Visions Of Nick Bosa
December 31st, 2018
Game-wrecker.
Joe experienced the full range of emotions last night.
First, Joe was depressed to hear about former Bucs Bit-O-Honey-snacking, Ozark-watching, yams-eating coach Dirk Koetter. No, Joe isn’t suggesting Koetter should not have received his walking papers. His teams the past two years woefully underperformed. Joe just feels bad for Koetter, but hey, he’s a rich man so no sense in going nuts here.
But when Joe learned after the Colts beat the Titans and all the day’s games were finished that the Bucs had the No. 5 pick, Joe was giddy as could be.
And then, as if Joe had a winning lottery ticket, he began to think of who the Bucs could buy with that No. 5 pick.
For Joe the answer is simple: Nick Bosa.
The Ohio State defensive end and brother of Joey Bosa is regarded as the top defensive end in the nation. Yes, despite the Bucs trading for Jason Pierre-Paul, who turns 30 tomorrow, they still need a defensive end.
The way the NFL is going with the pass, pass, pass league and no contact on receivers, the only way a team can play defense is to load up on the defensive line. If you cannot rush and bring the quarterback down, at least get in his face to make a rotten throw.
Bosa does just that and then some.
Every year Joe has guys for the Bucs to target. This year, it’s a defensive end. And he’s a Buckeye. Of late, soon-to-be-ex-Ohio State coach Urban Meyer has done his fair share of pumping out quality NFL talent.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:06 am
I doubt if Bosa will still be on the board at 3 not to mention 5. He definitely won’t make it past Chucky sitting at 4 after the Khalil Mack debacle.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:09 am
Won’t make it to #5 – very likely won’t make it past #1
When Jason Licht became the Bucs’ general manager, Tampa Bay was the worst team in the NFC South. Five years later, the Bucs are still the worst team in the South
December 31st, 2018 at 6:15 am
Buc’s would likely have their pick of QB’s at # 5 since the other 4 teams are mostly set at QB. Carr is the issue but Chucky doesn’t draft rookie QB’s willingly. But, of course, we need another year to see what we have in Winston.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:19 am
Actually, we are in a great position to trade #5 to a team that needs a QB…..we could use the extra pick to strengthen both lines.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:20 am
Bucs would have to trade up with Arizona or San Fran to have a chance at this guy and I bet the asking price will be high, something like what the Redskins had to trade to the Rams to get RG3 or what the Saints gave up to get Ricky Williams.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:21 am
Way to early recommendation:
Get the Giants, Jags, Dolphins, and Lions on the phone and drive up the price for the first QB off the board. As of now, this pick makes the most sense for the first QB to come off the board.
Worry about QB in the following year’s draft of picking high. If not, then that means the QB issue had most likely been resolved
December 31st, 2018 at 6:22 am
Joe,
Trade up to #1?
December 31st, 2018 at 6:26 am
Good point TBbucfan! The Bucs pick right ahead of the Giants and Jaguars who should be looking for a qb so perhaps they can trade down with someone and stockpile additional picks, even if they swapped with the Jags if Marrone has a chubby for the Ohio State qb or whoever else ends up at the top of this year’s qb class and the Bucs could probably pocket the Jags 1st and 2nd or 3rd rounder and still get someone that is high on their board at #7 or trade down even further to get more picks…….
December 31st, 2018 at 6:32 am
@FortMyetsDave…I think Ramsey and their 2nd and 5th would be a fair asking price. Thoughts?
December 31st, 2018 at 6:35 am
I agree NJBucsfan. I think Ramsey has worn out his welcome up in North FL. Perhaps the Bucs can ship Djax and or GMC to the Jags as well if Marrone would take them…..
December 31st, 2018 at 6:36 am
I like that thought. Send DJax to anywhere but the Eagles to give him a nice parting gift.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:39 am
Nick Bosa will be long gone before pick #5.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:42 am
“Actually, we are in a great position to trade #5 to a team that needs a QB…..we could use the extra pick to strengthen both lines.”
