Jameis Is “Worth It”
December 3rd, 2018
Earning his keep.
It seems one national stenographer covering the NFL is leaning towards giving Team Glazer props if they keep America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
Ohio State and Boston honk Albert Breer isn’t willing to buy in that Bucs Bit-O-Honey-snacking, Ozark-watching, yams-eating coach Dirk Koetter is on his Redemption Tour. And Breer is of the mind the seat under the rump of Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht is also hot.
But when it comes to Jameis, Breer said, the way he has been playing the Bucs should keep Jameis and his 2019 contract option — which a lot of fans think is outrageous — is actually a fair salary.
Jameis Winston’s been … not terrible … the last three weeks, completing 61-of-84 (72.6 percent) of his throws for 760 yards, six touchdowns and a single pick. I’d still expect Bucs coach Dirk Koetter to be gone (I’m a little less sure on GM Jason Licht), which means Koetter’s successor will have an interesting decision to make on whether or not to hang on to the former No. 1 overall pick. Winston’s option for next year is set at $20.9 million, which would make him the NFL’s 14th highest paid player at the position (as 2019 contracts stand right now). It might actually be worth it for the Bucs to go through with the option, just to see what they have, since you know the talent is there.
Exactly. Jameis has proven he can play at this level, and play at a high level. Why on earth would someone want to throw him overboard for a stiff like Tyrod Taylor or a college quarterback that you have no idea can play on the NFL level when you already have Jameis.
This absolutely baffles Joe to no end how some cannot rest at night until Jameis is jettisoned from the roster.
You know, the franchise leader in touchdowns passes?
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:03 pm
4 turnovers and they barely beat the panthers…. pfft
they beat the browns, barely…pffft..
a 36 year old played better against much better teams.
he aint worth it, and he is unreliable on and off the field.
only thing he is good for is clicks.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:07 pm
Dirk has Jameis playing like a game manager, ala, Alex Smith. This is not Jameis nature, but as he can see it wins games in the NFL when you have talent around you, how will it p,ay out when the stakes are high and we gotta make plays to win the game (the ill-advises long pass to d-Jax at the end of the Giants game that was picked). I know time was moving, but if I’m going sideline, I got bigger and better targets downfield.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:11 pm
Jameis definitely is worth that. All these loony toons in town trying to run him off just doesn’t make sense to me.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:12 pm
The “most NFL ready accepted to Stanford academically “…is finally deciding to play like that…did you notice on one of his scrambles near the goal line his two arm cover up of the ball as he realized the tackle was near….I really liked that
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:12 pm
Jameis is not the problem with the Bucs and I’m quite sure the last thing a new coach would want is to gamble on a new QB…
I’m also quite sure that if they are keeping Jameis…..that improves Koetter’s chances of staying.
Here is what is facing the Glazers.
Stick with Koetter and hope he turns out….
Complete overhaul and hope it turns out….
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:13 pm
20 mil for next season has always been a no-brainer. That’s just what QB’s make.
@Robert
Did you watch that 35 yr old play the Panthers a few weeks ago? Penalties and missed assignments by the O-line killed a lot of scoring drives yesterday or else the score would’ve been much worse.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:19 pm
JW has shown playing within the system and just taking what the D gives you will win a lot of games in this league. He is finally learning to play under control at 24 years old and we are going to run him off?
Had he kept playing recklessly after this last benching, then cut the chord, but the guy has come back with a much better mentality and is actually controlling his emotions and thoughts not just on the field but in front of the camera.
