Interesting Pronoun Elimination By Dirk Koetter
December 13th, 2018
It was all “we,” “we,” “we,” yesterday when Dirk Koetter was talking about his current team.
And that changed when the head coach starting talking about 2019.
In the moment it sure felt to Joe like Koetter was subtly expressing that he doesn’t expect to be with Tampa Bay next season.
At the close of Koetter’s Wednesday news conference, he was asked about the new announcement that the Bucs would play a home game at a venue out of the country in 2019.
Koetter said those overseas games are usually enjoyed by players. And when he referenced next year, he dropped the “we” pronoun and actually referred to the team as “The Bucs.” Joe can’t remember Koetter ever doing that.
“For right now, you know, we’re trying to focus on Baltimore,” Koetter said. “We got our hands full with Baltimore. That’s something that’s going to happen in the future. And when the Bucs get to that point in the season next year, I’m sure it will be good.”
Yes, Joe realizes this is a simple subtlety in Koetter’s choice of language, but Joe finds it to be a notable shift in Koetter’s delivery. Perhaps Koetter already knows he’ll be fired?
December 13th, 2018 at 11:04 am
Licht need to go also !!!
December 13th, 2018 at 11:06 am
JOE quotes Dirk
“….and when the Bucs get to that point in the season next year…”
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You are definitely right on the money, JOE. – I don’t believe it is just a subtle choice of language. – He just sounds…. defeated, and like he knows he is gone.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:06 am
what if dirk resigns at halftime during the final game of the season…that’s the type of move “adam from ny” would do…
#CanYouDigIt #SaidCyrusFromTheWarriors
December 13th, 2018 at 11:07 am
and goes to the other side of the field to hang with the arthur blank gang and his old cronies
December 13th, 2018 at 11:07 am
^^ But you would never work in the NFL again, Adam.
I am sure you were just kidding.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:10 am
adam from ny, maybe Fitz will fire Koetter at halftime and take over like Varsity Blues.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:17 am
^^ Haha Ken,,,,,, or Richard Winters on the WWII battlefield in “Band of Brothers”, when he has to relieve that guy of command in mid battle and call on Spears to take over the charge…
“SPEARS, GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE!!!!”
December 13th, 2018 at 11:19 am
Yeah Joe, I think you’re right. He either knows or strongly suspects it.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:24 am
Koetter is a good man. I like him and really wish it had worked here.
But I think he is a little prone to defeatism sometimes, as he actually is expressing here…. and sometimes (lets be honest) he sort of displays it on the sidelines too, subconsciously.
I think it rubs off on the players into that “Oh no, here we go again” vibe. It is hard to get rid of that, and it is contagious.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:31 am
I hope you guys realize that a new coach may not what Jameis as his QB! Who would want to inherit this mess?? There are too many QB’s out there with less baggage who can tie you over while you groom YOUR QB to lead YOUR team….
December 13th, 2018 at 11:33 am
^ You are correct, Wombat, no doubt. I definitely want Jameis here, but fully realize that a new coach & regime could elect to go with their own guy.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:37 am
@adam from ny:
Love the reference. Warriors! Come out to pllaayyy!
December 13th, 2018 at 11:38 am
SPEARS, GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE!!!!”
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Possibly one of the greatest scenes EVER!!!
I think Tb fans have a false sense that people want to be here. Maybe Dirks had enough and rather watch girls volleyball.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:41 am
Let us all weep for poor Koetter.
He certainly acts like he thinks he deserves it.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:44 am
This should come as a shock to absolutely NOBODY. He did not perform at his job, simple as that. It’s not personal.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:54 am
Licht needs to go before DK! Get a jump on the GM search.
December 13th, 2018 at 11:59 am
All that Koetter has to do is read things on this site to know he will be fired.
Hopefully Licht and Winston start reading it also
December 13th, 2018 at 12:08 pm
So this is what I think happens next year. Koetter will be replaced (and before everyone get too excited how well has this strategy worked for us the past 10 years) and I don’t think Monken sticks around. My guess is someone will take a flier on him and give him a HC job. Light has a 30% chance depending partially if ownership insisted on moving up to draft the kicker.
Jameis will stick for one more season and is the reason Koetter is gone. Jameis and his development is more important to the team than anything else, period. Koetter has had four years and has not been successful. Don’t get me wrong I think he tried very hard, could have succeeded, should have succeeded and right now broke Jameis. The new coach will work with him for one year (and no I don’t think there is any fixing him) and then the team will move on. The next coach does not want to be the next Koetter and that means giving Jameis a shot but if he can’t hack it move on.
At that point I think Light unless he did something amazing is gone too. His body of work has great successes but also dismal failures. I am giving him the full benefit of the doubt that he built the team the way he was instructed to by ownership. Makes sense since they love Jameis for some reason and want to give him every toy possible. This led to horribly unbalanced drafts. FWIW this love also got Koetter his gig.
So to sum it up they need to slap a picture of Jameis on the side of their helmets because that is what it has and is all about. Even so I think he has 1 year left to be effective or move on.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:13 pm
Why do those European games have to count as home games? Why can’t they simply be away games for both teams because, you know, they will both be away from home. It seems fishy.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
The is quite a reach….
