“Legit Interest”
December 31st, 2018
Targeted?
[UPDATE: 11:06 a.m.]
One of these names is sure to excite Bucs fans.
It seems former Cardinals coach and noted NFL quarterback whisperer Bruce Arians is in the crosshairs of Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht. This comes from NFL reporter and SiriusXM NFL Radio host Alex Marvez.
I’m told there is legit @Buccaneers interest in Bruce Arians for a head coaching interview and he may not be the only veteran coach in the mix. Keep an eye on Jack Del Rio and Jim Caldwell as potential candidates as well
— Alex Marvez (@alexmarvez) December 31, 2018
Joe can see this is because of Licht’s relationship with Arians that dates back to Licht’s Arizona days. It also helps that Arians has a relationship with America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, and that Arians is also pro-Jameis.
[UPDATE: 11:06 a.m.] It seems there may be mutual interest from Arians for the Bucs’ opening. Ian Rapaport of the NFL Network contacted Arians who said he will listen to Licht’s sales pitch.
Previously, former #AZCardinals coach Bruce Arians had said he’d only consider the #Browns job. But with the #Bucs job open, BA just texted me: “I know Jason (Licht). So, I would listen.” That would be interesting.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 31, 2018
Have fun with this Bucs fans!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:11 am
Go get Arians and bring in Todd Bowles for DC
December 31st, 2018 at 11:14 am
Joe
If Arians is still under contract and the cards fired their HC yesterday could the cards force Arians back to AZ?
December 31st, 2018 at 11:15 am
Wouldn’t be a bad combo SteveK
December 31st, 2018 at 11:15 am
Not Jack del Rio, please lord listen to me this time!!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:15 am
I would ctap my pants uf Arians came here.
I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH DEL RIO , MCCARTHY OR CALDWELL!!!!!! NOTHING!!!!
If its not Arians its gotta be Vic Fangio while retaininh Monken.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:16 am
Would love Bruce!!! Still like some other guys too but Bruce is a good all around coach
December 31st, 2018 at 11:16 am
“pro-Jameis”? Pass.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:17 am
We are screwed. Just think about it. What happens if things go a little south. Arians pulls out the health excuse and leaves. The other 2 coaches on that list make me cringe. So much for a splash hire. Looks like all the decent coaching candidates won’t even be interviewing in Tampa. More misery. Dilly dilly!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:17 am
When you get a guy like Arians he tells you who his coordinators will be not the other way around.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:18 am
This just makes too much sense. In a way, you almost get a head start on the house cleaning/structuring due to continuity on multiple levels.
I’m ready to purchase my Kangol hat too 🙂
December 31st, 2018 at 11:18 am
Ditto, Arians can mentor Bowles to take over in a couple years -would be an ideal fit all around
JW and Carson Palmer have a similar skill set and look what Arians did with him
Evans = Fitzgerald
Buckner is another connection
Would rather see this combo than Del Rio or Caldwell options – they are retreads, Arians stepped away due to health…
Maybe Jason’s prior relationship with the Birds can help soften the compensation blow it will take to get him…
December 31st, 2018 at 11:21 am
We all know how hiring your buddies will turn out, so I don’t want to hear any ones bitching if this goes south!!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:22 am
Has anyone considered that Arians may be the reason why Licht was retained?
December 31st, 2018 at 11:22 am
No Caldwell nor Del Rio.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:23 am
No matter who they hire, there will always be naysayers. Arians coached for what, 5 years and won coach of the year twice, went to 2 Super Bowls. All of this without the most talented teams in the world. He, in theory, would be a great hire.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:23 am
No No No do not hire Arians !
December 31st, 2018 at 11:24 am
TBBF,
I can hit that. Maybe Licht didn’t pick Koetter? Either way, Licht needs to address RB and Kicker, and actually get it right without using a 2nd roundlick or higher this time.
Licht should prescribe to the JBF.com polling data as a “swingvote”.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:25 am
We also asked to talk to the Pat’s D Coordinator
December 31st, 2018 at 11:25 am
@troy good point he left Zona because he saw how crappy they were lol that wasn’t cool
But can’t blame him
Tho
December 31st, 2018 at 11:26 am
If they hire Del Rio then why not hire back Koetter and Smith?
That has to be a joke.
No to Caldwell. These guys are on the downswing of their careers right now if anything.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:26 am
It really doesn’t Matter who we hire most people hear will have something to cry about lol
December 31st, 2018 at 11:26 am
I’d buy be ok with this… my top 3 options in no particular order are Fangio, Ariana, and Beinemy (I’m sure I spelled that wrong lol).
Arians did well at Arizona, they crumbled when he left.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:27 am
buccfan305,
It’s going to go south. Why hire the consulting firm if they’re not going to used? Maybe the rest of the league is kicking in money for the Bucs to stay the league’s punching bag.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:29 am
Fingers crossed on B.A., pass on Caldwell and iffy on Del Rio. Go Bucs.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:29 am
Hire an aging guy who has had serious health issues that have kept him from coaching for the past few seasons? That’s so Tampa. Sorry but it’s the truth.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:29 am
This is a move that would’ve been good 6 years ago. Now? You’re banking a lot on his health and whether or not he’s still got it.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:29 am
Manziel,
Ariana Grande would be cool to look at, but not sure of her resume.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:32 am
Hey Zam
Sorry to burst your bubble BUT JAMEIS is OUR QB!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:33 am
I’m sorry but why do people want to pass on Caldwell? He’s been to a super bowl and took the lions to the playoffs. I don’t think he finished below .500 their.
He got fired the year manning missed the season for some odd reason. And not sure why he was fired last year.
Del Rio to me is an Ok head coach but he’s not on my radar.
I’d look at Adam Gase. But definitely need to explore the coordinators in the playoffs.
Beienwmy, Richard, Flores, and I’m even going to go as far as Gus Bradley.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:37 am
Arians would be great as out HC. He’s no nonsense. And many of you might not like the idea, But Todd Bowles would be an Outstanding DC. He might not be HC material. But just like Dirk he has a speciality and his is..Kick A.. Defense!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:38 am
This is hilarious reading all the Madden GMs. The emotional responses are worth their weight in gold. When I need a laugh I come here. Let the professionals do their job. They get paid to do it.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:38 am
If Glazers/Licht are set on hiring a 66 yr old with health issues just to “save” JayMiss, good luck.
First order of business SHOULD be “saving” the franchise. That means much more than JayMiss.
JayMiss, at this point, is a salvage job. IMO JayMiss is the 2015 version of Ryan Leaf and history has shown us how that turned out
Fix what’s broken with the culture first and foremost. If JayMiss somehow gets saved in the process, that’s just gravy.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:40 am
You guys are funny. Arians would be nice. Del Rio is a much better head coach than weve had here in over a decade. Not my top choice but not a bad one. Caldwell isnt bad either. Its time for a real head coach here. Those 3 are real. I’d prefer Jim Harbaugh then Arians. And for the people thinking if Arians comes here Monken will be kept…..aint happening. He’d come here thinking he could get the best Jameis out of his offense, not someone elses. A real head coach isnt coming here and keeping an old system that didnt win. Thank god for that. Bout time I’m excited over Bucs football.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:40 am
richbucsfan,
Calling Licht a professional is a stretch. Have you seen this team the last 5 years?
