“I Know That The Bucs Have Made A Fairly Significant Offer For A Long Term Deal”
March 5th, 2019
The Bucs seem to think Kwon Alexander has another Pro Bowl in him.
Kwon Alexander’s trashed knee?
The Bucs aren’t scared of it, according to a new report this morning.
The word comes from a guy many Bucs fans frown upon, NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport, whose unsourced report back in December 2017 claimed there was friction between Dirk Koetter and America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.
But whatever you might think of Rapoport, he has great access as a member of the league-owned TV network. And this morning on WDAE-AM 620, Rapoport said Bucs officials have made a big push to lock down Kwon before he hits the market next week.
“I know that the Bucs have made a fairly significant offer for a long term deal,” Rapoport said of the Bucs’ desire for Kwon. “The team has gone a long way toward making sure that Kwon Alexander knows that he his in their long term plans. It doesn’t seem like they’re deterred by the injury.”
Rapoport said Kwon is going to test free agency. That’s not new; Kwon and the Bucs said the same things.
But Rapoport said the powers at One Buc Palace like their chances of retaining their middle linebacker. “There is optimism, at least from the Bucs organization, that this gets done.”
Joe has mixed feelings about Kwon. He tore up his knee and had ACL surgery in November. And he was injured with a hamstring in 2017, missing four games and needing a few games to be effective again. Kwon also had a four-game drug suspension in 2015. And then there’s the matter of the Bucs defense being awful for the last two seasons.
Is he really worth a big contract?
March 5th, 2019 at 8:57 am
This franchise is a clown show if this is true
March 5th, 2019 at 9:00 am
man, I love the guy but not worth a big contract.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:03 am
You simply have to trust the new Coaches……they are having significant input on all Buc moves…..it’s not just Licht now…..
And it all depends on what “significant” is……..
March 5th, 2019 at 9:03 am
Terrible news to wake up to
March 5th, 2019 at 9:06 am
I agree with you, Loyaltotheend. It would be a mistake to sign Kwon Alexander to a long term deal. His skill set is not so special that it warrants locking him up for the long term. If the Bucs resign him, that all points to the hubris of Backstabbin’ Jason Licht. He wants to ensure his draft picks get a second contract regardless of whether they deserve it or not. Kwon does not deserve it.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:06 am
This is from drew rosenhaus, there is no way jason licht is this bad of a gm is there?
March 5th, 2019 at 9:08 am
They have to be careful to evaluate “he who is” vs “who he was”. Kwon loves him some football though and wouldn’t surprise me if he is back 100% soon.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:09 am
Well…To be fair, Bradley Mcdougald for example was NOT some sort of intergalactic stud from outer space on the Bucs as he is for Seattle right now. Kwon does have the ability to shine, and it would be really rich, and very Bucs like if Kwon goes to Denver or something and he puts it altogether. Having CJ Mosely though wouldn’t hurt my feelings
March 5th, 2019 at 9:09 am
Yall still think Bucs plan to draft a MLB in the 1st?
March 5th, 2019 at 9:10 am
To pass on a MLB talent like Devin White who ran a 4.42 and put up fantastic numbers at LSU but instead keep Kwon as our MLB would be criminal. Kwon talks a great game but it’s hard to talk your way into winning a Super Bowl.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:12 am
Here’s the thing – you have to spend money somewhere, and you have a better chance paying one of your guys than a free agent from another team. How has that worked out for us over the last 10 years or so? You can count on one hand how many good free agent signings we’ve had, but would need more hands to count the number of good players that we got rid of that went on to do well elsewhere. I simply refuse to believe that a 5-11 team is really that strapped for cash. Get rid of all the marginal players making $2-6 million and replace them with cheaper players, because pretty much none of them are helping us. But we simply aren’t good enough to get rid of our better players. If that means overpaying them a little, then so be it. You will have to overpay for free agents anyway, so what’s the difference? At least we know what we have with Kwon. We know he’s not going to get his money and quit.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:14 am
I’m sorry…..I’m still laughing over the part when Slapaport said “I know…” at the beginning of talking.
That’s where I tuned out. Slapaport duzn’t “know” squat. Ever. About anything.
Next! C-J…C-J….Mosley!
Go Bucs! Get Quinnen!
