“Good For Them”
December 8th, 2018
A media line of questioning irritated Dirk Koetter yesterday.
No surprise, but this one was a little more fun than most, and it’s timely.
For those unaware, the weather prognosticators predict a strong likelihood of thunderstorms and rain just before tomorrow’s Bucs-Saints game in Tampa, and there’s a good probability of rain during the game.
Of course, wet weather can seriously disrupt a football game. Just ask Josh McCown.
This week, the Saints went public regarding their preparations for a wet Sunday, work that included practicing with a wet ball. Yesterday, TheAthletic.com Bucs beat writer Greg Auman asked Koetter whether he had his players work with wet balls this week and advised him that the Saints did.
Koetter appeared irritated by the question, lightly shook his head, and replied, “Good for them.” The fun starts at about the 1 minute mark of the video below.
The optimist in Joe thinks the wet conditions should favor the Bucs. A little rain shouldn’t get in their heads as much as it might for a dome team like the Saints.
December 8th, 2018 at 11:31 am
This will be another perfect example of how one team is simply more prepared than the other. Its not the talent. Talent may dictate a win or a loss, but poor coaching will result in a flat on your face blowout.
Maybe Smitty has been gone long enough now that the funk has cleared and Koetter can concentrate fully on coaching rather than defending his best buds failing product.
Hey….at least we all finally feel pretty good about the kicker not screwing it up right!!!
December 8th, 2018 at 12:06 pm
The wet weather will favor the team that prepared for it and that has a stronger running game.
December 8th, 2018 at 12:10 pm
Amateur head coach trying to run half a team. Doesn’t affect the defense or special teams because he couldn’t even get d jack to return punts. Easy to argue we are gonna fire a coordinator not a head coach. Koetter hasn’t been around long enough to have that attitude and definitely hasn’t won enough
December 8th, 2018 at 12:11 pm
I don’t know if we get an early lead this defense may surprise us. Their feeling pretty good after last week! I will say this IF we beat the saints things are going get interesting and dicisions moving forward aren’t going to be so easy for the Glazers.
December 8th, 2018 at 12:24 pm
I’d agree with the coach in that the advantage goes to the offense knowing where they are going. Loose footing is the toughest pArt of playing in rainy conditions.
I’ve also heard coach’s talk before about how dunking a ball in water doesn’t mimic playing in bad weather. Won’t blame the coach if he believes it’s a waste of time to fill up buckets of water and making their balls moist. It could be our advantage if we are spending more time on more important things while the Saints are running around with hoses.
December 8th, 2018 at 12:26 pm
LOVE that pic!! It shows a REAL football coach (Peyton) and a pretend coach (Koetter)
December 8th, 2018 at 12:29 pm
good comment JimmyJack
What in this story could have been positive instead?
Joe just implied that Koetter isn’t near the prepared coach as a Sean Payton and many of the mindless readers hang onto every word like gospel. Joe was able stroke a negative response out of the first 3 comments. Mission accomplished I guess if that was Joe’s intention.
December 8th, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Jean I’ve noticed Joe doesnt do too much to get fans pumped up for gameday. Not that it’s his job. Some of the articles can be downright depressing(fair considering our team). Just think it would be nice to read more about an upcoming matchup the day before a huge game.
December 8th, 2018 at 12:52 pm
The difference in this game is HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE…
Yeah I said it….
#12thManRising
December 8th, 2018 at 1:00 pm
@Joe … “The optimist in Joe thinks the wet conditions should favor the Bucs.” Much as I’d love to share your optimism Joe, that’s a toughie to buy into. Have always believed that wet & windy conditions favor the (1) better rushing team; and (2) the better run defense.
Saints rushing offense is ranked #9 and their run defense is ranked #1. Bucs rushing offense is ranked #26 and our run defense is ranked #21. Saints have Ingram (467 yds rushing) & Kamara (742 yds rushing), while our Bucs have Barber (635 yds rushing), Rodgers (85 yds) & Jones (44 yds). Personally I’d much rather see the rain hold off so Bucs can focus on the passing game.
December 8th, 2018 at 1:26 pm
Some teams don’t do well in the rain no matter how bad the other team is. It’s gonna be close and let’s see if Winston can make this a hat trick for mistake free games.
December 8th, 2018 at 1:28 pm
Would any journalist ask Koetter, “Hey, did you practice in the sun? Cuz the Saints did.”
It’s a dumb question for a Florida team.