I was ready to throw in the towel, but the kid has shown definite signs of turning it around. There is absolutely no doubt in his physical ability, it has always been between the ears for JW.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:21 pm
I’m so torn… I’m leaning to giving them all another year and most likely clean house in a year. We start over a lot.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:21 pm
5 year 145 million sounds about right
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Hopefully there is a new GM here in Tampa and that will have to be his first decision, as stated above, dirk has jameis playing in the brad johnson mold of take a sack dont throw or do those stupid plays you are known for since FSU. The new GM has to fully investigate if jameis 3 sexual assault allegations are a trend or just a youthful misjudgment and then decide if that is who he and the glazers want to shell out $100 million to
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:22 pm
MAQBGA
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:26 pm
100% agree
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:26 pm
“Jameis has proven he can play at this level”
2 games, 2 games that’s all I’m saying! He’s played light’s-out for 2 games.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:27 pm
Lol touchdowns leader (81) elite joe? Brady has 50+ in one season the f out of here
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:27 pm
Lock him up with behavior clauses for 22.5 mil a year. Rodgers and M Ryan are living proof if you put to much cash into the QB position other positions falter. QB is but one piece of the 53 man puzzle. Money will need to be allocated to the OL especially. Don’t make the same mistake the Packers and Falcons have made. Tom Brady makes about 20 million a year.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:32 pm
I’m convinced (now ) that Jameis needs another year. Still not sure he’s the long term answer. I’m as excited about his play as the next Bucs fan, but you have to look at his body of work on and off the field. This is not the Jameis of old. Let’s see how long this will last. The rest of the year and at least one more year.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:35 pm
Robert,
He didn’t fumble at the goalline, barber did, or it would have been 31pts.Jameis did his job!
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:52 pm
Jameis ain’t coming back here, he may but he should be packing and headed to the big apple where he’d actually be appreciated. If he’s back next year I’ll have to have a word with his agent.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:53 pm
James not only overcame the fumble at the goal line…..he overcame multiple holding and Offensive PI penalties…….a line that couldn’t run block and the protection broke down often……dropped passes.
Jameis did quite well….took the sacks….tucked the ball and ran……looked good.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:57 pm
Jameis was good. Not splash-play, fantastic, Aaron-Rodgers like good, but good. He did the main thing we needed him to do, which was not turn the ball over. We would not have won with 1-2 interceptions thrown by Jameis.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:00 pm
Jameis did his job ….agreed…..The only reason I would keep him is there is nothing sensational on the draft or either the free agency at the QB position…… The guy is talented and in some areas he has sensational numbers, but in some others are far from acceptable……..When the time comes will be an interesting decition to make……..
Same as the HC position, there are some pros and cons, in this case I have a strong opinion, KEEP THE COACH, this team has been much less talented in lasts years than we think……..Thats been thr problem!!!!
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:08 pm
Robert with the dumb comment of the day. Your 36 year old couldnt even beat a Washington roster that was literally missing half its roster. You’re 36 year old got pulled as he couldnt complete a pass against a 2 win giants team. Your 36 year old is 2-6 this season with one win over a team with a winning record ,so please tell us again why fitz is better outside our your winston derangement syndrom.?
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:09 pm
Poor Roberto. You have to be losing steam now as you clearly can see the dude is looking more and more like a franchise QB. It is time for you to STFU now!
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:12 pm
Anyone else start two games this season and play great? So two games is the measuring stick?
Jameis has looked good. No denying it. But he hasn’t proven he’s reliable. If you’re gonna bring back Jameis might as well bring back Koetter. Then you got another yr of the same thing we just had.
I like Jameis when he plays In the system. But he still took stupid sacks yesterday. He still can’t throw the ball away. He still has a voice screaming at him in his head to throw the ball…you can do it…throw it…Evans has been standing still for three seconds…throw it to him…don’t worry about those three guys standing around him…it’s a sure thing…LOL. If he matures maybe he’s a gold mine. IF…
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:14 pm
Winston’s best is still to come. I think it would be a shame to let him go elsewhere and need to spend resources yet again searching for the elusive “Franchise QB….. especially when we need to improve the OL.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:18 pm
Cgmaster27a Says:
“Robert with the dumb comment of the day.”
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Why should today be different than any other day?
