Father Dungy Compares Jameis Winston To Peyton Manning
February 23rd, 2019
A sage NFL voice thinks Peyton Manning when he sees the Buccaneers’ starting quarterback who is entering his fifth season — with a new and experienced head coach.
Interesting interview below from the folks at WTSP-TV, Channel 10, and Father Dungy.
Yes, Dungy looks at Jameis Winston and says he remembers arriving to coach the Colts after Manning had “four up and down seasons before I got there.”
Father Dungy said Manning felt he had to make too many plays to carry the team and that had to be coached out of him. It took time, Dungy said, as he went on to note Jameis is a great talent that will flourish when he realizes taking care of the ball is important. Bucco Bruce Arians will coach him well on that, Dungy said.
Dungy likes the accountability attributes he says Arians will bring to the Buccaneers, as well as the new head coach’s blend of old school and new school ways.
Is Jameis the next Peyton Manning when it comes to fifth-year quarterbacks? Joe certainly can’t go there. But Jameis does have a lot of room to improve and a strong talent base to build upon.
February 23rd, 2019 at 12:23 am
Yes, finally someone of credibility who see’s what many of us Buc fans see, a great talent who just needs to be rained in. I can’t wait to see what BA can get out of Jameis. Thank you Tony now let’s get America behind him and this team. Go Bucs
February 23rd, 2019 at 12:44 am
Dang that is so sad, Coach D’s got the oldtimers disease.
February 23rd, 2019 at 1:43 am
Imminent maxipad trigger.
It’s interesting how football minds can see Jameis’ talent and know what he is capable of but the “analysts” are ready to write him off. I think he’s been inconsistent but he has shown us periods of very good play with greatness mixed in. Like Dungy said, he just needs to do it week in and week out.
The 2019 season will reveal to the “real” fans that Realist has no idea what the heck he is talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
February 23rd, 2019 at 2:19 am
Half Payton Manning, half Steve McNair…
Thank goodness he’ll finally get to work with a coaching staff that understands how to use him and most importantly, truly believes in him… Jameis has been through his share of growing pains but I think this is the year he puts it all together…
February 23rd, 2019 at 2:26 am
This is a positive endorsement. Let’s all hope Tony has it right!
Go Bucs!!!
February 23rd, 2019 at 3:25 am
Dungy said what ?
February 23rd, 2019 at 6:14 am
Joe, that was a GRRREAT interview with Tony Dungy; a very POSITIVE message for Bucs’ fans. Thanks for including it. The central theme that jumped out at me was Tony saying “it’s a matter of consistency” and “you win by minimizing your mistakes” and “protect the football” (it’s all the same central theme IMO). And he’s soooo right on that. Coach Arians preaches a very similar message from all that I’ve read, with a focus on ACCOUNTABILITY.
Jameis isn’t Peyton Manning & he’s not Tom Brady or Drew Brees. He’s Jameis Winston (duh) & some folks need to stop with all the comparisons. Tony’s right IMO in that Jameis has the talent & skills, he just needs to mature as a leader & get a better grip on his role as the QB of the Bucs’ T-E-A-M. Coach Arians will help with that I’m convinced, but in the final analysis it’s still up to Jameis. I really hope that he recognizes this opportunity for what it is & takes full advantage of it. We desperately need that here in Bucsville.
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:24 am
Definitely some parallels here. Looking forward to an interesting season…
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:26 am
The Realist the only thing sad is that you are now attacking our QB cause you were DEAD WRONG about your buddy Mike Smith and our trying to destract everyone from that with you useless Jameis comments.
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:33 am
It was a completely different style of football 20 years ago! You cannot compare QBs across two decades.
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:39 am
I agree.
Jameis has all the talent and the arm to take that next step. It’s the mental that concerns me /the turnovers the obvious elephant in room. But the last 6 games last year was good to see.
Let’s hope arians can get The best out of him. We can’t continue to reward mediocrity and next year we are talking about 25 mil and it only goes higher from there …closer to 30 mil.
You better make sure your QB is the guy for that kinda scratch.