December 8th, 2018 at 2:35 pm
I think we are going to get absolutely throttled by the saints and will most likely spiral downward to Koetter’s firing. I can’t stand him as a coach because he’s whiny, passive aggressive, incompetent, and a blame deflector, quick to throw players under the bus publicly. He’s terrible and Klueless. Go home to your high chair in Idaho, with your high school football buddies who worship you. Terrible.
December 8th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
Hey Mike, why don’t you go root for another team. The season isn’t over. Worst fan base in the NFL.
December 8th, 2018 at 3:14 pm
Wet weather favors the team that doesn’t spend half the year in a dome and trains in Florida…
December 8th, 2018 at 3:14 pm
All this time talk about moist balls…….
I’m surprised webster hasn’t shown up.
December 8th, 2018 at 3:38 pm
“DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE?
There are spooky uncanny similarities that even a sheep cant ignore.
Go to your local library and rent out the movie “Forrest Gump”
Similarly and Prophetically we again we see Jason Gump and Lieutenant Dan Duffner facing adversary when the heavens open up in thunderstorms and downpours vs new Orleans.
CanT you see it? We again will see victory on the otherside. The heavens has spoken and will be the great equalizer
The greatest Quarterback performance in the rain weather will be displayed tomorrow
Jameis winston will be a Legend tomorrow”
Kobe Faker
December 8th, 2018 at 3:47 pm
Funny comparison Kobie! Man, I hope you’re right.
Buc fans would love to see the team put it together at just the right time towards the end of the season. RUN THE TABLE!!
And Jenny Gump would be saying RUN JAMEIS RUNNNNNNNN!!
December 8th, 2018 at 4:10 pm
I hope it monsoons Sunday since 70% of those in attendance will be Saints fans. Out of every game I have been to the Saints fans are the most obnoxious @$$ hats I have ever encountered. Go Bucs.
December 8th, 2018 at 4:22 pm
@GhostsOfSchiano
I live in Texas and Cowboys fans are by far the worst.
December 8th, 2018 at 5:34 pm
The Bucs defense has been much much better at home…
Or have they just played much worse QBs?
Home schedule QBs.. Foles, Big Ben (who had a big day), Mayfield, Alex Smith, the 5th string 49ers QB and an injured Newton.
Hum… so Big Ben is clearly the best QB to play the Bucs in Tampa and he destroyed the defense – however the defense is clearly much better without Chris Conte so that’s a big boost that he’s not around.
For Newton, he’s really not a good QB in the first place, he puts up good stats because he moves and can create time, but something was off with him considering he couldn’t get the ball downfield at the end of the game. Still the defense did a good job of shutting him down for the most part. As for the other QBs, they’ve mostly been bad. Alex Smith really had been ultraconservative in DC, the 49ers 5th-string QB has nice garbage time stats but when the game matters has looked like a 5th stringer, Mayfield had a decent-to-good game, and Foles, well, it was week 2 and he had guys wide open all day and flat out missed them.
But anywho the question was, are the Bucs better at home or have they just played bad QBs? Well, I think it’s both. I think they’re playing better mostly because the defensive line has been getting pressure lately – and if the Bucs can get pressure on Brees, outdoors, in the rain, the Bucs have a chance. Then again the Saints have a dramatically better running game, so even if Brees is shutdown by bad weather they can likely move the ball at ease versus our 9th string LBs and 5th string safeties. We shall see, but this is a difficult for game to see the Bucs pulling out – and I think their best hope is for good weather where there is a lot of passing since I think Winston can put up points, and if the defensive line keeps it up and the Saints are putting the ball in the air they have a chance at negative plays.
December 8th, 2018 at 5:35 pm
Hey Real Malloy- because I’ve earned the right to call it how I see it. Because I’ve been attending games as a Bucs fan since 1986. Because I have my picture taken with Vinny at a post draft signing party, when I was eight. Because I used to make my father stay to the end of the game during every blowout as a child hoping we would somehow come back. I know who Lars Tate and Wayne Haddix are. Because I’ve been watching for 32 years and because I think Koetter has a crap coaching personality and is not a solid leader. So don’t tell me about not having a loyal fanbase. And because I’m still occupying my time watching this side show- and mixing it up on here with people like you.
