Koetter Cites “Disappointing” Offense
December 16th, 2018
Discusses today’s loss.
Yeah, the Bucs offense stunk in the second half. But it was the first half when Koetter thought the Bucs left a lot of points on the field.
Speaking on the Buccaneers Radio Network after the game, Koetter said it was “disappointing” how many drops the Bucs had in the first half and said, “I don’t think Jameis [Winston] could throw the ball any better than he did in the first half.”
However, he noted just like last week, the Bucs defense got ground down in the second half because th- offense was impotent.
“Our defense held them to 20,” Koetter noted. “Our goal [on offense] was 21 or more points. Our defense was on the field too much in the second half. That will wear any defense down. … We wore down.
“I never expect our offense to have that little production. I expect to score multiple times.”
On the fatal fourth-down play with 7:12 left in the game and the Bucs trailing 20-12, the Bucs had the ball on the Crows-33. After stuffing Peyton Barber for a three-yard loss on third down, Jameis tried to hit Chris Godwin to the right side but Marlon Humphrey broke up the pass.
“I thought [Jameis] threw a pretty good ball,” Koetter said of the fourth down play. The “defense was just tight.”
Koetter, however, was peeved at Barber getting dropped for a loss on third down but it didn’t appear that Koetter was upset with Barber.
“Third down was a bigger play,” Koetter said.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:27 pm
Jameis has to do a better job catching the ball and designing plays. I recorded 3 drops on the first 3 drives (Godwin, Evans and Brate). So yeah let’s blame it all on Winston.
4th drive ended in a TD.
5th drive and amazing play by Winston to hit Evans deep to overcome a 2nd a 20 after a Jensen holding penalty. Ended in a FG
6th drive 9 secs before the half
7th drive Ronald Jones drop on 2nd and 7 ended in a Punt
8th drive after recovered fumble on a punt. Evans penalty that nullified a catch by Humphries and instead of 3rd and 1 it went to 2nd and 18. Ended in FG.
9th drive empty backfield on 1st down and bad throw by Winston for an INT.
10th drive horrible play design/call on 4th and 4 not 1 person open.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:29 pm
you’re disappointing koetter
December 16th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
Jameis was not the blame today
THIS IS COACHING ISSUES
December 16th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
The word is very pure and very simple………>CHOKE!!!
December 16th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
Jackson could not throw the ball (less than 100 yds passing) and even I knew he was going to run 9 times out of 10 and they still couldn’t stop him. No spy on a running QB? That’s coaching.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:31 pm
Bucs had 47 plays.
Ravens had 74 plays.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:31 pm
Chris Gowin has played bad enough that we now have a need at WR.
You can easily blame the game on him. Dropped 7 points and run a pitiful route in the endzone as the hot read.
If I’m the coach I hold him accountable and give somebody else the start next week.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:33 pm
Yeah. Good call waterboy. Winston had nothing to do with the offenses ineptitude. He seems to always be there, but it’s definitely not him.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:34 pm
Waterboy,
stop trying to make sense the idiot fan base won’t believe it.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:35 pm
“Koetter, however, was peeved at Barber getting dropped for a loss on third down but it didn’t appear that Koetter was upset with Barber.”
I don’t know why anyone would be upset with Barber on that play – it wasn’t like he did something wrong. Jensen appeared to me to get ran over on the play, but on radio Dave Moore pointed out that Jensen’s footwork, the way he stepped back, meant he was expecting help that didn’t come – in any case the Baltimore defender had a huge opening and hit Barber right after he got the ball.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:35 pm
Not 1 guy was open on that 4th and 4, I rewatched that play multiple times. Has Koetter ever heard of rub routes to get guys open? Especially in those weather conditions.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:36 pm
Maybe we need to consider giving it one more year keeping the same staff. Team Glazer decided that it was the best decision this season. We still have a chance to finish with a better record this year. So it might actually work.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:37 pm
Nice try Waterboy!!!! Winston sucked today. Franchise QB’s find a way to win and Winston has NEVER won a Big game or LED this to team to a significant win. He is a LOSER pure and simple
December 16th, 2018 at 4:38 pm
Godwin needs to practice the entire offseason not wearing gloves. Sure, Evans dropped an early one, but he came back with big catches and showed he didn’t gloves, but Godwin didn’t look like he could catch anything without his gloves.
Anyways Godwin will be fine – when you play a really good defense, they can shut down guys, and without the rain being an issue I don’t think he’s dropping those balls.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:39 pm
The Bucs have a way of eroding your loyalty. It’s like water running over Rock it’s a slow tedious process but over time it does erode.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:39 pm
Waterboy. They were ALL open on 4 down IF the ball was throw ON time by an NFL QB, which evidently Winton is NOT
December 16th, 2018 at 4:40 pm
Waterboy – Again I’ll defend Dirk to some extent, but if the Bucs run a rub route on 4th and 4 you KNOW the refs are going to call offensive PI. These refs today were garbage and they’d have made sure the Ravens got the ball back there.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:42 pm
Bucnut I wish I could post an image of that 4th and 4. No one was open and that’s a fact.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:45 pm
Well just keep throwing benenoch out there. The Calvary isn’t coming right Dirk?
December 16th, 2018 at 4:58 pm
Bucnut crawls out of the woodwork to slam Winston again, gee what a surprise.