March 5th, 2019 at 9:16 am
@Loyaltotheend
YOU are a clown show.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:17 am
Details haven’t even come out yet and ppl are saying its a bad idea LMAO.. you couch fans kill me.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:20 am
Depends on what exactly the definition of a “fairly significant offer” is.
Because if that’s say, 4 years 25 million with 12.5 guaranteed, I’d be all for it. Because with all his faults, Kwon has still shown to capable of making plays in this league. With 6 picks, 22 passes defensed 1 defensive TD, 6 forced fumbles and 7 sacks in his time here despite missing time and he lead the league in solo tackles in 2016.
So the narrative that’s been strutted around as of late that he isn’t productive is flat out untrue. He is not close to being elite. But he is far and away outperforming his 4th round draft status.
I’d say 6.25 million a season would be a fair value. Anything more than that and he can walk. Especially coming back from an acl.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:22 am
Move on from him, to much baggage with injuries, can’t be sure he will be there for you
March 5th, 2019 at 9:25 am
Let him walk. Better options out there for the same money or less.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:25 am
Maybe if we draft Devin White aka the next Pat Willis we can use Kwon in that hybrid lb/safety role Deone Buchanan used to play for Todd Bowles.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:25 am
No to the Red Roister.
Yes to Humphries.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:25 am
Draft White and put Kwon on the outside
March 5th, 2019 at 9:26 am
Does Jason Gump even watch film? Most of the time Kwon is a dumpster fire. Watch Nickerson,Quarles, D. Selmon ,Cecil the diesel, Brooks, Batman Wood and then tell me Kwon has anything on those guys.
Gump is going to spend millions on one splash play per game. Sad.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:30 am
We reward people with big contracts that suck. Kwon is a average lb that can’t stay on the field. Money can be better spent on draft picks. White will be there at #5, why pay Kwon?
March 5th, 2019 at 9:32 am
Signing CJ Mosley and drafting LB White from LSU would make too much sense. That’s why the Bucs will overpay for an unreliable, overrated LB. The clown show continues. SMH
March 5th, 2019 at 9:34 am
No.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:36 am
If he stays, he will not be the middle LB. They will use his talent for blitzing off the right side.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:37 am
“Let him walk. Better options out there for the same money or less.”
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Like who? I would love to hear some actual examples.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:39 am
All of y’all that are so ready to throw kwon away don’t seem to realize that Kendall Beckwith very well may never play again.
Not saying Kwon should be over paid. But he is definitely a good not great player. Draft Devin White and keep Kwon at a fair price is what makes the most sense to me.
In a perfect world I’d love to have CJ Mosely over Kwon. But Mosely is indeed one of the best LB’s in the league and will easily fetch 11+ mil per season on the open market.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:40 am
Y’all honestly think we have to draft a linebacker fifth overall. Some of you sound really stupid. As if there’s going to be one single elite linebacker to come out of this draft give me a break. White is not the only one and besides defensive line is where the value is, you don’t get a linebacker there you get a pass rusher.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:41 am
@Bruce Gigolo … “you couch fans kill me.” Interesting choice of words Bruce obviously doesn’t include you). Guess my memory’s fading. Tell me again, what NFL team did you play for?
March 5th, 2019 at 9:42 am
Would rather have Mosley at $10 than Kwon at $6.5……and….I guess this likely means that Beckwith is finished.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:47 am
@Tampabaybucfan,
Mosley is probably more in the neighborhood of $15M per year. Besides, he’s not known to be great in coverage. Is that something you would want in our division?
March 5th, 2019 at 9:49 am
Kwon is overrated. Please pass.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:54 am
I wouldn’t rather have Mosley for $15 than Kwon for 6.5……and, I’m not so sure Kwon is that great in coverage…
Don’t get me wrong….I like Kwon…..but with the possibility of drafting Devin White and the question marks on Kwon’s recovery……I am hesitant to offer him big $$$…
Let him test the market..
March 5th, 2019 at 9:58 am
Not there yet… Lavonte entering the tail end of his career, very possible we lose Kwon to FA, Beckwith could have a career ending injury, Jack Cichy injury prone, Joe dirt is a no talent bum.
And Devin White is an elite level prospect with an incredibly high ceiling. 4.42 and a 40 inch vert at 240? Looked buttery smooth in movement/ agility drills, 2nd highest rated coverage over in 2018 per PFF. Dick Butkus award winner despite only playing the position for 3 years.
