DJax, Jameis And Bucco Bruce
January 16th, 2019
Motive behind message?
Last week on NFL Total Access, seen on NFL Network, there was discussion on new Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians and how he might affect the status of malcontent wide receiver DeSean Jackson.
In the video below is an interview Arians conducted with Lindsay Rhodes. Afterwards, former NFL players James Jones and Willie McGinest discuss the ramifications of Arians coming on board the Bucs’ ship for DJax and America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
McGinest, who admitted he has a relationship with DJax, stuck up for his guy and seemed to lay all the blame on Jameis for the famous lack of chemistry between him and DJax, who McGinest claims digs Bucco Bruce.
“He loves Bruce Arians,” McGinest said. “He thinks he has one of the most productive offenses. He loves his style. He loves how he communicates and loves how the players gravitate to him.”
Now Saturday morning we learned from Ian Rapoport, also of NFL Network, that Arians is trying to reach DJax and woo him for next season, so Rapoport claims. After allegations surfaced of DJax being a major cancer, just on face value it appears DJax is done in Tampa Bay. The Bucs can release Jackson and his $10 million salary without financial penalties.
Simply put, Joe is pretty sure DJax loves that $10 million more than he loves Arians, the Bucs or Jameis. If Jackson is cut, he may have a hard time finding a team willing to cut him a $10 million check.
Perhaps he should have thought about that before asking to be traded?
Joe knows Arians is trying to reach out to all players. This is common. Most new coaches do that. “Hey, Cam Brate, how you doing? This is Bruce Arians. You ready to f’ up the Falcons? We’re going to light their arses up!” That sort of thing.
Whether Arians is trying to sweet talk DJax into wanting to stay, Joe has no information on that other than what Rapoport reported.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:03 am
DJax…knows all the balls in practice Jamyth misses on…..it ain’t just Sundays…DJax is thinking he could be playing on a team this Sunday or last if he was traded…IMO Bucs should have traded him when his value was HIGH…another Jason Blunder….
January 16th, 2019 at 11:04 am
I vote KEEP MeJax and assign him just two tasks:
1) Return punts;
2) Replace Grimes to cover #1 receivers man-to-man.
Or would that be malcontent to malcontent.
Perfect use of talent.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:07 am
Djax and soured locker rooms go hand in hand.
He’s a talented guy with a horrible non team attitude.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:08 am
screw djax….we have too many cooks in the kitchen as it is(#weapons4winston)…..
i hope bruce uses a ton of 2 TE sets and runs the ball…..i’d rather resign hump and develop bobo or watson then deal with djax and his BS….
1 bad game or 1 bad practice and we’ll have to deal with his BS all season along with paying him 10mil…..
no thanks….
#REALIST KNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
January 16th, 2019 at 11:08 am
Bruce said AB is a little too diva for him. Well what is DJax!? This is for trade value only. HEs gone
January 16th, 2019 at 11:11 am
This wouldn’t be an issue if Jameis could hit the guy on a deep route.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:12 am
Might be done before he starts with Jameis on board and god forbid, DJAX and Marshmallow McCoy.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:12 am
Course DJax lays the blame on Jameis, if he didn’t he’d have to take responsibility for his own lack of effort on Jameis’s deep ball attempts. I sincerely hope Licht gets rid of that overrated Diva.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:13 am
BuccYa Says:
January 16th, 2019 at 11:11 am
This wouldn’t be an issue if Jameis could hit the guy on a deep route.
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are you saying DJax would share some of his bling with Jamyth at the post game presser ?
January 16th, 2019 at 11:15 am
I hope next year at this time we’ll be too busy talking about our next opponent than worrying about this BS.
I think BA and Djax will get along get bc Real always recognizes real. Whether that changes djax effort and/or attitude remains to be seen.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:16 am
The three pillars of Buccanneers football: Turnovers, Malcontents and Soft Linemen…
January 16th, 2019 at 11:17 am
Let him go. . . we need the money for other players
Bobo is much cheaper
January 16th, 2019 at 11:18 am
F Djax.
I’ve never seen a player pout like he did after what was at that point the best team win of the entire season. I don’t care if we threw 20 sh1tty inaccurate balls at him. We had a great team win and that’s the whole f*cking point dude. To win. It was a beautiful dominant victory in which we didn’t need him to make a play.
