Greg Schiano Ousted
January 7th, 2019
Unemployed.
On a day the Bucs could announce the hiring of a new coach an old coach, it appears, just got the boot.
Thought it is unclear whether it was voluntary or involuntary, there are multiple reports floating on social media that former Bucs commander Greg Schiano is no longer the defensive coordinator at The Ohio State and has left the program.
In a quote late in December, Schiano seemed to hint he was a goner as Urban Meyer was stepping down as Buckeyes coach, documented the Columbus Dispatch.
“I love being here,” Schiano said. “My family loves being here. But anytime there is a coaching change, whether it’s internal or not, the head coach has to select the staff that he feels gives the team the best chance to win.
“Whatever coach Day decides to do is certainly his prerogative. Right now, I’m concerned with one thing and that’s winning the Rose Bowl.”
Joe knows some locally mock Team Glazer for getting rid of so many coaches in such a short time. But let’s review.
Father Dungy: Was with the Bucs for six seasons. Largely credited with turning out a moribund franchise. Got the Bucs to one NFC title game. In his last three playoff games with the Bucs, his offense never scored a touchdown. Went on to win a Super Bowl with Indianapolis.
Chucky: Seven years as Bucs coach, three postseason appearances including winning the Super Bowl for the 2002 season. Just returned to coaching this year after his firing following the 2008 season.
Raheem Morris: Three years as Bucs coach with one winning season. Jobbed out of a playoff berth after winning 10 games. Failed to reach the playoffs in a tiebreaker with eventual Super Bowl champion Packers. Lost 10 games in a row to close out his third and final season. Since, has been an assistant with playoff teams in Washington and Atlanta. Can’t seem to land an interview for a head coaching job outside of a token Rooney Rule interview (which says a lot about the powers that be in the NFL).
Greg Schiano: In two years never had a winning season. Leaky, sleepy quarterback Josh Freeman melted down. Attempted to hand the reigns of the franchise to Mike Glennon. After a three-year gig as defensive coordinator at Ohio State, Schiano is now out of a job.
Lovie Smith: Made too many boneheaded errors to count in two losing seasons. Totally gutted the defense that had several starters play and play well for other teams including a future Hall of Fame player. Instead, replaced the jettisoned starters with a collection of outright stiffs. Claimed Stewart McClown was the savior at quarterback. Nosedived the franchise to the first pick in the draft. Since, took over a once respectable program at the University of Illinois and has nearly destroyed it beyond recognition in three seasons including a school record 63-0 home loss to Iowa.
Dirk Koetter: Had one winning season in the first of his three-year stint. Since went 10-22.
So once again Joe will ask those who think these coaches were jammed by Team Glazer in getting run so quick. What have Morris, Schiano and Lovie done since they left the Bucs that suggests they were wronged by Team Glazer?
One guy is lucky to get an interview for a head coach opening despite having a 10-win season, another can’t keep a college coordinator job and the third has napalmed a Big Ten program. Would you hire any of the post-Chucky coaches (too soon to tell about Koetter) if you ran an NFL team?
Didn’t think so.
The problem wasn’t that Team Glazer fired these coaches in the post-Chucky era. The problem was Team Glazer hired these coaches.
January 7th, 2019 at 2:27 pm
Arians and Bowles to Tampa is being reported everywhere. I COULDN’T CARE ANY LESS about the old coaches, lets celebrate and support the new ones. LETS GO BUCS!!!!
January 7th, 2019 at 2:28 pm
Leadership starts at the top. What’s the common denominator through all of this?!
Man, I hope they get this one right. I really do.
January 7th, 2019 at 2:30 pm
“This is the best DL I have EVER seen in all my years of coaching and that includes the NFL”
OSU gets Blasted by Oklahoma
January 7th, 2019 at 2:34 pm
Does Joe spell check these articles anymore? I’ve seen like 7 errors today alone.
January 7th, 2019 at 2:34 pm
Schiano was supposed to be head coach at Tennessee but got screwed by the PR police because of a 5th hand account of him maybe possibly knowing something in the Paterno case.
January 7th, 2019 at 2:35 pm
Jay Glazer was just on Colon Cowturd and said the Glazers made BA take a physical as part of the interview. He had never heard of that and said BA will be hired in the next day or 2.
January 7th, 2019 at 2:35 pm
ChanEpic Says
“Arians and Bowles to Tampa…”
I’m warming up to the idea…but wouldn’t it be a kicker if the Browns swooped in and made a deal with him in the last minutes?
January 7th, 2019 at 2:36 pm
Yep. It’s all about nailing a hire for once.
That’s why I said Koetter is probably the best of the post-Chucky coaches – but that isn’t even saying anything.
Just like Licht is exponentially better than Dominic at adding talent; and Licht isn’t even average.
