Being Physical
March 21st, 2019
Needs to tackle.
LSU cornerback Greedy Williams may look like Chris Rock but NFL people aren’t laughing at any one-liners about Williams’ allergy to tackling.
In Joe’s eyes, there was only one cornerback who could get away with being softer than Rachel Watson’s bosom when it comes to tackling, and that was Deion Sanders, one of the greatest corners who ever played.
Greedy Williams’ ain’t Deion. Not yet.
So last month at the NFL combine in downtown Indianapolis, Williams was asked about his tackling, or lack thereof. He was a man about it and confessed that is his biggest weakness and that he needs to overcome this nasty habit to be an elite NFL corner.
“That’s something I can improve, definitely going to improve on it,” Williams said. “Ready to get back on the field and get started working on it.
“Definitely, I’ve got to step that up and get that right and get the right technique.’’
Well, the first thing a man has to do to correct a problem is to admit it. Williams did just that.
Should the Bucs draft Williams at No. 5? Of course not, even though one could argue that’s the biggest hole on the defense.
Why would Joe prefer an edge rusher over Williams? Well, the most important player on a defense in the 21st century NFL is a guy who can hunt the passer. Williams may get to blitz once in a while but would you send Williams at a quarterback if he already has problems tackling anyone?
Besides, a good pass rush can cover for a subpar secondary. The Bucs, under former commander Greg Schiano, tried to build from the back and even had a Hall of Fame corner on the field. That didn’t work out so well, but Joe has to admit Schiano’s defense looks like the Steel Curtain compared to what Bucs fans have been assaulted with the past five years.
Joe would much prefer an edge rusher over a cornerback at No. 5, but Joe won’t have a mental breakdown the way he will have if the Bucs get stupid and draft an inside linebacker at No. 5.
March 21st, 2019 at 5:31 am
Another Brent Grimes??
No thanks!!!
Only hard hitting corners from now on!!
Like The Ravens and Patriots!
March 21st, 2019 at 5:56 am
It would just hurt my head a little too much to watch another LSU DB go out and be a star In the league . Just going back to Donte Jackson’s scouting
Report it states “ Ankle-biter as tackler who can get trucked if he tackles too high “. He came away with 4 picks and 74 tackles. These LSU dbs are not to pass on !!!
March 21st, 2019 at 6:11 am
Joe, I agree that we need an elite pass rusher if one is available at 5. That being said, you’re going to have a lot of egg on your face if White becomes the next Brooks or Urlacher. A linebacker on that level is worthy of a number 1 overall pick. If White becomes a transcendent player for any team, everyone will be able to quote you as the guy that didn’t want him.
March 21st, 2019 at 6:19 am
Thank m digging reading about all the teams positioning for a QB right now. I’m cheering for two trades prior to our pick. Then, most certainly, even WE can’t fu(k up that pick!
Unless we draft Greedy Williams at #5.
Then, shoot me.
March 21st, 2019 at 6:20 am
Both “Thank m” but “I’m digging”
March 21st, 2019 at 6:21 am
Trading down and hoping for White, Oliver or Burns is a good strategy if Williams, Bosa and Allen are gone at 5. If OL run hasn’t started, then trading down twice in first round and looking for Taylor, Ford or maybe Risnor is good as well if they are picking up multiple second rounders plus some later round picks in the process.
March 21st, 2019 at 6:22 am
Jeez…not “Both” but “Not”…
My fat fingers need to go on a diet.
March 21st, 2019 at 6:26 am
I love me some Greedy but personally would prioritize the O-line above everyone not named Q Williams or Josh Allen, Chiefs proved that you can make it far on offense only inspite of giving up huge yardage on D.
March 21st, 2019 at 6:48 am
I was on greedy train for a while but not so much anymore. They are saying this is weakest cornerback draft in a long time.
He is not worth top 10 even. Projected In teens.
Bucs are in good spot to get elite player in front 7 . Front 7 has to get after QB. (Although they will run 3/4 and 4-3 as well).
Some one who can contribute right away.
March 21st, 2019 at 6:56 am
We need a 4.4 inside linebacker like White we can’t pass him up he is 6-1, 240 and cover the entire field and a man beast.