And we could potentially trade down 2 spots with Jacksonville and still get him? Devin White is going to be a force to be reckoned with. He is the next Keuchly/Wagner/Willis type backer. Now I’m not saying you take him over Q Williams or J Allen, or even Ed Oliver tbh, but he is going to be an instant starter and we could do a lot worse.
March 5th, 2019 at 9:59 am
move on from Kwon. He has been on all time bad defenses and was not that much of a difference maker. we need to inject new and more elite talent on this roster. Dev White or CJ mosley if you want to spend money!
March 5th, 2019 at 10:01 am
@Tampabaybucfan,
I think Kwon is adequate in coverage. Kwon’s best qualities (in my opinion) are his ability to make splash plays. Yes he makes his share of mistakes, but those splash plays are huge, and it’s just not easy to find guys like that.
If we draft Devin White, then I don’t see how or why we would keep Kwon, unless we move him to outside LB to replace Beckwith. But of course you can’t pay him that kind of money if that’s the plan. However, I think the smart play is to draft an elite pass rusher if one is available (which there should be one available).
As for his recovery, I don’t think there are question marks. He’s running, doing squats, etc. I’d be shocked if he wasn’t ready for training camp, if not sooner.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:02 am
It totally agree with AwShBucs!
Kwon has never been as good as White. I’m tired of having undersized MLB’s which seems to be a Buc’s tradition. White is larger, faster, more athletic and like Kwon comes from Linebacker U.
But As ASB says Kwon may not be elite but he IS a good football player! Move him to the outside and if his knee hasn’t slowed him down he can still be very effective.
As for this report…a lot of posters have also expressed my view.
Is this report from Rosenhaus or Licht/Arians?
What is “significant”?
Have the Bucs truly done their due medical diligence on Kwon’s knee. Can he even run a cone drill yet? Would this offer be for a pig in a poke?
I love Kwon’s heart. I hope he gets back to full speed no matter where he plays.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:03 am
Beckwith does look like he is done and Jason Gump is about to do something he will regret next season. We will likely lose Humphries also in the process of signing Kwon to a ridiculous deal. Its a Bucs life.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:09 am
This will be another Licht reach….Right now he’s extended Evans, Brate and Marpet. In 5 drafts….over 35 picks….he’s extended 3 guys with Brate already being pegged as overpriced. We have the #5 pick in the draft…we’ve found multiple LBs in rds 2-4. I think you can let Kwon walk….groom a young guy and create cap space.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:11 am
Horrible move. Light trying to make his draft picks look good.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:13 am
folks keep talking about devin white but if we dont get the dline right, devin white will have a lineman in his lap every snap…..
sign cj mosley to pair with LVD….then sign the honey badger and let him play down in the box and blitz him….let whitehead and j.evans continue to develop at safety…..we’ll be set…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
March 5th, 2019 at 10:13 am
Here’s another element we ALL need to take a look at….
When Kingsbury in Arizona takes Murray at #1….I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt that every other QB-needy team is going to just sit there and let the Giants take Haskins at #6! They won’t! Which, ONLY IF Q IS NOT on the board at #5, makes our #5 pick MIGHTY, mighty important for Dolphins and Redskins, plus 1 or 2 sleeper teams unspoken to date, to NEED to jump the Giants on the clock, for Haskins!
Gump, BA and crew need to REALLY mull that over!
Go Bucs! Get Quinnen!
March 5th, 2019 at 10:17 am
Hawaiian… by my estimation, the only 2 surefire elite edge rushers in this draft are Bosa and Allen. Burns and Sweat appear to be very good athletes with pretty good tape and a buttload of potential but both are on the skinnier side and may not yet be capable of being 3 down players in the NFL.
Clelin Ferrell has the goods on tape, can get to the Qb and is stout against the run, but is not a great athlete and lacks that ability to truly dip and bend on his way to crush the Qb. Relying more on power and grit.
And then you have Gary who is the clear bust of the group and shows nothing on tape but is a great athlete, Gruden probably picks him with one of his 1st round picks
Lb is definitely a need as of right now. And I’m not sure I’d want Any of the non Bosa/Allen edge prospects more than Devin White who looks to be a sure fire 10 year starter as the Qb of the defense.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:18 am
Thought the comish’s podcast was interesting on the lack of value in Devin White at 5 vs elite DL or OL.
