Seems JPP Is Safe
January 11th, 2019
Seems safe
Now yesterday Joe spelled out how he thought Jason Pierre-Paul could become trade bait because new Bucs defensive coordinator Todd Bowles is not a four-man defensive front kind of coach.
Since JPP is strictly a defensive end who could play inside at times because he is so good against the run, Joe wondered aloud if JPP could be dangled for draft picks after just racking up 12.5 sacks this season.
Joe has already documented new Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians saying he will build the defense around the talent he has and don’t get hung up on defensive schemes.
Well, Arians also said something yesterday that will make fans who fear the four-man front stop sweating.
“Again, what we’ll do is what our players do best,” Arians said. “Three-four, four-three, some call is over and under. We call it different – they still line up the same. Not a two-gap team. We’re going to attack.
“As long as our players attack – in today’s NFL, you’re in nickel defense 70 percent of the time, so you’re playing a four-man line. We’ll have odd-man lines, we’ll have four-man lines. That’s just schematics to me.”
So it sure sounds like JPP is safe. And Arians brought up stud linebacker Lavonte David. So it seems he is safe.
But Gerald McCoy? Arians was asked about the stud defensive tackle and if he would return. Arians seemed a tad lukewarm with the prospect.
“Saw him this morning, he’s working out,” Arians said. “Hope so.”
January 11th, 2019 at 9:02 am
Now all we need is 21 others….with his passion
January 11th, 2019 at 9:06 am
“Wowser! offensive Head coach talking defense? imagine that
Hope there is alot of restructuring of contracts than cutting and releasing players
defensively we need 2-3 impact players and it might be costly. we the present players to help out and restructure their contracts”
Kobe Faker
January 11th, 2019 at 9:08 am
I would like to see McCoy take a pay cut for a stop gap at DT since we have needs all over the place.
Saw that we signed Kevin Ross as the db coach and Nick Rapone as the Safeties coach. I think anyone other than Hoke can do no harm at this point. Still need to add talent on the back end.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:14 am
Again Lavonte David is perfect for Bowles system.
JPP & GMC ….not so much.
No excuses move them for the additional cap space & draft capital.
Then Sign a few free agents that have played in the system – for a seamless transition.
Use the additional draft capital to foster in some healthy competition across the offensive & defensive line.
Hell who knows – might grab a star or two with those picks.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:17 am
Joe you cry, cry, cry we don’t have a 10+ sack a year guy and when we get one you “wonder aloud” if we should trade the guy… and then start complaining again we don’t have a 10 sack guy again.
The journalistic circle of life I suppose.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:18 am
Joe:
If you have a chance try to look at last night’s NFL Total Access (7pm on NFL Network).
Willie McGinest goes into a long diatribe about how excited DeSean Jackson is about the new Buc’s head coach.
By the way, Willie and DeSean are real a**hole buddies. Watch out, there’s a move afoot to keep ripping off the salary cap and bringing divisiveness back into the new regime.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:20 am
Dean – DJAx is excited because he has a whole new regime to slack off too while making amazing money
January 11th, 2019 at 9:21 am
@Dean
Lord I hope Jason Licht learned his lesson and cuts MeJax.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:22 am
GMC at a “discount “ is ridiculous.
His personality will not let him play nearly as “hard” as he has in the past.
He has the loser mindset and will feel “disrespected “ and totally give up.
And by that I mean he may not even offer us any of his great excuses …. and I definitely don’t want to see him dance at a reduced rate or even give us a 3/4 gummy smile.
Bye bye loser, I hope we can get something for you.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:25 am
All the talk of how unselfish and what a great team mate GMC is will now be tested. I GUARANTEE age will leave if the Bucs don’t pay the 13 million. He is all about the money… he always has been!
January 11th, 2019 at 9:29 am
He had even joked about telling his DC’s to send an all-out blitz with a certain gesture. Even if joking I am very excited. BA will have his hands all over the team not just one side of the ball. I don’t remember a coaching staff Gruden, Dungy or otherwise, that had their hands all over the team?
January 11th, 2019 at 9:29 am
I think you’re being a bit provocative with the McCoy line..
He also said he’s had to gameplan around him for years FWIW
January 11th, 2019 at 9:29 am
Remember men
Great teams are built on the backs of teams who draft well.
And typically if you research the best of them – you find the key to the sauce.
Outside of A Great Coaching Staff – Acquiring Multiple Premium Draft Picks Are Key to a quick turnaround!!! Especially in the free agency era.
I don’t care if look at the…
-Niners
-Washington Teams of the ’80s
or the
-Dallas
-Green Bay
-Denver
-Tampa Bay Teams of the ’90s
Followed by
-New England
-Steelers
-Seahawks
The infusion of young premium talent turned these teams around overnight.