December 16th, 2018 at 4:59 pm
3rd&1 was the bigger problem for me.
We were going for it on 4th…….That means we cannot gain one yard on 2 plays.
Folks this is a 4year problem.
This has cost us just as many games as kicking.
This is a problem that Dirk has proven……a pure fact…….he cannot fix.
December 16th, 2018 at 5:15 pm
Munch, why do you keep posting the number of plays? Why did the Bucs only have 47 plays? Because the offense, led by Jay Miss, just couldn’t get anything going.
December 16th, 2018 at 5:35 pm
Alvin you are wrong. Our running game was very effective today.
The decision to abandon the run Midway through the 2nd was an awful call.
Equally awful was the decision to keep trying to cram the ball down the Ravens throat in theredzone when the field was shrunk.
December 16th, 2018 at 5:53 pm
Waterboy,
The 4th and 4, they ran a rub but JW never looked at the side. As far as being open, yes, but it wasn’t possible to complete the pass on schedule . I’m going to say if you can’t see the play design included a rub element, it’s difficult to believe you understand what is or is not open.
December 16th, 2018 at 5:57 pm
How did the Ravens score their first TD (creativity – something we do not have)
December 16th, 2018 at 6:02 pm
JimmyJack, your comment about ‘abandoning the run’ spawns an interesting question: WHY? (And actually 19 rushes by Barber was above his average this season). But WHY is our offense seemingly impotent against strong defenses? (Ravens, Bears … a couple others had great defensive games against us).
I tend to think that a big part of the reason is that Bucs aren’t a very ‘balanced’ team. Any team that lives by the pass but is mediocre at running the ball isn’t very ‘balanced’ IMO. Has to make it a lot easier for the opponent’s defense when we’re one-dimensional. Another part though is untimely turnovers by the offense (kills our drive, hurts our TOP, and sometimes leads to points for the opponent). But a third part may be TRUST … our OC doesn’t TRUST our OLine & RBs IMO (which is understandable; neither do I). I think that’s one of the reasons why we see relatively few play-action passes to our RBs (Hump seems to get a lot of those short passes, and for good reason … he’s super-dependable).
December 16th, 2018 at 6:19 pm
a lot of crappy inaccurate passes today
December 16th, 2018 at 6:22 pm
13/25 157 yards 0 TD 1 int <<<—– that's sad
December 16th, 2018 at 7:11 pm
Posted this about two weeks ago on Nov 28th, so please ignore:
So far this year the QBs on average are completing 65.3% of their passes with 19.5 TDs already and only 9.3 INTs.
The AVERAGE QB rating in the NFL this year is 94.9!
So, it seems to me, that if you are less than 65% completion percentage, less than 19 TDs, more than 9 INTs, and with a QB rating of less than 94, you’re performance to date has been LESS THAN AVERAGE.
tickrdr
BTW: New and updated!
After 14 games, both of the Bucs QBs have started and played approximately 7 games apiece. So, the updated totals are:
Fitz: 164 of 246 = 66.7% JW3: 188 of 295 = 63.7%
Fitz: QB rating = 100.4 (10th in league) JW3: QB rating = 85.3
Fitz: 17 TDs (6.9% of passes) JW3: 14 TDs (4.72% of passes)
Fitz: 12 INTs (4.9% of passes) JW3: 13 INTs (4.4% of passes)
Note that neither one has a TD/INT ratio of at least 2:1.
Note: I am pretty sure they have played with the same offense, the same running backs, the same receivers, the same defense and the same coaches.
It seems at BEST: Jameis Winston = Ryan Fitzpatrick
December 16th, 2018 at 7:41 pm
So it was repeatedly said that the Glazers will see how Winston does over the season’s last four games. This will determine the path forward. What are they seeing? My guess is they give Winston a one year so-so contract while drafting a new QB prospect.
December 16th, 2018 at 8:01 pm
Jameis will QB in 2019 and the Bucs will continue to win 40% of the time. 12 years out of the play-offs and arguably the worst team in football. Ira and Joe will continue to genuflect…
December 16th, 2018 at 8:22 pm
@D1
There was no rub route on that 4th and 4.
They came out in a 4 WR set with Barber in the backfield. Godwin and Brate lined up on the right with Godwin on the outside. Evans and Humphries lined up on the left with Evans on the outside.
On the left after the ball was snapped: Evans ran an in breaking route and Humphries came behind him running a wheel route.
On the right after the snap: Brate ran a midrange post corner, Godwin came behind to the inside like he was going inside but he stop and curled out towards the sideline at about 5 yds, Barber had the underneath route in the flat.
December 16th, 2018 at 9:10 pm
Who you going to get Dirk’s a really good coach lot injuries a lot of stuff happened just relax boys
December 17th, 2018 at 1:51 am
Waterboy,
I run that play and the concept is a rub, I say concept because in no way shape or form was the timing of routes precise enough to get a 2 step advantage. I also noticed the same lack of Route running detail on a crossing pattern. The play is run all the time in college and the execution was something that is not acceptable on a HS level.
I’m not disagreeing with the results of the play , but rather the idea that rub , pick and pin concepts are absent from the playbook. They’re there, but they are not run in away that avg or above fan would be able to watch at home and recognize that’s what it is.