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:19 pm
Pick up his option. Let’s hope everyone has learned from their mistakes on and off the field including the staff. We need to eventually be patient and let this team become a contender.
If they don’t make playoffs next season, then maybe it is time to move on…. besides, no great QB’s hitting the draft from what I can tell….at least none better than what we have.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:21 pm
fitz has bling
case closed!
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:23 pm
Rayjay1122 Says:
“Winston’s best is still to come.”
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Agreed 100%
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:40 pm
Anyone who wants Winston gone needs to ask “for whom?”
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:43 pm
I can’t believe anyone it their right mind would think of getting rid of Jameis. I’ve been a Bucs fan since 1976 and I have never seen the Bucs scoring points like they are now. And if we get Kareen Hunt off Waivers we will be the best offense in the league next year.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:53 pm
Fitz has bling….LOL
I like Fitz but he is what he is. The only bling we should care about is the bling on a Super bowl ring!!! Nuff said.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:53 pm
Hey Robert, who cares how many points the Bucs win by? This ain’t college buddy. And we got ripped on a TD by Barber.
I don’t remember anybody discounting opposing teams when we threw 4 interceptions and lost by 7 or less. Geez man, just be happy with the division win and be a freakin fan.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:54 pm
Robert teases on Jameis because he has a man-crush on him. He’s jealous it’s not his crotch that’s being grabbed.
December 3rd, 2018 at 2:05 pm
Of course it’s worth it to pick up the option. The Bucs need to explore all options before they commit to a $120+ million dollar contract. At the moment, he is not worth that contract. NFL teams should only give that kind of money to QBs that are proven winners or else you end up having guys like Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dalton as your franchise guy.
December 3rd, 2018 at 2:21 pm
Hey DB55, how many multi Int fumble game in the Big Apple do you think it would take for the Big Apple journalist to raise the roof if he were to go there? 1-3 and then look out. That place is not Tampa Florida.
Another good game by Jamise Winston, Yay! I hope he has learned a very valuable lesson in his multiple benchings this season. NFL= Not For Long if you are not playing good football.
December 3rd, 2018 at 2:54 pm
Joe,
the same people that want Jamies jettisoned from the roster are the same mouth breathers who thought Glennon was great and that still haven’t figured out that nose boogers aren’t one of the basic food groups.
You give them WAY too much real estate in your articles.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:02 pm
I will say… its better that he’s not throwing crazy passes when getting pressure and taking the sack… it would be even better if he were able to throw the ball away and not take the sack… but it’s an improvement.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Jameis has played well and his mobility has improved. Still three games to play in ’18 . If he plays like he has the last two games then he should get 2019 at a minimum. He will be playing against pretty good defenses ,so a good effort will make his case.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:15 pm
So 2 good games and Jamis is a hero and Kotter is a zero. At least according to the Joe’s. I hope they win out just so Joe has to deal with it for another year. Right now I don’t think Kotter is any worse than the other options. But he will get fired and in 3 years we will be right back here. Joe is pro Jamis and anti Kotter. Perhaps Kotter sitting Jamis snapped him to the reality that if he keeps throwing picks he does more harm than good.
At least Ira has class.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:22 pm
@scorps1234
who is Kotter?
😉
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:24 pm
Jameis needs to be gone to New York and play to his potential. Bucs should pickup Tyrod Taylor and draft Feleipe Franks. That will make the Gator part of their fanbase much happier.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:32 pm
No doubt.
This hasn’t been a fluke we’ve seen in Jameis’ great play we’ve seen over the past few weeks. You can tell he’s finally starting to be smart and safe with the ball and using his legs that helped him so much win a heisman and National Championship. Koetter’s playbook is basic and weak and he is not fit for a HC position in the NFL. Bring in a good offensive coach that knows both sides of the ball and knows how to put together a good coaching staff.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:39 pm
Gettinthebucs Says:
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:11 pm
Jameis definitely is worth that. All these loony toons in town trying to run him off just doesn’t make sense to me.