Agreed, #5 is the prime spot for the first QB or at least one of the top QB’s to come off the board. Miami has to decide about Gase though…A new HC in SFL will want his own QB, but plenty of QB needy teams.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:46 am
@Pete – I’m not sure Tannehill stays in Miami regardless of their HC. Reports already came out they don’t want him back next year.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:50 am
I wish lol. No way he drops to 5, not sure if I’m comfortable trading up to 1. Q. Williams, Ed Oliver or maybe Greedy Williams!
December 31st, 2018 at 6:52 am
OMG with the Jason Licht bashing. Enough already! Whether you hate him or love him hes still the GM. My God crying about it wont change it. Support the team and read the blog!
December 31st, 2018 at 6:55 am
Dear Joe , all I want for my New Year is you to sit down with Licht brain and talk about everything ROJO. Get Licht on the record about what the heck went wrong so at least later his lying can be tied back to him. Keeping Licht was one hell of a NUT PUNCH to all fans , makes me want to puke , but not surprising that the G boys cannot just admit they SUCK at running a franchise. I hope this story turns out well , but reality tells me it will end badly.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:56 am
The NFL QB fall out 2018:
Redskins trade Kirk Cousins and trade for Alex smith – neither trade worked out for them!
Vikings trade Case Keenum and trade for Kirk cousins – neither trade worked out for them!
Broncos trade for Case Keenum – did not work out for them!
Dolphins kept Tannehill – did not work out for them!
Giants kept Eli Manning – did not work out for them!
Lions kept Matt Stafford – and again it didn’t work out for them!
And the Bucs were forced to stick with Winston – and once again it didn’t work out for them either.
Also Mariota and Carr are heading towards the ‘Not working out for them’ list as well!
Lots of QB needy teams.
December 31st, 2018 at 7:00 am
Bosa will be long gone at 5. The good news for the Bucs is another Buckeye will be there at 5. And this Buckeye…Dwayne Haskins, just broke all of Drew’s Brees’s Big 10 passing records. He’s the insurance policy we need at QB. Then go get Le’Veon Bell and use the rest of the draft and free agency upgrading the offensive line.
December 31st, 2018 at 7:15 am
Bosa is the number one pick in the draft. The Bucs would have to give away the farm to get him.
December 31st, 2018 at 7:20 am
OK…..most got what they wished for….the #5 pick….now let’s turn that into a couple of great players…..we should let it be known early that we are in a trade down mode. That way QB needy teams won’t feel the need to jump up higher for their pick…….we likely could have a team’s QB of choice there at 5.
We need more talent…..and we have some high salaries to dump….best dump them for quality draft picks.
December 31st, 2018 at 7:32 am
We dont have a single corner on the roster that is good and yall want a DE smh….
December 31st, 2018 at 7:40 am
Yeah…and Rachael Watson…….SMH
December 31st, 2018 at 7:43 am
Man you people are stupid we are not drafting a QB in round 1 as we have our QB. Do you guys even watch the games? Like yesterday for example?
December 31st, 2018 at 7:47 am
Y swap a diva for a diva? DJax for JRamsey, let’s get real. We have leverage to make logical deals at #5 for teams needing to move up to take a QB. If Gruden decide to take Bosa then let’s pile up on extra picks with the possibility of still getting an elite defensive player, look no further than at Kentucky’s Josh Allen, he has strong traits of a Khalil Mack/Von Miller type player. Let’s pile up on the defensive line then bring in free agent corners.l n b done with Ryan Smith n Isaiah Johnson, they don’t belong in the league. I would then work with Carl Nassib on maximizing his skill set. He just need a good coach to bring out the best in him. He disrupts plays but often over run on plays n does not wrap up to take the runner to the ground, he arm tackles by slinging the runner to the ground in which the great ones tend to regain their balance for a big gain. This is common with Nassib. I don’t blame him I blame the coaches. Remember when no one but Coughlin rectified the problem with Tiki Barber n his fumbling. He was taught how to carry the rock.