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:39 am
Defense Rules, Winston is like all of those guys. In 1st 4 years starting Peyton had way more interceptions(while having 2 HOF running backs), Brady fumbled more balls but both him & Winston lost 18 fumbles. Brady only had 6 less turnovers same amount if overall tds as Winston. Drew Brees threw tons of interceptions and had less tds then Winston and was benched twice for Flutie. The hate for Winston is so bad fans can’t see he is playing on par with HOF at the start of their careers. Those who had a defense like Brady & Big Ben won. Win is .700 19-8 when defense allows 24 or less points
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:39 am
If we can also bring Jameis to the point where he would be called to be the national spokesperson for Nationwide or another insurance company…..that would be good.
Now, perhaps we will only reap the benefits of on-field improvement and that would suffice for me.
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:42 am
Winston is the black Andrew Luck. Except Winston has higher career completion percentage and Luck has won more but their stats are similar along with styles of play.
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:49 am
Now or never for Jameis. No more clowning around off the field, and limit turnovers. That would be the key to success.
If Jameis doesn’t put it all together this year, then he should not be retained.
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:56 am
But “Coach” Dungy wouldn’t have the Jameis problem in the first place. https://www.blackpressusa.com/tony-dungy-wouldnt-draft-jameis-winston/
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:02 am
SteveK says
“Now or never for Jameis.
If Jameis doesn’t put it all together this year, then he should not be retained.”
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Even the most ardent JW supporters (like myself) would agree with you.
It’s time, Jameis.
Show them all what you can do.
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:04 am
Jaywill … I agree that Jameis is LIKE those three I mentioned in certain aspects, but my belief is that every QB is unique. The great ones do have certain traits in common IMO, and it’s easy enough to see what those are.
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:08 am
Jay will
Just stop dude. Let’s have Jameis with a winning record first. Or how bout win on the road first. He lost his last 10 or 12 on the road ?
And I know …none of those games were his fault.
He just needs an oline, defense , running back , kicker , new speed receiver that plays nice , healthy tight end , coaching. Yada yada yada.
Any QB in he NFL needs that. Trent dilfer sure did and look what happened there And He was below average.
I know Jameis got you a title at FSU but cmon man …you all take homer to a new level. Jameis is not entitled or above the law. He deserves blame just like everyone else. There is no more coolaid in the cooler. Time to step up. No more excuses.
Arians is the guy to do that
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:09 am
I don’t usually like to compare a lot to other QB’s,
however that being said, if I had to pick one who faced very similar circumstances as far as a ton of turnovers in his first 4 seasons, the gunslinger mentality, polarizing for the fanbase early in his career…
…. when he put it all together, he put it TOGETHER.
That would be Terry Bradshaw.
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:17 am
Jameis will always been as he has been….cut the BS about the surrounding cast and focus on when he has the ball in his hands ,the decisions he makes, the timing and placement of his passes. After 4 years his mechanics are a mess and that is not coaching because he has certainly been coached proper mechanics…..Jameis is as Jameis does
Dwayne Haskins @ 5 and let this franchise get serious about winning
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:28 am
If Jameis was a 4 year old losing stock in your portfolio….you’d take your loses and Move On . Bucs
Dwayne Haskins @ 5
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:37 am
Any comparison of Winston and Manning is totally and pitifully laughable.
Dungy, being the good man he is, is just taking the high road.
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:52 am
Oh wow….the REAL SHEEP AINT GONNA LIKE THAT!!!!!! LOL
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:53 am
Yep he has everything done the same as Manning except winning
But that is the defenses fault
I mean that is coaching
I mean that is the weather
Man we love us some Winston and GMC
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:54 am
News flash jameis won’t be as good as Manning
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:58 am
Bucsfire
I respect that. Kudos.
February 23rd, 2019 at 8:59 am
We all know if Winston doesn’t start winning this season he’s out the door along with the GM.
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:04 am
Man how long is The ATRAIN stuck in the Dog House
Come on Joe ATRAIN has said nothing that was that bad
I guess the key to the lockerroom comment got me put in the dog house for ever
Different opinions are not something to fear
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:14 am
Father Dungy speaks and the haters still do not believe anything positive said about our QB. When you hate NO one will change their minds.
