Beau Allen Agrees To Salary Slash & Roster Spot
March 14th, 2019
UPDATED 8:55 a.m. – The Bucs are chasing salary cap nickels and they got serious about it yesterday, doing exactly what they should have done to Doug Martin in March 2017 — used their leverage to cut his pay before they foolishly allowed him to return at full salary after a 2.9-yards-per-carry season and a three game drug suspension.
Perhaps Jason Licht is evolving.
Tom Pelissero of NFL Network is reporting this morning that Bucs defensive tackle Beau Allen agreed to shave $1 million off the $5 million due him in exchange for a roster spot guaranteed.
That means he’s at no risk of getting cut as an August salary cap casualty. And it’s a safe bet that idea wasn’t Allen’s.
Smart move by Allen, and Smart move by Licht, who obviously overpaid for Allen last year. Speaking of overpaying, anyone see Vinny Curry with a new team yet?
UPDATE: Pelissero went deeper into the terms of Allen’s renegotiation via the Tweet below. He can score his lost money back via incentives, and hit the market as a free agent next year.
A little more on Beau Allen: The $4M is fully guaranteed and he can earn $1M in incentives to get back to his original number. And the last year of his deal was deleted, meaning he'll have a chance to hit the market next March. https://t.co/25Lz5NR26S
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 14, 2019
March 14th, 2019 at 8:49 am
Vinny Curry will get offered half what we paid
March 14th, 2019 at 8:52 am
Over/under of negative articles on this site today : 5
Over/under of positive articles on this site today : 1
March 14th, 2019 at 9:04 am
Pretty good move. Looking at our DL on our roster we are paying our depth DL around 3.75 million so we are offering slightly above that. I think if healthy he will be able to contribute to our new multiple-front schemes. I just hope Bowles can turn this defense around that is the area we need to improve the most. Even if Bowles has us middle of the pack that would be a massive improvement…..
March 14th, 2019 at 9:10 am
***See this guy’s long take on “Bucs’ Front Office Hammered”. All the same topic.
Go Bucs! Land Quinnen!
March 14th, 2019 at 9:12 am
Bucs are in the mess because of GM Licht and the owners are expecting him to get them out of this mess. SMH. Licht has proven time and time again he is incompetent on so many levels yet gets another year cuz he somehow lured BA here. Makes one wish for the days of Dominik. At least he didn’t leave the team in cap hell.
March 14th, 2019 at 9:16 am
I am sure I am in the minority, but I like what the Bucs are doing(even if it is because of necessity). I think the so called “winners” of free agency are doing a poor job of building their rosters.
The Bucs have fallen into the same trap before by chasing high priced free agents.
The more prudent approach is to follow the Patriots lead in free agency. Over the years they generally target bargains with an occasional splash free agent and then build through the draft.
March 14th, 2019 at 9:18 am
WOW! S1 mil toward the cap hell. Thanks almighty Licht. Give yourself a raise. Idiot.
March 14th, 2019 at 9:25 am
These things all they do is confirm how bad decisions are made in one buc place….this Is so evident!!!!
March 14th, 2019 at 9:26 am
Curry was better than Allen. I cant believe Allen was not cut. Another terrible move by Licht.
March 14th, 2019 at 9:31 am
The emperors Clothing at one buc
They really think they are close to being a playoff team.
5-11 but I am leaning towards 4-12
March 14th, 2019 at 9:35 am
Just another chip that fall in the ” licht did his job” from last year crowd!!!!!!! When will joe and the sheep hold the “real” culprit “ACCOUNTABLE”???????????