December 31st, 2018 at 8:35 am
It’s official: Nick Bosa in the New Johnny Football.
December 31st, 2018 at 8:36 am
@TBBF: totally agree. Tharde down for picks and players. #5 should reap 2 picks and a good player.
December 31st, 2018 at 8:37 am
NDog yes we know were stuck with the con that is Winston…
We have a QB who will contine to fail, its in Winstons nature…
It is you that is stupid.
December 31st, 2018 at 8:43 am
Bosa is more than likely going #1 overall.
December 31st, 2018 at 8:48 am
The one thing Jason Licht has shown that he is good at (Aguyao aside) is his ability to “work” the draft. Unfortunately, once he puts us in a good position, he is the one making the pick. With respect to Jason Licht’s drafting ability, please remember:
Responsible for 5 drafts. Notable misses in the first 3 rounds;
Austin Seferian Jenkins(2)
Charles Sims(3)
Ronald Jones (2)
Alex Cappa(3)
But to truly appreciate his ineptness, his masterpiece of the 2016 draft where he had 5 slots to pick in the first 4 rounds
Hargraves (1)
Noah Spence (2)
Aguayo(2+3) trade up
Ryan Smith
We can only hope that the players that fall to us are no brainers.
December 31st, 2018 at 8:58 am
I think we should give our young CB a chance with a new Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator. They all got good experience this season and were doing fine down the stretch. Carl Nassib was a pretty good pickup and may excel next year. I am hoping the new DC moves Noah Spence to LB. I think McCoy is on the way out. DT is the one strong point in this draft. Perhaps we should find a replacement for him.
December 31st, 2018 at 8:59 am
As of right now, my 2 biggest priority targets that we actually have a shot of landing are:
#1. Jonah Williams T Alabama – 6’5 301 Big Bodied tackle with pretty damn good but not elite feet but packs an immensely powerful punch and has grizzly bear strength in his hands. Is a naturally gifted athlete in space and does a great job pulling/ knowing when to stop blocking his man and get to the second level and make blocks downfield. Right now to me he projects as a Right Tackle because he is a body mover in the running game but also can 100 percent hold his own in Pass pro. This would be a tremendous pick because replacing Demar Dotson is a MUST!
Or
#2 Andreaz “Greedy” Williams CB LSU – 6’3 183 2 words. Ball. Hawk. Greedy Williams is unquestionably the best Corner in this entire draft. He is lanky with really long arms for the posistion, has elite feet, elite agility/ change of direction, can mirror #1 receivers routes, is a willing tackler despite his skinny as a rail frame, and most importantly. He has the instincts to get his mitts on the Football. Be it swatting away a pass 10 feet in the air, or Mossing the receiver he’s covering and making it look effortless, he can do it all. And we would benefit quite a lot from him being here.
December 31st, 2018 at 9:08 am
Extra picks are likely to come in the 2nd or 3rd rounds which we can also get by trading GMC and Jackson.
There won’t be any great OL or DL available in free agency, so use as many picks as possible to fix those two lines.
Ed Oliver or Greedy Williams at 5
December 31st, 2018 at 9:09 am
ed oliver will be there at #5…..pair him with vita and we would be fine….
trade down and collect picks…dont trade up!!!!
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 9:14 am
813
I like Oliver I really do, But I just can’t help but to hyperfocus on the fact that he’s a DT who weighs 270 pounds.
December 31st, 2018 at 9:17 am
Trey Flowers UFA DE
December 31st, 2018 at 9:22 am
If Jonah Williams is there at #5 pick him. Its a no brainer. But I don’t trust dumb ass Licht to make the right pick. He will probably take a punter. I think Licht is about the worse GM the Bucs ever had. A lot more misses than hits.