December 31st, 2018 at 11:40 am
no to bruce….
he got ran outta pittsburg, indy and the cardinals…..
and someone mentioned it above….if things good south, he’ll pull the “health issue” excuse again…..
the nfl has seen what bruce can do as HC….
go young….go defensive….
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:41 am
Very Very Good Tampabaybucfan!
I think exactly the same way. Licht was retained because Bruce Arians is coming to Tampa !
In fact, it may be a done deal, but unannounced as yet, to satisfy the Rooney Rule.
LOL, if Arizona wants some compensation, give them D Jax!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:41 am
Since Jameis came back to start in the San Fransisco game he has 11 td’s and 3 ints.
Additionally, the man has 88 td passes in his career.
He has the second most yardage in NFL history before reaching 25.
Bruce Arians knows Jameis well, since High School I think. Being an experienced and accomplished NFL coach, and not a local goober inhabiting a trailer park, he knows the talents Jameies has. If he comes back it will be because of the opportunity to coach him.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:41 am
I would be VERY afraid he would pull a Bill Parsells. Dudes wife does NOT want him back in the league and when someone retires they generally are done. Watch out Bucs.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:44 am
I just thought he had heart problems, seems he might be blind and senile as well!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:45 am
@Jeff
Lmao, gotta love autocorrect. Ariana can be BA’s head cheerleader.
Side note: bring in Bowles and we’ll most likely switch to a 3-4. I think him and Buckner can get the best outta Vea.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:45 am
#1 Harbaugh #2 Arians # Shaw
December 31st, 2018 at 11:45 am
Bruce Arians will not tolerate the lazy ass tackling of Donovan Smith. Caleb Benenoch will not even be allowed to ride the pine–he is not nfl caliber and Arians would not have people like him on the team.Out here in Arizona, Arians was known for outing his players in the media especially the wide reciever group the last year he was coach. The type of player he likes–would be–a Jordan Whitehead–somebody willing to put everything they have into every play(tackle) without fear. The running game is #1 important to him. He will call out his players in the media for the stupid penalties, he doesn’t believe in always taking full responsibility for the losses.You like up front attitude with Koetter than you get it even more with Arians.He is better than Koetterin many ways–he will do what it takes if we hire him.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:45 am
Well maybe Arians could develop Winston in to that coveted franchise QB we need. Think Winston turns 25 in January and one would think he could go another 10 years barring serious injury. Forget just changing coaches every 2 or 3 years, we have done that with QB’S as well before Winston. I don’t maybe Arians could see something special in our very own #4 at QB before he hits the free agent market.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:46 am
Hire ex-Buc Scott Frost. Pay him and Nebraska whatever they want.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:46 am
Meanwhile the Glazers (behind the scenes) are waiting for John Harbaugh to exit the playoffs so they can make their move…
December 31st, 2018 at 11:47 am
Stu I hope you’re right.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:49 am
Anyone that doesnt want us to hire Arians needs to take a long walk off of a short pier!
December 31st, 2018 at 11:51 am
Just hope his health is up to it.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:54 am
Here’s an idea. If we hire Arians and he passes, we could do a “Weekend at Bernies” just prop him up on the sidelines…….or if that doesn’t work….put him up in the booth……
December 31st, 2018 at 11:56 am
Realist
He beat cancer. He is now cancer free.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:56 am
Gruden4president
Agree. Anyone who doesnt want Arians should go back and watch the bucs in Arz last season. Ironically that was the game I’d have fired Dirk after. Go back n watch it guys. Dirk threw in the towel before halftime. Comes out second half only down 24-0 i think it was wanting to go home, thinking it was over. So run, run, pass, punt. Arians gets the ball and goes deep. 31-0. He knows it aint over til its over. Only then Dirk decided to play to catch up. Bucs almost won it in spite of Dirks stoopid decisions and 2 pt misses. Point being Arians knows situational football and is aggressive. Great head coach. Sign me up.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:57 am
No on Jack Del Zero.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:58 am
Arians would be great. Hard no on Del Rio. Caldwell is like a C option we could do worse
December 31st, 2018 at 11:58 am
you don’t need a search firm for those names. Give me Bruce, but since he’s under contract, hopefully we don’t have to give up more than a 2nd round pick
December 31st, 2018 at 12:01 pm
Kris Richard for HC!
December 31st, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Lordy please don’t hire Del Rio or Caldwell.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Yup, I’m all on board. Hire BA as head coach, and DEFINITELY bring Bowles as the DC. Even though things didn’t work out with Bowles as HC of the Jets, to put it bluntly BOWLES IS A HELL OF A DC!!!
We should jump on this. Retain Buckner as DL coach, and the 4 amigos are back together again.
Bowles may change the defense to 3-4, and put Vea as the Nose….
Just my thoughts..
If BA’s health is better, I think that could be the start of the Bucs turnaround.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:03 pm
Arians would be a great Hire. I’m Staunchly against Mike McCarthy and Jack Del Rio. But I’m still holding out hope for Jim Harbaugh. Dude’s NFL record is nothing less than elite.
3 conference championships and a SB run with Kaepernick. Dude knows how to coach. He’s done a tremendous job at Michigan as well F what the idiots say. Modern CFB is ALL about recruiting. It’s damn hard to out Recruit Saban and Meyer and Sweeny and Smart.
Bruce Arians no doubt is capable of turning us into Playoff contenders, and who knows if Carson Palmer could’ve stayed healthy maybe he could’ve got the Cards a ring, but I still think that Jim Harbaugh is the cream of the crop. The only reason he’s not still in SF contending and reaching the deep post season seemingly every year is because of Trent Balke being and egotistical maroon.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:04 pm
Flores, Fangio or Richards. Need new blood. New HC will pick his own coaches.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:08 pm
If the hire Arians… he will die of a heart attack on the sidelines.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:10 pm
In order to keep his job, Licht may have made a deal with Team Glazer to pursue Bruce Arians. Has the league passed him by? Does the coach come to Florida to retire and collect Glazer loot? Stay tuned! #PaidFloridaVacation
December 31st, 2018 at 12:11 pm
I’ve liked Licht much more than other JBF posters. He’s a good scout and business man. Only reason Arians would come close to talk to us is because Licht. He comes in and dominates, all you Licht haters need pull an Isaiah Johnson and run into a brick wall to forget you were so dumb. Like I said I knew the Glazers were probably gonna keep Licht on, but maybe they did just because of the prior relationship with Arians.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:13 pm
High Mileage Used Car……Cold Air !!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 12:14 pm
I good with BA, we should have hired him over Lovie Smith, I think we may need to start fresh instead of a retread. I like Kris Richard. This team needs to get the defense fixed. If the defense was average this would be a playoff team. The defense need to be replenished with better talent. The def also needs speed at LB and CB.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:15 pm
Forgot to mention I do think BA would be a good choice for an older HC as long as he has a clean bill of health. Don’t like the idea of giving up a high draft choice but maybe D.Jack, McCoy, Bennoch or D. Smith
December 31st, 2018 at 12:15 pm
SteelStudBuc
“If the hire Arians… he will die of a heart attack on the sidelines.”
