“Very Elusive”
December 1st, 2018
Something really jumps off the screen this season when you watch the play of Jameis Winston.
It’s easy to appreciate it.
Joe sure does. And former Bucs tight end John Gilmore raved about it this week on WDAE-AM 620. “Very elusive,” Gilmore said of Jameis’ work in the pocket and scrambling.
Joe would challenge any hater of America’s Quarterback to pull up the film and study it. It’s quite impressive.
Of course, making good decisions after eluding defenders is everything. And that’s a big part of what got Jameis benched. But Jameis was great at that against San Francisco and Dirk Koetter said on the Buccaneers Radio Network last night that it was the best part of Jameis’ turnover-free success last Sunday.
“Especially in scramble situations, when to throw and when to run,” he said.
Among quarterbacks with 30 or more rushes this season, Jameis ranks 10th in yards per carry at 4.8, the highest average of his career.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:09 am
he has always been elusive, he is strong and hard to bring down, to move on from jameis will be a mistake and setback that will haunt this club for years, especially with evans, godwin, humphries, brate, and oj in their prime, but needless to say jameis after this season may want to move on to greener pastures where the local media, and fans would welcome him with open arms, it’s not to far to j ville from tampa, hey you reap what you sow. i sure hope he stays and if not i hope that they tank for tua
December 1st, 2018 at 9:14 am
Winston is trending in the right direction after the Giants and 49’ers. Hopefully he sees it and he continues to make the right decisions with the ball.
“Perfection is unattainable but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.”
Vince Lombardi
December 1st, 2018 at 9:31 am
What jameis did or didn’t do or what he told or didn’t tell the Bucs is all alleged. He isn’t on video kicking a woman who was stunned after being pushed into a wall. The Chiefs didn’t cut him because he lied, they cut him because of what is on video. He was already placed on the commissioners list with pay and wasn’t going to play anyways. Now they are not tied to the money. Doubtful he plays in nfl again
December 1st, 2018 at 9:43 am
Great, now we are talking about JW yards per carry.
The only thing elusive about JW is a positive TD to interception ratio.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:47 am
It’s one of his skills that is god gifted. He has an amazing ability to sense the pressure around him.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:51 am
Dapostman Says:
“Perfection is unattainable but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.”
– Vince Lombardi
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That is a fantastic quote, @Dapostman.
December 1st, 2018 at 10:05 am
Yes, the Wins are Very Elusive.
December 1st, 2018 at 10:08 am
“From the beginning of his rookie year to now, there hasnt been any QB in the history of the NFL that has improved his physical body,strength,quickness and athleticism than Jameis.
JW , help along with his personal trainer(tim? same trainer as mike Jordan?) has drastically changed his body formation and athleticism as never seen in the history of the NFL
During the whole game vs the niners, JW never had a clean pocket to step in and throw. JW was dodging like land mines and throwing darts but always which Kobe always respected was looking downfield though getting blasted by the incoming defender
*JW needs to get out of this horrid situation in Tampa and begin his rise to the top and into relevance….Bring in Tony Dungy and trade(save) JWs career”
Kobe Faker
December 1st, 2018 at 10:21 am
Great Title here. Elusive. Kinda like..Almost. Yep,,bout sums up our Win column..Very very ELUSIVE.
December 1st, 2018 at 10:36 am
I hope Mr. Magoo can actually see the field now that he has found his glasses. The fans have been waiting for four years.
December 1st, 2018 at 10:48 am
Today’s Winston Propaganda Machine spits out…
December 1st, 2018 at 11:45 am
Winston is pretty elite when it comes to scrambling, being “elusive” and making good plays downfield out of a broken pocket…
One of the best in the NFL in fact.
Considering the OLine’s we’ve had and lack of running game 3 out of Winston’s 4 seasons as a Buccaneer – its no wonder he’s one of the best and getting better at the scramble drill…. Plenty of practice at it in live games thus far in his career…
Dirk himself said it awhile back – “Sometimes the scramble drill is our best play…”
December 1st, 2018 at 12:14 pm
T REX Says:
December 1st, 2018 at 10:48 am
Today’s Winston Propaganda Machine spits out…
Best comment thus far!
Why is John Gilmore all of a sudden Joe’s go to analyst? Make your own decision on whether to believe John Gilmore’s analysis.
I tend to like the analysis by Anthony Becht. This week he talked on 620 WDAE about it starting with no turnovers. I agree with him.
So Joe I did not hear it. Did Gilmore “rave” about Winston all season…
December 1st, 2018 at 12:27 pm
We see JW every week. We still have hope.
