Landon Collins Lands $15 Million Per Season From The Redskins
March 11th, 2019
A deal at $11 million?
Yes, the Bucs are desperately in need of playmakers and leaders in their secondary.
Joe would understand if Bucco Bruce Arians wants his staff to work with the long list of young defensive backs on the roster, a bunch that got second-rate coaching over at least two seasons. But Joe firmly believes the Bucs need at least one stud veteran back there to raise the level of play — and to stop offensive coordinators from drooling.
Big-time talent still matters, despite what the Patriots do every year.
So what would free agent safety and Bucco Bruce Arians favorite Tyrann Mathieu really cost the Bucs? That’s a tough question now that NFL Network is reporting Giants safety Landon Collins just scored $45 million guaranteed over three years from the Washington Redskins.
Mathieu, 26, now would seem like a bargain if he commanded $11 million per season.
Joe’s not worried about finding serviceable linebackers on the market to play alongside Lavonte David. Heck, it’s being written by reputable sources that Redskins linebacker/team captain Mason Foster will be let go for salary cap considerations. He’s coming off a very good season for a solid defense.
Joe’s not lobbying for Foster, but the point is there are plenty of players like him available cheap. If the Bucs are going to bow out of the crazy-expensive linebacker sweepstakes, then they should make a big play in the defensive backfield.
Otherwise, all they’ll really end up doing defensively this offseason is drafting a manbeast defensive lineman, plugging linebacker holes and hoping their second-round pick isn’t like all the others since 2015.
That’s not enough to fix this defense. And no, Joe doesn’t think Todd Bowles is capable of extreme miracles. The Bucs should be building for a 2020 season Super Bowl run. They need to get those cornerstone pieces in now, not next year.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:40 pm
Like last year… just need to wait a little while, will be plenty of quality safeties, Lbs and wrs.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:40 pm
$15 mil?! Sheesh! I’m in the wrong business!
March 11th, 2019 at 3:40 pm
We simply can’t-a$$ afford a $15million dollar player……period.
Not going to happen……forget it.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:42 pm
Great article and points. From an entertainment perspective I wish something exciting would happen to give us a glimpse of our new direction but I wouldn’t pay 100,000 for a honda civic either.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:43 pm
That make Chris Conte a steal !
March 11th, 2019 at 3:43 pm
Teams must expect the salary cap to dramatically increase on the next CBA. These contracts are shocking.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:44 pm
I hope they don’t let him wear 21.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:44 pm
“Building for a 2020 season Super Bowl run”…. that means drafting Dwayne Haskins at #5.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:44 pm
Bucs have no chance at a big name.
Ridiculous money thrown out
Kwon’s contract is highway robbery.
You gotta even remember some teams have 100 mil to spend.
Good thing the safety free agent class is deep.
We will be quiet. Fans will be upset but we have lowest cap available.
Joe felt Mathieu would get bigger deal then Collins
I said Collins would get bigger deal.
I’m looking good so far.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:46 pm
I think we need a proven CB more than a proven S. But we should sign vets at both those spots and LB.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:46 pm
This is why you need to draft well…
But wow, $15m for a safety, wow…
That’s a lot of money.
Just think if the Bucs had drafted the All-Pro James, they’d have all-pro production locked up at a good rate for 5 years. Vita and still certainly become very valuable as well, not dissing him, but until he proves otherwise that not picking James non-pick looks worse and worse when lesser players are already making this kind of money.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:47 pm
WHen you do not have money on your cap you just have to see things happening in front of your eyes and do nothing……First news will be the expensve ones, thats not where we belong, we belong to a second tier free agents market this year……..
March 11th, 2019 at 3:50 pm
BUCS NEED TO PAY A CB!!!!!! WE DON’T EVEN HAVE A STARTER OPPOSITE OF DAVIS AND IF YOU SAY VH3, YOUR AN IDIOT. We have two young safeties with potential that are gonna start getting coached up by the career secondary coach DC Bowels. Find a middle of the pack vet that’s not going to cost $10 million a year.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:50 pm
Trey Flowers just got 16 mil per yr and flipping nickeback Justin Coleman got 12 mil per yr!!!
InSane money these guys are raking in.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:52 pm
This is simply a stupid signing. Can you say Daniel Snyder!
March 11th, 2019 at 3:56 pm
*Find a middle of the pack vet that’s not going to cost $10 million a year.