True that. They would definently need to pull a Hard Rock Stadium in Miami and put up big shades and keeping Bucs sideline cooler.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:16 pm
Hire Bruce and Kitchens is the oc and Bowles is the dc and one of those 2 takes over in 3 years
December 31st, 2018 at 12:18 pm
A 66 year old with health problems and pro-Jameis, lose-lose
December 31st, 2018 at 12:19 pm
Obviously, Licht greatly improved the bucs offense during his tenure.
Lots of good players drafted at the skill positions.
However, he has yet to field anything other than a totally embarrassing defense. Historically bad defenses.
Hope that changes.
Arians HC Marvin Lewis DC?
December 31st, 2018 at 12:20 pm
I want a defense – Don’t care how that occurs – but make it happen
December 31st, 2018 at 12:20 pm
^^^They should do that anyway. Don’t know how anyone survives on the East side of the Stadium
December 31st, 2018 at 12:21 pm
you goobers know way more about the QB position than Bruce Arians.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:23 pm
Bucfan1988 Says:
December 31st, 2018 at 12:02 pm
“Just my thoughts..
If BA’s health is better, I think that could be the start of the Bucs turnaround”.
Well that’s a BIG “IF” I would think, in general. And the quandary is, obviously with Arians being an analyst for CBS for a year, anyone’s health would “improve”, versus the hours and immense stress as a full-time HC. So what I’m saying is…
You really can only compare once he’s fully back in the job, under that immense grind around 1 year in, to truly see if BA’s health is really…any different. Guess maybe you structure his contract that way, a mutual “out clause” for both sides maybe after 2 years, going every year thereafter…IF his agent would even allow that, considering the leverage BA would have.
Maybe then Pagano as DC (better than Bowles), or maybe BA knows of someone more suited.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:23 pm
I suspect this is all smokescreening the way the team likes to smokescreen. If we end up with ‘Cardiac’ Bruce, even for a short stint, we’ll be better for it- but I think they have an eye another name- one that hasn’t been mentioned yet from the college ranks and is not named Nick.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:25 pm
I’m a little reluctant, but if we don’t get Arians we’re not going to get anyone worth a crap so it might as well be him.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:25 pm
Second thought…JOHN Harbaugh!! Like I’ve always said!
December 31st, 2018 at 12:26 pm
Just remember, you cannot make a superbowl meal with the crap groceries you’re going to get from our GM. So, I guess the more I think about it, the less I care about who they hire as the coach. He’ll have an impossible time trying to get any semblance of a legitimate team from the personnel he’ll be given. And before you say it, Licht won’t give up his power.
Unfortunately, some coach is most likely going to have his reputation ruined.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:26 pm
If its not Arians its gotta be Vic Fangio. Caldwell and Del Rio are in the same cast of guys as Marvin Lewis, Mike MCCARTHY.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:27 pm
Marvin Lewis thx!!!
December 31st, 2018 at 12:30 pm
Maybe Bruce Arians comes here as an assistant or head of.football.operations and he helps hire the new head coach? That would allow him to get back.invlved with a team withouy the non stop grind og heqd coaching. Hirr him AND vic Fangio
December 31st, 2018 at 12:34 pm
Arians is old, and has health issues, but the Bucs cannot afford to bring in another coordinator or assistant coach like we’ve done for so long that either won’t be able to keep a good coaching staff together, or will have to keep the same one’s on. Arians is one of the best at putting coaching staffs together and good assistant coach’s and OC/DC would come running to Tampa Bay if Arians were hired. If he retires again or dies in the heat, we will have better options of a new HC coming from the Bucs.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:37 pm
For all you asking about the Cardinals having Bruce Arians under contract still.. the Bucs would have to pay the Cardinals to be even allowed to talk to Bruce Arians. Hopefully he listens and Licht can land potentially the biggest free agent HC on the market.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:38 pm
Frank Pillow
Lincoln Reily is the only one I’m thinking of from the college ranks.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:43 pm
Because of Team Glazer’s hijinx and antics over the years, the Bucs are battling a PR problem around the league in attracting head coaching talent. Arians expressing “legit interest” in the job might just be a stunt, a favor to Licht, to generate “legit interest” in the job. We might have to swallow a bitter pill!
December 31st, 2018 at 12:46 pm
I like Bruce Arians but his age kind if worries me…
That being said, I wouldn’t mind the hire…
Personally, I like Josh McDaniels…I think he’s better suited to be a head coach the second time around…I feel that he could really take our offense to another level…Jameis is no Brady but I think the way the Patriots use the short passing game, the slot receivers, and the TEs really plays to Jameis’ strengths; not to mention, the chemistry he already has with Evans…Also, with McDaniels calling the plays in general, we could really be a nightmare for opposing defenses…
That being said, I think McDaniels is holding out to be Belichicks successor whenever he does decide to retire…but If we could land him I’d personally be estatic…
December 31st, 2018 at 12:47 pm
G’Boyz
Parcells twice
Kelly once
SMH….they should have already had a coach lined up
December 31st, 2018 at 12:47 pm
“Has anyone considered that Arians may be the reason why Licht was retained?”
Very good point TBBF I didn’t think of that. But let’s say we don’t get Arians, then what? There would be no reason to keep Licht here, unless on the belief that he is a good GM which he has proven to not be.
December 31st, 2018 at 12:48 pm
No Caldwell, No arians
December 31st, 2018 at 12:50 pm
TBBF – “Has anyone considered that Arians may be the reason why Licht was retained?”
~~~~~~~~~~~
No doubt TBBF & WalkdaPlank…. That thought did occur to me too last night. Does that mean that if we do not land Bruce Arians, that Jason Licht could still be cut loose?… or do you think the Glazers still really do have belief in Jason that he can right the ship with a new coaching staff?
December 31st, 2018 at 12:52 pm
I don’t know if he can handle the humidity here with his health. Whatever we do I hope we move fast good coaches get picked up quickly!
December 31st, 2018 at 12:54 pm
And the ONLY reason he’d come, to football purgatory, is for Jameis. Don’t get it TWISTED!!! perfect match
December 31st, 2018 at 12:55 pm
Maybe nobody with ANY pedigree will want to coach this trash….
All the big names…..fans….yes fans wishlists…lol
The soccer brats are doing the hiring…….again…..BUT…
“I want Harbaugh” “Bruce Arians would be a great hire”
This is the Glazers and Licht might make Roberto Aguayo’s uncle the next head coach for all we know….
You’ll take whatever they spoon feed ya!
Yes trash I said…..
December 31st, 2018 at 1:00 pm
Does it really matter who the coach is as long as Licht is shopping for the groceries? He’s proven his incompetence over the last 5 years. This job will be a career killer for any coach with Licht as the GM. And no, Licht is not going to give up his power to get a coach.
Boys, you might as well start concentrating on the 3rd tier coaches because nobody with a functioning brain is going to allow their career to be destroyed by this GM. I think guys like Caldwell or Del Rio might end up here because they’re so desperate to be back as HCs. If the Bucs truly wanted a top tier coach, they needed to go get a top tier GM.
Notice how Caldwell and Del Rio aren’t linked to any other jobs. Just saying.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:02 pm
Arians would have to pass a physical before even being considered as a candidate.
