About The Jameis Winston Fumble
December 23rd, 2018
So there was America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, 3rd-and-5 on the Cowboys 34 yard line with the Bucs trailing 7-3 late in the first quarter.
Jameis escapes pressure in the pocket, and with a little room to run in front him, Jameis scrambles out to the right and is stripped from behind and the Cowboys get a scoop-and-score touchdown.
It was a massive turnaround.
Dirk Koetter said don’t blame Jameis because was just trying to make a play he’s made before and it was a good play by the defense. Buccaneers Radio Network analyst John Gilmore, the ex-Bucs tight end, won’t put it on Jameis either. FOX analyst and Hall of Fame QB Troy Aikman put it on Jameis not protecting the football.
Joe has to call it straight. If Jameis tucks and runs and gets positive yardage and keeps the team in field goal range or gets the first down, every single Bucs fan praises his awareness. So Joe believes you can’t have it both ways.
Jameis held the ball 4 seconds and got stripped. Great defensive play, yes, But still, Jameis’ internal clock, which has been excellent in recent weeks, failed him.
He gambled and lost. It happens. It doesn’t mean Jameis sucks. But you just can’t do that, especially in that situation.
Here’s the play — and replay — for your review below:
Merry SMITH-mas ✨@thejaylonsmith picks up the gift & takes it all the way 🏡#DallasCowboys https://t.co/7zRaZ8kCHY
— Dallas Cowboys (@dallascowboys) December 23, 2018
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:20 pm
it’s 100% his fault
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:21 pm
WRONG. It DOES mean Jameis sucks. Because this isn’t an isolated occurrence. He turns the ball over all the time because in most games he lacks awareness.
Stop making excuses for this guy overall. He’s just not elite and never will be. He has a low football IQ when it comes to the NFL game and decision making and risk management.
DUMP WINSTON.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:22 pm
That’s on Jameis, he needed to tuck and run that play. There was absolutely nobody open and receivers were running the opposite direction of the scramble.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:23 pm
He is going to be out QB for a long time I would wager. Get used to it.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:23 pm
I blame the LT for not at the very least getting a hand on the defender to slow him down. I miss OJ, he is a monster. he could always give Winston a extra second with a chip block.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:23 pm
I don’t blame Jameis for that….stuff like that happens…we have bigger criticisms to fry..like his tendency to throw to stationary WR’s…he was late on a few throws which is a symptom of don’t really seeing the play unfold until it has unfolded…this can get better with time..on and on and on…
again
bring K&L&J back in 2019
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:23 pm
Who’s fault could it be other than Jameis Winston? Oh and Jameis does suck and always will.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:24 pm
Hall of Fame QB Troy Aikman…
• 3× Super Bowl champion (XXVII, XXVIII, XXX),
• Super Bowl MVP (XXVII)
• 6× Pro Bowl (1991–1996)
…put it on Jameis “not protecting” the football.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:25 pm
Alaskan, wrong. I’ve heard from multiple NFL agents I know that Winston’s days in Tampa are coming to an end.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:25 pm
So did everybody see what Nick Foles did today while Winston again was fumbling and bumbling and leading his team to yet another loss?
Foles threw 4 TD passes and again rallied his team to a win against a very good defense, keeping their playoff hopes alive.
Glazers, GO GET HIM.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:25 pm
^Nuff Said^
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:25 pm
The RDE should have never made that play. Smith once again got blown by and Gregory was coming in hot from behind Winston. This O line is pitiful and both the RBs and QB are getting killed week after week.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:25 pm
Another bad game for Winston. 3 straight games now. The light on Jamie’s Winston looks very dim.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:26 pm
Winston has shown to be a great qb, especially in the red zone ..,Right??
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:26 pm
Great QBs find that way to win. They’re the “X factor” in the NFL. All the Winston homers just don’t get that he lacks this ability.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:28 pm
Magoo sucks. Do not pay him the $20 million. Let him go be a career back up somewhere else.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:29 pm
It’s a bad play that good players don’t make.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:29 pm
I’m so tired of hearing all the crying about the O-Line. All teams gives up sacks and QB pressures. Teams have some of the best DLine athlete talent in the world. They’re going to make some plays. If O-Line is good enough for Winston to throw for over 300+ yards, they’re good enough for Winston to be winning many more games than he is. FACE THE FACTS!
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:30 pm
Some of the most ridiculously ignorant and stupid statements I’ve ever read.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:31 pm
Haha Foles couldn’t beat a Mike Smith defense and fumbles inside his own 10 today giving Texans a easy score.
Yeah Foles single handedly won. Why even trot 10 other players out there.