How the f are you thinking so selfishly in that moment?
Also he was criticizing the offensive system in that tweet.
I hope BA is just trying to get any trade value for him.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:22 am
Lately I’ve been debating the value of Brate. If we wanted to follow the Rams / Chiefs mold, we’d basically run every play out of 3 WR 1 TE formations.
WR-ME
WR-Godwin
WR-Hump or Wilson
TE-Howard
That’s also what Atlanta did the year they had the #1 scoring offense. They ran everything out of the same set. Their whole playbook basically but with slight wrinkles to everything.
That way the offense could operate like a clock while also making slight adjustments to the defense. I.e. changing route depths / route concepts mid game. The defense is less tipped to run/pass or what is going to happen since they seen the same pre-snap look every time.
So IMO – that seems like a possible direction to go. And 2 TE sets in the red zone that we can still run/pass out of with ease.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:33 am
“Agree with lc
We have enough recievrs and auclair is better blocker than brate and can catch when needed
All this offence needs is oline and 3 down run/rec running. Back”
Kobe Faker
January 16th, 2019 at 11:34 am
Love to see him traded for a player in return. I do think once the “evaluations” are completed we will be a one-gap 3-4 defense so we could use a another DT.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:43 am
joe
the organization has just as much responsibility for the players turning into malcontents as the player yet you give a free pass to ownership when we have nearly two decades of circus-like incidents. Not to mention the failure and regression from both players and coaches who come to Tampa. I know personal responsibility is outlawed thought process now but personal responsibly is a two-way street and glazers need to take responsibility for the atmosphere and environment of their business which closely resembles a circus rather than a competitive NFL franchise.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:56 am
Joe I love your optimism when it comes to the Bucs, but this jackazz organization run by morons should have traded DJax at the deadline and probably could have gotten a 3rd rounder ? Yet they kept selling the “ we are still a playoff team “? That’s such a slap in the face and just a true reflection of the lack leadership by this clown Licht and others that have no clue how to run an organization and just look at the Bolts as a example of how to. The only people I wouldn’t have on the trading block would be OJ, Beckwith, and Godwin. I love Mike, but pretty sure we could maybe get a first or second for him ? Stinks that Buc fans think next year is going to be a playoff team, I pray for you and the let down again. They don’t know how to draft and maybe BA can show Licht aka draft a PK in the 2nd round how to really assess talent. He will only be here maybe 3 years, but tired of the excuses for Licht because he deserves to be a GM like R Kelly need to run a playground? He must have juicy info on the Glazers boys because how is this clown still around
January 16th, 2019 at 11:56 am
There are much cheaper options for a guy who runs quick down the field and catches 1 TD a year
January 16th, 2019 at 12:03 pm
How soon can we cut Djax….because I am sure getting tired of these constant reruns regarding his bad attitude…..although it is nice to have someone who can stretch the field, I think his importance is greatly overstated.
January 16th, 2019 at 12:04 pm
The only issue with Brate is that I believe he’ll count against our cap no matter what. We’d have to move him in a trade. If we cut him it wouldn’t free up $$.
It’d be a shocking move. Send him for like a 6th. But I could live with it. $7 million is a lot for a backup TE that has subpar athleticism. He dropped balls last year which was his #1 quality.
Between McCoy/Brate/Grimes/Djax – if they all came off the books (which Grimes will) – that’s $40 million alone. You could sign a shut down CB & Leveon Bell. Or a shut down CB, a RG, and a RT. Or CB/S/RG.
Either way I’d rather reallocate those resources. Imagine swaping those 4 dudes for Leveon Bell and a shut down CB. Then you draft McCOy’s replacement at 5. A DE or OG in round 3 / 4 to plug RG and add pass rush help. OT in round 4 on top of the guys we’ve been developing like Leidke or whatever.
LT-Smith
LG-Marpet
C-Jensen
RG-R2 draft pick
RT-Dotson/R4 draft pick/Cappa/etc
RB-Leveon Bell/Barber/Rojo/later round draft pick
WR-ME, Godwin, Hump, Bobo, Watson
TE-Howard/Auclair/whoever – maybe draft pick late
DE-JPP / Carl Nassib / round 2 or round 3 DE pick / whoever BA wants after that
DT-Vita Vea / #5 draft pick / Allen / Unrein
Outside CB-expensive FA / Calrton Davis / Ryan Smith / Vernon Hargreaves
Inside CB – Vernon Hargreaves / Javien Elliot / MJ Stewart
LBs-Kwon/Alexander/Beckwith/later round draft pick
S-Justin Evans/ Jordan Whitehead.