And lets not sit here and pretend like Old people don’t live literally all over Florida and do just fine.
But like some have mentioned it would be beneficial if the G’s made a canopy for the stadium to guard people in the stands and players/coaches on the field from the intense Florida Sun that beats down during the early months of the season and training camp.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:06 pm
Fire Jason
December 31st, 2018 at 1:11 pm
No Thank You. Kris Richard HC. He’s 39 yrs old. If you haven’t read about him he created Legion of Boom in Seattle and look what he’s done for Dallas ,look em up.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:12 pm
With the Head Coaches available, its Bruce Arians or Bust.
Arians has helped develop Andrew Luck, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, and Carson Palmer…..all QBs whose playing styles are very similar to Jameis.
Anything other than Arians is a mistake.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:12 pm
You know how I know NFL reporter and SiriusXM NFL Radio host Alex Marvez is talking out his blow hole?
Because the Bucs have not contacted the Cards to get permission to speak with Arians yet. So either he is being misled, or it has not happened yet. Arians responding to the rumor proves he has not heard from them yet…because he hasn’t heard the offer yet.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:14 pm
He’s still under contract with Arizona. So we would have to send them draft picks.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:14 pm
No to Bruce Arians…except as an advisor.
No to Kris Richard…I hate one year wonders. There is never certainty with them, and the Bucs have bad luck in that department.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:15 pm
Hiring Arians as an advisor may not require Cards compensation. I’m not sure.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:16 pm
#JimHarbaugh
December 31st, 2018 at 1:16 pm
How is Kris Richard a one year wonder?
December 31st, 2018 at 1:16 pm
hey, is gruden available?
December 31st, 2018 at 1:16 pm
No more players coaches. Player head coaches in the NFL do not work.
We need leadership and structure.
No more Rahhem Morris type coaches who are jumping up and down with the players on the sidelines.
So no thanks to Kris Richards.
#ARIANSORBUST
December 31st, 2018 at 1:16 pm
This would be a HUGE mistake.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:17 pm
DB55 Says
“If Arians is still under contract and the cards fired their HC yesterday could the cards force Arians back to AZ?”
No. Because he retired. He could stay retired.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:19 pm
As an advisor? Wtf? What does Licht need an advisor for, he’s already a good GM right?
Oh wait
December 31st, 2018 at 1:19 pm
Cb13 Says
“How is Kris Richard a one year wonder?”
He bombed when promoted to Defensive Coordinator in 2017. He became a pass defense coordinator in 2018 and did well for the year. One. Year. Wonder.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:19 pm
If we hire a QB guy I’d rather have McCarthy .
December 31st, 2018 at 1:19 pm
WalkdaPlank, not for Licht…for Monken in the development of Winston.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:19 pm
So what is he doing in Dallas this year?
December 31st, 2018 at 1:21 pm
Cb13
Jameis playing style is not Similar to Aaron Rodgers. Not at all so no on McCarthy. It’s just not a system fit.
Jameis playing style is however very similar to Luck, Manning, Big Ben and Carson Palmer. This would be a great fit.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:21 pm
DaPostman Says
“#JimHarbaugh”
Do you feel Jim would be worth $17m+ for his first year, then $7m+ per year after? Because that is what it would take to buy him out of his current contract and convince him to even consider Tampa.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:21 pm
Should’ve been hired instead of Schiano
December 31st, 2018 at 1:22 pm
Yes as I have mentioned this in several recent posts. Licht’s connection to Arizona as well as Arians in addition to Arians pro Jameis stance could equal Arians being the next Buccaneers coach. Licht knows the power of networking. Networking could very well save his job.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:22 pm
Monken isn’t even a sure thing to stay as our OC. But even if he does there is no way Bruce Arians will come out of retirement to be an advisor for 5th year QB Jameis Winston.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:26 pm
Cb13 Says
“So what is he doing in Dallas this year?”
This year is the 2018 season…his one year of being a wonder. Look, as a Defensive Coordinator, he had the worst pass defense in the league last year. This year he was only a passing defense coordinator and he had less pressure…and did okay.
I really do not see why this is hard to understand. One year of good production = One Year wonder.
@tbbucs3
That’s a crock. The Bucs would keep Todd Monken, so the adjustment would be fine. And Mike McCarthy had only three losing seasons in 13 years with the packers…and two of them were when Rogers was on IR and injured/recovering.
You might claim anyone could do well with Rogers…but Rogers was not the only player on that team, and you don’t know if Rogers needed work of not in the beginning.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:27 pm
I think that because of Arian’s age and health issues, he might be better suited to come in, in a role like Coughlin has in Jacksonville, and support Licht in making coaching decisions.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:28 pm
That said…if the Glazers hire Kris Richard, I will support him 100%. I’m not one of these guys who whine all season because I do not get the guy I want. I leave that to the haters and trolls.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:28 pm
Why the heck would Arians want to just be an advisor Bonzai? That’s ridiculous.
Arians has the track record with QBs and And has also be able to put together some damn good defenses.
It’s almost too obvious.
#Ariansorbust
December 31st, 2018 at 1:30 pm
Kris Richards defense bombed but was 11th ranked Defense in the league 2017
December 31st, 2018 at 1:30 pm
How about we send the rights to ROJO and Noah Spence and DJAX’s rights for the rights to sign Arians.
There’s got to be a deal in there somewhere given the amount of extraneous players we currently have on our roster. I do NOT want to give up draft picks but we could put together a strong package of players already on our roster for trade talks for Arians.
Arians would be great. If he could snare a killer young DC to join him we’d be set. It would be tempting for a new young super star because this is obviously Arians last rodeo and he might only want to go a few more years due to his age.
There’s the obvious Jameis connection. All he needs to do to fix Jameis IMHO is take the ball out of his hands.
Beef up the running game big time…take some heat off of JW.
Arians could fix him with the offensive weapons we have on this roster.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:30 pm
The smart thing to do? Contact Jerry Jones and ask him for permission to interview Kris Richard for the Defensive Coordinator job. Jerry will want to keep him, so will deny it, but he may decide to promote Richard to DC and fire Rod Marinelli. Then we hire Mike McCarthy as HC and rod as DC, and flip the rest of the defensive staff.
Team fixed.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:30 pm
Or hire Marvin Lewis as DC.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:32 pm
Leave it to simple Ol’ Bonzai to want Mike McCarthy as HC but not BA.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:32 pm
MARVIN LEWIS! You’ve gone and done it now Bonzai… LOL!
December 31st, 2018 at 1:33 pm
Tbbucs3 Says
“Why the heck would Arians want to just be an advisor Bonzai? That’s ridiculous.”
Unlike those of you who see a name and gravitate to it, I actually do my research.
First, Arians is only 58-33 as a head coach. That’s not a ‘Home run’ record.
Second, Arians knows nothing about upgrading a defense.
Third, Arians has health issues. An Advisor position would be less demanding on his health.
There’s three reasons right there.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:34 pm
No Marvin Lewis. I like Duffner
December 31st, 2018 at 1:37 pm
The Arians hire makes complete sense.
So, naturally that’s out….
December 31st, 2018 at 1:39 pm
“First, Arians is only 58-33 as a head coach. That’s not a ‘Home run’ record.”