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:15 am
Dungy gives fans hope even if Winston hasn’t …yet !.
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:29 am
Altered Ego still spewing nonsense after Joe wiped the floor with him. Move on little fella. You’re an idiot.
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:36 am
Comparing JayMiss to Peyton Manning is just wrong.
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:37 am
And they got Manning Edgerin James.
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:45 am
To be honest, I’m sick & tired of hearing about Boy Wonder Jameis. its time..Way past time for him to live up to his promise. If he cannot do this under Arians within a couple of years? its time for Mr. Winston to..Pack bags move on and fit himself into the average or mediorce category of QB’s. Enough..Poop or get off the pot Jameis. Your games are becoming re-runs of the SOS. Win Got…am-it!!!!
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:54 am
Jameis is a less accurate dumber version of Marino
February 23rd, 2019 at 10:05 am
Thank you for the shout, Bird, right back atcha & kudos. Go BUCS
February 23rd, 2019 at 10:21 am
I remember Dungy compared Mariota to Aaron Rodgers so this makes a ton of sense for me.
February 23rd, 2019 at 10:35 am
^ LOL Joseph, now that is funny.
Jameis is ALOT better than Mariota but unfortunately that is not saying much.
Believing JW will take that next step this year and be comparable to much better QB’s.
February 23rd, 2019 at 10:57 am
Considering the Bucs QB, the one that finished the season with a 8th ranked QBR, according to ESPN, is solely responsible for the Bucs horrific record over the past 4 years. This season, if the Bucs go 11-5, then logic dictates, it must be solely because of Winston. If one blames Winston solely for losses, then he must be solely credited for wins… Anyone see the failure to this logic?
February 23rd, 2019 at 10:58 am
Finally… an article without “America’s Quarterback ”
#puke #vomit
February 23rd, 2019 at 11:12 am
Agreed. We can all see it.
JW is trying too hard to make a TD out of every play.
Given that, this is the last year here for him if he does not improve.
February 23rd, 2019 at 11:56 am
Comparing Jameis to other QBs on other teams in completely different situations is a futile excercise. The fact is no other Buccaneer QB has ever been signed beyond a rookie contract. Jameis will very likely be the first. Jameis holds many franchise records already, and will surely add to those. Dungy would never have been fired if Jameis had been his QB. Shore up the OL and field even a mediocre D and the Bucs will be a contender with Jameis.
February 23rd, 2019 at 11:57 am
foles
February 23rd, 2019 at 12:13 pm
That was a good interview – both the questions and the answers. Thanks for posting this Joe – wouldn’t have seen it otherwise probably.
Tony D is the only coach in Buccaneer history that achieved turning a perpetual losing team – (13 straight years of losing) into a consistent winner.
So he obviously knows a little something about what its going to take for BA to get this “losing culture” mentality wiped away.
What’s encouraging is they are both basically preaching the same thing in interviews. Accountability! – and within that tough but loving environment comes Stability! Something the Bucs haven’t really had since the day coach Dungy was shown the door in early 2002….
Bruce Arians has brought his entire package to Tampa Bay – coaches, aggressive schemes, a proven system that works, a track record of turning NFL paupers into princes in short order… And that ever elusive quality of Accountability – within the framework of love and respect…
When your nickname is “Quarterback whisperer” – you’ve probably got at least a couple ideas about how to get the best out of an uber talented (yet still going through “growing pains”) QB like Jameis Winston…
I hereby declare that the long nightmare for Bucs fans of their favorite team mostly sucking during the last decade – is OVER!
I’m calling it right now.
This 2019 Buccaneers team will NOT have a losing season. 9-7 is the worst this team will finish. 11-5 and a guaranteed playoff spot is well within reach.
Talent will be added to what is already a fairly talented roster. Free agent role players will be brought in – ones that already know the coaches and systems and can help teach and lead their teammates on the field. (Hello Honey Badger!)
ALL the coaches are already “on the same page” when it comes to how they are expected to do their jobs – and what the structure and attitude/mentality in the building from the top down will be….
There’s no guesswork as to how any of this transition/implementation to – “The BA Way” – is going to go for anyone who has been brought in to make it happen.