I bet you Foles lovers were pumped about McCown too.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:32 pm
My NFL agent friends could beat up your NFL agent friends.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:33 pm
Cameron Brate has disappeared. A few days from him today could of made a difference.
My only memories of him have been screwups lately. Major underachiever.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:34 pm
This was a good loss. Now bucs pick 6 with chance to move up higher. Get rid of McCoy and draft Ed Oliver to pair with vita. Hopefully we can get a hard nosed HC and a run blocking scheme. Bucs are close.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:35 pm
BucsBandit: You are right all the playoff contenders have crappy O lines. That position isn’t important and doesn’t effect the RBs or QBs. Terrible thought process you have to think the bucs O line isn’t the problem with bucs offense
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:36 pm
BucBandit-My brother’s friend’s pizza delivery guy’s aunt’s dog walker said Jameis is going to be here for a long time. Who are your sources?
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:38 pm
You have to give the Cowboys DE Randy Gregory credit. He showed a lot of speed and determination on that play. And the speed of LB Jaylen Smith is unbelievable for a LB. It wasn’t a bad play by Jameis Winston. But a great play by the Cowboys Gregory and Smith.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:38 pm
That was a killer…and I’m rooting for Winston long term.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:41 pm
yeah stuff like that happens …but there are a whole lotta other bad critiques we could make about his game but that one he’s looking down field and he’s got the ball close to his body. Had he ben waving it around like a flagmen on an aircraft carrier I would criticize that play
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:41 pm
The playcalling and execution on offense sucked today as usual.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:43 pm
Jay-Miss is not the long term solution at QB. Simple as that.
That’s just one play. He underperformed all game, as he has all year, as he has for four years.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:46 pm
I disagree, Jameis doth sucketh. Donovan Smith is lazy and sucks worse. Jensen commits stupid penalties constantly, and doesn’t seem to care. Why does Warhop still have a job? More evidence of top down payment incompetence.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:47 pm
That corner throw he had to Mike that he dropped was still one of the nicer throws I’ve seen Jameis make but all anyone wants to talk about is the bad ones. Such a negative mindset.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:48 pm
Donovan (refuse to play R.T.) Smith makes every DE look fast and athletic.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:48 pm
JW is ignorant. This is why he turns the ball over. It is as simple as that. We win the game if he was not the starting QB. He then goes on to pad his stats due to playing catch-up from his turnovers. I can’t wait for the Bucs to whack this loser.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:52 pm
I am with you BucEmup todays play calling and execution just wasn’t there today. Hell hall of famer Brady screw up more than twice in games the pass 2 weeks
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:53 pm
Dotson kicks 3 yards off the ball at the snap for no reason and completely opens to the inside rush. Marpet gets his ass kicked. Jensen doesn’t set at all and stands there blocking air. Benenoch is lift out to dry by Dotson.
I’m not a Winston fan, but that wasnt his fault.
December 23rd, 2018 at 5:57 pm
If we are still having this massive debate after 4 yrs and 80 turnovers…time to move on. The milk has expired. Sorry Winston lovers…hes not the guy. Move on.
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:00 pm
No mention of your boy Donovan Smith? Weird
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:04 pm
You’re not going to find many DE with the talent of Randy Gregory
His problem is suspensions
I hope he stay clean, I hate to see wasted talent
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:05 pm
I have mixed feelings about that play…..but I lean toward it being on Jameis……he has to protect the ball under EVERY circumstance.
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:12 pm
You fans are some kind of pathetic stop blaming everything on the quarterback. Did you not see how fast that rush got there, how fast dude was coming, how big he is and how hard Winston got hit? Quarterbacks fumble and has an issue with fumbling but he got leveled. Everyone fumbles but they are all equal. This line is garbage and no one in the front office or coaching staff wants to admit it. People who can’t do what these players do criticize the most it’s so odd
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:16 pm
Joe you are an idiot. You say you can’t have it both ways; you also say that the Bucs need to score touchdowns. The defensive player ran a complete loop from the left side of the field to the right side of the field to sack the QB. That is unheard of. Jameis did not hold the ball for four seconds; he dropped back, and began to run his for his life. No time to make reads. What happened to protecting the QB? I forget, it Jameis?
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:18 pm
See Joe, your boy Winston has been making mistakes like this, for 4 YEARS NOW. When is it going to stop? He makes mistakes that constantly turn promising games into losses.
For once in 42 years, can this team have a great quarterback for once? Winston has never turned his “potential” into “execution.”
Meanwhile, Prescott is already taking to the postseason for a 2nd time and wrapped up a division title today.