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? LOL
That’s nearly a 2-1 win/loss ratio. If that’s not a “home run record” then please give one name of an unemployed head coaching candidate who DOES have a “home run record”. Too funny
December 31st, 2018 at 1:39 pm
I would love to have Arians as our coach! Make it happen Glazers! Go Bucs!
December 31st, 2018 at 1:40 pm
Byron Leftwich was his OC.
The return of the “wind up” maybe?
December 31st, 2018 at 1:41 pm
@SchwiftyBuc
It’s not hard if you actually look at things without bias.
Bruce Arians has six years experience as a head coach. Five years in Arizona. Of those five years in Arizona…the ones you all claim makes him good, he only had three winning seasons. Four in his career as head coach. 58-33-1 as a head coach.
Mike McCarthy has 13 years experience as head coach. In that time he had only three losing seasons, one .500 season, and 9 winning seasons. 125-77-2 as a head coach.
I will take 125-77-2 with 9 winning seasons over 58-33-1 with 4 winning season any day of the week.
The Packers are a classy organization. That they stuck with McCarthy for 13 years is all you need to know, considering it is the only organization where the fans have a true voice in personnel moves.
Research is your friend.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:42 pm
58-33? How is that a negative. I would gladly take that as a Bucs fan. You know it’s not college football right, Bonzai?
McCarthys 1 Super Bowl with the greatest QB of all time isn’t exactly impressive either
Also why do you think Todd Bowels got a head coaching job? Because the defense under Arians was top 5 easy, so instead of just saying “Arians knows nothing about building a defense” how about you do your research.
And BTW what the bleep does Mike McCarthy know about how building a defense. His packers defenses are consistently a liability year in year out, he would fix nothing to the Bucs defense which is clearly our greatest weakness. Arians would.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:43 pm
58-33 is damn good Bonzai, I have no clue what your talking about
It’s not college football.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:43 pm
Cb13 Says
“No Marvin Lewis. I like Duffner”
Duffner has 2-3 okay games and you are sold on him? Your expectations are low.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:43 pm
I’m fine with Arians as HC, as long as it’s to come in with a long term plan for the the organization with either an OC or DC that he mentors over a 2-3 year period to become the HC while he moves in to an executive position such as COO (Chief Operations Officer).
My only hesitation would be at what cost to get the Cards to agree to release him? Bucs have way too many needs (OL, DL, DB, CB, and RB to start) to be trading away any of their first 3 draft picks this year.
“IF” Cards would consider taking a player and a lower pick, say DJ or McCoy with a 4th or 5th rounder, then I’m good with that.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:46 pm
58-33 and 4 winning seasons is good.
125-77 and 9 winning seasons is excellent.
If you people cannot understand simple math, then it is clear you will never leave that bias behind. You have made up your mind for a guy that might do okay…and a guy who has no experience rebuilding a defense.
At least McCarthy’s Packers had a defense worth mentioning most of the time he was there.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:47 pm
How does your mind work like this Bonzai?
Dirk Koetter’s record as a head coach here is 19-29 (.395) yet you openly say that you’d be perfectly fine with retaining him and that you think he would eventually succeed despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.
McCarthy is 135-85-2 (.613) after spending the better part of a decade with quite possibly the most talented QB ever to play the game, and he only came away with 1 ring.
Bruce Arians record as you pointed out is 58-33 (.637) after one season of filling in for Chuck Pagano, and then went to a Cardinals team and turned them into a contender with Carson Palmer. Palmer who of course we all know struggled to stay upright. Yet still Bruce Arians reached the post season his first 2 seasons with the Cards before an aging roster and his health threw a wrench into things.
You sure do think an awful lot of yourself to think your the only one doing any research. And it’s pretty obvious that their is something very flawed in the way that you analyze the data you find…
December 31st, 2018 at 1:49 pm
SchwiftyBuc Says
“MARVIN LEWIS!”
I would never want him as Head Coach, but people forget he was a top notch Defensive guy before he took the job in Cinci.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:50 pm
Richard is a young high energy guy that would greatly help our young Corners development.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:52 pm
Marvin Lewis 0-7 in postseason enough said
December 31st, 2018 at 1:54 pm
“At least McCarthy’s Packers had a defense worth mentioning most of the time he was there.”
Research is your friend Bonzai.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:56 pm
Yeah well Mike Smith was a top notch defensive guy before he took the job with the Falcons… No thank you.
I’m awaiting your response as to how you think a .613 winning percentage with Aaron Rodgers is any where close to being better than a .637 winning percentage with Carson Palmer, Drew Stanton, and at times Logan Ryan….
Wow me with all your research Bonzai.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:57 pm
SchwiftyBuc Says
“Dirk Koetter’s record as a head coach here is 19-29 (.395) yet you openly say that you’d be perfectly fine with retaining him and that you think he would eventually succeed despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.”
I liked Koetter. If the Glazers would have ordered Licht to flip the defensive last off season, we may have seen a much different result. I’m not saying I would have kept Koetter…I said that I would have understood if the Glazers did. Big difference. There was a case to be made for it and I played devil’s advocate.
“McCarthy is 135-85-2 (.613) after spending the better part of a decade with quite possibly the most talented QB ever to play the game, and he only came away with 1 ring.”
How many rings did Arians get? NONE. Rogers is not the best to play the game, but that is a completely different topic. A coach goes with the hand he is dealt. If McCarthy had lost games, you would say he couldn’t win with Rogers. the simple truth is this: McCarthy had Rogers, and that helped, but he also had to coach the rest of the team. Rogers was not the only player. If Rogers liked him but the rest of the team did not produce, McCarthy would have been gone much sooner.
And it was McCarthy’s offensive scheme that made Rogers look good. They made each other look good. You can’t have it both ways…you say Arians is a QB guy…well so is McCarthy.
You say McCarthy had Rogers. I say Arians had Carson Palmer, who was pretty darn good too. Can’t have it both ways.
December 31st, 2018 at 1:58 pm
“And it was McCarthy’s offensive scheme” paragraph was my comment.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:00 pm
So let me get this straight, we are excited to possibly get Bruce Arians, the coach who is one of the most prolific deep ball verticall offenses in the NFL in recent history. Even more of a deep ball, slow developing, deep drop back playcaller than Dirk was.
You realize the weakest part of JW3’s game is the deep ball right? So the savior is a guy who doubles down on deep balls? Look I love Bruce, he is an awesome coach, for any team that has a QB who excels at the deep ball. He calls more deep plays than anyone.
Do you know why Carson, Big Ben and Warner were always getting injured when he was the OC or HC? Because he ran so many slow developing plays (which worked!) that his QBs got absolutely hammered….. Would you like to see a guy who wreaks JW3’s body with hit after hit? Bruce is a guy who needs 3 QB’s on the roster because he runs through them like you run through dirty laundry.
Yes the offense would be awesome but JW3 would struggle a lot with holding the ball and that would lead to hits, turnovers, and bad Jameis.
What this team needs is a guy who plays less of a vertical, downfield offense and ramps up the short passing, horizontal game. We need more of a west coast style or short passing attacks. Here are a few teams that run that style you might have heard of this year who were successful enough to make the playoffs this year: Eagles, Bears, Chiefs, Pats, Chargers, Seahawks, Texans and Ravens. Only 2 playoff teams this year run vertical offenses, the Cowboys and Saints.