Sure they had to trade a few assets to acquire the additional draft capital.
But the end result can’t be argued.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:30 am
I don’t care if there is a 1, 2, 3, or 4 man front…..JPP belongs on it.
Kobe…
You can best believe there will be attempts to restructure or replace many players……it will start at the highest salaries first…..Djax, GMC……
What will be interesting is to see which players he brings in who he coached….& Bowles players…..and judging from the way he filled his staff, there will be many.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:32 am
Joe, maybe you could tell us what defensive free agents will be available this year from the Jets, and Cards. New coaches like to bring in guys they’ve coached before who know their systems already. If there’s some LB’s, or DL’s from the Jets who might be a better fit then Kwon, and McCoy, we might have our answer on which direction we’re headed.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:34 am
I mean I don’t think he would ever be in trouble, dude had 12.5 sacks this season there was no way they were getting rid of him.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:35 am
The Pillars on D are: (from the front to the back)
1. JPP
2. Carl Nassib
3. Vita Vea
4. LVD
5. Kendall Beckwith
6. Justin Evans
7. Jordan Whitehead
8. Carlton Davis
So, we need to find at least 3 starters on defense.
I didn’t list Kwon bcuz I was growing very luke warm on his play t
January 11th, 2019 at 9:35 am
Just go to “overthecap.com” and click on Buccaneers. It will bring up the committed (projected) salary for every player and you can find the dead money if anyone is cut.
I cut Jackson, McCoy, Curry, Allen and Dotson. Smith isn’t projected.
Add all that up and we have 40-50 million added to our carryover of 8-16 million and we could really change the makeup of this team.
While I’m on my soapbox, here’s a big, big move for the Bucs in the draft.
Everyone ahead of the Bucs in the draft are projected to take a defensive end/lineman. The 2 teams right behind us, Giants and Jags both need a QB. Trade with either that wants it more and get their 2nd round pick . That would give us 3 picks in the top 35.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:36 am
Keeping McCoy is ludicrous! He’s been a large part of the problem and leader of the loser culture. You want change? You start by subtracting the fraud players > DJAX, McCoy. I’d include WinSTUNNED but Bruce seems to think he’ll get “smarter”….Hmmmm
January 11th, 2019 at 9:38 am
I sort of got the impression from Arians presser yesterday that any slackers, bitchers, or locker room maggots wouldn’t last long. If DJAX decides to get his sh*t together and become an asset he will play, I wouldn’t try to pre-judge any player at this point. There is a new sheriff in town and If I were a betting man I’d say he knows a hell of a lot more than any of us, Nothing would surprise me.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:39 am
sounds like if GMC dont take a pay cut, he’ll have to pack up his bat cave and head west….or north….or south….lol…..he just wont be here….lol…
#GO BUCS!!!!
January 11th, 2019 at 9:41 am
JPP is not going anywhere!
Defenses are in nickel about 70% of the time which generally means 4 man one-gap DL.
Signed
Texas Bucs Fan Association’s only member
January 11th, 2019 at 9:41 am
“TBBF
Agreed, peeps here better understand that BA is and never was a rebuilder for the future head coach
His teams always was filled with a older experienced roster
next 4-5 years of BA regime will all be plug and play
if the young players cant play well they will be replaced by vets”
Kobe Faker
January 11th, 2019 at 9:52 am
Piling on GMC is hilarious. He’s 31, OK?! No team goes into a season with 30+ year-old players without a contingency plan REGARDLESS of their salary or production.
In other words, it’s more than likely that the Bucs were already planning to transition from GMC through attrition.
So all this “we have to move on from GMC” crap is NO DUH!
The real question becomes, how many players can you replace without breaking the bank or maintaining continuity on the roster? If he can be replaced, the 31 year old DT should be replaced. His $13 million salary makes him expendable IMO. Whether he fits the system is an entirely different conversation.
As to JPP, he has shown versatility. I think that will factor into his retention. Heck, it will probably factor into a lot of players retention!
January 11th, 2019 at 9:53 am
I’ve been a Bucs fan too long to get excited about a new coach, but I feel the itch.
B.A. feels like the real deal.