March 21st, 2019 at 6:56 am
I am becoming more & more convinced that Devin White will be our pick if we don’t trade down and one of the big three aren’t on the board.
The trade down scenarios are still there as they are for some teams above us.
If two QBs are taken in front of us, one of the big three will be there.
Joe’s assumption that because BA likes Nassib, we will pick a DT @ 5 is laughable…..it could be a signal that we are picking a MLB…..or no signal at all.
He likes GMC also.
March 21st, 2019 at 7:29 am
Diamond in the rough would be nice licht, if it’s the deepest d line in a decade then should be no problem finding a pass rusher with another pick. You don’t pass on a transcendent player because he isn’t a pass rusher. BPA at 5 regardless of position is where I’m at even over trading down if Q Williams or Allen are there but white won’t get past the bengals
March 21st, 2019 at 7:31 am
If he didn’t like contact in college…he certainly won’t like contact with men with bad intentions in the NFL
March 21st, 2019 at 7:47 am
Lucky for us the top 5 draft prospects are all DL, so with potentially 2 offensive players being drafted in the top 5, we should definitely get one of those 5 if not one of the top 3.
March 21st, 2019 at 7:48 am
I can not for the life of me understand how joe is so opposed to drafting white..if Allen or Williams is there I understand taking one of them but you do not pass on white simply for the fact of position he plays..he is a weapon , big , fast , good leader and can absolutely play football…I just would like to trade and pick up extra and still get him at say 9 because I want extra picks but if we have to get him at 5 then the middle of our defense is solid for a long time..
March 21st, 2019 at 7:51 am
In two years, maybe next year, when JPP is gone, if the Bucs draft this White, the team will already be crying about no edge rush. Book it.
Do we really have that short of memories what the past 10 years has been like? Do people really have their heads buried in the sand that deeply not to realize how vitally important a pass rush is?
Good grief even with the Bucs having one of the best linebackers in the NFL, one of the best linebackers in Bucs history Lavonte David, the defense has stunk. Why? No pass rush. Hello? Is anyone home? McFly? Hello? HELLO?
March 21st, 2019 at 7:55 am
Joe has been as clear as he can be on this.
March 21st, 2019 at 7:57 am
6 2 guys that run 4.3 are rare. When you play against elite receivers like Julio and Michael Thomas you need them. To either guard Jones and Thomas, or to take away the other teams #2 receiver, so you can double Julio or Thomas, with the other DBs. PrimeTime wasnt the most physical guy but he went to multiple superbowls playing a key role.
The big problem with these edge rushers is that they are only speed. Chip them with a back, and they are useless. And they won’t even be starters, a corner, or a RG would start.
But we will probably take a linebacker at 5, because we are stupid.
March 21st, 2019 at 7:59 am
As I recall HOFer Deion Sanders would not tackle either. Not a commercial for Greedy Williams, but simply making an observation.
March 21st, 2019 at 8:10 am
Jonzey–this Devin White?
https://twitter.com/devywarehouse/status/947937446179868674?lang=en
I’ll pass. What good is a 4.4 LB when his ass is buried in the turf?
This White is way overrated . Too many guys drinking the kool-aid on him.
March 21st, 2019 at 8:15 am
Jonzey, this Devin White:?
https://twitter.com/devywarehouse/status/947937446179868674?lang=en
What good is a 4.4 LB if his ass is buried in the turf?
White is way overrated. Too many drinking the kool-aid on him.
March 21st, 2019 at 8:29 am
Gonna go out on a limb here……I’m thinking Joe really wants a end rushing guy at the #5 pick. Just a wild guess and shooting from the hip here. =)
While I don’t disagree, I think we need to be smart here with the # 5 pick. We need that immediate impact player on defense, who ever is bpa at the #5 instead of trading back and missing out and getting second best, we need help now not development.
Man it seems like the draft is taking for ever to get here, GO BUCS !!!!!
March 21st, 2019 at 8:32 am
If the options are taking the LB at #5….or trading down to draft a CB, you take the LB. Licht actually has some success with finding LBs…He’s had ZERO success at finding secondary players. I don’t trust his scouting process on much but Licht has had success with WRs, TEs and LBs….Probably a good idea to stick with LBs since we are good at WR/TE. We HAVE to walk away with a 10 yr starter with a #5 pick….The LB fits that mold and Licht has a high success rate drafting them. DEs are tough to project and we’ve simply blown too many draft picks to miss again.