What JW3 is great at is slinging short and intermediate passes that are 1 step, 3 step and 5 step drops. Using movement like roll outs and playaction. This is a perfect set up for a coach who wants to bring a new system in for JW3 to excel at. That system would be more run heavy, passes that are less risky and protect JW3’s body from hits. It would instill confidence in the offense as it would eat up clock time, get first downs, move the chains and score points.
I think we need to focus on a coach who will not just be a great mentor to JW3 but create a system that protects him long term.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:00 pm
The only percentage needed is the number of winning seasons. McCarthy wins out.
Arians had a slightly higher percentage…but in less than half the games.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:01 pm
Bonzai you’re making yourself look like a joke right now. Old Man Carson Palmer is NO WHERE CLOSE to being in the same conversation as Aaron Rodgers you fool.
And you seem to be ducking that fact that Palmer got injured during both of the Cardinals most recent playoff runs. And that Arians was forced to, and did win crucial playoff clinching games with the likes of Drew Stanton and Logan Ryan.
Face it dude. You are wrong. .637 is flat out better than .613 with one of the best QB’s of ALL TIME!
Getcha facts straight homie!
December 31st, 2018 at 2:02 pm
This is why Licht needs to go as well. He’s going to hire a coach that will help him keep his job. We need to go get someone smart and innovative—and young and energetic.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:03 pm
If BA can’t turn things around quickly what would be the odds he’d retire before he got fired? He’s already walked away once so he has the predisposition to do it again.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:04 pm
If you honestly think that it was McCarthy’s scheme, the same scheme he’s been running for the past 20 years, is what made Aaron Rodgers, a generational dynamically gifted thrower of the football who can do things that no other QB in the league can do; Then you are the highest level of buffoon and are beyond convincing.
Good day sir.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:05 pm
He is just leveraging Licht to get more from Cleveland.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:05 pm
SchwiftyBuc, Dude…Carson Palmer was not old back then, and he was considered elite at the time. Know your history.
This is a wasted conversation. You’re too dense to grasp reality.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:05 pm
Agree Schwifybuc
Winning 1 Super Bowl with the greatest QB on earth is a huge disappointment.
Also Arians defenses > Mccarthy Defenses And it’s not even close
McCarthys packer defenses are a consistent liability year in year out.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:07 pm
Well, that was alot of NOTHING Jason Licht presser.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:10 pm
I would LOVE to have Bruce as our head coach… but is it possible that Bruce is using the Bucs to amp up the Browns to make their coaching decision???
December 31st, 2018 at 2:10 pm
Carson Palmer had just gone 8-15 with the raiders after Cinci ran him out of town, and had serious reconstructive surgery on his knee.
Cards got him for a sixth round pic.
Was not considered “elite” at that time.
Arians resurrected his career.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:10 pm
Carson Palmer is currently 39 years old. It’s 2018 right. You following me Bonzai?
Bruce Arians began coaching the Arizona Cardinals in 2013. Still with me? Ok. That was 5 years ago. 39 minus 5 is 34. Meaning the youngest Carson Palmer BA had to work with, was a 34 year Old version of him.
Now Idk what reality you seem to inhabit, but in my Reality, 34 is considered to be on the older side of the NFL QB Age spectrum. And in 2014 and 2015,
35 yo and 36 yo Carson Palmer did not make it through the full season healthy, yet the Cardinals still managed to win double digit games, have a top 10 defense, and make the playoffs.
Gee Bonzai for a guy who does so much research you seem to be misinformed quite a lot…
December 31st, 2018 at 2:11 pm
Maybe Arians wants to get back at Panthers. They eliminated him from playoffs in 14,15.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:12 pm
Thank you Eric. This dude really just sat here and tried to put Carson Palmer and Aaron Rodgers in the same tier.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:14 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
“58-33 and 4 winning seasons is good.
125-77 and 9 winning seasons is excellent.
If you people cannot understand simple math…………”
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You are leveling insults about math skills??
The 58-33 record (Arians) is 63.7%
The 125-77 record (McCarthy) is 61.9%
Yes we can understand that simple math provides Arians has a better record.
It is clear that you like McCarthy better, Bonzai, and that is totally fine. It has nothing to do with math, though
December 31st, 2018 at 2:15 pm
As long as Licht is still here, the Bucs are going to be handicapped. Arians is okay, he is a proven commodity, but the Bucs will never get to a SB with him. He is simply not an elite-caliber coach.
Harbaugh would be a better choice–with sufficient talent at his disposal, he has proven he can get you a SB. The Bucs would still need to get rid of Licht–he has been the one common denominator in the Bucs misery through all of the bad coaches.
By the way, Duffner is completely unqualified to be an elite NFL DC, for anyone suggesting that. I don’t get much wrong when it comes to football, and I’ve been ahead of everyone as far as my predictions for the Bucs the past few years, so you will just have to take my word for it.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:17 pm
Arians last two seasons as HC 7-8-1 and 8-8 No thanks. We need energy
December 31st, 2018 at 2:18 pm
Bonzai I’m not going to capon McCarthy a bad coach, and I don’t think anybody here is, but you have dug yourself a hole with your argument.
You say Arians knows nothing about upgrading a defense and then also say McCarthy’s defenses were “worth mentioning for most of his time there”. Now Arians is an offensive mind through and through so I can’t say much for his defensive scheme, however I can tell you that McCarthy’s defenses were most certainly not “worth mentioning” for most of his time there. 5 seasons his defenses finished in the bottom half of the league, including 32nd one year, and 2 seasons his defense was ranked 15th, which isn’t bad but not “worth mentioning”.
Aaron Rodgers is absolutely 10 times better than Carson Palmer who WAS old when he was in Arizona hence why he hasn’t played since. Aaron Rodgers is a hall of famer while Palmer is not. The two aren’t up for comparison at least not Arizona’s version of Palmer.
Also it doesn’t matter how long the Packers “stuck with him”. Marvin Lewis was with the Bengals for 16 years with a Carson Palmer who was in his prime and has nothing to show for it. Now McCarthy DOES have a super bowl ring which is worth noting however that was 8 years ago. And they haven’t been to the big game since.
I would be in board with McCarthy but in my opinion Arians is the superior candidate. I also believe that Arians is the best shot at saving 5th year QB Jameis Winston from himself. I’m not a Winston fan but he’s our QB for next year so I want him to turn it around.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:18 pm
Cb13
It’s his fault that his roster got too old to compete? It’s his fault his star RB got injured? It’s his fault his GM didn’t maintain the roster properly?
Yeah ok…
December 31st, 2018 at 2:18 pm
The more I read, the more more I’m getting on board with Arians. I think he’s the right guy for a lot of reasons. I’m just wondering who the coach is 6 years from now.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:21 pm
I stand by my comments made in FEB 2018.
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2018/02/aggressive/
catcard202 Says:
February 2nd, 2018 at 10:38 pm
If we see another under performing season by the current Koetter staff…I got four words for you…Bruce Arians – Chuck Pagano.