January 7th, 2019 at 2:37 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
January 7th, 2019 at 2:34 pm
Does Joe spell check these articles anymore? I’ve seen like 7 errors today alone.
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Evidently Joe won’t pony up for that. I’ve been lightly messing with him for years.
Just kinda busting his balls. Love the sight though
January 7th, 2019 at 2:39 pm
Morris shouldn’t have been fired. Go back and look at the complete lack of talent on his team – he should have been given another year. To add to that the Jersey Trash(tm) Schiano was such a terrible hire to follow up Morris and called Josh Freeman a fatso so many times he drove him to a life of drugs (I don’t actually know if that’s true, but I think it is). Schiano was a terrible coach and a terrible hire, he was an emergency plan B hire after Kelly backed out of a done deal – and I would have loved to have seen Kelly running that offense with a fat Freeman at it’s helm – I still hate we never saw that. Instead the Jersey Trash(tm) Schiano is brought in, destroys the team, and says the future is Mike Glennon….
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How can any reasonable person NOT hate Schiano?
January 7th, 2019 at 2:45 pm
licht, bruce, todd, and buckner….lol…
licht still hasnt learned his lesson….stop with the quick fixes…..
Tampa Bay Cardinals…..lol…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…#KRISISTHEPICK!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
January 7th, 2019 at 2:47 pm
SB, don’t you mean “love the site though”? Although, maybe just happy for another day with vision…
Oh lord, I don’t mean to add fuel to grammar wars – I will lose badly.
January 7th, 2019 at 2:47 pm
SB Says:
“Love the sight though”
Actually, just to mess with you…it’s “site”…as in “website”.
“Sight” is a visual benefit of having eyes. 😉
Nanner-nanner. lol
January 7th, 2019 at 2:54 pm
In other OSU news:
Ohio State quarterback Dwayne Haskins, a potential first overall pick, has announced he will enter the 2019 NFL draft.
someone will be interested in him
January 7th, 2019 at 2:59 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
January 7th, 2019 at 2:35 pm
I’m warming up to the idea…but wouldn’t it be a kicker if the Browns swooped in and made a deal with him in the last minutes?
STOP IT!!!! LOL, I’m actually from Ohio so I would be kind of OK for the Browns but I BLEED Pewter so, STOP IT! 🙂
January 7th, 2019 at 3:05 pm
SB
You stole my line!!! LOL I was going to point out that Schiano moronic statement and then what followed. Well I give him this…Mayfield shredded a lot of D’s in his college career.
I remember when Schiano made that statement I called my son who lives in Columbus and knows OSU football VERY well.
His response…that was a brain dead remark but he considered Schiano stupid.
The other point is that if we view all of these coaches only two deserved to be hired to begin with. This was as much a failure of our selection process as the coaches who failed. Let’s hope we get it right this time.
January 7th, 2019 at 3:15 pm
There’s a big difference between Dirk getting fired compared to Raheem Schiano and Lovie
The difference was Dirk took hold of a team that was already built and was ready to win/ contend. The other three took on a rebuild project. You can make a case for the other three getting fired too quickly but there is very little excuse for Dirk. Dirk’s team wasn’t a year or two away, they were supposed to be ready to win now.
January 7th, 2019 at 3:21 pm
JJ
Do not disagree but perhaps I’m a little more forgiving of Koetter.
It’s hard to truly trash a guy who loses his starting QB for the first three games of the season. That was a bigger blow than we wish to allow for because we still root for JW and don’t want to bring that up. But now that I read the Grimes comments and DJAX and before that Swaggy…it’s clear that Koetter simply is over his head when it comes to building a locker room….which of course if what Arians really values so perhaps we’ll finally catch a break here with lazy brain dead FA’s.
I felt worse for Rah because he was so young and inexperienced and he was thrown to the wolves during the Man U financing phase of the Bucs. No players or support from the Glazers at that point in Buc’s history.
So your point is well taken there…Koetter/Licht were not handicapped by the Glazers like Rah.
January 7th, 2019 at 3:30 pm
JJ
I don’t think this has been built to win in at least 10 years.
We definitely have many offensive pieces but the D has been seriously lacking talent.
January 7th, 2019 at 3:31 pm
Could Greg Schiano end up working under Bowles?
January 7th, 2019 at 3:33 pm
JimmyJack Says:
“The difference was Dirk took hold of a team that was already built and was ready to win/ contend.”
Not true. Keep in mind, Koetter came over the same year we got Winston and his half oline. most of the WRs were added after he was here.
January 7th, 2019 at 3:36 pm
St Pete…..Fair point about lack of support for Raheem. But I have to take issue saying he was handicapped.