O-line fixed.
Run game fixed.
Front 7 rebuilt (not all the way but mostly).
Secondary upgraded.
January 16th, 2019 at 12:07 pm
people won’t trade for a player you don’t appear to value. this is the bucs manufacturing value. they can play this game all the way through august if they want to, but i’m sure they’d like to just dump him on a west coast team for a day 2 pick this spring if they can.
the bucs have plenty of guys to eat up targets and just need one really fast dude that will sprint down the field 10 times a game without complaining about his role. the dollars are better spend protecting the QB or strengthening the defense
January 16th, 2019 at 12:10 pm
I find it interesting that Arians came out and said he wouldn’t want Antonio Brown on our team because he’s a Diva. Was he sending a message to DJAX that if you’re going to stay here you better not pull that crap?
January 16th, 2019 at 12:12 pm
Question. Do the Bucs have to release Jackson before the start of the NFL year in March to void guaranteed money?
January 16th, 2019 at 12:15 pm
please get rid of his sorry arse
January 16th, 2019 at 12:15 pm
Arians loves having two te’s historically.
Don’t think Brate’s going anywhere (which I support).
January 16th, 2019 at 12:23 pm
Just imagine if Jameis was accurate to DJAX?
This offense would’ve been unstoppable in the pass game
Accuracy and decision making are the two most important QB attributes too bad Jameis has neither
January 16th, 2019 at 12:40 pm
i cant TRUST djax because hes not LOYAL he turned his back on this organization mid season and I will never RESPECT him for that
January 16th, 2019 at 12:41 pm
“You know we are really freakin tired of being disparaged and humiliated with such a lousy comparison. It’s downright insulting.”
– The Circus
January 16th, 2019 at 12:51 pm
LC
not bad….
i would add urein and gholston to your list to free up more $$$$….
but i would rather have a DE & bell vs CB & bell…..
but either way could work….that shut down CB could force the qb to hold the ball a split second longer or that DE could force the qb to throw the ball a split second too soon….
i would love for GMC to restructure that way we can draft his replacement and have him develop and not count on him to produce 7sacks as a rookie…..lol….
but the 1 replacement we have to find is dotson’s…lol….how much does he have left in the tank?…lol….
#REALIST KNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
January 16th, 2019 at 12:52 pm
LC
not bad….
i would add urein and gholston to your list to free up more $$$$….
but i would rather have a DE & bell vs CB & bell…..
but either way could work….that shut down CB could force the qb to hold the ball a split second longer or that DE could force the qb to throw the ball a split second too soon….
i would love for GMC to restructure that way we can draft his replacement and have him develop and not count on him to produce 7sacks as a rookie…..lol….
but the 1 replacement we have to find is dotson’s…lol….how much does he have left in the tank?…lol….
#REALIST KNOWSNOTHING!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
January 16th, 2019 at 1:03 pm
They should consider doing what McVey does with Goff in LA. Get to the line early, let the coaches take a look at the defense and help Jameis decide the first read based on the defensive look. Couldn’t hurt
January 16th, 2019 at 1:14 pm
@ Altered
That’s what I’m saying! If he could hit him on the deep route, Djax wouldn’t have been asking for a trade. Why would he? He would be catching TDs clearing 1000 yrd season and making all his incentive money.
January 16th, 2019 at 1:24 pm
Yucfan u lost us all at “trade Mike Evans” who trades a top five reciever with none of the diva BS 🤦♂️🤷♂️
January 16th, 2019 at 1:34 pm
“We dont have that much money and need to cut cut cut
how are we paying Kwon and Dsmith…hump? are there replacements coming in for free?
we need 3 top end FAs..
We dont need djax and brate”
Kobe Faker
January 16th, 2019 at 1:34 pm
MeJax gotta go!! Lord with all of this MeJax click bait. Get rid of him!
January 16th, 2019 at 1:34 pm
Wow, some of you folks are brutal today. We’ve already got some massive holes to fill & some now want to get rid of players who actually have done pretty well over their careers. Cutting them prematurely would leave even more gaping holes to fill. How is that a productive strategy for moving forward?