March 21st, 2019 at 8:42 am
Nick Bosa – Edge
Quinnen Williams – DL
Josh Allen – Edge
Ed Olilver – DL
Montez Sweat – Edge
Top 5 prospects there. We will have our pick of at least 3.
March 21st, 2019 at 9:01 am
Joe keeps lobbying for an edge rusher, wich never hurts. but you wrote 2 articles, one saying that middle linebacker does not have a game changing effect on opposing offenses (You won’t find a quote that actually says that.–Joe)(I don’t mean to bash you, but that was the most ignorant thing I’ve read on your website all time)compared to an edge rusher. A couple of days later, either you or ira wrote about the importance of middle linebacker, with supporting stats from other teams that have drafted MLB in the first That have made game changing difference year 1.
My point being, we drafted DT last year, so it would be dumb to double down in that position. We addressed the edge rush last year with JPP and Nassib.(both produced very well) and at this point there is a glaring whole at MLB. It would be irresponsible to continue to build on the D line with this 5th overall pick under the circumstances,(not that D line won’t need to be addressed in the near future)being that Bruce isn’t trying to rebuild this team, and MLB is a position that needs to be addressed NOW.
March 21st, 2019 at 9:12 am
Cleveland took Smith last year and look at what he did we need to get White
March 21st, 2019 at 9:13 am
Smith and White are the same type player, just White is bigger and faster
March 21st, 2019 at 9:22 am
no DB or LB in the 1st round….gotta get GMC’s replacement R1…..Q. Williams or trade down and draft Ed Oliver…..hell, i’d take sweat over white…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
March 21st, 2019 at 9:51 am
Cannot believe how many Bucs fans want White, a MLB, with the 5th overall pick. Thats insanity.
March 21st, 2019 at 9:53 am
Bosa, Quinnen, Allen, Oliver, Sweat. Any of them.
March 21st, 2019 at 9:56 am
teacherman777
“Another Brent Grimes??
No thanks!!!”
Far from it. Williams is 6’3″ 185 lbs. and plays on the line compared to Grimes 5’10” 180 lbs. 15-yard cushion. And Bowles, long time secondary coach, has said he likes to work with bigger CB than smaller ones. With that said I’d love to see him turn Davis and Williams into a nasty #1 and #2 duo.
March 21st, 2019 at 10:16 am
White:
Weaknesses
-Instincts are very average
-Can be fooled by key fakes and misdirection
-Coaxed out of position two different times by the same run play versus Alabama
-Diagnosis can run behind
-Too many false steps in initial movement
-Gets caught behind climbing linemen and doesn’t always fight to disengage
-Not a natural knee-bender in space
-Running backs consistently finish under his pads
-Take-on technique needs plenty of work
-Uses shoulder challenges with hands as an afterthought
-Misses tackles when footwork and scrape balance get too loose
-Hard flows to sideline lack leverage and patience
-Relatively unchallenged as a coverage option
March 21st, 2019 at 10:23 am
They said the same thing about Deon Sanders & we all know how that turned out for ALT / SF / DAL… Prime Time was the best cover corner in the game for ~ a decade.
Greedy may not turn out to be as dominate as 21…But he has all the tools to be a dominate force in Bowles man-press system.
March 21st, 2019 at 10:40 am
There must be hell at JoeBucs HQ. While the Sage is writing articles saying why not LB this Joe is totally against it. Don’t hurt the old guy Steve.
I have Greedy outside my top ten list
March 21st, 2019 at 12:11 pm
No interest whatsoever.
If you are not interested in tackling and being physical,
………… not the time of day for you.
March 21st, 2019 at 6:01 pm
Is anyone else’s phone stuck on the Fitzpatrick to Miami story page. The site hasn’t shown a new article for 3 days. Someone mentioned on that thread you can get to newer articles by hitting the next article tab at the top, so I know it’s not just my phone.
March 22nd, 2019 at 1:07 pm
No thanks!