Say hello to last place in the division for the 7th time in 8 years!
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:18 pm
Yeah, the Cowboys scored on that play, but that happened so early in the game, the team could’ve answered that by going down and getting a touchdown, but I think we went down and settled for getting a field goal. That play didn’t lose the game, not finishing the drives we had with 7, lost the game
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:19 pm
Buc fans should be ashamed of themselves. They are like strutting pigeons and do nothing but troll and talk sh!t. Dak Prescott threw for 161yds today but the Cowboys got a W because they played team football. How about all those drive-killing penalties from this oh-so-healthy offensive line? They are pure garbage, and it’s very frustrating. And the playcalling? Pff… you’re calling an end-around to a borderline practice squad player inside your own 20 yard line! You can’t punch it in from the 1 yard line on 2nd and 1… How many times is this offensive system going to call for the quarterback to throw 45+ times? Jameis is not Aaron Rodgers and I don’t fault him for that, but this staff clearly thinks that he is and it shows.
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:20 pm
I still hope he leaves you all. But are you all upset they lost today? Wouldn’t have helped in the least.
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:21 pm
I still hopes he leave you all. But why is everyone upset with the loss. It doesn’t help to win at this point AT ALL.
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:24 pm
You live by the sword you die by the sword…. Tuck it & run Forrest!!!
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:27 pm
We beat the super bowl champs and arguably the best team in the NFL saints at their home stadium
Doesn’t get any better than that for a Bucs fan
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:30 pm
One thing that did disturb me today. In his recent success running it JW has taken to putting both hands on the ball. Today and especially during the fumble it was back in just his right hand.
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:45 pm
Muncher looks like you lost your tongue. How do you defend your boy todsy???
Another 150 garbage yards to add to his stats that don’t mean shat
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:48 pm
Joe why is my comment not posting theres no cussing in it unless pathetic and sad af bandwagon fans is a problem
You used a curse word in it. –Joe
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:49 pm
Guess that wasnt the problem lol
December 23rd, 2018 at 6:56 pm
I just reread n deleted the abbreviated word n still wont go through I’ll check it again. My phone knows me so well autocorrect will slide them in for me 🤷♂️
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:01 pm
If Donovan Smith doesn’t get his lunch money taken, Jameis gets away and makes a pretty pass downfield.
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:03 pm
I’m a winston fan but it was on his rt and him. If RT woulda done his job this doesnt happen but at same time winston held the ball to long after the pressure looking for a play (which he does a lot thinking he can always make the play) sometimes u just got to run or throw it away. At times he seems to be getting better n other times it seems he never will. I expect he’ll be our QB for 2019 but if he doesn’t get alot better at leading the wr and turnovers then the bucs will draft a qb in 2020. There isnt many options for next year so yall need to except hes our qb for at the very least one more year. Also bucbandit he doesnt have a low football IQ come on man u dont have to make up stuff theres true things to hate if u want but that is just false af. Even chucky said he had a high football IQ the year we drafted him. Also ppl we suck this year n have for years that’s why we got him in the draft at the #1 spot but all the negativity and hate before the game or season for that matter even starts is pathetic. That’s not being much of a fan.
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:03 pm
Also Idk wtf you’re talking about Joe, If Jameis had taken off running on this play Jaylin Smith would still have been in perfect position to lay him the F out. Donovan Smith is the what killed this play. It’s so beyond obvious to see it as well. He gets beaten not once but twice.
Been saying it since last season, his feet are too slow to ever be able to defend against any kind of speed rush.
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:05 pm
Found it Joe sorry my phone corrected the word to the correct spelling of a curse word 🤷♂️
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:20 pm
Winston looks like possibly like a bad team’s backup
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:23 pm
Totally his fault. And more of the same. How many times do we have to see this guy fumble. If the Winston supporters have their way another whole season. If you love Winston you can’t love the Bucs it’s that simple people.
December 23rd, 2018 at 7:34 pm
Same old Jameis.
December 23rd, 2018 at 8:05 pm
Nah. Sry Joe, that ones not on him.
December 23rd, 2018 at 8:10 pm
Jameis will wear a lot of different uniforms in his NFL career, I see him as having a future on the same track as Byron Leftwich had……Journeyman Backup
December 23rd, 2018 at 8:12 pm
So the defense held another team under 20 points and the offense Lead by Jameis Winston Still Lost. Keep making up excuses and blaming everybody except him. Sorry nobody can anymore.
December 23rd, 2018 at 8:16 pm
Foles for the future, unless you guys like it in the basement…. If thats the case lets keep Winston.
