“You Are Going To Make A Mess In Your Pants”
January 5th, 2019
Former Bucs G Ian Beckles.
In the opinion of one popular former Bucs player, any offensive coach in the NFL would be fully aroused if offered the chance to coach the Bucs.
That’s the word from former Bucs guard and popular local radio personality Ian Beckles. Speaking from his podcast, “In the Trenches,” Beckles is of the mind the Bucs’ opening at head coach is a big-time lure.
Many in the Fourth Estate, especially those who reside in the cold northeast, believe the Bucs job is a shambles and no right-thinking person would come near it short of someone desperate to be an NFL coach.
Beckles thinks that’s crazy talk. And the main reason? Whoever takes over the Bucs will have America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, to work with.
“Hell yes!” Beckles bellowed in response to his won rhetorical question of whether coaches would want to coach the Bucs. “If you are an offensive-minded coach and someone says, ‘Hey, look at this Buccaneer team.’ You are going to salivate first. Then you are going to make a mess in your pants looking at the amount of talent we have here.
“And if and when you come here, and you figure Jameis Winston out — I hear people ask why they have to work around Jameis Winston? Because it is the smart thing to do — but if you come in here and you figure Jameis Winston out, and you start to win football games and you take this team to the playoffs, you are going to be a JEAN-yes. You are going to be like the quarterback whisperer if you can figure Jameis out.”
But will that supposed pool of talent take a hit with the expected goodbye wave of malcontent wide receiver DeSean Jackson? Is Chris Godwin ready to step in to fill the hole? Will Adam Humphries be back? These are all legitimate questions to ask about how loaded the Bucs offense is.
But Beckles has a valid point. When is the last time a team had this many weapons in the passing game that was drafting No. 5 overall?
One has to figure after the peeling back of the onion skins by cornerback Brent Grimes, if the Bucs had halfway competent secondary coaches to start the 2018 season, there’s no way the Bucs would have lost 11 games.
January 5th, 2019 at 5:04 am
#BecklesIsBoss
January 5th, 2019 at 5:13 am
And Licht sucks?
January 5th, 2019 at 5:20 am
Beckles is entertaining I’ll give him that. Assuming you can live with terrible owners and a failure at GM, then yes I can see an offensive coach being excited to coach our WR’s and TE’s – the O-line, RB’s and QB – perhaps not as much, as they are works in progress or regress.
When Jason Licht became the Bucs’ general manager, Tampa Bay was the worst team in the NFC South. Five years later, the Bucs are still the worst team in the South
Licht = 27-53
Winston = 21-33
Since Malcolm’s Stroke = 77 – 131
New HC = 0-0 (but he will have to coach Licht’s picks)
January 5th, 2019 at 6:04 am
Fire Licht!
January 5th, 2019 at 6:10 am
Joe let’s not forget OJ Howard will be back also! I think if Humphries doesn’t return I have confidence Licht will draft another great receiver like he did with Godwin.
January 5th, 2019 at 6:11 am
Agree.
But, team needs a lot of discipline!
No cell phone at half time!
Do job assigned to utmost of ability (you are being paid $$$$$).
Help fellow teammates!
Need coaches who motivate, especially defense (hey, bring back Monte😆)!
January 5th, 2019 at 6:16 am
I’m really interested to see what Justin Watson has as well. Just too much talent in front of him. And don’t forget BoBo Wilson could be interesting as well.
January 5th, 2019 at 6:22 am
If we want Humphries there should be no good reason not to keep him. We have the Djax money and keeping him would only require part of it.
January 5th, 2019 at 6:23 am
So excited to see who our next head coach is!
January 5th, 2019 at 6:29 am
@Joe … ” if the Bucs had halfway competent secondary coaches to start the 2018 season, there’s no way the Bucs would have lost 11 games.” Oh ya Joe, because TALENT like Javien Elliott, Ryan Smith, a couple of rookies, all led by unappreciated & underpaid, aging Brent Grimes were all destined to set the NFL on-fire. But that’s OK, Isaiah Johnson had their backs. Losing is a TEAM EFFORT. You don’t ‘achieve’ 5-11 records 2 years running simply because your Secondary coaches can’t coach up mediocre talent. Plenty of REASONS this team has underachieved for many, many years.
January 5th, 2019 at 6:47 am
Yeah, I love the final statement from Beckles, which says it ALL…..”if you can figure Jameis out”. WTF?? We need another 5 million dollar coaching staff to figure out a guy who overthrows, turns it over, and can’t keep his hands to himself???? Ridiculous.
