Rare Opportunity Coming For Jameis
December 10th, 2018
America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, said last week that he consults with a few ex-NFL quarterbacks, guys he won’t name publicly.
Jameis should add David Carr to his list.
Jameis and the former Texans QB, also a former N0. 1 overall draft pick (2002), are going to have plenty in common next season. Assuming Jameis returns to the Bucs — and Joe is very confident Jameis will — he will be the first Day 1 rookie starting QB since Carr to return to his team for a fifth season as a starter without making the playoffs.
Carr completed 68.3 percent of his passes in that fifth season en route to a 6-10 record and a last-place finish. Carr was gone the following year and was a backup for the remainder of his career.
Jameis, of course, is more talented and accomplished than Carr ever was.
Still, it’s a rare opportunity coming Jameis’ way. And Joe thinks Jameis should appreciate the historical nature of it. Losing, regardless of the reason, is rarely tolerated this long.
Jameis’ career record as a starter sits at 21-30
December 10th, 2018 at 10:37 am
Don’t think Winston has/had more talent than Carr. Carr had a stronger more accurate arm, better speed, and way better mechanics. His greatest downfall was lack of anticipation and foresight to throw open receivers and his propensity for taking too many sacks. Honestly, Winston has played a lot like Carr these last few weeks. Eating the ball unnecessarily when he should be throwing it away.
December 10th, 2018 at 11:00 am
Winston’s dilemma is trying to balance his natural instincts with the discipline the NFL requires….When he plays loose, he gets careless and turns the ball over. When he plays to protect the ball, the offense doesn’t look fluid. I’ve said this many times on this site, this team was built backwards for developing a QB like Winston…and its a big reason why I think Licht is clueless.
Winston is a very unpolished talent….With that comes inconsistency, no different the Trubisky in Chicago. Instead of stacking the offense for the rookie, the Bears stacked the defense to help the rookie when he screws up or is struggling. The Bucs should have done this and its what I believe Lovie refers to when he says we should have “stuck to the plan”. A young QB that battles inconsistency needs a stout line….particularly at LT. He needs a running game to manage the game a bit. What did Licht do? Stack the receiving corps with a shaky line for Winston to air it out. Basically the exact opposite of the Bears. Titans basically the same game plan….They got Mariota RBs and a defense. This team is due for a complete reshaping of the roster….all to see if that will work for Winston. Its a total crap job by the GM.
December 10th, 2018 at 11:02 am
Carr had ZERO for an offensive line. Took more sacks in 4 years than any other QB in the history of the game (if memory serves me correctly) and I believe that number of sacks was in the HUNDREDS!!!!!
Carr didn’t get accused of felony’s nor was he accused of inappropriate sexual behavior NUMEROUS TIMES……
BIG, BIG, BIG difference in CARR and Winston.
December 10th, 2018 at 11:03 am
they have a lot in common already…..
holding on to the ball too long….
staring down wrs….
TO issues…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 10th, 2018 at 11:09 am
Winston definitely held the ball too long in the second half. We can complain about the OL all we want, but Winston got to the top of his drop and didn’t throw the ball. He took unnecessary hits and threw the ball late.
December 10th, 2018 at 11:10 am
I agree with a lot of what you say here Bobby, and that’s another reason I was confused about the Glazer’s firing Lovie (Defense) without giving him a full draft year to bring in talent, but instead stuck to building a high powered offense (Theoretically) and how has that worked ????
December 10th, 2018 at 11:16 am
If this season has taught us anything it’s that Jameis is Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Capable of looking great, but terribly inconsistent and prone to throwing the ball to the other team.
In this league that makes you a back-up. Same as David Carr.
“Simple as that.”
December 10th, 2018 at 11:20 am
Like Carr…Winston may have PTSD and may never fully recover. Having said that…I hope he does and it’s in Tampa. The 2nd half strip-sack followed by yet another geeky kicker whiffing away set an ugly 2nd half tone they never recovered from.
December 10th, 2018 at 11:33 am
He has had nearly 4 years of “rare opportunity”…IMO Jameis is not ever going to be the QB we all hoped for…tough love…move on
December 10th, 2018 at 11:37 am
Winston doesn’t have it between the ears. the franchise is going nowhere with Winston and guess what…he’s not going to go somewhere else and win anything either. LOL.
Time to cut our losses and start over.
December 10th, 2018 at 11:53 am
“Fans” don’t know sh!t.
December 10th, 2018 at 11:56 am
So let me get this straight Joe, that is something to be proud of?? Your man crush on Jameis is pathetic
December 10th, 2018 at 12:19 pm
Good Pavlovian trigger. Morons jump on the bandwagon like they ever (ever) followed Carr. Talking out your arse, again. Watch the game and see actually why those sacks happened. Go Bucs!
December 10th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
WinSTUNNED has replaced his interceptions with “staring like a deer in the headlights” and get sacked OR run for nothing….”Americas Fraud”
December 10th, 2018 at 12:44 pm
it’s a testament to the poor and very flawed rosters that this organization has put together in Jameis’ career
December 10th, 2018 at 12:55 pm
If Jameis is a no go in 2019, I say Sam Ehlinger in 2020. Bucs fans have seen too many turnovers for years now and Ehlinger recently broke the Big XII record for passes without interceptions. Great mechanics and strength. 6’4″ Tebow that can connect in stride and go deep.
December 10th, 2018 at 2:16 pm
Sorry but Jameis isn’t the quarterback we need.
December 10th, 2018 at 2:30 pm
Reality is most teams NEVER get a franchise quarterback. So keep looking for a superhuman QB to come in on a spiral from Heaven, whose life long dream is to lead the Buccaneers to the super bowl. Jameis isn’t the guy. Then tell us who is!
December 10th, 2018 at 2:35 pm
David Carr was treated like a tackling dummy for 4 years. That offensive, offensive line would have done better as a corrida de toros in Pamplona. Our offensive line can be pretty awful but nowhere near the level of Carr’s Oline was. If I had my choice today between the young David Carr or the last 4 years of Jameis Winston, I would choose Carr. Especially with the receiving weapons we have.
December 10th, 2018 at 3:21 pm
David Carr
Derek Carr
Trent Dilfer
There is your Fresno St Bulldog QB’s. Lol
None of them are as good as Winston right now.
December 10th, 2018 at 3:58 pm
You Carr followers: did Carr ever lead his team on 8 4th qtr wins and drive his team to a late 4th qtr lead in 4 others that the defense blew? Did he make the pro bowl (I know Winston was an alternate) in any way? I liked Carr, good arm, mobile, good team mate. but stop the weak a$$ed position comparisons. Just a sorry lot, you are. Go Bucs!
December 10th, 2018 at 4:20 pm
Reach
Yes ..David has had 7 – 4th qtr comeback wins.
December 10th, 2018 at 4:42 pm
Here’s a newsflash. QB is not our major problem. Don’t know that I’d call it a strength but it’s at least mediocre.
We have other areas that are not up to minimum. So I read that D Smith and A Marpet are our two major OL. We’ve grouped them on the left side to protect JW’s blind side and to block together for the run. We almost always run over that left or “strong” side on third and short and it ALWAYS gets stuffed behind the line of scrimmage…our OL gets negative push…it’s all back in our face!!
We need to draft at least one dominant road grader.
December 10th, 2018 at 6:46 pm
spbf
been saying that for a year now and it seems to go on deaf ears. This team SUCKS at run blocking. I’d have them on that fk’n sled every single practice