Best Pickup
April 18th, 2019
Best new Bucs player?
With the draft just ’round the corner, it’s fair to put to an end to the free agency period.
NFL teams are too busy in their war rooms doing draft prep work. Joe knows Bucs types were in meetings just yesterday until late in the evening. It’s pretty much the norm throughout the NFL before NFL folks have a brief Easter Weekend break.
Brad Gagnon of Bleacher Report decided to look at each NFL team’s free agency season to find their best signing. With the Bucs, Gagnon believes Shaq Barrett was it.
The 2014 undrafted free agent often displayed a strong repertoire as a pass-rusher during his five seasons with the Broncos, but he was always buried behind Von Miller and other highly drafted edge-defenders like Derek Wolfe, Shane Ray and Bradley Chubb.
He should have more opportunities in Tampa, where he should also be inspired on a one-year, prove-it contract. And there’s plenty of reason to believe he’ll improve. Barrett is only 26 and should have almost all of the tread on his tires considering his workload in Denver.
In the immortal words of Moe Howard, we shall see.
But someone Joe trusts about football much more than Gagnon is Pat Kirwan of SiriusXM NFL Radio. The former Bucs scout and Jets director of player personnel recently acted on the air as if he had an attack of acid reflux when he thought about Barrett being a full-time starter.
It seems people like Barrett’s pass-rushing ability, but it appears the Bucs are trying to turn a specialist into a full-time player.
We shall see.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:46 am
Joe, don’t know what this line is actually saying:
“It seems people like Barrett was his pass-rushing ability, but it appears the Bucs are trying to turn a specialist into a full-time player.”
April 18th, 2019 at 10:48 am
I don’t think he will be a starter when September comes. More snaps than Denver but not a true starter. Arians and Licht have repeatedly mentioned Nass it and JPP as presumptive starters, and there’s a draft next week plus about $13 million in cap relief coming to pick through the remainder of the FA pool.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:49 am
Don’t sleep on Breshad Perriman…..I will go on record to predict that Perriman will exceed Djax’s production from last year at a fraction of the cost.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:51 am
Negative Nancy
it’s saying once again the bucs are trying to squeeze a square peg in a round hole… this minor league franchise filled with idiots once again is trying to outsmart themselves. this guy is a one trick pony a nice piece but nothing special outside of 5 or 6 plays a year. but remember the goal is basement titles not to compete at a nfl level therefore it’s all good…
April 18th, 2019 at 11:06 am
Pat Kirwan doesn’t give any explanation whatsoever in that link for his opinion so I don’t know how to even value that…
So you liked him as a backup because that’s what he was doing awesome as or something? Seriously what is the logic other than “uuuuuugh!”?
And not sure he is penciled in as anything considering we may likely spend our R1 or R2 pick on a 3-4 OLB/DE
April 18th, 2019 at 11:37 am
Tmax
You’re right about this fan base is full of idiots. You’re just on the opposite side of that line that u think you are.
April 18th, 2019 at 11:41 am
Seriously someone use football logic to explain how Barrret is a “specialist”
Per all Denver reports this guy played the run well and rushed the passer well..
Per PFF he’s always been a solid run defender and solid at pressuring the QB…
Is he a “specialist” because he was a rotational player before? Because he played limited snaps even if those snaps entailed the full encompassing role of a traditional 3-4 OLB?
That’s like the Falcons converted Devonte Freeman from a “specialist” to a full time player when they went from burying him behind Steven Jackson to giving him starters workloads.
April 18th, 2019 at 11:47 am
Barrett is just depth at OLB. As is Noah Spence.
Hopefully one or both of them will have a career year and become a nice chess piece to move around and let them get after the QB this season.
April 18th, 2019 at 11:48 am
Did we convert Carl Nassib from an unemployment “specialist” to a full time starter?
Was Cam Brate a specialist at Harvard speeches and we made him a good TE?
Was Jamaal Charles a specialist his rookie season when he was barely used and then became a borderline HOF RB because the team “converted him” to it?
I can’t get over this logic lol.
It’s not like he’s a pass rushing specialist being forced to play nose tackle or something.
It’s a round peg round hole. The concern more-so would be if he can be as effective in a weaker front 7 without Von Miller taking attention off of him.
But “specialist” implies he has a certain skill set that may only work in certain situations which isn’t the report on this guy
April 18th, 2019 at 11:49 am
shaq was a great pick up….hopefully he can teach spence a thing or 2….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 18th, 2019 at 12:19 pm
Im hoping for a guy who was like the healthy version of Jaq Smith for us. Wasnt a probowler but was able to make his way towards the QB and cause fits for opposing lineman. Getting guys who just do their job decently would be a major improvement over the last near decade of Bucs defense. Beyond sick of seeing QBs having their best games of the season again the Bucs because theyre able to drop back and read the sunday morning paper before they throw the ball.
April 18th, 2019 at 12:24 pm
Tampabaybucfan Said:
April 18th, 2019 at 10:49 am
Don’t sleep on Breshad Perriman…..I will go on record to predict that Perriman will exceed Djax’s production from last year at a fraction of the cost.
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This is my belief too, and Perriman will be considered, at season’s end, our best pickup.
April 18th, 2019 at 12:31 pm
This isn’t rocket science. Shaq Barrett will certainly help but sign quick agile pass rushers. Sign DT Ed Oliver in the 1st round, football stripping DE/OLB Jachai Polite in the second, trade a 5th for ILB Darron Lee/Jets who already knows the defense and get after the QB! DT Quinnen Williams is the only other player I would take ahead of Oliver!