Middle pack Safety that is. Need to pay a boss CB.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:57 pm
No loss for the Bucs
March 11th, 2019 at 3:58 pm
Get used to it…..One by one these high-priced FAs are signing somewhere else…..this was always going to be the case…..all of these players featured-trotted-out over the last few weeks as possible Bucs……Ha, Ha!!!
Never, ever was going to happen…..Trey Flowers is next.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:58 pm
I really wish we knew now if Beckwith was going to be able to suit up this upcoming season.
March 11th, 2019 at 3:59 pm
JUST IN! Ian Rapeareporter just posted:
“Tyron Mathieu inks a 5-year deal with the Bucs valued at $2.4 billion! He now owns the team!”
Sign up his agent!!!
March 11th, 2019 at 4:01 pm
We have Justin…..
March 11th, 2019 at 4:07 pm
These contracts just prove what I’ve said since last year when I said the team needed to trade for Bell… the best defense is an offense that can score 40.
At this point just blow up the defense, trade guys for whatever you can get, draft all young guys – and spend all that money on the offense. Sign Bell. Sign a guard. Heck, even resign Hump.
Then draft all defensive guys and let them take their lumps while you try to outscore everyone.
Seriously.
March 11th, 2019 at 4:20 pm
Andrew Adams hasn’t been signed yet…..there is hope.
March 11th, 2019 at 4:23 pm
Collins was abused whenever we played the giants even in the losses, he’s not worth 15 million. Jason Licht messes up big time with the roster and should have had a plan to replace his oldest most expensive players. Dude is like Bruce Allen with free agents
March 11th, 2019 at 4:28 pm
With all these big deals makes me think Donovan Smiths deal isn’t that bad aftwr all…
March 11th, 2019 at 4:31 pm
Super bowl run- funny
March 11th, 2019 at 4:37 pm
Last year safeties couldn’t sniff a decent contract…..fast forward to this year and they’re getting QB contracts.
The NFL has no consistency…. either that or it now has two Gruden brothers coaching at the same time trying to see who can sign a guy to the most out of control contract.
March 11th, 2019 at 4:40 pm
@Joe … “Joe’s not worried about finding serviceable linebackers on the market to play alongside Lavonte David”. Serviceable LBs? Is that what championship teams are made of Joe …. serviceable LBs? From my perspective, Middle Linebacker is the key to a great defense. MLBs like Brian Urlacher, Ray Lewis & a host of other HOFers defined the great defenses that they played in. They were the leader of the pack, the Alpha Dog. Not with lots of talk, but by their play on the field. Bucs defense NEEDS a beastly MLB who not only exhibits superior play on the field, but who’s also a FIELD GENERAL. We have an opportunity to get one by drafting Devin White at #5 this year. Don’t blow it Jason.
And Joe, sorry but no safety is worth $15 mil a year. Team salaries are capped at $188,200 this year and that has to cover the Top-51 players as you know better than I do. Winston ($20.9 mil), ME13 ($20 mil), JPP ($14.9 mil), GMC ($13 mil), D Smith ($12.5 mil), Marpet ($11 mil), Jensen ($10 mil), David ($9.75 mil), Brate ($7 mil) and Allen ($5 mil) … our TEN highest-paid players … total $124 mil. (And no, I didn’t include DJax in those numbers because HE’S A GONER). That’s a whopping 66% of our available $$$ for less than 20% of our roster. So the remaining 43 players have to make do with $64 mil … and the next TEN of those 43 players are making quite a bit already … Dotson ($4.8 mil), VHIII ($4.5 mil), Gholston ($3.75 mil), Unrein ($3.75 mil), Vea ($3.3 mil), OJ ($3 mil), Anger ($3 mil), Ryan Smith ($2.2 mil), Benenoch ($2.1 mil) and Nassib ($2 mil) make somewhat over $32 mil (another 17% of our salary Cap). So the Top-20 players are making $156.4 mil (83% of the salary Cap).
Wow, that now leaves a whopping $32 mil for 33 players to flesh out our 53-man roster. In what universe does that make any sense whatsoever? Oh I forgot, it apparently makes perfect sense in Jason Licht’s universe, because he’s the one who created this mess.
You want to know why the Bucs have no REAL depth? You want to know why, as soon as the injury bug strikes, we have to put mediocre meh-players into our starting lineup? The answer lies in the $32 mil for 33 players … we can’t afford QUALITY DEPTH. Bucs are spending WAY TOO MUCH $$$ for our Top-10 and Top-20 players. And adding more Joe only aggravates an already nasty salary Cap situation.