January 5th, 2019 at 6:58 am
Yeah, those North East Guys, they think they’re so smart. Just because they get to the play-offs and win the Super Bowl a lot…
January 5th, 2019 at 7:00 am
IF, IF, IF, IF and more IFs…….
Come On Man!
January 5th, 2019 at 7:07 am
“Didnt this clown state we have to move on from JW few weeks ago?….What a joke”
Kobe Faker
January 5th, 2019 at 7:20 am
The proof of how well the new coach is set in his passion for Mr. Winston is after the first game of a Winston multi turnover game. Say like an average game for Winston 2-3-4 turnovers maybe a few passes that could have been picked off but the DB drops the ball. With a normal dose of high, low, overthrown, underthrown passes never hitting the WR in stride. Then we shall truly see just how much love the Head Coach is a Winston fan. The last head coach just got canned because of those same actions. This will not be missed by the new head coach, because like the former head coach if there are not enough WINS there will again be head coaches rolling away from Tampa and One Buc Place. Talk is cheap the real results will be that first multi turnover game. Mr. Beckles and The Joe’s might be very surprised to see how fast that divorce happens.
Good luck, to whoever the new head coach is.
Go Bucs!
January 5th, 2019 at 7:27 am
Dude. Give it a rest …”whoever gets to work with America’s Qb is the reason” It’s like you are a 13 yr old girl that has the hots for the lead singer of a boy band. Sorry man but it’s just really bad for your product. It’s worn out. It really is. Creepyish being a grown man
That’s not what he said. “If you figure Jameis out”-. He was talking about all the weapons the Bucs have on offense. And yes Jameis is one of those players. But You know …it’s the best receiving and tight end group in the NFL= weapons. . Any capable qb should make this offense hummm with a All those weapons. And barber is not as bad as people say on this site. Bye bye Benenoch and draft best tackle and swoosh. Arians can do wonders for Jameis since he is the qb whisperer. (I hope anyway….fingers crossed )
January 5th, 2019 at 7:27 am
Licht had a little something to do with the Bucs having the most prolific offense in franchise history despite no ground threat and a less than impressive OL. A mediocre defense will be enough to make the Bucs a playoff team. A little support and encouragement from the “fans” would be a refreshing change around here would be great, though I know that won’t happen. Some people aren’t happy unless they can drum up something to bitch about. Dig through the pile of horsesh!t. There’s got to be a pony in there somewhere.
January 5th, 2019 at 7:35 am
Morgus man you’re just a troll. #3 can play people want to compare his turnovers to Bortles, and yes it’s fair but look at things like an objective adult. Meaning you have to look at all his passing records he’s set already. Jameis is such a talent , he’s not going anywhere get over it. His wins and loses are a TEAM effort. Look at the great Aaron Rogers, Matt Ryan, Big Ben and they only have 2 more wins than Jameis. Don’t forget to add they’re 8 years plus older. Go cheer on a Boy Scout team, my 2 sons and myself included doesn’t need a 24 year old KID to be my measuring stick to be a man. Fire the trolls !!!!
January 5th, 2019 at 7:38 am
Classy Ian. Such a way with imagery you have
January 5th, 2019 at 7:41 am
ESPN has the actual comments made by Brent Grimes. If you haven’t seen them, it’s worth a look. Joes story didn’t do his comments justice.
Go see what a little butch he is. Haha- he needed more money to actually play foot ball. The guy was a joke all year.
I know- wrong story, but hopefully y’all get to see him and Miko whine.
January 5th, 2019 at 7:43 am
Sparky your asking way too much of this pathetic fan base. For some reason they prefer a full reboot and cannot understand why Licht is helping with the coaching search. I guess Koetter is the one who drafted the offensive players we have. Koetter was trash, so was every coach since Gruden but we have morons here thinking that doesn’t matter and the gm’s should have a winning record anyway. If this team was talentless where did the no excuses mantra come from all off-season. Worst fan base in sports to go along with a poorly run poorly coached franchise. So pathetic and so obvious why people are afraid to give the quarterback and gm another year but wanted to keep the coach that is only prolific between the 20’s. Licht is here and already here for another year STFU with the fire Licht nonsense idiots or go jump off a bridge, stop wasting your life on your irrelevant opinion
January 5th, 2019 at 7:50 am
Quit complaining about what you want (fire Licht, release Winston) because we all know it isn’t going to happen in 2019. Instead talk about what we need to do to get better. This blog operates best during FA and the draft when everyone brings their opinions on who to go after and why.
I’m of the belief the Bucs have one big decision to make – Donovan or McCoy. I believe they will end up keeping one (at least for 2019), but not both. That decision will drive their first round draft choice at #5.