2019 season will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 14th, 2019 at 9:40 am
Everyone worried about our cap hell and our GM..I look at it as let’s see what BA and his crew can do for 2 years with the bunch that has us in cap hell…if they don’t cut the mustard then we blow this thing all the way up ! From top on down ! Start completely over from scratch..new GM , COACH , QB and all ! Let’s hope the Clemson kid does not go pro after this season because if we have to blow it up in 2 years we miss out on tua but just may be able to land the Clemson kid.i tell ya , I would love to have a GM to come in knowing exactly how to build a contender just the same exact way John Dorsey is doing with the browns..I’m a bucs fan living in Northeast Ohio and the day they got Dorsey I told all my work buddies that the browns will win the division in 2 years ! When they drafted Baker , all my buddies went wtf after he was taken with the first pic..I told them to all settle down because they need a QB and he’s the best in that draft because I can see he has everything you need in a QB to be great at the next level and John knows how to build a team for sure !…he is also not affraid of what people say about certain players that have a past as long as he feels they will be a good teammate and learned something from thier problems they had..we NEED A GUY LIKE THAT ! running the show I will always back my buccaneers but we have alot of soul searching to do !..GO BUCS
March 14th, 2019 at 9:41 am
Good move by the bucs? He’s nothing more than a role player coming from a SB winner which the bucs made look like a star last off season. Same as jobless curry. He’s not worth his 4 mil either but the bucs got no cap to replace him with someone who can actually make a difference.
March 14th, 2019 at 9:43 am
I also like what the Bucs are doing……because I really have no other choice…..we have no money….so, the $1mil from Allen helps us bring in a depth player…..we need every penny.
Allen loves Tampa and wants to be here so that helps. I suspect he is pretty good in the locker room…..GMC restructure next……
Some of these players could very well be upgrades from last year’s roster.
Look at the lack of production from Djax…..Perriman could at least equal that.
I actually think Minter is an upgrade from Taylor…..and our punter acquisition looks very good and is cheaper than Anger….& he kicks off making up for a Santos weakness.
I think Ellington is an upgrade from Rodgers….
So….stay the course…
March 14th, 2019 at 9:44 am
But….is he worth 4 mil? Couldnt we have replaced him for 2? or with a draft pick? Im pretty sure an undrafted free agent could fall into 20 tackles in 14 games.
March 14th, 2019 at 9:44 am
@joestang agreed. Could have replaced him with a bag of rice
March 14th, 2019 at 9:46 am
No No, I’m definitely not Jason Licht…lol…I would like his pay grade though.
March 14th, 2019 at 9:55 am
Still need to cut or trade Brate or McCoy to even get enough cap space to sign draft picks. Bucs will need minimum of $9mil for the draft.
March 14th, 2019 at 10:09 am
pelbuc Says:
“Bucs are in the mess because of GM Licht…”
Sometimes you have to set aside your bias to see the truth. In a way, you are right. Licht got us into this situation…by drafting well enough to need to resign good players. By exercising a 5th year option on a QB who is the best QB the Bucs have ever had (look it up) instead of committing more money in a long term deal.
By not restructuring GMC yet because we might draft his replacement.
By structuring free agent contracts so they can be cut any year after the first year.
joestang Says:
“Curry was better than Allen. I cant believe Allen was not cut. Another terrible move by Licht.”
Sometimes you have to set aside your bias to see the truth. Curry made a lot more money, and even if he restructured to save a million, he would have been paid starting money to be a backup to Nassib.
March 14th, 2019 at 10:12 am
CC Head, draft pick money is already figured in.
March 14th, 2019 at 10:13 am
The Bucs do not have to fit under the cap until September. They can sign anyone and trim fat later.
March 14th, 2019 at 10:14 am
Jason likes this guy passion and play I guess. 4 mil guarantee still overpay for role player but he agree to take cut so that’s good I hope other players do the same and put team first. Big time players (QB) do that , they let team move around the money in paper but they still get there money’s. I can’t remember besides Allen who else has taken a cut previous years.
March 14th, 2019 at 10:14 am
see let’s look at this honestly
glazers can’t find coaches, front office personnel or players to turn this minor league franchise around…..
glazers can’t manage the cap
glazers can’t fill the stadium with local fans. only out of towners and opponents fans.
glazers let cancer93 dictate the toughness of roster
glazers let the underachieving has-beens have to big of an opinion. they won 5 pathetic playoff games 3 in one year hardly a group that knows how to win but low-standard fans need low-standard legends I guess.
you people buying into this circus are going to get nutpunched again
March 14th, 2019 at 10:15 am
Allen was solid when he played. Not a sack master, but solid. Good depth.