December 23rd, 2018 at 8:30 pm
We need an insurance policy! Time to draft another QB. Let Winston and the rookie battle it out in training camp and preseason. There’s just no solid evidence that Winston is ever going to be anything more than what he is now…a mid-level QB with turnover issues on the field, and character issues off it! It’s too risky to put all your eggs in that basket.
December 23rd, 2018 at 8:45 pm
blind side hit! what are you guys looking at? that was a great defensive play
December 23rd, 2018 at 8:59 pm
This was the day, Tampa Bay area’s biggest Winston supporter Buc1987 gave up on Jameis Winston once and for all.
That play. I did not shut up about that fumble all day long and how much I wanted Jameis Winston GONE. I’m done with him. 4 years in and he’s clueless.
Blow the whole dayum thing up and NEVER draft another first round QB again. Get a proven one in FA or something just don’t do that again.
December 23rd, 2018 at 9:38 pm
87″
But freakin’ time – I’ve been waiting for you to give up.
December 23rd, 2018 at 9:40 pm
*Bout freakin’ time – I’ve been waiting for you to give up.
December 23rd, 2018 at 9:45 pm
Smith was useless on that play. Tried to wash the DE but he doesn’t move his feet at all so he doesn’t push him wide enough….. We need OL help badly!!!
December 23rd, 2018 at 10:20 pm
It’s the QB’s clock and ball SECURITY. All excuses have been exhaust.
December 23rd, 2018 at 11:05 pm
http://www.nfl.com/player/dougmartin/2532899/careerstats
No correlation huh?
Oline is garbage and so are all of you armchair qbs
December 23rd, 2018 at 11:07 pm
The other team gets paid too.
December 23rd, 2018 at 11:19 pm
Luvmybucs – take a look at Troy Aikman’s / Emitt smith’s stats and explain to me how he’s qualified to talk about a team with a bad oline. The 90’s cowgirls are literally the gold standard in offensive lines.
December 24th, 2018 at 1:15 am
I hope Jamies leave this trash franchise a d this trash fan base. All the teams that’s wining has a good coach and a running game we don’t have that . Look how every team line up against us they do not respect our running game. If we would have had a running back we will win but Jamies is the scapegoat he’s a black quarterback and that’s just the way it is for them. And you can call it race card all yall want but if the bucs let him go. Then yall will be blaming him as well if he’s black. And I have proof of it look at the national media. Ain’t no quarterback is going to win with no running game or 7 steps drop backs on every play . But this is the south!!!!
December 24th, 2018 at 4:14 am
Oneibucs:I hope Jamies leave this trash franchise a d this trash fan base
I hope you get your wish, and Jameis leaves this trash franchise,also. Especially after yesterday
December 24th, 2018 at 6:12 am
So, I guess the playclock is racist too!
December 24th, 2018 at 6:24 am
Oneilbucs., I hope you get your wish about Jameis leaving this trash franchise.
December 24th, 2018 at 7:50 am
I’ve have never said Jamies was perfect. He mess up yesterday with the play clock . But when your running back has 18 carries for 43 yards that’s a problem as well but no one never talk about that . When Andrew Luck didn’t have a running game people or a o line they gave him a pass whe his defense was bad they gave him a pass, when he throws 4 interceptions they gave him a pass for that as well. Now that Nick Foles is playing better than wentz they say the change the play book for him. But with Jamies and Fitzpatrick they never talk about the play book changing for Fiz like they do for Wentz and Foles . They never say the team rather Foles then Wentz. Now there goes your proof that it is harder on a black quarterback than a white quarterback .
December 24th, 2018 at 8:36 am
Oneilbucs , you say you cant wait until Jameis leaves the bucs.well I,hope you get your wish as probably a lot of folks here do,to.
December 24th, 2018 at 8:52 am
Just hope the next quarterback is white cause he will get more of a chance than a black quarterback maybe it will be cause of the running game and better coaching just like they do for the Andrew Lucks and the Wentzes of the NFL.
December 24th, 2018 at 9:17 am
It’s situational football. It’s not a long 3rd down and you’re in plus territory/field range. Dirk should be telling Jameis to get rid of it quickly or look to pick it up with your legs if the route isnt open. Jameis has used his legs extremely well since coming back to the starting line up. He should have used them here. Somethings just not right with #America right now.
December 24th, 2018 at 10:35 am
Just rollin my eyeballs
December 24th, 2018 at 1:16 pm
What… JW protect the ball? No! TIme to stop protecting him and send him on his way. Best wishes somewhere else.
December 24th, 2018 at 10:20 pm
This story and the responses on both sides of the spectrum are proof as to why NONE of you are working for a professional sports franchise