April 18th, 2019 at 12:39 pm
I would sign Tytus Howard/Alabama State, Conner McGovern/Penn State, or Max Scharping/NIU as a plug and play right guard in the 3rd round and wouldn’t give a damn what happens the rest of the draft.
April 18th, 2019 at 12:56 pm
Depth is a bad thing now?
April 18th, 2019 at 1:49 pm
@joe
I will take the deletion of my question as a NO there is no more information on the subject. Also I’ll assume that we will not hear anything else about it as though it never happened. I apologize, and didn’t feel as my question was rude, nasty, or made light of the serious situation. Was just wondering if anymore details have come in. I saw a comment yesterday about a over\under joke and clearly I wasn’t speaking like that, but odd that a comment like that could slip through the cracks but a serious question is deleted. Honestly, I know im not only one with questions. Sorry Joe but you guys are our information center
April 18th, 2019 at 2:43 pm
@Macabee
I could flip R2 / R3 with OLB/DEs and OG depending on who is there. McGovern is the only pure OG in your list while the others project as OTs.
I want a guy who can only play OG so that the staff can’t f&ck him up.
dream scenario of no trade backs and no Q Williams/J Allen available IMO:
R1-Ed Oliver DT/DE
R2-Chris Lindstrom or Elgton Jenkins OG
R3-Jachai Polite OLB/DE
R4-best RB with hands and upside available (Rodney Anderson?/Montgomery if there)
R5-trade for Darron Lee ILB (give up another future 5th or something if needed)
R6-R7-BPA CB/S/WR
Move Gerald for whatever you can get and sign Mo Claiborne for CB depth
3-4 base look:
ROLB-Jachai Polite/Noah Spence
RDE-Beau Allen / Will Gholston
NT-Vita Vea / Allen
LDE-Ed Oliver / Will Gholston
LOLB-JPP/Nassib
ILB-Daron Lee + Lavonte David; Buccanon + Minter as depth
FS-Justin Evans/Bryce whatever his face/Deon Beuccanon
SS-Jordan Whitehead/MJ Stewart
CB-VHIII / Davis
In nickle:
DE-Nassib
DT-Vea
DT-Oliver
DE-JPP
David + Lee at LB
Same S group
CB-Davis/Claiborne
nickle CB-VHIII
But they want to keep VHIII completely outside. Nickle CB might have to be drafted earlier
April 18th, 2019 at 2:45 pm
Macabre your the best poster on this site by far!!!
April 18th, 2019 at 3:31 pm
I can’t wait to see everyone cry when they take White at #5 even with Allen on the board. The only player they have than White is DT.Willams
April 18th, 2019 at 3:34 pm
I’m a Bucs fan living in Colorado. I’ve watched many Broncos games on Sundays with nothing but Broncos fans. Trust me when I say, Barret is a great pickup for us. Every Bronco fan I know, and that’s plenty, wish Denver would have retained him. He’s definitely a starter in the league that unfortunately like this article stated, has been in a backup role because of previously higher drafted players.
April 18th, 2019 at 4:33 pm
@DVSONE
I’m in Denver myself . I think there’s like one other person I’ve seen posting around here from the Springs.
I don’t think there’s a good watch spot for Bucs games here? There is for FSU games but it’d be cool to get that going here; even though people might think we’re crazy
April 18th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
Lord Corn & DVSONE
I’m in florissant, co quit a few co bucfans. He’s a good pickup yes. A piece, yes but a savior or difference maker, i don’t think so
Dvs you are not pitbull daycare dvs are you?
April 18th, 2019 at 5:26 pm
Technically the picture could have meant Blaine Gabbert as best pick up.
April 18th, 2019 at 6:10 pm
Joe is dying for an edge rusher -but, we have Nassib, JPP, Barrett, Spence and BA/Bowles have already said they will be using LVD a lot in blitz packages
There is absolutely no doubt we need DT and LB far worse than we need another edge rusher to play 20 snaps a game. Of the four, Spense is the only unknown and is a definite #4 in the rotation – maybe grab a developmental kid in the 4th..
PLEASE SEE THE TRUTH JOE!!!!
April 18th, 2019 at 6:12 pm
Pitbull daycare, not me.
I live in Fort Collins. I had no idea Tmax/Lord were from CO. There isn’t a place here to watch TB games. I think you’re right though, people might think we’re crazy haha. I know 2 other TB fans in FTC.
I’ve been coming to this site for a few years now, rarely do I comment though. I just thought I would since I’m familiar with Barret’s game. I think he’s going to surprise a lot of people with more playing time.
April 18th, 2019 at 6:56 pm
Been telling Joe Shaq is a starter in this league. Just has always had bigger names ahead of him on the depth chart. Shaq about to do work this season. There are a number of film sessions on YouTube. This man has a full arsenal. He said at his first Bucs presser he’s been working all offseason to add a bull rush to that arsenal. “If” Josh Allen had the repertoire or at least some of what Shaq shows in his film I would be shouting Allen from the roof tops. I just don’t see it. All I observe from him is a speed rush. You more in this league.
April 18th, 2019 at 6:58 pm
No prospect in this class is a better all around rusher of the passer (outside) than Shaq Barret. I’ve viewed all of them.
April 18th, 2019 at 7:25 pm
I want the biggest, badest most talented Pitbull in the pen. So tired of these dancing fools aka finesse players. Offense with a little luck can get you to the post season but defense and toughness is what will win you playoff games!
April 19th, 2019 at 9:58 am
Would like to see any proof where the Bucs have said they plan to use Barrett as a full-time starter. Really like that they added him, but haven’t seen anywhere where they’ve said he’s an automatic starter. Seems more like a situational rusher to start, but guess we’ll see in September.