His team flat out quit on him in year 2. It was one of most disgraceful and embarrassing teams in franchise history.
He was the leader of that mess and the performance is a reflexion on him. In many ways he started the losing culture of this orginazation.
No excuse for the awful job he did IMO.
January 7th, 2019 at 3:38 pm
Bonzai your wrong. Dirk was not the HC for Winston’s rookie year. Marpet and D.Smith were both established starters when he took the job too.
January 7th, 2019 at 3:40 pm
I hated Schiano the Little General so much that I created an Avatar of him in clown make up.
I have never changed it, the hatred still burns.
I must say that he would make a good special teams coach in the NFL.
January 7th, 2019 at 3:43 pm
@stpetebucsfan
• Swaggy – Signed for the money. Stopped playing hard the moment he got the money.
• Desean Jackson – Signed for the money. Decided avoiding hits was more important than catching the ball and obviously does not like Winston.
• Brent Grimes – Resigned this year for the money, accepted the deal, then decided it was not enough to actually play hard.
All of them have one thing in common. Money.
I prefer McCarthy, but I am warming up to the idea of Arians, looking for bright spots in the hire. For example, when he was with the Cardinals, they brought in some decent free agents. Hopefully that will help here.
January 7th, 2019 at 3:46 pm
Schiano to USF
January 7th, 2019 at 3:49 pm
Doosh…..The point is when the other three coaches were here we were rebuilding……You could maybe debate Schiano wasn’t.
Dirk was not here to rebuild like the others. That’s why you haven’t seen him get rid of any key players. They have actually been signing more of their own players.
January 7th, 2019 at 4:06 pm
Licht should have been fired along with Koetter. He’s the one who brought in the high character guys like Baker, Grimes, DJack , ASJ, etc… Thanks to Licht, the new coach will have to do miracles especially on defense.
January 7th, 2019 at 4:07 pm
Info on Todd Bowles
• He adapts his defense according to the team he plays.
When the Cardinals played the Dallas Cowboys, Bowles switched from a predominately 3-4 scheme to a 4-3, simply because it was a better matchup. They won that game 28-17
• Very Aggressive. Blitzes a lot.
• Adapts to his players, or he did with the Cards at least.
• So far as Arians, he likes to throw in Dime Packages a lot too.
January 7th, 2019 at 4:17 pm
Please god let’s switch to 3-4, it is far superior to 4-3
January 7th, 2019 at 4:45 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
January 7th, 2019 at 4:07 pm
Info on Todd Bowles
• He adapts his defense according to the team he plays.
When the Cardinals played the Dallas Cowboys, Bowles switched from a predominately 3-4 scheme to a 4-3, simply because it was a better matchup. They won that game 28-17
• Very Aggressive. Blitzes a lot.
• Adapts to his players, or he did with the Cards at least.
• So far as Arians, he likes to throw in Dime Packages a lot too.
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Music to my freaking ears!!
January 7th, 2019 at 5:03 pm
@JimmyJack … “There’s a big difference between Dirk getting fired compared to Raheem Schiano and Lovie. The difference was Dirk took hold of a team that was already built and was ready to win/ contend. The other three took on a rebuild project.” So you consider the 2016 team ‘already built & ready to win’ JimmyJack? That team was lucky to go 9-7, and needed a 5-game defense-led winning streak to do that. That same defense that regressed considerably in 2017 & 2018.
The HC who had a ‘ready to go’ team was Lovie … and then he proceeded to blow it up & bring in the likes of LT Collins (to replace Donald Penn), Center Evan Smith (to replace Jeremy Zuttah), Patrick Omanmeh (to replace Davin Joseph) & of course Ghost Johnson & QB Josh McCown among a host of others. What could possibly go wrong with Lovie & his Lapdog hand-picking all that talent. Oh wait, 2-14 in 2014 went wrong, I forgot. Although to be fair, we did win the Winston Cup that following draft. Oh wait again …
January 7th, 2019 at 5:22 pm
Joe: cannot do what was, only interested in what is.
January 7th, 2019 at 6:16 pm
Sign Tyranne Mathieu!
He played for Arians. I told the Bucs to draft him. And to sign him last year! Check the archives here! Facts!
I say, Play a permanent nickle! Fu%% 3 LB’s!
You guys see the Chargers game? 7 DBs!!
Derwin James is a badass by the way.
Permanent nickle with David, Kwon and Mathieu at “LB”
January 7th, 2019 at 6:34 pm
I just want hope for us Buc fans. We are sick and tired of Losing. Come on with it Arians!!! Would luv to see my team in the playoffs instead of watching teams I could care less about.
