“Continuity”
January 2nd, 2019
Win and you stay.
Joe is getting comments on this here site, and some on Twitter, bemoaning the fact the Bucs like to change coaches quickly.
They trot out this tired word “continuity,” as if having the same rotten people in their jobs will lead to the Bucs eventually lucking into a seven-win season.
Joe cannot imagine a worse choice.
Let’s just take a few looks at the coaches who Team Glazer tossed off the pirate ship since Chucky was jettisoned.
Raheem Morris: The last coach in the post-Chucky era to win at least 10 games in a season. Morris was relieved of his duties after the Bucs posted a 4-12 season, losing 10 straight to close out 2011. That’s the year after the Bucs were robbed of a playoff berth in 2010 by going 10-6. Morris has yet to be hired as a coordinator anywhere. He has worked for the Redskins and Dixie Chicks.
Greg Schiano: After taking a year off while collecting Team Glazer loot, Schiano has since been the defensive coordinator at The Ohio State. Last year he had a tentative agreement to take over the football program at Tennessee but backed away due to fan unrest. Schiano came aboard with the Bucs to clean up a locker room with many discipline problems. Schiano did what he was hired to do but he forgot that winning was part of his job description.
Lovie Smith: In the midst of totally destroying a once proud Big Ten program at the University of Illinois, Lovie has won four B1G conference games in three seasons. Lovie’s defense gave up 60 points three times this year including a 63-0 home loss to Iowa. It will likely take a decade to clean up his mess unless the Illini find a miracle worker. Instead, Lovie miraculously got a two-year extension! And people wonder why the State of Illinois is broke? Lovie’s days with Bucs will be remembered by horrid defenses and braindead player personnel moves that even embarrassed the homeless man who advises Browns owner Jim Haslam on draft picks.
What exactly have Morris, Schiano and Lovie done to show anyone that Team Glazer was too quick to pull the trigger? If anything, the Schiano and Lovie hires add fuel to the fire that Team Glazer has a nasty habit of selecting the wrong men.
As for continuity with losing coaches, this theory would be a revelation to George Steinbrenner. The late owner of the Yankees regularly flipped managers until he found the right guy. He would change managers more often than some folks changed bedsheets.
Only until a manager proved he could win did Steinbrenner keep the guy, and Steinbrenner built one of the greatest powerhouse sports programs in history.
Hall of Fame head coach Bill Walsh? He was hired by the 49ers after three consecutive one-year-and-done head coaches.
It makes no sense to keep a guy just for the helluva it and watch someone run a program into the ground.
January 2nd, 2019 at 9:35 am
All rutty roads lead back to this trio
January 2nd, 2019 at 9:37 am
Koetter sucks and did less with more. He had better receivers, better defensive players and he had a better quarterback but hey people think he was so good because he put up all those yards that’s just great for those reading the stats. Koetter was a worse coach than all of them and coached scared in games.
January 2nd, 2019 at 9:43 am
I am NOT SURE Licht is the right man to conduct this coaching search. The HC and GM are the two most important pieces of the puzzle. They are the CEO’s of your team!! I don’t see what Licht has done has proven he knows what he is doing. I would ask someone like Bill Polian to give some input . Whatever he would charge, it might just be worth it. He has built winners where ever he has been. Bill Parcells is another one that knows how to build a winner. I’m sure he would do some consulting for the right price. Turn over in the HC is NOT a good thing. This means the people making the final decisions on the hiring need to do a MUCH BETTER!!!
January 2nd, 2019 at 9:55 am
Marvin Lewis is what continuity gets you. Continually mediocre.
January 2nd, 2019 at 9:57 am
Raises two questions: Is continually changing coaches a good idea, AND are the Glazers any good at selecting a new coach?
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:03 am
joe
why continue to bash lovie?……lol…..
illinois was once a proud program?…lol..when?….
since 1997 they have only had 5 winning season….lol….they havent been a proud program since the 80’s….the early 80’s at that…..
bash lovie all you want but he’ll be remembered for finishing his final season 6-11…..dirk will be remembered for going 5-11 back to back years with more talent!!!!
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!!!….#ADIOSDIRK!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!!
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:03 am
helluvit
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:05 am
“Bash” a pathetic coach? Is that even possible?
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:16 am
Yeah Lovie was almost as bad as it could get…. most remembered for horrible personnel decisions and trying to sell the city on winning with McClown at QB and the infamous Mike Jenkins over Darelle Revis.
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:18 am
On the flip side…The Glazers are not afraid to admit mistakes & move forward!
It’s all about getting the right people on the bus…(organization / coaching staff / players ).
With an capable driver & people in the right seats…No matter how long the ride, it’s an enjoyable one.
If you have an inexperienced driver & a couple knuckleheads getting rowdy in the back, a drive around the block is a frustrating hassle.
I have no qualms with the Glazers tossing knuckleheads off the bus & continuing to look for the right driver to take Tampa to their final destination..(Play-offs/SB run).