Not sure how I feel yet.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:18 am
Wow so much Kwon hate when we don’t even know the proposed contract numbers lol. If you can get Kwon with reasonable salary then we don’t have to waist 1st rd pick on LB. We need help on Dline first and foremost in rd 1.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:22 am
AwShbucs thank you for that Mel Kiper like breakdown of devin white college tape you just translated to the nfl before a single snap and compared him to some of the great backers of this generation. There are more than a couple “instant” starters at linebacker. We could trade down I don’t care how many spots if a top tier pass rusher is there it has to be the pick. MLB doesn’t change not being able to get to the quarterback which is most important. I think everyone is going to look better playing in a different scheme. Dang maybe this is what the new coaching staff wants not just licht. You don’t have the tape they have so none of you can be projecting anyone to the nfl, ya can’t even project free agents to the bucs (beau Allen, Vinny Curry) who everyone wanted by the way
March 5th, 2019 at 10:22 am
He’s a known quantity. Rookies and outside FAs aren’t. Will they mesh?? Who knows.
Kwons leg looks good. Can see him working out on Instagram. He’s not ready to play right now, but he’s got almost 6mos….and if he can be had for cheaper than Mosley??? Done and done.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:25 am
@AwShbucs,
I agree about the 2 edge rushers, but there’s also Nelson and Oliver. They will be hard to pass up, even though I agree LB may be a bigger need. However, I’d be okay going either way, as long as the player we get is elite. At the end of the day, that’s all that matters. We don’t have enough elite players, so we need to get some, no matter the position. I’d rather move up to 3 and get Bosa or Allen, but there’s no way Licht is doing that. Much more likely he trades down.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:27 am
the way things turned out, Rapport was right about Dirk & Jameis
March 5th, 2019 at 10:35 am
813bucboi
D-line is for sure a huge need. So is finding a true number 1 corner. But the beautiful thing about this draft is that its incredibly deep on defense.
I know you’re very high on Ed Oliver and he’s definitely a beast. I wouldn’t be mad at all if we drafted him. But we could very well get a player that’s incredibly similar to Ed Oliver in the 2nd round of this years draft in Dre’Mont Jones. Now Jones doesn’t have the same kind of dynamite in his punch that Oliver does, Jones is a technician with his hand work and has exceptional get off and quickness for a 6’3 300 pounder. And he has more than enough strength to hold his own and make plays in the run game.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JfAatASYhIs
He didn’t do very much in his freshman and SO season but he broke out in 2018 with 43 tackles, 13 TFLs, 8 sacks, 1 pick 6, 1 FF, 3 fumble recoveries and 2 TD’s. We could maybe pick him in round 2 and Still get Devin White.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:57 am
We’ve only seen Kwon in Lovies sit back and look defense and Smiths Shiz show. Maybe this “ aggressive “ scheme that Bowles is bringing in will fit him. Now I’m not saying Kwon is a better option than Devin white , he looks like the real deal but Kwon is a leader and has made the best out of the retarted defense he was told to run. He deserves a 2-3 yr deal in all seriousness. 90 + tackles every year is no sweat for a 4th round pick that wasn’t even starting when he got here. Resign Kwon and give em rashan gary , Ed Oliver or Montez sweat. Versatile players that can play both 4-3 and 3-4.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:58 am
Here are more examples of the dumbest fan base in sports.
You guys would let go of Kwon and donavan so we could land better players in free agency. Lol we sucked last year nobody is highly desiring Tampa. A rookie will not be as good as them next season.
Man u guys are dumb. Those are average players at the least with the potential to be very very good.
LMAO. Keep hating on a player that led the league in tackles.
Dumbest fans in sports.
March 5th, 2019 at 11:08 am
“Kobe will be the first to say that Ed Oliver is a problem child
dont draft this entitled immature BSer
making a huge mistake”
Kobe Faker
March 5th, 2019 at 11:11 am
Awww.. who are we gonna have to flex their muscles and act all macho after every tackle? Even when we’re down 0-30.. Or call Warren Sapp a “mf” on instagram??