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I’m with you.
In fact I would take it a step further.
If Jamies continues to play like he has the last three weeks over the remainder of the season I would look into doing an extension with him.
The people saying get rid of him are nuts.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:49 pm
Alteredego,
“NFL ready” pre draft analysis across the board agreed. 4yrs in the “could benefit greatly from another year in college” crowd appears correct.
. “Accepted to Stanford academically ” , Lol there’s no way to get in without being academically accepted. Wow…stunning.. So that’s a great deal of nothing. “Accepted”…that’s mythical as unicorns and mermaids and just as true. I thought when winston was quoted as saying He didn’t know anything about stanford and zero about the schools academic reputation for excellence that would have been a little nudge to get people thinking. But no sir and you’re the latest evidence that details and procedures re. recruiting and admissions is as mysterious as the Bermuda triangle and the story is better than the contradictory facts that render the story to the fiction bin at Barnes and Nobles. That’s a store that sells books…
Jameis doesn’t need hyperbole and fictional storytelling to boost his stock. His play and obvious upside potential is quite sufficient to stand alone.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:54 pm
Lol it took us 15+ years of qb failure and aborted attempts to find a quality guy, throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. We tried everything, we tried Garcia and ol no-spleen, we missed on a high drafted qb in Freeman, we even tried both mccowns!!!
We finally get a guy with good ability, and the potential to be great, and Bucs fans want to throw him under the bus at age 24 when his best play is ahead of him. What the heck?!
Some Bucs fans WANT the team to fail. They must enjoy having something to whine about on the internet. Hey guys, STOP being like a battered spouse who can’t help but return home for more abuse. The path to salvation is here, but y’all gonna have to get out of your own way to walk down it. The paths name is JAMEIS.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:55 pm
And oh yeah – keep Koetter, the greatest offensive mind in Bucs history and get him a good DC. Playoffs.
December 3rd, 2018 at 5:15 pm
If you bring Winston back you have to bring Keotter back. It’s his offense. Are you going to have Jameis learn a whole new offense in his contract year? No. Bring everyone back for one last failure. Then we can jettison Winston and all his fanboys…finally.
One more year!
December 3rd, 2018 at 5:17 pm
Tua in 2020!
December 3rd, 2018 at 5:22 pm
After watch Cam and Matty Ice.play yesterday.
You gotta keep the 2nd best QB in the division with Brezz about to age out.
Cant see a.better talent available…
December 3rd, 2018 at 6:03 pm
Jameis is only 6th in the NFL in QBR. Dump him.
December 3rd, 2018 at 6:09 pm
Jameis and Licht should stay. Dirk needs to win every game just to be considered. I’m a little nervous over how bad it broke him letting Mike Smith go. Anyone in a business that gets that emotionally attached to someone else clouds their judgement ( keeping Mike Smith for 3 years rather than 1…all the way until AFTER the bye week) . Lets beat the Saints and continue this shall we?
December 3rd, 2018 at 6:18 pm
FreeTheSecretWeapon Says:
“After watch Cam and Matty Ice.play yesterday.
You gotta keep the 2nd best QB in the division”
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Very well said, man.
December 3rd, 2018 at 6:37 pm
Clarence…spot on. Go Bucs!
December 3rd, 2018 at 6:42 pm
Jameis is starting to see the value in being careful with the ball and using his legs. To me, he seems to be getting it. Yes, a few games is a small sample size, but it is amazing how facing losing your job can sharpen the mind.
December 3rd, 2018 at 7:49 pm
Jameis is good for turnovers, but more importantly, he is good for massive clicks on this site, life is going to be a lot more boring on this site when he’s gone
December 3rd, 2018 at 8:36 pm
Man Jamies have played well in the league. He’s 24 years old and yall act like he’s been in the league for 8 years.
December 3rd, 2018 at 9:39 pm
$20 mil is the floor for a starting QB. Pay the man!!!