January 5th, 2019 at 7:51 am
Under appreciated Brent Grimes- that team player who didn’t want to cover, tackle, or stick elite receivers because he got his ass burnt on the daily.
But if he’d just been paid more money he would have got us 1 interception or a nice tackle. It’s a joke you even mentioned him in your post.
January 5th, 2019 at 7:59 am
@Slugglife … “It’s a joke you even mentioned him in your post.” Apparently sarcasm isn’t your forte.
January 5th, 2019 at 8:07 am
Probably right.I may have missed it. I guess were on the same page.
January 5th, 2019 at 8:10 am
Jameis is going to be great!
January 5th, 2019 at 8:22 am
All y’all need is Tandy back with your new Coach and you will win again like in 2016!!
January 5th, 2019 at 8:43 am
Let’s do this .
Let’s rank each position talent wise the nfl
There are some smart people on this blog let’s see yalls version. Here is my Mine.
Qb -23rd
Offensive line -27th
Backs- 29th
Wide outs /tight ends 5th
Defensive line 20th
Backers 25th
Secondary 32nd
Kicker 27th
Punter 12th
January 5th, 2019 at 8:51 am
I believe some fans just under appreciate Winston’s ability to operate in a dirty pocket. I wanted the Bucs to draft him not because he threw a accurate pass, but his ability to throw the ball in the face of a pass rush. Winston has the ability to salvage a play that has broken down and create something from nothing.
January 5th, 2019 at 8:58 am
Soooo Grimes was taught to funnel any runner on his side (cause the lit bih cant move) to the inside so someone else can make the tackle???????
What kind of BS is that?
You head for that guy and knock the crap out of him.
January 5th, 2019 at 8:58 am
I’m not for bringing DJax back but we better find a deep threat speed guy like him. The offense was different without him, defenses played more confident at the line of scrimmage with him sidelined.
The quick out on third and short by DJax was money!!!
January 5th, 2019 at 9:01 am
fire Licht ,trade Winston and get a good coach !!
January 5th, 2019 at 9:02 am
I understand the offense will likely be different under a new coach. Speed guys still open up the field for others WRs, No matter the system!
January 5th, 2019 at 9:05 am
As I’ve said on other threads, this is an attractive job for any perspective head coach because you are walking into a win/win:
1. Be successful in 2019 and you become the guy who “fixed Jameis”
2. Don’t be successful in 2019 and you can say “Jameis was never my guy”, and you get to draft in the top 10 of what looks to be a very strong quarterback class for the 2020 draft
January 5th, 2019 at 9:11 am
SWINNEY is gonna have fun coaching this team. And next year he can draft Justin Lawrence to really get this team in prime position.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:34 am
So it’s a sports blog and we exchange our opinions…although some of us post as if opinions = facts. LOL
Point is…it’s all speculation. That’s great…it’s fun..and sometimes we are even right.
But along the way we get carried away…coaches are trash…the QB is an ATM…the OL can’t block anybody…DB’s are awful…it’s just gets to be a blame the latest scapegoat in many cases. I’m not saying they are blameless. I’m simply saying there is PLENTY of blame to go around and all the teams have to deal with disappointing players and coaches. Look at one of the top franchises in the league this year…Pittsburgh.
D.R. pretty well nailed it….”Plenty of REASONS this team has underachieved for many, many years.”
January 5th, 2019 at 9:37 am
^^ No problem with Dabo, but we don’t need a QB, Easy.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:39 am
“If someone can come in and figure Jameis Winston out”
“They will have to work around Jameis Winston”
Head coaches want to coach a QB that they have to figure out or work around? Yep, I’m sure that’s attractive.
Potential head coaching candidates are probably looking at the talent they will have their 2nd year here when they get to pick their own QB
January 5th, 2019 at 9:52 am
^^ It’s not unusual, Brian. If you look throughout NFL history, there are many QB’s who showed great promise and just needed the right coach and/or offense to connect it all together and find their best player within.
Jameis appears to be right on the cusp of becoming his very best. The right coach should push it over the top. And any coach worth his salt would want that opportunity.
January 5th, 2019 at 10:01 am
Figure jameis out, jameis needs a better coach, if koetter and monken were so terrible how are they going to be NFL OCs next year? Jameis is the same guy from FSU, he had one prolific year and the rest have been ok. If arians is the guy hope he brings bowles because this defense is horrible and all the teams in ths playoffs have good to great defenses and a run game
January 5th, 2019 at 10:01 am
Our offense desperstely needs a super fast WR who runs polished routes to replace Djax or our offense sucks.
When the defense can clamp down on our receivers and doesn’t have to loosen up bcuz of the elite speed threat, our receivers can’t get open consistently and our offense becomes anemic.