January 11th, 2019 at 9:57 am
#Repost
Former Offensive Players Available (Free Agents): Bruce Arians
• Blaine Gabbert – QB (Age:28) ARI
• J.J. Nelson – WR (Age:27) ARI
• John Brown – WR (Age:29) ARI*
• Jared Veldheer – T (Age:31) ARI
• Mike Iupati -G (Age:31) ARI
Former/Current DeFensive Players Available (Free Agents): Todd Bowles
• Steve McLendon – NT (Age:33) NYJ
• Frostee Rucker – RDT (Age:34) ARI*
• Sheldon Richardson – RDT (Age:28) NYJ <–
• Henry Anderson – RDE (Age:28) NYJ* <–
• Deone Bucannon – ILB (Age:27) ARI* <–
• Avery Williamson – ILB (Age:26) NYJ*
• Neville Hewitt – ILB (Age:25) NYJ <–
• Jeremiah Attaochu – OLB (Age:26) NYJ
• Markus Golden – OLB (Age:28) ARI* <–
• Brandon Copeland – OLB (Age:27) NYJ
• Morris Claiborne – CB (Age:27) NYJ
• Buster Skrine – CB (Age:30) NYJ
• Tyrann Mathieu – S/CB (Age:26) NYJ <–
January 11th, 2019 at 10:05 am
@Joe, FYI, source tells me DeSean cancelled contract on new house he was buying here in Tampa, interesting lol.
January 11th, 2019 at 10:11 am
LUVMYBUCS
Look for Arians to replace Djax with John Brown…..4.3 40…….we still need a receiver to stretch the field.
And, I would not be a bit surprised to see him bring in Mathieu
As far as Bowles….Sheldon Richardson would be a nice pickup
January 11th, 2019 at 10:11 am
We all know D.J Swearinger wants to win badly- And trading him to team with a rookie head coach ain’t gonna cut it.
So trade for’em
Trade for/Sign
• D.J. Swearinger (S)
• Tyrann Mathieu (S)
Potential Depth Chart
Tyrann Mathieu | Jordan Whitehead
D.J. Swearinger | Justin Evans
This will sure up the backend.
January 11th, 2019 at 10:14 am
Tampabaybucfan
Would be a nice addition.
Also, don’t sleep on the possible additions of:
-Henry Anderson
-Deone Bucannon
-Markus Golden
-Neville Hewitt
Whom all thrived in Todd Bowles system.
January 11th, 2019 at 10:17 am
LUV- I’ve got to disagree on Swearinger. He’s proven to be a real pain in the a$$. Good enough player, but I would look elsewhere before signing him. My opinion, anyway.
Agreed on Brown though. Speed kills!
January 11th, 2019 at 10:20 am
Some of those Jets players sure would help the Defense…Mathieu, John Brown and Claiborne top the wish list…
January 11th, 2019 at 10:33 am
Both Jpp And McCoy will be here. If you’ve ever watched the Jets, They go in out of several defensive schemes throughout the their games. And they did it effectively. I do look for some additions on Defense though.
January 11th, 2019 at 10:55 am
Sounds like the GM learned not to build the defense around gmc and force the defensive coordinator to run the scheme that gmc wants!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 11th, 2019 at 10:59 am
Bucsfanman
I know the kid’s a d*ck.
But without a question, he brings his hard hat to work.
And he’s one of the “few” very best at this position.
Which can only elevate our entire defense.
January 11th, 2019 at 11:04 am
Erik
Replace Evans with Adams and you’re good to go
January 11th, 2019 at 11:12 am
LUV- I’m for whatever it takes, brother. I think we instantly improved with the new coaching. Add some pieces here and there, bada-bing!
January 11th, 2019 at 11:28 am
bucsfanman
you don’t get rid of talent that it why it’s imperative for the bucs to move on from cancer93 the great first step to nowhere never translated from college scouting reports to NFL on Sundays… thus no talent other than in the doll battle royale league.
just maybe and this is a reach with new LEADERSHIP in house Bucs will finally learn how to deal with talented winners versus sending them packing as malcontents all the while the team finishes in the basement year in and year out. you blame the players for being unprofessional and me first behavior but I blame the organization for not having the structure, leaders and quite frankly the SACK to deal with it. An organization that contends consistently not only can manage talent they can manage personalities. bucs can’t manage the urinal cakes for nearly 2 decades.
you can’t be scared of talent because you are incapable of managing the personality.
again look at the super bowl roster and some of those dudes off-field accomplishments — LOL
choir boy bs mentality failed with dungy and thankfully Gruden was able to clean up dungy the clowns mess fast to salvage some of the better players careers. dungy the clown wasted a lot of good players careers for six years. pretenders his entire tenure never gave those guys a chance. a bad team with a great defense. choirboy bs failed with Dominic and his signature pick the face of the basement years cancer93… talented winners win not choir boy yes men that lose quality and keep the loser fan base happy with meaningless community BS that has never won a game on Sunday.
January 11th, 2019 at 11:42 am
Dean – I really like that trade back scenario, 3 picks in the top 35 sounds really good. We haven’t been the best with our 2nd round picks, so even with the 3 picks, I’d still be nervous… Maybe that changes this year with Bruce in the mix?