After a year with their wives-families..These guys will be biting at the chomps to get back on the field & the good buddies would be a great fit for Tampa.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:22 pm
The man is 66 years old, this is the Bucs we are talking about here, I doubt his heart could take it.
Let’s go young, Kris Richard 2019
December 31st, 2018 at 2:22 pm
Everybody wants this fiery coach – but it was the cool mild mannered consistent coach that built the Bucs. Jim Caldwell is my second choice to Arians (especially if it is going to cost the Bucs a draft pick). Caldwell could be to Jameis what Dungy was to Sapp. If he can get the right staff, this would be a quick turn around. Caldwell went to the SB with the Colts, won a SB as the OC with the Ravens, took the Lions to the playoffs twice in four years, he lost his job due to a GM change.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:24 pm
@WDP
*Golf Clap*
Harbaugh is still my #1 target. But BA is 2nd on my list provided he’s healthy. A
I however will say that I think McCarthy would be a bad hire. I firmly believe that he benefited far to much from Aaron Rodgers and did so little with the rest of the roster that he essentially wasted the best years of #12’s career. I’d pass personally.
My Dark horse candidate would be Steve Toub. Can’t argue against the Andy Reid/Mike Holmgren/Bill Walsh coaching tree. Reid is on record saying that he thinks Toub is more than deserving of a Job and he was KC’s assistant Head this season for whatever that’s worth.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:25 pm
I dont care what any 1 says bring in Bill Cowher!
December 31st, 2018 at 2:27 pm
I’d rather see Monken as HC. Retain our DC and bring in a new OC. Arizona without warner sucked. The jets program was atrocious, Caldwell did great with the lions… no wait he didn’t. All bad options in my opinion. I suspect Koetter restrained Monken. Let them have a crack not some joker who has not done anything as a head coach without a HOF QB.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:30 pm
I believe if Arians will be reasonable in negotiations he will be our next HC.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:31 pm
DislocatedBucsFan Says:
“Caldwell did great with the lions… no wait he didn’t.”
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Actually you were right the first time, lol. Caldwell had winning seasons in 3 of his 4 years in Detroit. I mean, DETROIT!!….. and that included an 11 win season. Pretty impressive.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:32 pm
Two big concerns…. First, what would Arizona demand to let him out of his contract? We can’t afford to part ways with our draft picks.
Second, he’s already 66 and has had health problems. This is maybe a 2 year guy. What’s the game plan afterwards?
December 31st, 2018 at 2:33 pm
Kris Richard HC is what the Bucs need.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:34 pm
In all fairness to Jim Caldwell, his team did get absolutely jobbed by the refs when they picked up that DPI flag vs Dallas in the playoffs in 2014. They had a damn good team that year and could have posed a huge threat to GB in the next round but they got killed by a bad and hugely controversial no call.
Jim Caldwell would be a sexy hire, but you can do a lot worse and I prefer him to McCarthy.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:34 pm
Excuse me. Jim Caldwell would *NOT* be a sexy hire..
December 31st, 2018 at 2:34 pm
SchwiftyBuc … Toub seems a natural fit for CLE.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:35 pm
SchwiftyBuc
To which Harbaugh are you referring to?
December 31st, 2018 at 2:36 pm
Of course when I said Steve Toub I meant Dave Toub… That is all.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:37 pm
Here’s the defensive rankings if you guys wanted to know…
Arians with AZ
2017 – PA: 361 (19th)
2016 – PA: 362 (14th)
2015 – PA: 313 (7th)
2014 – PA: 299 (5th)
2013 – PA: 324 (7th)
McCarthy Greenbay
2018 – PA: 400 (22nd)
2017 – PA: 384 (26th)
2016 – PA: 388 (21st)
2015 – PA: 323 (12th)
2014 – PA: 348 (13th)
2013 – PA: 418 (24th)
2012 – PA: 336 (11th)
2011 – PA: 359 (19th)
2010 – PA: 240 (2nd)
2009 – PA: 297 (7th)
2008 – PA: 380 (22nd)
2007 – PA: 291 (6th)
2006 – PA: 366 (26th)
Not sure why were comparing DEF stats for Offensive HC’s but do with this what you will.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:37 pm
I want Jim Harbaugh. I wanted him last season.
If I had things my way Dave Gettleman and Jim Harbaugh would have replaced Licht and Koetter last year.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:40 pm
I was hoping you wouldn’t say Jim lol but I respect your opinion
December 31st, 2018 at 2:41 pm
Eric Beinemy first up on the Bucs interview list.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:42 pm
@ Arians Health Training Center….
December 31st, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Wow, y’all are brutal this afternoon. I’m seeing a lot of experienced … and aging … head coach names being thrown around. Bruce Arians – 66. Jim Caldwell – 63. Marvin Lewis – 60. Jack Del Rio – 55. Mike McCarthy – 55. Jim Harbaugh – 55. John Harbaugh – 56. Are ANY of those guys up for a true reconstruction project (aka, Bucs)?
Tony Dungy was 41 when he came here to undertake a similar project. Jon Gruden was 39 when he arrived here. Not particularly in favor of a inexperienced ‘youngster’ taking the reins, BUT … someone in the 40-50 age range, with a good ‘pedigree’ so to speak (especially defensively), sounds a lot more appealing than some of the other names being bantered around.
Still very much in favor of seeing if Bruce Arians (or someone similar) would be interested in a President of Football Operations position, even if it was just for a specified time period (like a year or so). Still don’t trust the Glazer Boyz OR Jason Licht to make the best LONG-TERM decision for us.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:44 pm
@Defense Rules
Honest question. If the glazers can’t pick a qualified HC, what makes you think they can pick a Pres of Ops?
@Scotty
Like him a lot too. If your trying to go the Sean McVay route, him and Carmichael from the Saints aren’t bad options.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:48 pm
Like others have said…these are mostly all offensive-focused coaches that we are looking at. Caldwell, Arians, McCarthy, etc are all offensive coaches. And many times these coaches leave the defense and defensive playcalling up to someone else. So comparing their defenses is not a good measure. Their DC would be the most important hire with any one of these people.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:48 pm
Jim Harbaugh was 44-19-1 in his 4 years with SF. Got to 3 NFC Championships and a SB in that span. How could he not be everyones #1 candidate?
December 31st, 2018 at 2:50 pm
I personally strongly disagree with saying you can’t compare Offensive head coaches defense.
Hello, every HC is in charge of hiring his own coaching staff. If you can’t pick good defensive coaches as a Offensive minded HC, then how can you ever build a contender and win the big game?
December 31st, 2018 at 2:51 pm
Schwifty
I have nothing against his NFL head coaching career however his failures at Michigan have been, in my opinion, monumental.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:54 pm
WDP
The way I see it is like this. CFB is all about Recruiting. You cannot out Recruit Saban, or Meyer, or Sweeney, or Kirby Smart. You just can’t do it. Despite that, he’s had a competitive there his entire tenure despite having no one at QB. All the While develop several very good pro prospects in his time there.
