Yahoo!: Why Koetter Should Be Fired
December 28th, 2018
Bucs fans, some of them, have reasons they want to see a change in leadership with the Bucs.
For Joe, it’s always interesting to see what folks hundreds (thousands?) of miles away see and perceive. They look at the Bucs through a totally different prism and sometimes a faraway view can be more enlightening than one close to the scene.
Paylor Terez, one of the hardest-working NFL beat guys Joe has ever met, and Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports believe the first name announced for being removed from their current position come Black Monday should be Bucs coach Dirk Koetter.
Both make very compelling cases, with different rationales, for why the Bucs are stuck in a bad rut with Koetter as head coach.
You can view clips of their podcast in the Twitter below (those wishing to listen to their pod in full can use the link included in the video).
With #BlackMonday around the corner, which #NFL head coach is getting the axe first: Dirk Koetter, Doug Marrone, or someone else?@TerezPaylor & @CharlesRobinson discuss 🎙
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— Yahoo Sports NFL (@YahooSportsNFL) December 27, 2018
December 28th, 2018 at 12:56 am
idiots just piling on. They have no insight whatsoever
December 28th, 2018 at 12:59 am
Dirk Koetter
Vance Joseph
Steve Wilks
Those are the 3 that will get it first
December 28th, 2018 at 1:04 am
I read this story yesterday morning.
December 28th, 2018 at 2:29 am
Plus Jean, don’t you find it ironic how a first year QB like Mahomes can win games despite their terrible defense? The excuses are nauseating. Anyone care to guess what next years record will be? I bet we have more losses than wins. I bet it will mirror Jameis Winston’s win/loss record to date. 5/10
December 28th, 2018 at 3:19 am
More enlightening? Hardest working? After all those hard working efforts, the best he’s got (actually, the only thing he’s got) is “You get fired when you take a guy no.1 overall and it just doesn’t work.”
Really Joe? That’s an enlightened, hard-worked perspective from a hundred or so miles away?
I could take either side of the subject (Koetter should stay or he should go) and give you a better case, regardless of side. I guess I t must be because I’m 2,508 miles away from the Raymond James living here in Southern Cal?
December 28th, 2018 at 6:37 am
I’ll say the same thing I’ve said multiple times. Why would anyone have expected this coach to suddenly start winning. Other than that streak of wins in mid 2016 he’s been way below average. When a coach has a decent year one and tanks in year two unless something fundamentally changes why would anyone expect year three to be better. Same coach same G.M same quarterback same result. This was obvious to all of us who were so frustrated they brought Dirk back knowing it was just a wasted year. Well here we sit and honestly. So yes fire him Monday Team Glazer you only a year late.
December 28th, 2018 at 7:11 am
DK is a poor mans Sam Wyche
December 28th, 2018 at 7:38 am
Stop with the bitching and kvetching already. Just fire the guy and clean house
December 28th, 2018 at 7:46 am
As a stand-alone issue, Koetter will definitely be on the list. But….
This Charles Robinson guy is a hack…always has been. Just like about anyone at BleacherReport too. These supposed sports journalists from these supplemental (useless) sites are just opinion heaadcases, but the thing is, that no one gives a d*mn, about their opinions, because these folks have never been in the breaking news business, likely if not totally ever played the game itself professionally that they’re talking about, or have achieved any prior awards from sports journalists accredited organizations of any kind. Translation….hacks.
Let’s stick with the actual breaking news folks, the reputable side of former NFL employees, and those that have earned their stripes by being immersed in the NFL game first-hand.
Glazers please go get JOHN Harbaugh!!
December 28th, 2018 at 8:04 am
Well it was the obvious truth that Winston is why he got the job and should have put more into developing him. Even the quarterback coach is an unknown guy. The reason this season sucked is Koetter didn’t upgrade his staff. Should have gotten rid of Mike Smith. Should have been bringing guys to replace an underperforming right guard. Should have had more balls dealing with d jack should be a better play caller. Just should have been better. Head coach makes team decisions and his sucked so it doesn’t matter about the offensive output since it’s only one aspect of the team he runs. Bye dirk you will not be missed
December 28th, 2018 at 8:06 am
Jameis should be “fired/let go”…he is the common thread running thru OBP
December 28th, 2018 at 8:07 am
I am with others in saying go a head and fire Koetter. I like Koetter as a OC but he has fail as a H.C. this team haven’t developed Winston the OL has regressed. The DBS are just terrible even B Grimes this year and to me this is a coach who is not coaching the entire team but just coaching 1 area
December 28th, 2018 at 8:51 am
Absent a Harbaugh or Peterson, I don’t see a candidate that is better than what we have currently. Richards “May” be better, but nobody knows for sure. If we can’t bag a Harbaugh or Peterson, Licht is toast but we keep Koetter. No matter how much he may deserve the ax, you don’t fire unless you can hire better.
December 28th, 2018 at 8:54 am
dirk shouldve been fired right after the redskins game…..500+ yards and 3points….
plus he hasnt done his job which was developing winston…..
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
December 28th, 2018 at 9:37 am
Mahomes has a great offensive line, great special teams and a running game in Kansas City.
The Bucs have an awful offensive line, terrible special teams and no running game to go along with that bad defense.