Our offense was honestly pretty terrible as soon as DJax went out. We at least need the ‘threat’ of an elite speed guy on virtually every down or we suck.
January 5th, 2019 at 10:03 am
*desperately
January 5th, 2019 at 10:09 am
Duthsty Rhothdes Says:
“If Arians is the guy hope he brings Bowles because this defense is horrible”
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Duthsty, we may disagree on Jameis, but could not agree with you MORE on this statement. Bowles would be a HUGE addition to our D, if it is indeed Arians who is getting the job.
January 5th, 2019 at 10:15 am
Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:
“Our offense was honestly pretty terrible as soon as DJax went out. We at least need the ‘threat’ of an elite speed guy”
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Can’t disagree with ya one bit, Erik. It is very evident that we need a speed guy without the DJax prima donna antics… that can help open things up for the offense.
Erik, I also would want to mention not to forget OJ Howard. I think the loss of him also had a lot to do with the “O” slowing down a bit. Having him back will be huge, and I believe he is on the cusp of becoming a Pro Bowler.
January 5th, 2019 at 12:01 pm
Wrong. It starts with not having players like Brittle Grimes
January 5th, 2019 at 12:13 pm
Trevor Lawrence is a Mike Glennon clone with hair.No Thanks !
January 5th, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I don’t know why Bobo can’t fill the role of speed receiver. The kid gets open, makes plays and is by far or best return guy on the team. You can always draft or trade for a 4.3 guy but is it necessary?
January 5th, 2019 at 1:08 pm
@easy
Trevor is a true freshman…
@charles
He is way more athletic than Glennon and will take chances…
Y’all should try watching college football
January 5th, 2019 at 1:35 pm
“If someone can figure out” =/= “America’s QB, pro bowler”
America hates Jameis. Media talks about Jameis yes, because he’s a QB with off field issues. Not because they like the guy. Only people who like him are team mates and Bucs fan. Let some Bucs fans tell it tho, its racism. Pro Bowler lol. Wasnt he an alternate? Didnt he play terribly in the pro bowl game? Has he been even close since he made it that year? Saying pro bowler like hes one of the top QBs in the league.
Doug Martin had more success on the Bucs than Jameis has had. I dont remember any “pro bowler, Doug Martin”
January 5th, 2019 at 1:40 pm
Beckles has inked out a nice little niche talking smack there in TB. I remember when he played and use to get boe-lowed on his butt quite a bit in TB and Philly.
January 5th, 2019 at 1:45 pm
It sure is a lot of “if’s”
IF I got a dollar for every if….
January 5th, 2019 at 3:37 pm
If you people want Licht fired but want Arians (I do), you’re complete idiots. Only reason Arians is even dipping his toe into the Tampa Bay is because he knows Jason.
January 5th, 2019 at 3:48 pm
DB55
“I don’t know why Bobo can’t fill the role of speed receiver. The kid gets open, makes plays and is by far or best return guy on the team. You can always draft or trade for a 4.3 guy but is it necessary?”
This is true. He’s been the second speed receiver behind DJax so he wasn’t used a lot. And a good offensive coaching staff could likely help him become better in every way (hands, routes, etc…) He has definitly been showing off his return skills toward the end of the year.
January 5th, 2019 at 4:18 pm
@DB55
I agree with you. 2019 could be Bobo’s breakout year.
January 5th, 2019 at 4:28 pm
SOEbuc … You state that as fact (Arians coming here ONLY because he knows Licht) but I kida doubt that’s the case (although it may be ONE of the reasons he’d come here, IF in fact he does). He had some pretty serious health issues during his last couple years in Arizona which undoubtedly influenced his decision to ‘retire’ BUT I kinda doubt he REALLY wanted to completely ‘retire’. He obviously loves the game & folks like that don’t walk away easily.
Coaching the Bucs, for even just a couple years, may be just what Arians wants … chance to turn around a stumbling organization, and keep his hand in football even beyond that as the future patriarch of the Bucs turnaround. He could name his follow-on position here, and be real close to his retirement home (in Georgia) in the process.
Besides that, I’d bet that Bruce Arians would be calling the shots about who to retain, who to draft, who to pick up in FA, etc. And he knows that Jason Licht wouldn’t fight him on it. If Arians signs on, we just picked up our version of Bill Belicheck (President of Football Ops, GM & HC all rolled into one). And at this point, that’s not a bad thing at all given the hot mess we find ourselves in.
January 5th, 2019 at 7:19 pm
If the Bucs are willing to pay lazy ass D. Smith 12 to 14 mil & Jensen 10 mil but don’t think Hump is worth more than 6 they are dumber than I thought.