December 31st, 2018 at 9:46 am
Pete I know you hate JW but the kid just threw 345 yards and 4 TD passes yesterday and has had very few turnovers the last quarter of the season. He leads every QB statistical category in franchise history. He is a good NFL QB and your bashing of him is starting to make you look stupid. Give it a rest already. If you hate him so much go find another team cheer.
December 31st, 2018 at 9:47 am
Buc will trade back with the Raiders so Gruden can take Dwayne Haskins @ #5…we get their 2 later 1st round picks and swap 2nd round picks
December 31st, 2018 at 9:53 am
Greedy Williams or Rashan Gary! DL is loaded in this draft, we would be foolish not to grab one.
December 31st, 2018 at 9:58 am
Does anyone except the Glazers trust Licht to not screw this up even further? I’m envisioning Grandpa Arians as the coach. People clamoring for him realize he has health problems and is old as dirt right? Then, I get to see this moron draft more OTs to play OG, no legit running backs, slow DBs, and running stopping DT and DEs. Go Bucs, Sh1t!
December 31st, 2018 at 9:58 am
schwifty
aaron donald was 285 coing out of pitt….he’s dropped weight and is now 280….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 10:07 am
Look at the film though 813. Oliver is not the game-wrecker that Donald was at Pitt. Aaron Donald was at Pitt and continues to be in LA, a Pass-rushing savant. He can split double teams and shed blocks like almost no one I’ve ever seen and he has a relentless motor.
Now Oliver is good, damn good. He has great get off like Donald does, he can create penetration like Donald does, but he does not shed blocks and get to the QB like Donald does. It’s just not part of his game, at least to this point. He’s not the same kind of pass-rusher plain and simple.
If he were, Ed Oliver would more than likely be going #1 or #2 overall.
December 31st, 2018 at 10:11 am
Looks like you don’t follow the draft much Joe. He’s not making it to 5
December 31st, 2018 at 10:14 am
Why not?
December 31st, 2018 at 10:17 am
^^^^^ Absolutely, HELL YES….
For NICK BOSA………… yes.
December 31st, 2018 at 10:21 am
@Joe
No questioning Bosa’s talent, or even the fact that he might be worth trading up for. But this team needs a whole lot more than one more pass rusher.
I disagree with Koetter’s parting words about us not being that far away. We need a bare minimum of 2 new starting O-lineman going into next year, at the very least we need a new Corner to replace Old Man Grimes, we need to redraft a Corner to replace the unmitigated bust that MJ Stewart is, we need a young prospect at DT to usher out the McCoy era, another pas-rusher of course and I’m of the opinion that this team still needs a Running back.
We’re already going into this draft down a 3rd rounder from the JPP trade, not really sure if we need to go trading picks away when several very, very good players should be available for us at 5.
December 31st, 2018 at 10:25 am
Oh and I failed to mention that our LB corps as of right now is a big fat ?
Beckwith missed the entire year recovering from a nasty broken ankle. Kwon ended the season with a torn ACL. And lets face it, Lavonte David is no spring chicken and he got pretty banged up this year to boot.
This roster needs a lot of work. And Licht still being our GM to be frank is kinda bumming me out.
December 31st, 2018 at 10:37 am
schwifty
im not here to argue about ed…lol…he’s a great player and we could use him….
if you think he’s too small so be it….but others said the same thing about AD….if the bucs felt he was too small then grab quentin williams from bama….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 10:46 am
@Topcoach1978 If I had to choose between the top DE or the top cornerback, I’m going with the DE. Remember the two Superbowl game where the Giants were against the Patriots? There were two times they played each other I believe. But even the great Tom Brady couldn’t perform against Strahan, Tuck and the gang. Pass rush is where it’s at, my man. Go Bucs !!!
December 31st, 2018 at 10:59 am
813
Ed Oliver intrigues me the most right now of any prospect.
In general this seems like a great draft for interior disruptive 3 technique type DTs. Whether we get a premium dude at 5 or trade down and take one because there should still be good one’s in the middle of R1.
Dump McCoy, draft his replacement, and spend that $13m on the best premiere shut down CB you can get or a S or a combo of CB/DE.