Coach Arians MAY ultimately cut or trade some of the players folks are talking about, but there’s plenty of time to make decisions like that. And in some cases a player’s contract (salary?) will determine his fate … we can’t afford everyone we’d like to have on the roster so ‘compromises’ will surely be required.
Of the players under contract already for 2019, I don’t see GMC being worth $13 mil, or DJax being worth $10 mil, or Curry being worth $8 mil, or Brate being worth $7 mil. Several others are getting paid less than that but still didn’t show me very much last year (Gholston, Unrein for instance). BUT … I certainly don’t ‘blame’ Coach Arians for those contracts (he wasn’t here?), nor do I ‘blame’ the players for accepting the money (tend to think most of us would done a Happy Dance for contracts like that too). Just in those 4 players mentioned that’s $38 mil that could be re-allocated to meet other NEEDS IF we drafted a DT & DE (part of that money could be used to re-sign Hump for instance). Personal preference however would be to simply re-negotiate those contracts IF Coach Arians really does want to keep those players on the team. If not, bye bye.
January 16th, 2019 at 1:37 pm
Fire Arians! Fire LICHT! Only Jameis can save this team…..
January 16th, 2019 at 1:41 pm
Forget DJax and Antonio Brown. We need no trouble.
January 16th, 2019 at 1:52 pm
Nooo! This guy has been a b!tch in the locker room his entire career and only cares about his stats to get chip and dip commercials. He’ll still be a menace whether Arians is tough or not. Probably a bigger one. WE HAVE GODWIN WE DON’T NEED TO PAY A SECOND #2 WR THAT’S IN HIS 30’S $10 MILLION WHEN WE HAVE NO CAP! Hoping this is smoke for a trade.
January 16th, 2019 at 2:04 pm
MeSean averaged 3.8 catches per game for his career. What do we hear from the idiot Buc fans? If only Winston could hit DJax on a long pass. He averages about 2 long TD’s a season and under 5 total TD’s per season. This has to be the stupidest fan base in the country bar none. MeSean is not consistent enough to warrant another pay check. Maybe that’s why Licht didn’t trade him. Because if he’s cut no one will pay him 10 mil a year. That’s how you punish a blinger locker room cancer.
January 16th, 2019 at 2:13 pm
“We have no problems attacking the intermittent to deep pass plays
we need to loosen the 1st 15 yards by getting a 3 down duel threat running back
look at the remaining 4 teams. Saints,kc,pats and rams
heavy pass game from the running backs
put the linebackers defending the pass to setup the deep passing game
running draws and pass action works great with a successful screen game from the runningbacks
charles sims was average, but he would have had a career year catching from the LOS with all our recievers”
Kobe Faker
January 16th, 2019 at 2:19 pm
To let everyone know it’s not going to be so easy trading Brate after a sh!tty year after a huge contract was signed. Be Brate+average player for one above average player or two 3-5 pick. Hard to negotiate. Send him with Hump to the Pats. He can take over for Gronk and win multiple Super Bowls until Brady decides to retire at 106.
January 16th, 2019 at 2:22 pm
So many idiots around here.
Despite the many misses, Jameis hit Djax plenty of times in stride downfield. He also threw many passes that any other receiver in the NFL would make an effort to catch, where as Djax would make no effort at all.
And on top of that, Jameis had no problem hitting Evans, Howard, Brate, Hump and Godwin on plenty of deep passes. Djax was the only one who it was inconsistent with, so it must all be Jameis’ fault, amiright?
January 16th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
Joe doesn’t like Desean The Great Jackson being a person who is dissatisfied and rebellious (or malcontent as Joe likes to put it) with Bucs losing culture
But Joe liked Gerald Big Fat Softie McCoy being a happy and giggly with Bucs losing culture.
Backwards as ever huh Joe?
January 16th, 2019 at 2:42 pm
Kobe Faker
“we need to loosen the 1st 15 yards by getting a 3 down duel threat running back.”
Barber had a great year of check down catches and the screen didn’t exist in Koetter’s playbook. Jameis had the highest 3rd down conversions rate in the league. RB is last on the list of major priorities. We don’t even know what we could have in RoJo or Shaun Wilson yet. Get one of these older vet RB for cheap (AP last year for example) in FA that is going to help the run game if these sophomore RBs can’t come through.