NO OTHER FANS are going to appreciate JW like he’s the savior if he goes to another team. In Central Ohio they consider him a total mess. I’m not suggesting they are correct…I’m simply pointing out that JW has a horrid reputation among national fans.
No matter where he plays if he is on a winner his rep will eventually heal…including here in Tampa. But folk here are a lot more desperate and in love with JW than folks in other NFL cities
And again…IF JW wants to head to “greener pastures” don’t let the door hit him in the backside. Perhaps he can go to a team with DJAX lol I do not want players on the Bucs who do not wish to be Bucs.
I’m not saying this includes JW but the speculation here is disgusting. Who do you prefer…JW or the freaking BUCS.
NO QB…including Brady is essential for a team to win. The right QB can certainly help a team win…but I’m growing really weary of it’s JW or nothing. There are other teams playing quite well without JW…we could too if we have to.
NO FREAKING PLAYER ON THIS TEAM IS BIGGER THAN THE TEAM.
If JW wants out now he’s the biggest loser I’ve come across lately. The Glazers/Licht/Koetter literally put their careers on the line…risk setting the franchise back years…four so far…and this ingrate wants out because the fans don’t like him grabbing women inappropriately…or after taking a huge chance on him resent that he hangs out blind drunk with a convicted rapist just one year after his own rape accusations.
Let’s get one thing straight. JW may yet be a great QB…but his mistakes are HIS…not those of disappointed Buc fans!!! If he wants to bail now he would have to be the most ungrateful loser to ever put on an NFL uni. BTW I’m not suggesting he does…just trying to explain to those who are what a total scumbag move it would be for JW to bail on the Bucs after ALL we’ve put up with!!!!
December 1st, 2018 at 12:44 pm
Did anyone see the report about the cowboys official standing behind Peyton with his phone out? Very curious…they will probably try to do the same to us when we travel to Dallas…also I think if we win out up until that game that could me the wild card decider.
December 1st, 2018 at 2:41 pm
If past matchups against the Panthers have taught us anything it’s that their Dline will be living in the pocket tomorrow.
Our QB will be under duress and he will have to be elusive if he wants to stand a chance. His decision making skills should be on full display tomorrow.
GOO BUCS!!!!
December 1st, 2018 at 2:47 pm
St Pete. Keep following the national opinion for Winston.
After his performance last week I started hearing some encouraging words. There hasn’t been many positive opinions about him this year but that will change in a hurry if he can win games.
This league has proven to be extremely forgiving to any players who is winning and making plays.
December 1st, 2018 at 4:47 pm
Yes, and the word is mediocrity
December 1st, 2018 at 6:39 pm
Jameis is an outstanding QB when he plays within himself and doesn’t force the issue. He came into the league with an ultra-aggressive mentality. The saying goes: you’d rather have to pull back and aggressive QB than try to coach a conservative QB to be aggressive. JW has been playing in an aggressive,vertical passing scheme since day 1, and has yet to consistently figure out when and how to “pull back.”. The 49ers game was a great example of how good he can be when he doesn’t try to win the game with every throw. My hope going forward is that the team can find the right voice to help pull Jameis back. If they can, he has every tool you need to win games.
December 1st, 2018 at 8:39 pm
Prediction. 2 picks and 1 fumble against Carolina. I still ain’t drinking the Magoo Kool-Aid. He needs to show more growth.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:01 pm
Winston is an emotional player. That is both his greatest weakness. He could easily throw 5TDs in a game or throw 5 picks. The good thing is you have Fitz on the bench. IF JW is throwing multiple pics in the first half, you know “Bad Jameis” is out there, so you replace him. If “Good Jameis” shows up for 4 quarters against Carolina, they may as well forfeit the game NOW.
December 1st, 2018 at 11:23 pm
[Tread very carefully here. — Joe]
December 1st, 2018 at 11:47 pm
Pick,
Winston’s stats under pressure vs from a clean pocket is middle of pack vs top 10.
The scouting reports on Winston all point to his bad plays are the result of pressure not a clean pocket. Consider winston is going to beat Blake bortles to top of the bottom in turn overs , and Winston’s o line less than stellar, it’s statistically valid to say he’s elite under pressure but realistically implausible. The stat should at least raise an eyebrow.
December 2nd, 2018 at 10:16 am
Jameis will never be the perfect drop back passer. That’s not his game. Coaches should stop trying to mold him into something he’s not and adjust their game plans to play to his strength. Roll him out right, roll him out left and let him make plays. Short yardage let him fricking naked bootleg. Better than having crash into the line for no gain or a loss.
C’mon Todd…you got this.