The new coaching staff will literally hit the ground running as soon as the green light to get with players goes off…
Its going to be fun to watch it all unfold this spring, summer and fall.
Keep the faith Bucs fans!
It will soon become apparent that in keeping Jason Licht and by bringing in Bruce Arians and his entire desired staff – The Glazers have finally got this franchise on the right track – towards winning!
February 23rd, 2019 at 12:25 pm
Pick, exactly. And the ones who never have one positive thing to say about JW3 will be lining up to jump back on the bandwagon.
February 23rd, 2019 at 1:19 pm
To make this statement more clear here are both players stats in their first 4 years.
Manning
Comp%: 61
TDs: 111 TD% 5
Int: 81 Int 3.62
Winston
Comp% 62
TDs: 88 TD% 4.6
Int: 58 Int% 3.0
Jameis with a slightly higher Comp%
Manning with a slightly higher TD%
Jameis with a slightly lower Int %
So they are very very comparable it’s just ESPN put one on a pedestal and told everyone to hate the other one. It’s really as simple as that folks and the real problem is people cannot think or research for themselves. Stats don’t lie!!!!
Manning was looked at like a phenom his entire career yet Jameis, even by writers on this website (did Steve really even start to compare Jameis to that garbage Dak Prescott???) is treated like he’s trash. Just look at the facts folks look at the facts. Stop buying the spoiled milk ESPN and other clueless writers try to jam down your throat to meet their agenda.
February 23rd, 2019 at 1:36 pm
So Bird you say Jameis needs elite everything around him to win. See this is where you are wrong, yet again. How about just not having a bottom 5 defense, a bottom 5 running game and a bottom 5 kicking game. Let’s try that as I have asked the question many times, who has won under those circumstances and for some strange reason I have not received an answer to date. Maybe you should answer since you seem to think the QB should win games on his own?
February 23rd, 2019 at 1:41 pm
Please don’t compare Jameis to that cheerleader tbagging monster
February 23rd, 2019 at 2:06 pm
Ndog
Read my post. That’s what you all claim he needs to win . Where did elite come from?
There is always an excuse. Just stating what has been put on here before by the the messiah cult
February 23rd, 2019 at 2:19 pm
Ndog
One of the messiah cult compared him as the black Andrew luck.
You feel he is better then Jameis lick by a mile.
How bout comparing him to dereck Carr who Oakland is really considering replacing. You seem to like numbers.
Carr:
3270 21 td and 12 int 76 rating
3987 32 td and 13 int. 91 rating
3,937 28 td and 6 int. 96 rating.
3,486. 22 td and 13 Int. 86 rating
4,049. 19 td and 10 int. 94 rating
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Jameis:
4,042. 22 td and 15 int. 84 rating
4,090. 28 td and 18 int. 86 rating
3,504. 19 td and 11 int. 92 rating.
2,992. 19 td and 14 int. 90 rating.
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Each had one good year and both average talent both sides of ball
Except Jameis has almost as many ints with 1 less year. If you add in fumbles I’m sure Jameis has more with 1 less year.
February 23rd, 2019 at 2:52 pm
Old School Athlete Says:
February 23rd, 2019 at 12:25 pm
Pick, exactly. And the ones who never have one positive thing to say about JW3 will be lining up to jump back on the bandwagon.
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I’m on the Bucs bandwagon…not the Jamyth bandwagon…and #3 ain’t about to have an NFL QB epiphany …
February 23rd, 2019 at 3:43 pm
The difference between Manning and jameis thats a bit more realistic,IMO.
Manning had 300 more completions and 59 more passes completed over 20 yards in his four years. For whatever reason, Jameis passes over 20 yards have shown a downward trend since he entered the league.
One thing that had increased last year, better use of Mike Evans on deeper
passes. Better timing and ball placement has also improved to Evans. There have been
a lot less adjustments needed to haul in his passes for over 1500 yards and over 3.5 yards per catch improvements.
February 23rd, 2019 at 5:40 pm
So Bird I see you still didn’t answer my question. I wonder why? See this is what you guys do, you deflect to avoid the truth and that is Jameis is not a problem he actually is part of the solution. But you see your hatered blinds you from the truth and instead you blame him when he essentially has been trying to win games with one phase of a football team.