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:18 am
Wow who survives 63-0? Then gets extended? Dude must cast a serious spell…. Mentored Licht how to manipulate very well.
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:32 am
who’s more pathetic?….the coach who went 6-10 in his final year or the coach that went 5-11 with more talent?…..
bashing a pathetic coach in dirk, is impossible with you you i see….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!!!….#ADIOSDIRK!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!!
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:43 am
theodore Says
“Marvin Lewis is what continuity gets you. Continually mediocre.”
He wasn’t great, but only six losing seasons in 16 years is not mediocre.
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:47 am
Licht = 27-53
Winston = 21-33
Since Malcolm’s Stroke = 77 – 131
New HC = 0-0 (but he will have to coach Licht’s picks)
The Glazier kids are part of the problem.
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:51 am
I am waiting to see what the Glazers do with this hire. We all know the last 4 hires were bad. If they don’t get it right this time they need to bring in a good NFL guy to help right the ship. Take a look at what Dorsey has done in Cleveland. Dacades of losing there and now they look like contenders. As I’ve stated at least 5 times on this site, I thought they wold go with Arians if at all possible ( didn’t know Arians was tied to a contract with Arizona at the time. ) but I thought they would go that route and Arians would bring in 2 good coordinators in which 1 would take over once he retired being that he is 66 years old
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:53 am
Let’s be honest here:
Raheem Morris got ten wings on the first and last easy schedule in a 30 year period. He got his years in…so he should not even be on this list.
Greg Schiano was on his way to turning things around…until the media completely started sabotaging him and the MRSA thing came up. He should have gotten at least three years to fix things, especially after all the things which happened that were completely out of his control…such as Josh Freeman’s agent leaking Freeman’s medical information and letting Schiano get blamed for it.
Lovie Smith deserved to be fired, but aside from that, in order to keep Koetter, the Bucs had to promote him.
The issue is a team should normally give a coach at least 3 years to fulfill a vision. The only exceptions to that are:
The Coach completely loses the locker room.
The Coach does something to make the organization look bad (such as a racist comment, drunk driving, etc).
In Lovie’s case, he had to go, but the issue in Tampa was that only giving two years was becoming a pattern…and no good coach worth his salt is going to commit to a job in which he knows he won’t be given enough time to make things right.
Thankfully, the Glazers did not listen to fans last year and kept Koetter another year. Some fans may not have liked it, and some will point at the losing season as proof that it was a bad idea…however, at least during this coaching search, candidates won’t have to look at 3 coaches in a row being fired after 2 years.
January 2nd, 2019 at 11:06 am
“Schiano came aboard with the Bucs to clean up a locker room with many discipline problems. Schiano did what he was hired to do but he forgot that winning was part of his job description.”
This made me laugh out loud. Nicely put ….
January 2nd, 2019 at 11:21 am
Sell the team please….or at east 51%.please
January 2nd, 2019 at 11:24 am
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
January 2nd, 2019 at 10:43 am
theodore Says
“Marvin Lewis is what continuity gets you. Continually mediocre.”
He wasn’t great, but only six losing seasons in 16 years is not mediocre.
^^^Hated we missed out on him back in 2005 ish or whenever it was. He would have continued Bucs defensive dominance but we got a superbowl so all good with me. To get him here now would be amazing for Jameis, he’d have to do much less as the defense would shore up RIGHT QUICK. Lewis is great with ahole, me-first players too which the league is full of now. Lewis would excel here. A great fit.
January 2nd, 2019 at 11:26 am
There are ONLY 32 HC jobs in the NFL. 8 are open this year. NOBODY will look at the Bucs at a “bad job”.
They may consider some teams as better opportunities but the Bucs will have a giant selection.
Let’s just hope they make the right choice.
January 2nd, 2019 at 11:36 am
This is one of the only times one gets to see the Glazers – when Joe posts their picture.
Oh yeah, the other time is when they hire a coach.
Not so much when they fire a coach.
January 2nd, 2019 at 2:20 pm
The elephant in the room is why they were here in the first place.
January 2nd, 2019 at 2:22 pm
Lol Why were Morris, Schiano and Lovie here in the first place
Oh yeah! It’s because the glazers hired them
January 2nd, 2019 at 2:24 pm
Dirk was definitely the cream of that crop……but no one can hold it together with a leadership vacuum at the very top (except for maybe Gruden)
January 2nd, 2019 at 2:26 pm
That’s why the more intelligent commenters have been calling for CEO of Football Operations to fill that void…..but the glazers are scared to delegate that much power so we’ll see more of the same the next few years
January 2nd, 2019 at 4:38 pm
The Glazers let the media dictate how they run the club.
January 2nd, 2019 at 7:01 pm
Your right on this joe , what gets me is the “national” guys talking about Lovie shouldn’t have been fired , come on , do they even follow the team. He shouldn’t have been hired
January 2nd, 2019 at 7:02 pm
Ohh and they talk about the glazers being cheap that bugs me too