March 14th, 2019 at 10:17 am
Adrnagy Says:
“4 mil guarantee still overpay…”
Not really. When you figure in the market for starters and what second string DTs are getting, it’s about the norm for a veteran.
March 14th, 2019 at 10:22 am
@Wausau BINGO!!!
Also agree with TBBF’ post.
March 14th, 2019 at 11:36 am
They are selling roster spot guarantees? I remember the old days when good play did that. Even outsiders see how much of a joke this team is. Hard to believe we have fallen so far since Gruden.
March 14th, 2019 at 11:49 am
You guys seem pretty down on Jason Licht this year.
March 14th, 2019 at 1:09 pm
I didn’t know we had so many cap-ologists on this site! Perhaps some of you missed your calling.
Until ownership changes its philosophy or changes hands, expect to see more of the same in terms of accounting.
Sounds like Allen really wants to be here, or realized that he would not get better than $4 million on the open market.
A team is defined by its leadership. Leadership starts at the top, that is the ownership.
March 14th, 2019 at 1:31 pm
$1M saved is $1M earned…..
I figured they would cut Allen – but apparently the new coaches believe they can get more out of him – so they are keeping Beau at a 20% discount.
March 14th, 2019 at 1:58 pm
This guy is a depth signing. This comment section is proof y’all are just whining just to whine.
I know this because each and everyone of y’all will be crying if we release them and then had to rely on depth that wasn’t up to par.
March 14th, 2019 at 2:11 pm
Wausa
Don’t think you can argue with what Brownies have done….
March 14th, 2019 at 2:17 pm
I’m not understanding why we haven’t restructured anyone but Allen. Why not Gmc or Evans ? My question is, wonder if Licht even attempted ? I see other players doing it, most recently D. Breed. Just a thought, but I definitely agree with not over paying for free agents.
March 14th, 2019 at 2:58 pm
Agree with Bonzai … “Allen was solid when he played. Not a sack master, but solid. Good depth”. He didn’t get as many snaps as I thought he would on the year as a key rotational DT, BUT in his defense he was out for a couple games early in the season with a foot injury & questionable for a couple others (which probably impacted his availability?).
I’m glad we re-signed him, although his restructured contract may not save us anything in the end (depends what the ‘incentives’ are). Personally I’d make EVERY contract incentive-based (the more you produce, the more $$$ you make … duh), although I’m sure the player agents would have a fit.
March 14th, 2019 at 3:06 pm
DanBucsFan … I’m not sure I understand this ‘restructuring thingie’ but it would seem that guaranteeing MORE of the player’s salary commits you to him for a longer period (unless you’re just willing to ‘eat the loss’ if he craps the bed early-on). I suspect that’s a primary reason why Licht has structured most contracts the way he has … the Bucs are basically just ‘renting’ FA signees for 1-2 years max. It seems to me that the good news is that IF the FA signee doesn’t do well, you can exit the contract relatively painlessly after 1-2 years. The bad news is that you can end up in salary Cap hell with a whole bunch of FA contracts structured like that (instead of spreading the money out over say 3-4 years BUT being stuck with the guy if he stinks it up OR taking a financial hit).
That’s just my take on it though Dan, and I’d be interested to hear what others & Joe think of Jason’s contract-writing ‘technique’.
March 14th, 2019 at 6:11 pm
JimmyJack – Right, he is clearly a depth signing at $4m, because that’s clearly backup money. Just like Chris Baker getting $5m was borderline backup money, which is why he wasn’t a bust. In fact I’d say the $5 that Allen got last year was a much bigger heist than Baker was.
March 14th, 2019 at 6:37 pm
BUILD THROUGH THE DRAFT ??? Y’all Act like Licht has not had any draft picks the past five years! We’ve been building through the draft for 40 F in years!! You can only build to the draft if you draft good players ! If Light could build a roster through the draft We would still not need a running back or a kicker after spending second round picks on them .