March 11th, 2019 at 4:40 pm
All this money being thrown around is crazy. Mega deal after Mega deal. I don’t see how the Bucs can compete for any big name guys unless they choose to come here.
March 11th, 2019 at 4:41 pm
@Rod Munch
Wrong, most of the teams that started out the year scoring ridiculous points ended up falling on their faces by December.
High offensive output isnt consistent and it doesn’t travel, especially late in the season.
Defense and a running game still rules the roost.
March 11th, 2019 at 4:43 pm
I have looked at some of these deals, and teams must be expecting the cap to really jump at the next CBA.
March 11th, 2019 at 4:44 pm
gotbbucs – Point is you literally can’t fix the defense in an offseason, and this is a 5-11 team, lets worry about getting to December and still being in the race before we start worrying our defense won’t hold up in the Superbowl.
March 11th, 2019 at 4:48 pm
StoutGospel Says:
March 5th, 2019 at 10:54 am
Gonna be a Colt in Indy! 1000% mark it down. Fit’s Ballard’s mold of what they want there in Indy, crucial to Eberflus’ scheme, good character kid that Ballard also keeps chirping about. Plus massive massive loot in Indy to throw his agent’s way.
Reality check imposed.
Dude will be a Colt. Just speaking objectively.
Go Bucs! Land Quinnen!
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Thanks for playing. Turns out you’re not smarter than anyone else.
Reality check imposed.
Oh and yes, land Quinnen!
March 11th, 2019 at 4:58 pm
@DR
Most teams are in similar situations in terms of a small # of players taking up the majority of their cap.
Howie Roseman is a pretty respected GM for comparison. Just won a SB. Does well in the draft. Emphasizes trench play.
Looking at their cap situation, their top 10 players make $107M vs our $124M on our top 10 guys. Most of that difference is due to Wentz still being on his rookie deal vs Winston now being a $20M hit.
They only have 20 players making $1M or more per year. Everyone else on that team makes less.
Looking at the Saints – a team that has been pushing for SBs the last few years – their top 10 players make up almost $120M in cap. They have 24 players making $1M or more annually. Everyone else making less.
March 11th, 2019 at 5:05 pm
Joe is confusing the sheep again!!!!!!! They were told that all this team needed was coach stale biscuit and crew to coach up all this scary talent that was being held back by the past regime!!!!!!! Now, without all kinds of additions, it won’t be enough????!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!! the sheep’s head are spinning now!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 11th, 2019 at 5:05 pm
Tyrann Mathieu ‘the honey badger’! Let us NOT forget that he blew one knee out one year and the next year he blew out his other knee. Living in Phoenix I got to see a lot of the Cardinals games and was privy to a lot of information in the media and radio talk shows about Mathieu. I am not an expert and I don’t claim to be but I can tell you this. He was not the same player he was after those injuries. How well can one perform on one repaired knee let alone two. Just sayin’ that it probably isn’t a good idea to throw a ton of money at someone like him. Unless his contract is laden with performance bonuses such as games played in etc.
March 11th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
AlteredEgo Says:
“That make Chris Conte a steal !”
Yeah maybe, because we have seen he is just another push over Saftey. Who is getting robbed in this steal of a deal?
March 11th, 2019 at 6:48 pm
DR & LC – I like what you both discussed. It would be very interesting to see the “Top Ten” and “Second Ten” totals for every team in a sortable spreadsheet to see how the playoff teams compared to the want-a-be teams. It may not clarify whether the more you spend on top talent the more games you win, but it certainly would show which GMs are doing the best a slicing up the salary cap dollars they have to work with. Thanks guys.
Maybe there’s even an article idea in that Joe?
March 11th, 2019 at 7:10 pm
Losing Hump, Kwon, etc… wil net us great comp pics next season. We are basically trading them fir 3-4th rounders next year and salary cap relief this year. I hope Hump gets paid BIG! Any other unrestricted FA that sign elsewhere will help too as long as we don’t replace them with other high priced FA aquisitions. Let’s see what our core can do and keep building for the future while becoming relevant and competing hard this season.
March 11th, 2019 at 7:21 pm
Hump got paid 9 mil by the titans
March 11th, 2019 at 7:35 pm
Former Texans’ S Tyrann Mathieu intends to sign a three-year, $42 million deal with the Kansas City Chiefs, per a league source.