just fine.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:52 am
Lol, No thanks.
Way too many needs on this team to give away picks.
I think Kirwan has been out of the league a little too long.
April 15th, 2019 at 11:18 am
Next week they will have a listener/phone caller mock draft, it’s all funn
April 15th, 2019 at 11:55 am
I agree with trading up but only Josh Allen and not trading up to #1 more like #3 would make sense
April 15th, 2019 at 12:06 pm
This would really piss me.off
April 15th, 2019 at 12:11 pm
HASKIns with that pick
April 15th, 2019 at 12:20 pm
Bucs will never trade up to 1 now lets go to the next Drama
April 15th, 2019 at 1:18 pm
Trading up for finally getting that elite edge guy isnt out of the question in my opinion. but trading up for Williams is a joke when you can just stay put and get Oliver at 5. Williams film is fine but its not that much better than DaRon Payne’s film and its not better than Johnathan Allen (bamas last 2 first round DTs). I can see moving up to three for Bosa or Allen though.
April 15th, 2019 at 5:46 pm
Surprise? No. Mistake? Yes. Stay put and take the linebacker. Trade GMC to anyone who wants him, and be happy with the 7’th round pick you get.
April 15th, 2019 at 6:58 pm
Licht could probably get the Jets or Pats to give up a 6th rd pick – to take on GMC’s $13M 2019 salary….They both have the cap space to roll the dice on a 1yr GMC rejuvenation.
(1) A 6th rd pick for aging All-Pro- just looks like a Belicheat draft day move, on paper…(2) The Jets want to be the Pats..Licht would only have to float idea that Bill was interested in adding GMC for a 6th to pique Woody Johnson’s ring envy & interest in keeping him from going to the enemy!
April 15th, 2019 at 7:29 pm
Iam hoping Bruce can pick better than Licht. He is the reason why we suck and in salary cap trouble.
April 15th, 2019 at 7:45 pm
Hahahahaha
Why would Arizona take GMC when they could have the Williams
An over the hill 30s DT with maybe one year left on the decline
Or a 23 year old man beast on the rise with 7 or 8 years left
HEY JOE NO ONE WANTS GMC
That’s why he is still here
April 15th, 2019 at 9:42 pm
McCoy and his salary are a poison pill. Kirwan is getting a bit wacky in his advanced age.
April 15th, 2019 at 10:47 pm
Let me get this straight. Arizona will trade the number 1 where they can get their QB or Bosa for a half-foot-out-the-door GMC? Nobody is going to trade for GMC as the Bucs have made it abundantly and stupidly clear they have no interest to keep his 13M salary at his rate of production. If anything, the Cards may trade down to 4, but not 5. The Raiders could offer something more tempting with draft picks alone.
Pat Kirwan needs to be admitted. The extra 2nd Rd pick does not make up for this tom foolery. This is pure stupidity just to crank out a piece at the cost of the little rep Kirwan had left.
April 16th, 2019 at 12:56 am
I don’t agree that it wouldn’t be enough. Kirwan is onto something. The trade could make sense for both sides. The Cards would get McCoy who many teams covet, drop only 4 spots down and then get our 2nd pick also. It’s enough ammo to move up but I don’t like it. I’d rather stay true at 5 and see who is available. There could easily be 2 Qb’s picked ahead of us leaving one of Bosa, Allen or Q to fall to us. Also, I don’t care how bad we have been with 2nd rd picks, it’s still extremely valuable to a team that has back to back 5 win campaigns.