March 5th, 2019 at 11:12 am
awshbucs
i hear you…white is nice but up until last year we had a fairly solid LB core with LVD, kwon & beckwith…..none were drafted in the first round….
imo, kwon playing out of position combined with smitty trash defensive scheme and beckwiths injury screwed things up…..at one point LB and WR were considered the “strength of the team”…..no need to panic or go away from the plan which should be building the trenches…..
imo, a 1st round DL is more valuable than a 1st round LB……just like d.jones, players like vosean joseph and tre lamar could be highly productive in place of DW…..look at joseph’s film vs LSU the past 3 years….the kid highs around like crazy…lamar has good film too….both can be had in the 4th round imo….
i like Ed Oliver because of his skill set and versatility….he could play DT or DE in bowles system….we need someone who will be able to compliment VV along the dline….i think adding EO would help out the dline and LBs where adding white would just help out the LBs…..
with that said, i wouldnt be mad if we got him in a trade down but #5 is too high imo….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
March 5th, 2019 at 11:21 am
813 wont be the last to say kobe faker was abused as a child by @realist…….
dont read his entitled immature BS!!!!!
it’ll only make you feel sorry for his parents!!!!!!
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
#KOBEFAKERKNOWSLESS!!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
March 5th, 2019 at 11:24 am
polkfan
i agree….
kwon did make a pro bowl….aint like he’s never produced…..folks act like he’s the LB version of will gholston….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
March 5th, 2019 at 11:25 am
1st off, Luke Kuechly is the best LB in the league and he makes $12mil a year. Whoever said Mosley will get $15mil a year is crazy.
2nd, signing Kwon or a FA MLB doesnt take Devin White out of the equation at 5, at least it shouldnt.
March 5th, 2019 at 11:37 am
“813, I stay far far away from Sebring (Realist home town)
Mark Kobes words, Oliver is trouble”
Kobe Faker
March 5th, 2019 at 11:39 am
Long-term deals in football means absolutely nothing, football contracts are an illusion. The guaranteed money that they’re offering him is what I’d be interested in knowing.
I’d take a contract with 2yr/20 mil contract with 20 mil guaranteed any day of the week over a 5yr/55 mil contract with 7 mil guaranteed.
March 5th, 2019 at 11:42 am
813
A dominant field general at MLB can improve an entire defense. I hope that Q William’s or Josh Allen falls to us at 5. I’d be stoked and take either one of them.
But I’m not 100 percent convinced that Ed Oliver will have more of an impact than D White. Just my opinion though.
Also am I the only one who saw that 6’2 corner by the name of Greedy William’s run a 4.37? Tempting stuff right there. Maybe we could get a kings ransom from Miami and pick him a #13. He would easily become the best cover corner we have. Just needs to bulk up a bit and work on his tackling…
March 5th, 2019 at 11:51 am
awshbuc
i respect your opinion….i guess we can agree to disagree….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
March 5th, 2019 at 12:05 pm
Can we stop talking about Acl tears like it’s the 70s slot of the times players come back stronger than before the Acl tear can we name 5 recent players who career was over after a Acl tear
It’s career over vs. career never being the same, or needing an full year to get back to normal (if they get back to normal). –Joe
March 5th, 2019 at 1:03 pm
And he was injured with a hamstring in 2017, missing four games and needing a few games to be effective again. Kwon also had a four-game drug suspension in 2015. And then there’s the matter of the Bucs defense being awful for the last two seasons.
Is he really worth a big contract?
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The same argument can be said about Jameis.
And he was injured with a shoulder in 2017, missing three games and needing a few games to be effective again. Jameis also had a three-game personal conduct suspension in 2018. And then there’s the matter of the Bucs being awful for the last two seasons.
Is he really worth a big contract?
I was just pointing out the irony in this statement. Whaaaat? Jameis never missed most of a season with a major knee injury that required surgery and a roughly 10-month rehab. –Joe
March 5th, 2019 at 1:19 pm
@ Waterboy: when I played in the WFL, I had a multi-year million dollar contract.
…..
A dollar a year for a million years. 😉
March 5th, 2019 at 1:28 pm
“1st off, Luke Kuechly is the best LB in the league and he makes $12mil a year. Whoever said Mosley will get $15mil a year is crazy.”
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You really need a lesson in NFL economics. Kuechly signed his deal 4 years ago! The market goes up, it doesn’t stay the same.
March 5th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
“Kwon also had a four-game drug suspension in 2015.”