You do not have to out recruit teams in the NFL. Harbaugh is the real deal. He would immediately provide the spark needed to turn this team around. Of this I haven’t a single doubt.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:56 pm
College and the NFL are different games. Coaches in one don’t always work out well in the other. Harbaugh is a better NFL coach than a college coach.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:56 pm
he’s had a competitive *team* there…
December 31st, 2018 at 2:56 pm
This is a passing league ,our secondary was historically bad we need help to develop our young corners . Keep Monken to run Offense (If we can) , Let’s see what Kris Richard can do for our secondary .D-Line went from 22 sacks last year to 38 this year so that improved .The excuse for our secondary last season was we couldn’t get to QB .
December 31st, 2018 at 2:58 pm
Kris Richard seems like a Raheem Morris type of hire. Think about it, charismatic young DB coach who’s franchise is afraid of losing.
December 31st, 2018 at 2:59 pm
SchwiftyBuc,
I wish this team would go after Jim Harbaugh. He’s the real deal. But we’re talking about the Bucs. They’re going to settle for Caldwell and think they’re making a big splash. The culture is putrid.
December 31st, 2018 at 3:00 pm
Imagine the draft if we move up to four! WHO will make the call….Licht? Arians? Harbaugh? New Coach?
We are more than one player away from a championship. We are not more than a couple of players from reaching the playoffs with the proper coaching. I think Arians handles fundamentals and proper coaching very well. No nonsense!
Remember we didn’t just move up in the first round but in every round we have our picks…our round two pick will be very close to a late round one pick. We should at minimum get two solid starters from this draft. No more ROJO’s!
December 31st, 2018 at 3:02 pm
I agree Schwifty
I just wanted to see him do what every Michigan head coach’s job is to do which is not to win a national championship but to beat Ohio State and that awful Urban Meyer. He let me down lol
December 31st, 2018 at 3:05 pm
Bruce Arians + Todd Bowles for the win.
December 31st, 2018 at 3:05 pm
I really hope there’s not another job Arians really wants and his “interest” in our job is to up the offer from the other one.
December 31st, 2018 at 3:47 pm
Arians as HC and Pagano as DC…..hmmm. That would be interesting and could work. Both have some health issues but thats cool. Means they would be doing it for the love of the game and will give it their all since it would probably be their last rodeo.
December 31st, 2018 at 3:49 pm
I remember when Dungy wanted BA for OC. And BA said “no way!”
December 31st, 2018 at 4:10 pm
Anybody that hasn’t seen A football life with Bruce Arians should check it out on YouTube. I’ll post a link hopefully the Joes wont get too mad or block it.
https://youtu.be/Jq06MS39lRY
December 31st, 2018 at 4:11 pm
Anybody that hasn’t seen ‘A football life with Bruce Arians’ should check it out full version is on YouTube.
December 31st, 2018 at 4:24 pm
Can the coach sit in a wheelchair on the sideline.
December 31st, 2018 at 4:35 pm
Bruce Arians “No riskit no biscuit”
Arians holds the record for Qb rushing (11) TDs at VA Tect over Michael Vick (9) and Tyrod Taylor (7).
December 31st, 2018 at 4:50 pm
Eric Bienemy OC is also had an interview request from Bucs (along with 4 others). I think Arians is not coming here or coaching in 2019.
I dont think the Bucs need a re-tread; we tried that with Lovie.
December 31st, 2018 at 4:52 pm
Funny how some of you keyboard warriors like to joke about his health… his 66 year old ass would give most of you a beatdown
December 31st, 2018 at 4:57 pm
This guy is 66 ? No exaggeration this man will die in this FL heat . I’d be inclined to kick Gases tires or Jimmy Michigan . It was stupid to commit to Jameis before we hired a new coach . We are already in top 3 of undesired job and now your handcuffing a potential coach with a guy like Jameis . Especially with a top 5 pick that would almost guarantee a top 1-2 QB 🤷🏻♂️ Licht is a terrible GM for putting us in this position to begin with.
December 31st, 2018 at 5:13 pm
Arians gets QB’s killed and continually throws his players under the bus in the media.
December 31st, 2018 at 5:15 pm
I def wasnt joking about his health….and yep, i agree! lol
December 31st, 2018 at 6:32 pm
Great, if we sign him the first thing he will do is go on long term disability. Like that hasn’t happened before to the Bucs. The guy had to get out of coaching because of serious health issues, it would make no sense to hire him. But then again we are dealing with Jason Gump and the Glazers. I’m in for the epic fail.
December 31st, 2018 at 6:43 pm
Jason Licht! Wow what a great day you have had in the media!!best day of Licht’s career! Have a happy new year! Fix the issues and get to work putting together an championship caliber team! Take the over on Tampa next year folks! The Bucs are back to the late 90s early 2000s Bucs!
December 31st, 2018 at 6:43 pm
Keeeep Licht!
December 31st, 2018 at 6:51 pm
I question why he would retire for health concerns then want to coach again 365 days later. His retirement conincided with Palmers. To me that means he didn’t want to deal with a young or bridge QB. If Arians is the hire the Bucs will be searching for a new coach in 2-3 years
December 31st, 2018 at 6:52 pm
If he is hired will they play the games in God’s waiting room aka Spring Hill?
December 31st, 2018 at 7:34 pm
If Jason if drafting the players bruce will only last 2 years
December 31st, 2018 at 8:13 pm
If this team hires Jim Caldwell or Jack Del Rio.. They can stuff it.
December 31st, 2018 at 8:20 pm
BA is short for Bad Ass!
You guys do realize there a website called google that has every answer to almost every question, right?
BA beat Kidney cancer while on summer vacation and never told anyone so it wouldn’t be a distraction.
Yet you guys cheer for “men” how quit on their team bc of broken fingers. And you wonder why this team is a laughingstock.
JPP blew up his hand and still outplayed your boy toy McIceCream on every single play.
Truth is that by the time BA is done building this team half of you won’t be fans anymore bc there won’t be any divas with good community service off the field. Just a bunch of crazed dogs ready to destroy everything in their path and that’s just not the Tampa-way. Sad!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjm1dWjscvfAhXl54MKHbSdA68QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.azcentral.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2Fnfl%2Fcardinals%2F2017%2F07%2F22%2Fbruce-arians-cancer-free-ready-put-health-issues-behind-him-and-embrace-future%2F501425001%2F&psig=AOvVaw3ey0MDmFINEz-tWlHHoqAo&ust=1546390933926466
December 31st, 2018 at 9:25 pm
Fairly soft serve I agree.
December 31st, 2018 at 11:21 pm
The ignorance from the followers of this site is absurd. I don’t think Jason Licht had a choice with Lovie or Dirk…I’m willing to bet that was all on the Glazer’s. Licht has missed on quite a few free agents and will never live down the Aguayo pick, but he’s also nailed quite a few draft picks and FA signings. Licht is connected to Bruce Arians and that would be the absolute best coach for the Bucs right now, even if it’s only for a few seasons. Jameis will improve drastically (who he’s known since a kid), Brentson Buckner was on his staff in Arizona, and his former DC just got fired in NY. This would be huge for Tampa Bay.
January 1st, 2019 at 2:22 am
In 2013, the Arizona Cardinals went 11-5 with Bradley Sowell as their starting left tackle. The same Bradley Sowell that was cut by the Bucs in 2012 training camp. Sign me up for some Coach Arians!!!!!!
January 1st, 2019 at 2:41 am
Correction: 10-6, not 11-5. They went 11-5 in 2014