December 28th, 2018 at 9:41 am
AlteredEgo Says:
“Jameis should be “fired/let go”…he is the common thread running thru OBP”
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And when JW is gone, Altered…. and we go 5-11 for the next 5 seasons…
Who will you blame then?
It will probably still be JW’s fault, right?
December 28th, 2018 at 10:05 am
I’LL be so glad when the final word comes down on Koetter. Just think if there was a good chance you were going to lose your job and thousands of critics ridiculed you on a daily basis, fans that simply sit around and think up cute or catchy ways to express their animosities toward you how bad that might feel. I am ambivalent whether to keep him of not. I certainly have reservations about 2YR or 3 YR chances to turn around a team that may have many years of losing on its resume. So many external factors beyond your control determine your destiny. The only bright spot is many coaches and players start out with problems and grow into success stories or visa versa, or a change to a different team affects their ability to win. Finally they must realize fans are cruel and filter their hate for other aspects of their life through a coach or player. I think for the most part Coaches are a collection of good, honest, family men who often wind up in precarious circumstances where their perceived failure serves as an emotional outlet for a public starved for some form of good entertainment.
December 28th, 2018 at 10:30 am
Here ye, here ye Bucs fans….
First, I’m ALL for any Buc fan out here pining for “their guy” as a possible replacement as Head Coach for the Bucs in 2019.
Having said that….for any and ALL who pine for this Kris Richard at Dallas….please EXPLAIN and take a look at why Seattle let him walk after all those years there with such supposed success in crafting the “Legion of Boom” to a large degree. Seattle is by far in John Schneider, one of the most respected front offices for the past decade, AND they happen to value running the ball and a strong suffocating defense as pillars to success!! WHY would that type of culture LET/push out the door, a guy like Kris Richard “walk”??!
Combined with, he’s not even the DC in Dallas now, Rod Marinelli is, and don’t even try and say, well he’s the DC in waiting!? C’mon, an ancient creature like Marinelli would have been gone in an instant in big D if Richard was really worth that, to demand leverage in having the DC title in Dallas.
The guy might be an empassioned, quality defensive position coach….but go LOOK INTO all that.
JOHN Harbaugh….whether somewhat difficult to acquire or not….now THAT’S a Head Coach. C’mon Glazers….please swing for the fences and allow JOHN Harbaugh, to put his stamp on the Bucs organization, allowing full control, that will get his attention!
December 28th, 2018 at 10:43 am
Low hanging fruit article… Joe does a better job.
December 28th, 2018 at 10:46 am
@martini
FANTASTIC post.
Every word was well expressed and thought provoking.
Thank you for that.
Dirk Koetter is a damn good man, and I really like him. I agree that it is tough to think of him hearing & seeing the things that he does on a daily basis, especially because (unlike other coaches) Dirk seems to be a man that does pay attention to what is said out there.
People these days tend to overlook the human element of all of the things that you discussed… towards coaches & players. I am sure you have seen it too, some of the awful things that are said and expressed to these people that have given their blood & sweat to this team & city for years.
I definitely do not overlook them. Your post is refreshing.
Thanks again, martinii.
December 28th, 2018 at 12:07 pm
stout
Kris Richard has had a huge impact on the Dallas Cowboys defense during his first season with the team. Overall, the group is playing like one of the league’s best units and Byron Jones is one example of how individual players are benefiting from his presence. he’s a PBer after looking like a bust…..DEVELOPMENT is something we havent had in a while….
While Richard is technically the secondary coach and passing game coordinator for the Cowboys, he’s also the co-defensive coordinator. Richard is influential in the defensive scheme, game plan, and personnel…..The Cowboys’ defense has looked different this year, and one big reason is Richard, WHO TOOK OVER PLAY CALLING duties from defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli. Richard joined the Cowboys this season after eight years in Seattle, where he not only adopted the aggressive and physical style of the Legion of Boom years, but earned valuable experience leading a group of strong-minded players…….
sounds like a DC to me…..and what was nagy in chicago before he became a HC….the OC in KC…..but andy reid calls the plays….so just like richard, nagy was a co-coordinator…..
in 2015 as the DC in seattle they were 1st in points allowed….
in 2016 they were 3rd…..
in 2017 they were 13th mainly because sherman,thomas,chancellor, bennett, cliff avirl were all hurt and missed at least 7games…..
this year dallas has the 4th best defense in the league compared to being 13th last year……
and you act as if pete fired kris because he was underachieving…..that is not true!!!…pete carroll fired 8 coaches last year…..
we need someone who wont piss off upper management and who’s message wont wear thin with players….harbaugh is a good coach but think about it…..with all the success he had in san fran the front office and players said NO THANKS…..that should tell you all you need to know about a coach who is suppose to be a leader of man…..
now explain why he not qualified be an HC…..and dont give me the “he’s not even a DC” BS….
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
December 28th, 2018 at 3:33 pm
Hey…@Bucboi….you got the wrong Harbaugh killer.
THIS GUY…only expresses his desire for JOHN Harbaugh, for the Bucs, not Jim who was in San Fran.
And it’s clear that you’re stuck on that Richard….dude.
December 29th, 2018 at 11:01 am
Time for Dirk Koetter to go. He had more than enough time to righ the ship. From the way he was saying his “goodbyes,” it’s a sign he doesn’t want to be there anymore. Who wants a head coach who would rather be “anywhere but here.”
It’s also time for Jason Licht to go. He’s in the category of Matt Millen.