January 16th, 2019 at 3:14 pm
D Jax wants to come back like Grimes wanted to come back. They both have the perfect sucker in Licht. Let’s hope the meathead learned his lessen with Grimes last year, I doubt it. Lets hope BA has more sense.
January 16th, 2019 at 3:28 pm
TGH- Getting to the line early and reading the defense became well known from P. Manning who got it from BA. McVay isn’t doing anything new he’s just putting different concepts together and executing them well.
Forgive me if you knew this and were joking. I watched that Rams game and thought the same thing. …The Bucs will be doing this soon.
January 16th, 2019 at 3:50 pm
If BA can get Jameis to put more air on his deep ball allowing the receiver to run under it we’ll see an increase in those completions. I still say get rid of Jackson and if someone over pays for Hump (which will probably happen) hopefully Bobo or Watson can become as good which would be great since both are faster and more athletic anyway.
January 16th, 2019 at 4:52 pm
lokog
glazers gave up on bucfan the minute the last whistle blew on super bowl victory. team has not won a single meaningful game sense.
January 16th, 2019 at 4:56 pm
One of my favorite GM’s Chris Ballard of Indy.
Like me Ballard believes character is critical and he doesn’t want ANY question marks in that area on his team. In his presser that ran for over an hour on Monday he was asked about possible FA’s or trades with the usual suspects coming up.
Leveon Bell, Antonio Brown, Suh…Ballard took a total pass on all of them. And in every case, with almost every sentence Ballard uttered for nearly an hour on Monday, he made clear: Character isn’t just … something….It’s everything.
As long as Ballard is running the show, the Colts will never bring in a locker-room risk just because the guy can play a little football. Not even if the guy can play a lot of football. Ballard believes character wins on the field.
BTW as most of you know the Colts have the most cap money of any team and that’s coming after reaching the playoffs and having a franchise QB already under contract.
January 16th, 2019 at 5:20 pm
DJax is a businessman
Everywhere he’s been, the year before a contract year , he had a down year.
He would be play for a new contract during 2019 season and would ball out,
Bank on it
January 16th, 2019 at 6:36 pm
“St Pete
Ballard killed it on the draft last few years
agree with you that he likes team unselfish players…i think he is going to make a run on humphries
marlon mack was a steal…
building thru the draft
not sure if he is going to go heavy in the FA this year or next
plugging 3 positions every year thru the draft…adds up and completes a whole team
we have been trying to fill the #1 corner, running back, pass rusher position for years…
cant win that way
“you need foresight not a huge forehead(Gump)”
Kobe Faker
January 16th, 2019 at 6:53 pm
So Kobe just curious…are you a character guy or would you be happy with Bell and Brown.
Ironically Brown lasted until the sixth round. Hard to imagine a player of his talent lasting that long. Then again he did play at Central Michigan but in todays scouting world hard to slip through even at a small college. He also had a mediocre combine.
But I’ve read on plenty of sites that the real problem was his head…even back in college days.
BTW Kobe…how did you get a reputation as a troll? I certainly disagree with you plenty but I also agree with some of your stuff…but I haven’t noticed you trolling us.
January 16th, 2019 at 7:14 pm
St Pete
If character is only what matters whu do the pats have most rings yet so many bad characters based on bucs standards. Talent wins… teams that can manage personalities and talent are constantly winners. Bucs worry about pos choir boy quitters like cancer93 has gotten glazers nothing but basement titles and circus like environment. This is sports entertainment not Nobel peace prize tryouts nor is it the NFL’s responsibility to provide role models for freeloading absentee baby makers.
January 16th, 2019 at 11:27 pm
It’s a shame that Jameis can’t seem to hit DJax in stride with any regularity, cause a few of those Fitz to DJax bombs were absolute beauty. I realize there’s a lot of things to weigh with the situation (salary/locker room/chemistry with the starting QB), but by Jesus who here can argue that watching DJax rip the Saints defenders a new one right outta the gate on that first offensive play/TD bomb last season wasn’t entertaining football at it’s finest! Character concerns aside DJax has a solid skill set coupled with elite speed that is tough to let walk out the door unless you’ve explored all options and just can’t make the situation work. Glad to hear BA is trying to reach out to him to see where things are at.