December 13th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
I don’t think they both will be fired. It’s either one or the other, if it’s Koetter then they believe we have enough talent to succeed. If it’s Licht then Koetter couldn’t succeed because of Licht not giving him what he needed to succeed.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:18 pm
I also believe the next coach will have to believe in Winston, atleast to some extent, before he’s hired.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:26 pm
Winston stays only if Arians is hired. I think Joel Segal gets Winston out of his 5th yr option and moves him to Jacksonville but wtfdik
December 13th, 2018 at 12:28 pm
Ptwalk Says:
December 13th, 2018 at 12:18 pm
I also believe the next coach will have to believe in Winston, atleast to some extent, before he’s hired.
the only one I can think of is Lovie Smith and he has probably changed his mind by now….
NO football coach would come to Tampa if Jameis is the QB…
L&K&Jamyth will all be here in 2019
this time next year it will be very clear if they’ll be back for 2020 with new contracts
December 13th, 2018 at 12:29 pm
has anyone concluded that maybe the bucs are gonna move to london???…let’s revisit this thought…
your now “ybor city buccaneers” might just become the the “belfast buccaneers”…
#LetsWatchBennyHillAndGoToTheGame
December 13th, 2018 at 12:33 pm
well now that harbaugh knows he’s out in baltimore, he sat his homie joe flacco and said “rest up and stay healthy joey, you’re coming with me to tampa bay”…that’s what’s really going on in baltimore…
#StayHealthyFlacco #WereOffToTampa #KeepFlaccoHealthyForNextSeason
December 13th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
Adam
Bruce Arians and Jameis are down like 4 flat tires. He also has ties to Licht. So there’s that….plus Arians took a garbage Cardinals team and made them a contender with Carson Palmer of all people.
December 13th, 2018 at 12:51 pm
dirk knew he shouldve been canned last year….even he was surprised he was retained…..
he deserves to get fired…..he failed to develop winston…players have regressed under dirk…..no adjustments….the list goes on and on….
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
December 13th, 2018 at 12:59 pm
Keep Koetter add REAL talent, get rid of GM!!!!
December 13th, 2018 at 1:06 pm
Anyone remember last year opponents were saying Dirk’s scheme was very basic and almost high schoolish?
December 13th, 2018 at 1:16 pm
Koetter is the scapegoat flavor of the week now?
December 13th, 2018 at 1:18 pm
Adam from NY, you do realize that Belfast is in another country than London? Or maybe we should be the Calgary Buccaneers of Tampa?
December 13th, 2018 at 1:22 pm
Wonbat and Demon, who exactly would these new coaches deem as their “guy?” You two act like franchise QBs are a dime a dozen. The Bucs went basically 30 years without one. They ain’t that easy to find and Jameis is a good QB right now who could improve over time. He will probably be one of the few reasons a good coach might want to come here.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:22 pm
LMAO Wombat
December 13th, 2018 at 1:23 pm
@TouchDownTampaBay,
Sorry man but you are preaching to the choir. I have been a Jameis fan for a long time and have said so on here forever. I would not replace him for one second. I believe his greatest days are still coming and when they do, I want them to be right here in Tampa Bay.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:36 pm
TDTampaBay, I don’t know, maybe Flacco or Folds off the top of my head. I just think a “new” coach wouldn’t want the S*Show that’s been going on here at QB… Then again I don’t get paid to make those decisions 😉
December 13th, 2018 at 1:44 pm
DB55
Bortles & Jameis
1-2 in interceptions since coming into the league…You think Jax is gonna replace Bortles with..Bortles?
December 13th, 2018 at 1:51 pm
Tampa Bay Demon Says:
December 13th, 2018 at 11:24 am
Koetter is a good man. I like him and really wish it had worked here.
But I think he is a little prone to defeatism sometimes, as he actually is expressing here…. and sometimes (lets be honest) he sort of displays it on the sidelines too, subconsciously.
I think it rubs off on the players into that “Oh no, here we go again” vibe. It is hard to get rid of that, and it is contagious.
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100% Demon! He def shows it in press conferences as well.
This is one of my biggest problems with Koetter, and the main reason I no longer support him being our HC.
December 13th, 2018 at 1:52 pm
Watch the KC QB tonight
and the Ravens
QB on Sunday
combined have less NFL PT than Jamyth
December 13th, 2018 at 4:16 pm
DB55-Arians would make a good GM, but I don’t think his family will want him coaching, IMO. He’s got health issues. If someone could “fix” Jameis, it’s Arians.
I’m all in with Arians in ANY capacity.
Hokie alum!
December 13th, 2018 at 4:45 pm
^^ Well said on ALL fronts, Bucsfanman.
December 13th, 2018 at 4:46 pm
DB55,
Thanks for the shout-out on the SPIERS reference!
Huge “Band of Brothers” fan…
Go BUCS!
December 13th, 2018 at 6:00 pm
Great catch. When I work with customers it’s ‘we’ ‘we’ ‘we’ ALL THE WAY HOME.
I wouldn’t remove my self from the future equation unless I knew something would be different. For sure interesting.
Keep up the great work Joe(s.)
December 13th, 2018 at 11:06 pm
Remember last year when all the Gruden talk was going on and emo Dirk was having a meltdown talking about “if” he would still be here and Winston had to give him a pep talk so he’d stop basically crying. How embarrassing.
Anywho Dirk knows he’s fired, he’s been wanted to be fired since the Glazers forced him to get rid of his buddy Mike Smith. He wants that paid vacation on the beach.
December 14th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
Wombat that was pretty funny the Belfast comment. I guess Adam from NY doesn’t realize that the Irish Republican Army in Belfast has been fighting the English for years.