December 8th, 2018 at 5:40 pm
GhostofSchiano – Humm, I’ve rarely noticed Saints fans myself, then again I’m always in the lower bowl or in the club seats and I’m pretty sure Saints fans can’t afford anything but the upper most cheapest seats. Anywho, in my younger and poorer days I’d say the worst fans were Lions fans. I mean they root for the Lions, what do they have to be proud about or excited about? I was leaving a game, I think a Sunday Night game back when they were like the worst game of the week, and the Lions won. Anywho these Lions fans were grouped all together and changing Go Lions and having a good time so I walked up to a cop and told them that that group of people was taunting Bucs fans and throwing stuff at them and trying to start fights, so the cop ran over and made them disperse and break up the good time they were having. I loved it, it’s one of the highlights of my time as a fan, ruining the fun of those obnioxus Lions fans. Of course Packers are actually by far the worst, they’re just terrible, and back in the late 90s I took so much joy in taunting them and talking trash with them, not only at the stadium but the night before games when they’d flood Ybor City. What an incredibly fun time to be alive, before everyone had a camera on them 24/7 and when PC wasn’t in play, it was all fair game, including graphic descriptions of why they were called the Packers.
December 8th, 2018 at 7:39 pm
Mike totally on target regarding Koetter’s play calling and playing favorites. He single-handedly destroyed this season for the Bucs by not firing Smith in the off-season and catering to that cancer MeJax. Koetter stinks and so does Licht.
December 8th, 2018 at 9:24 pm
Mike…..calm down buddy. Eventually we’ll die and then the suffering will be over. Until then it’s Groundhog Day year after year. Personally, I’m going to learn how to speak French, play the piano, and hopefully by then we’ll be in the playoffs with Brady’s son as QB.
December 8th, 2018 at 10:13 pm
Hope brooks comes in and takes the talent already here to the winning seasons that the Bucs are due. As Bucs fans everyone knows what has been coming, dirk and Leight should and will be replaced. Hopefully it’ will Be with d Brooks and let him build a coaching staff that can take these guys to the playoffs for numerous years. Look this offense can be one of the best ever the parts and talent are there. The defense is good enough. The defensive scheme was bad as a whole with Smith. The defense has been playing well the past month.they deserve credit, they are banged up but responding to good coaching. The d line has improved and shown up on sundays which is a change. Bucs need a real coach that can take the talent to the promise land. D Brooks is what we need to make this team a winner. He’s will turn us back into winners.
GO BUCS
December 8th, 2018 at 10:14 pm
Hope brooks comes in and takes the talent already here to the winning seasons that the Bucs are due. As Bucs fans everyone knows what has been coming, dirk and Leight should and will be replaced. Hopefully it’ will Be with d Brooks and let him build a coaching staff that can take these guys to the playoffs for numerous years. Look this offense can be one of the best ever the parts and talent are there. The defense is good enough. The defensive scheme was bad as a whole with Smith. The defense has been playing well the past month.they deserve credit, they are banged up but responding to good coaching. The d line has improved and shown up on sundays which is a change. Bucs need a real coach that can take the talent to the promise land. D Brooks is what we need to make this team a winner. He’s will turn us back into winners.
GO BUCS
December 8th, 2018 at 10:41 pm
Yeah, Brooks will build a winner. Guaranteed.
Didn’t Brooks run the Storm into the ground so badly that Vinik shut the operation down?
December 9th, 2018 at 12:02 am
Ah, come on Joe. Play that video again from last year when Satan Peyton was about to kick Smirk Koetter’s azz after the game. That freakin video is priceless…
December 9th, 2018 at 1:12 am
the pic shows sean payton throw his best alvin kamara type stiff arm at dirk, as he moseys off the field…when an opposing coach stiff arms you as he exits your house, you go for the juggular!…
if dirk was shorter, payton would have stiff armed him in the throat
December 9th, 2018 at 8:44 am
Sean Payton isn’t kicking anybody’s azz.
December 9th, 2018 at 9:30 am
This is what I can’t stand about Dirk. Guys never been to the playoffs but treats people, and the press in particular, like he’s better than them. Saints are better coached, even if we win.
A better answer would have been he consider a wet ball practice and decided against it for whatever reason. Instead he’s just an ass. I’d fire Dirk but I do like JL, Monk and Duff (who’s crushed it since taking over) would also keep JW but he needs to do a team friendly deal. Think we just need a new head ball coach and we’re ready to roll into the playoffs in the next year or two.
December 9th, 2018 at 10:40 am
Jimmy, Vink stopped the operation because he is hemorrhaging spondiuliks on his Under Water Street downtown development. It has nothing to do with Brooks or the Storm’s performance. But thanks gor checking in anyway.
December 9th, 2018 at 12:27 pm
That’s awesome coach… Go Bucs!