January 11th, 2019 at 11:47 am
Definitely onboard with seeing if Arians can squeeze another good season out of Geraldine. Not worried about player mentality with a strong coach. Just don’t want to see him at 13 mil. I’m torn about what to do with that first pick. Running back, defensive tackle, corner or left tackle i’d Be happy with either draft position just hope licht doesn’t do anything crazy like draft a linebacker or another receiver
January 11th, 2019 at 11:53 am
That doesn’t sound like JPP or anyone else individually for that matter, is safe. It’s just a comment on the schematic philosophy of what he and Todd Bowles collaborate on. That’s all.
Massive roster decisions/trades/cuts….to be made.
Go Bucs!
January 11th, 2019 at 11:59 am
Man I hope they add a hybrid DE/OLB pass rushing animal.
January 11th, 2019 at 12:00 pm
Looking at the FA available from Cards & Jets I could see a big overhaul. For starters get rid of D smith, Bennoch & Dotson & try and sign Iupati & Veldheer.
January 11th, 2019 at 12:02 pm
Bucs should go after Frank Clark in Seattle.
January 11th, 2019 at 12:32 pm
DB55
i agree….
i think adams and harris earned some serious consideration….
#GO BUCS!!!!
January 11th, 2019 at 12:40 pm
McCoy situation is pretty simple.
– He doesn’t deserve $13M next year
– None of the other 31 teams will trade for him with that salary
– So he’ll be cut or asked to take a new deal
Only question is:
Will McCoy take less to stay in Tampa?
No. He’ll go to the highest bidder because he plays 100% for the money.
January 11th, 2019 at 12:42 pm
Okay, so I like what I’m hearing… attack. So this 3-4 will still be a one gap system similar to what the Rams run in LA and Texans run in Houston. JPP likely drawing the role of outside pass rusher on most snaps. Nassib likely lined up similar to a 3-tech like Donald and Watt do… He might do really well in that role. I’ve already called him Watt Lite numerous times, he’s still young and ascending. A great DC can bring out the best/beast in him. Vea as the 1-tech NT like he was in the 4-3 won’t change what he does much. Penetrate and disrupt. Our little ILBs will be flying to the ball like Buchannon in AZ and Shazier did in Pittsburgh. The days of the 2-gap 3-4 DE are coming to an end. If McCoy agrees to restructure his contract… maybe half of his $13 mil plus incentives that can get him back to close that number, he and Nassib can be stalwart attacking 3-4 DEs. Beckwith can be on the field almost full-time (if Kwon leaves, of course) as he would be the OLB opposite JPP. This may turn out well for us. A smart DC can do wonders if he can utilize his talent on the field. I’m almost starting to get excited about the defense. I already like the talent we have in the secondary with CB Davis, FS Evans, SS Whitehead, and extra S Adams. If we can bring in one more CB to compete with Stewart and Hargreaves and perhaps another safety, we have some talent there with a decent pass rush.
January 11th, 2019 at 12:48 pm
tmax- I completely agree. Coaching and leadership were sorely missing under Koetter. And believe me, with Swearinger it’s more of a buyer beware thing than a “don’t sign that guy” thing.
As to GMC, well, it’s time. My crow was delicious! I paired it with Maker’s Mark instead of Evan Williams though.
January 11th, 2019 at 1:17 pm
Guys like JPP are too hard to replace. Sure you can replace the talent but it’s not about talent or stats. It’s about the immeasurables.
Guys like JPP are the type that create momentum. They are the type that thrive under pressure……while many others crumble.
You can have all the talent in the world but that doesn’t mean you can do the thing JPP can do. And at the end of the day it’s guys like JPP that provide the spark needed for victory.
Kwon brings a lot of the same intangables as JPP. Ian Beckles is right, Kwon needs to be a Buccaneer this year…….He needs to brush up his technique and he has to give us 16. Kwon is not a perceft player by any stretch of the mind but he can be an instrumental piece to a winning team………too hard to replace that.
January 11th, 2019 at 2:07 pm
Fow now, if a full 3-4
LDE McCOY/UNREIN
NT ALLEN/TU’IKOLOVATU
RDE VEA/GHOLSTON
LOLB PIERRE-PAUL/CURRY/F. HUGUENIN
LILB BECKWITH/BULLOUGH/E. SMITH
RILB DAVID/NELSON/BOND
ROLB NASSIB/SPENCE/D. HARRIS
January 11th, 2019 at 2:21 pm
Bucsfanman
you the man! never go wrong with makers
January 11th, 2019 at 3:21 pm
Not really sure why JPP couldn’t play DE in a 3-4, he’s not a small Tampa 2 DE, he’s a good sized all-around player who can hold up against the run. If they want yo win now, and it sounds like they do, then you keep him around.