Actually no, he did not. It was over a Red Bull during camp, because Red Bull is a banned performance enhancing drink. So please don’t claim it was drugs.
March 5th, 2019 at 2:22 pm
Waterboy Says
“Long-term deals in football means absolutely nothing, football contracts are an illusion.”
Not really. Players sign the contracts for long term deals which they know can be shortened by the team. In return, the players get a signing bonus and guarantees.
It;s a fair deal, until the players takes his money and decides he wants more before the team gets their share of the contract.
March 5th, 2019 at 2:25 pm
StoutGospel Says:
Here is YET ANOTHER fine example of Slapaport being Slapaport….
On Dee Ford just now….
(Courtesy of Rotoworld–make sure to read their take on it)
NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport speculated it might only take a second-round pick to acquire franchise-tagged OLB Dee Ford.
“Maybe someone would throw them a, say, second-round pick,” Rapoport said. “It doesn’t need to be two ones. A second-round pick, perhaps.”
What he meant there was that instead of two ones, a team might be offer a one and a two.
March 5th, 2019 at 2:26 pm
Franchise Humphries, because he is healthy AND productive.
March 5th, 2019 at 2:45 pm
@Hawaiian
Signed 4 yrs ago and is still the highest paid MLB in the league. $15mil is top pass rusher money, and he isnt a pass rusher lol
March 5th, 2019 at 2:45 pm
Yeah let’s pay Hump 16 million guys. Even though he’s never had a 1000 receiving yards season. I mean he did catch 5 Touchdowns last year, that’s worth 16 million right?
C’mon Bonzai you cant be serious.
March 5th, 2019 at 2:49 pm
*almost top pass rusher money lol
March 5th, 2019 at 4:29 pm
@Jean…
WHATTT?!? Good lord. That was kinda close to @Bonzai territory there.
Go Bucs! Land Quinnen!
March 5th, 2019 at 4:44 pm
Kwon Alexander is a known asset.
His work ethic, passion for the game and ability to inspire others around him are valuable intangibles that can’t be ignored
There’s zero concern this guy will be a player who “coasts” in any way shape or form once he gets a nice payday under his belt.
Kwon is already established as an emotional leader on this team. Every player on that 2018 defense was emotionally effected in a negative way when Kwon went down with the serious knee injury in game 6 last year…
You make him a fair “substantial” offer of say $27M over 4 years with half guaranteed over 2 years – and let the chips fall where they may. Kwon is going to test free agency – that’s likely a foregone conclusion.
Bucs are doing what they can to let Kwon know they really want him back and aren’t scared by his serious injury – that if he wants to test free agency – fair enough – but to please give them right of first refusal if he were to receive a legit offer that happened to be more than what the Bucs put on the table as their best offer….
March 5th, 2019 at 10:43 pm
Joe you write all these reasons you have concerns , uhm look at your winston history. It has missed time in 3 years ( 2 injury , 1 suspension). Yet you now down to his presence and attack anyone that goes against your Stud.
March 5th, 2019 at 10:44 pm
And how much would White cost at #5? SORRY, MOVE ON!
March 5th, 2019 at 11:17 pm
kwon’s most consistent quality is actually his inconsistency…he barely shows out some games while others he’s straight beasting…
kwon’s “all flare but doesn’t care” — that’s the case if the bucs have a generous offer on the table and he’s willing to test free agency…
no loyalty from kwon = no loyalty from the bucs…let him walk and watch this system player fade into the abyss elsewhere…
you had to feel bad for him after the injury with no contract…but since he was disloyal we all can be too…including the bucs…peace him out now, he’s simply not that good…
we need more cerebral guys anyway…he barely can speak the english language…have you ever heard him talk…he sounds semi illiterate most of the time…
all players with red hair can go…
all sideline moonwalkers can gtfoh…
let’s get some mofos in here that are frothing at the mouth like pit bulls…like sapp and lynch
March 6th, 2019 at 2:59 am
Bonzai,
Red Bull is not on the banned substance list. I understand completely that players, not just kwon, will claim they tested positive because of an energy drink or otc supplement that is carried at gnc. The NFL can not disclose the test results or refute a player’s statement on the matter. This leads fans at home believing a red bull is the source of the ped. Or any other number of totally nonsensical explanations.