February 23rd, 2019 at 6:41 pm
Ndog…
Dwayne Haskins @ 5
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:04 pm
You have no clue.
He has been average my man. Read my posts. And I think arians will make him better I Don’t hate any buc. Well except Keyshawn.
Dude. And You didn’t answer my question.
All you do is make excuses. Over and over again. Bad game – not Jameis fault. Bucs win – it was all because of Jameis.
Jameis hits someone in stride and you act like a
Child “ oh I thought Jameis couldn’t hit someone in stride “
Jameis connects on 1 deep ball to deSean Jackson and you say like a child “ oh I thought Jameis couldn’t throw a deep ball “
Brady throws 2 ints. “ oh Jameis does the same thing. He must be garbage “
His play has been average and all we here is what a Great leader /elite
Yet McCoy play is average and you tell him to get the hell out of here.
Just calling out your hypocrisy.
If Jameis plays like a top 15 or top 10 QB, then Bucs have a winning record :maybe a layoffs. It trickles down from the most important player on the team. The rah rah doesn’t work as much with grown men. Winning does. No one questions Jameis heart and worh ethic.
People can criticize him. He deserves it with his Antics. Who doesn’t want him to succeed?
Just tired of all the excuses
February 23rd, 2019 at 7:06 pm
Every qb good or bad tries to win one phase of the game ?
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:26 pm
They are not called excuses they are called facts. Try using them every now and then. Oh that’s right you can’t as they prove you wrong time and time again.
February 23rd, 2019 at 9:48 pm
And for the record I am not one of the ones begging to get McCoy outta here BUT I get disgusted with his lack of effort and disappearing act late in games.
February 24th, 2019 at 6:24 am
Manning 32-32 in his first 4 years and 2 actual not alternate pro bowl selections and 2 playoff appearences. It was in his 5th year that Manning took off and had 13 years of winning records and playoffs every year.
February 24th, 2019 at 6:29 am
Winston 21-33 , 1 alternate pro bowl selection and no playoffs. Seems unlikely that Winston is about to take off on a 13 year run of winning and playoffs. We shall see.
February 24th, 2019 at 8:08 am
I’m sorry Pete but I didn’t know that Jameis played with 2 future HOF running backs in his first 4 years???? Oh that’s right he didn’t, he played with a drugged up Doug Martin, the great Charles Simms, the former unemployed Quiz Rodgers, the undrafted Peyton Barber, and never used Ronald Jones. Yeah you’re right that’s the same kinda threat as Marshall Faulk and Edgerin James. Apples to apples right??
February 24th, 2019 at 9:57 am
Bucs pick at 5…better grab a QB because Jamesi will be just good enough to F up next years draft slot…..Dwayne Haskins and Move On . Bucs
February 24th, 2019 at 1:16 pm
AlteredEgo it is time to find a new team my friend. Jameis isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. When he gets that second contract maybe finally you will see the light.
February 24th, 2019 at 5:33 pm
Ndog Says:
February 24th, 2019 at 1:16 pm
AlteredEgo it is time to find a new team my friend. Jameis isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
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naw…you are stuck with me….I hope somehow Jameis becomes the QB everyone hoped he would be….but it is full count ,2 outs bottom of the 9th for him in Tampa town
which is why we need to draft Dwayne Haskins @ 5…
February 24th, 2019 at 11:44 pm
Peyton Manning’s career would’ve finished closer to “bust” than a HOF’er had he continued to play for bad teams with bad coaches.
That is the dirty secret most fans don’t seem to grasp. For certain positions like Kicker or Punter it makes little difference what system or coach you play for, but for QB it matters tremendously. Winston is never going to be Brady, but he can be consistently one of the top tier QBs in the league.
Also important to remember, the Patriots won a SB with a QB who did virtually nothing in the SB game. The fate of the Bucs goes far beyond just one player, there are just too many holes on this team that need to be repaired.
February 25th, 2019 at 1:07 pm
Haskins is horrific, coming from c-bus, AND A FAN!! This is why fans are terrible. Lol. Take your meds, SON!!