Draft the replacement. Vea+Oliver or whoever = core interior DTs for a decade and a new team identity.
I’ve said this for like 5 years. Just copy the freaking Panthers and draft the f*ck out of D-line. If you have a top 5 DL in this league you will have an average D at worst.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:00 am
Tom T….I’ve never seen such love for a GM.
Are you related to Jason????
December 31st, 2018 at 11:42 am
It’s not just that I think he’s too small. It’s that he’s too small and he’s not Aaron Donald.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:04 pm
shwifty
theres only 1 AD….lol…
you sound like the guys that were saying, “aaron donald is too small, he’s no warren sapp”…..
and with ed oliver, he can play DT or DE in a 34 because of his size….ed gives you versatility and quickness…just like AD….
we couldnt go wrong with ed lovier, quentin williams, greg little or jonah williams at #5 imo…..
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 12:19 pm
gone @#5
December 31st, 2018 at 12:55 pm
Rk Chg Player College P1 Ht Wt
1 — Nick Bosa Ohio State EDGE 6’4″ 270
2 +14 Quinnen Williams Alabama DL3T 6’4″ 285
3 +2 Greedy Williams LSU CB 6’1″ 182
4 -2 Ed Oliver Houston DL3T 6’3″ 291
5 -1 Josh Allen Kentucky OLB 6’5″ 230
6 +4 Greg Little Ole Miss OT 6’6″ 325
7 -1 Jonah Williams Alabama OT 6’5″ 301
8 -5 Clelin Ferrell Clemson EDGE 6’5″ 250
9 +2 Deionte Thompson Alabama S 6’2″ 196
10 +7 Rashan Gary Michigan DL3T 6’5″ 280
December 31st, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Seems Nick will be gone, but Ferrell would be there. Could trade back and pick him up.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:48 pm
Go LT Williams or Little. Move Smith to right tackle find a right guard and we have a solid line for years. OLine is the most important area to fix.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:31 pm
813
I was not one of those guys. As mentioned before, AD was a game-wrecker who got to the QB at Pitt. I would not be mad if we drafted Oliver at all. But I’d be a lot happier with Jonah Williams or Greedy Williams. I think the 2 most obvious areas to be addressed in this offseason are RT, Corner, and RG but you can never ever go wrong drafting a good Dlineman.
But if we do end up with Oliver as our 1st rounder i’d prefer we acquire him via a small trade down where we pick up some extra picks like we did getting Vea.
December 31st, 2018 at 3:38 pm
Clelin Ferrel is a beast. Great playoff game if you want a DE.
December 31st, 2018 at 3:52 pm
if Bosa is there, of course. But he’s going top 3. Most important position in football QB, 2nd most, those who get after the QB. But if Williams is there, thats who I’d take….or trade down, since we have so many holes, and pick Jeffrey Simmons….hes a beast too. Then go CB.
December 31st, 2018 at 3:58 pm
Whoa, nevermind on simmons……huge red flag….video of him pummeling a woman while she was on the ground, SORRY LUV….No love for that POS!
December 31st, 2018 at 6:52 pm
It would be amazing to get Bosa don’t think he will be there either. Let’s fix the trenches an secondary
December 31st, 2018 at 8:04 pm
Hey guys, just for argument sake; are the Bucs locked into the #5 pick? They have a SOS of 0.520 while the Giants have 0.523 and the Jags are around 0.545 or so….. So what if the Saints make a run into the Superbowl while the teams the Giants played in division, namely the Eagles and Cowboys get run in the wildcard rounds, this could make the Bucs SOS higher than the Giants and flip their draft order unless the SOS does not include post season play? I am going to guess that post season games do not affect SOS else we’d already be hearing from one of the Joes about this possibility as I am sure followers of the Gman and even Jags would probably love to leap frog the Bucs in draft order to avoid the Bucs trading down ito another qb hungry team if they really want one of the qbs.