January 7th, 2019 at 6:50 pm
Alright Joe you (pleasantly) surprised me with the acknowledgement Raheem is getting hosed and deserves more than “courtesy interviews”. The guy was I think the youngest or one of the youngest head coaches ever and led one of the youngest teams ever with 10 rookies on it to 10 wins. He deserves a HC shot by now having worked with several teams. Hopefully he becomes DC somewhere for a couple seasons and gets his shot
January 7th, 2019 at 8:07 pm
The problem has been the glaziers all along. They can never get the right guy.
Licht will get the credit if Arains is hired and if that happens, Im willing to be ROJO and Noah Spence BOTH prove not to be busts and were poorly coached and developed.
Glad they kept Licht and hope Arian signs
January 7th, 2019 at 9:16 pm
Best Buccaneers head coach they’ve had in years
January 7th, 2019 at 9:20 pm
BucEmUp – Cool, now that you gave them a second chance I’m sure they’ll have the confidence to turn it around.
January 7th, 2019 at 10:17 pm
As previouslly pointed out by another poster Schiano had the Tennessee HC job signed, sealed, and delivered before the students with a “guilty until proven innocent” mindset had a safe space meltdown. My point…based on the solid job he did at OSU and the fact that he already interviewed well enough once to land a major school HC gig I fully expect he’ll land somewhere else in the college or NFL circle (HC or DC respectively).
January 7th, 2019 at 11:02 pm
Give Schiano a little respect. He came in here to an undisciplined team with a really weak offense. He had no choice to be saddled to Freeman, but was given permission to select a QB his first year but only with a 3rd round pick. Glennon was considered a bargain for the price since he was thought to be a closer 2nd round pick. If only Schiano was given the green light in 2nd round instead we might have gotten Jimmy GQ. The referee strike and the bone head replacement ref who publicly ridiculed Schiano for the kneel down rush started a bad PR feeding frenzy by the national media and then of course the local media feeling left out of the fray took it even further. I never seen so much hate directed at a coach that was so over the top it was ridiculous. They put billboards up on I-10 through Tampa requesting Schiano be fired. The guy was crucified in the court of public opinion with kangaroo court propaganda. Remember, “Toes on the line” was started to disparage him as some maniacal dictator when he was being hired as coach that would instill discipline. MRSA wasn’t a little matter at the time. It had already taken 2 of our star players off the field, and was a concern medically but somehow that was attached to Schiano like a badge of failure. That coach got a bad rap in my opinion. I don’t know but it seemed like what this team was lacking but the candy arse media couldn’t leave him alone. He may have turned things around not saddled to Freeman anymore but we’ll never know. Schiano will land on his feet but the hate is evidently manufactured sheepness. <— I take credit for new word.
Rod Munch said, How can any reasonable person NOT hate Schiano?
I say, How can any reasonable person have so much hate? True colors?
January 8th, 2019 at 12:46 am
By your own analysis, we just fired the best coach since Chucky.
Anyways, I’m fine with hiring Schiano back on as a defensive coordinator. This team needs some Toes on the line.
January 8th, 2019 at 2:21 am
Greg Schiano deserves some more respect and praise. He is a really good coach. He was beginning to turn the Bucs culture around and the defense was good. He is not in the same garbage category as Morris, Smith, and Koetter.
As far as coaching jobs: he got screwed at Tennessee, was runner up to Richt for the Miami HC job, could have been the Oregon HC before Taggart, but he turned it down to stay at OSU. The Oregon job was his to have, and reports say he turned down the NE Patriots DC job under Belichick this last year to stay at OSU.
January 8th, 2019 at 7:48 am
Hold up Joe. Look back at how much Team Glazer spent with Morris as HC. They probably shouldn’t have hired him to begin with, but Morris received little support from ownership. After his 10 win season our biggest FA acquisition was a punter and that’s cause the Glazers didn’t want to spend the money.
January 8th, 2019 at 1:37 pm
Will THIS finally be the coach who will put some MAJOR THINKING into a SOLID offensive line? Defense wins games? BULL****!!! You need POINTS and BALL CONTROL!!! Also, will THIS finally be the coach to instill ACCOUNTABILITY & DISCIPLINE on the team, rather than the players’ emphasis on their “choreographies” and end zone prancing & dancing?
January 8th, 2019 at 7:31 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
“I’m warming up to the idea…but wouldn’t it be a kicker if the Browns swooped in and made a deal with him in the last minutes?”
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*In classic Butthead voice* “Ha-ha huh-huh. He said KICKER!”
January 14th, 2019 at 7:42 am
Coach Greg C did get boned by the Big Orange Tennessee admin and alumni. I hope they stay at the level of Vandy and go 2-10 for every year to come. They were cursed when Johnny Majors got shanked by his assisstant. Hell they can not even beat South Carolina anymore who is the mark of mediocrity in the SEC under Muschamp. a guaranteed 4-4 season….