Fire Koetter; Simple As That
December 17th, 2018
BY IRA KAUFMAN
Dirk Koetter will have a job in the NFL next season, if he so desires.
But it shouldn’t be at One Buc Place.
Even if Tampa Bay manages to win its final two games and finishes 7-9, ownership needs to move on with a new head coach. In fact, 2019 is shaping up as a busy year of transition for the Glazers, who have to be thinking about making a coaching change in the Premier League.
Have you seen Manchester United play this season?
But Buc fans couldn’t care less about the Red Devils. They’ve got their own gremlins to address.
We’re 46 games into the Koetter regime and the man is 8 games below .500. That won’t play in Pocatello, let alone Tampa.
More alarmingly, he is 11-22 since a 5-game winning streak in 2016 that generated considerable excitement that these weren’t the same old Bucs.
False alarm.
Koetter has to go, and if you have read his body language in the past month, he knows his time is almost up as an NFL head coach. He has a deserved reputation as a solid offensive coordinator, but he has failed this franchise as an overall leader.
* Koetter waited too long to replace Mike Smith as defensive coordinator. Instead of making the change during the bye week, Koetter stuck with a trusted friend and the Falcons promptly scored touchdowns on their first three possessions to bury the Bucs.
* Koetter mishandled the Jameis Winston situation. He was right to pull Winston after a horrid half at Cincinnati, but he should have reinstated Winston as the starter against the Giants because Ryan Fitzpatrick wasn’t playing well in his place.
* Hired in large measure to develop No. 3 into an elite quarterback, Koetter hasn’t been able to elevate Winston’s game. Winston remains a middle-of-the-pack passer and he never developed a rapport with DeSean Jackson.
* Since taking over as head coach, Koetter has been unable to establish a credible ground game. That has hurt Winston’s development and it’s particularly frustrating because Tampa Bay’s run game was robust in 2015 — when Koetter was Lovie Smith’s coordinator and Winston took every snap as a rookie.
* Even the 2018 offense is going south. The Bucs now rank 13th in scoring, averaging 24.6 points. That leaves them behind Houston and Carolina and barely above the Ravens and Bengals.
* The Bucs have been awful on the road. They are 1-6 heading into Big D on Sunday and Koetter didn’t have his team ready to play in Chicago, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Carolina or the Meadowlands.
* It’s inexcusable to go 1-7 after winning your first two games with a backup quarterback. Fitzpatrick provided the Bucs with a clean getaway before a shocking collapse that should not be blamed on injuries.
Koetter’s thin skin should be no factor in his dismissal. Like every NFL head coach, he doesn’t like to be second-guessed. I like the fact he doesn’t make excuses or blame Tampa Bay’s defense for another miserable season.
But Buc fans deserve better than 5-11. They deserve better than 5-9.
They deserve a head coach they believe in.
Dirk Koetter has had his shot. He got three years, which is more than his last two predecessors received.
The Glazers need to move fast after the season finale. The Bucs won’t be the only team looking for a new head coach — and Tampa won’t be the most attractive destination.
Don’t be shocked to learn the Bucs already have a succession plan in place. It’s not personal, it’s strictly business.
Besides, Koetter has said it himself, many times … this is a production business. He hasn’t won often enough and now he has to go.
Simple as that.
The game-preview edition of TAMPA TWO is always a must-watch, with Derrick Brooks and Ira Kaufman looking at match-ups and more. TAMPA TWO is presented by Caldeco Air Conditioning & Heating, with The Identity Tampa Bay and JoeBucsFan.com producing.
December 17th, 2018 at 1:34 pm
Ira can’t get John Lynch in the Hall of Fame. Guess we have to fire him. Simple as that.
December 17th, 2018 at 1:35 pm
“Could care less” or “couldn’t care less” about ManU? Because I for one couldn’t care any less than I do now…..
December 17th, 2018 at 1:41 pm
But replaced with who?
December 17th, 2018 at 1:41 pm
Yet Ira got Sapp & Brooks in first ballot…so there’s that. You make a solid case, Ira. I truly believe Koetter wants to be done…in over his head a bit…probably wouldn’t mind some time off or a chance to O.C. with a contending team while leaving the head coaching duties i.e. media relations, defensive duties to someone else.
December 17th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
Best hire the Glazers boys have made so far was Schiano
Don’t trust them or Licht to hire the right guy
December 17th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
It’s funny when all the journalists suddenly know exactly how the season should’ve gone.
Here’s the thing, this website, and many others, wanted Koetter to replace Lovie. Many wanted Mike Smith back after we went 9-7.
Fact is that as much as Koetter has been wrong, so too has the media. Most of his decisions were praised at the time. Now, everyone piles on at the very end. So brave. Not sure who the two are connected. Koetter coaches the team. He’s the guy responsible, fans and media don’t get a vote. Returning Mike Smith after 2017 was called “Status Woe” on this website. And is there really “bravery” involved in sharing a sports opinion. It is just entertainment at the end of the day.–Joe
December 17th, 2018 at 1:43 pm
PLEASE STOP with the bit-o-honey, yams eating etc., etc., etc., description of Koetter. We get it. You have a degree in descriptive adjectives from who knows where? We also understand, You don’t like Koetter!! So what else is new?? Join the crowd. Enough already with your description of Coach Koetter!!!
December 17th, 2018 at 1:45 pm
Sapp and Brooks were first ballot HoFers with or without Ira
Sapp actually was considered a surprise first-ballot guy. Most observers felt Michael Strahan would beat him out, especially since Strahan was so popular among media and played in New York, but he did not. Those in the voting room credit Ira’s sales job. –Joe
December 17th, 2018 at 1:52 pm
Hey Joe,
You’re still going to keep your promise of getting rid of the Den of Depression moniker if we beat the dirty birds, right?
December 17th, 2018 at 1:58 pm
You’re right about tampa not being an attractive spot to coach.
NOBODY outside of a few fans like us actually CARES.
The glazers don’t care unless it affects their bottom line. They are only concerned about winning in the profit margins not the win and loss column.
It seems tough to get true talent to come here for owners who don’t care and a city full of transplants.
December 17th, 2018 at 2:00 pm
homer and salesman — yes objective journalist not a chance… Kaufman deserves credit, after all, he did perform the greatest sales job on planet earth selling that unqualified bum dungy the clown to the hall of fame voters with his career losing playoff record.
sapp and selmon are legit hall of fame the rest are unqualified average players that low standard bucfan confuses as being great. popularity in a small town does not make one a nfl great. multiple championships and post season success makes one great not underachieving.
55 road sapps coattails and never won a damn thing without sapp in front of him. not to mention the pathetic 5 playoff wins over the course of his mediorcre career with one great year thanks to gruden.
December 17th, 2018 at 2:01 pm
When is this site going to go all in on getting rid of their beer chugging buddy Licht? The joes and Ira have echoed how great all of lichts moves were or are and continued to say how great the OL has been until recently. Most fans have seen in 2 years how bad this OL is and the fact that Licht stood pat with this horrible line is malpractice as a GM. Ya koetter will be canned and someone new will be calling plays here next year but the bucs need new front office men becasue the bucs are so far away. Look at the friggin browns…they are going to be a perennial playoff team for the next 5 years and the bucs are now all alone as the worst franchise in the NFL
December 17th, 2018 at 2:13 pm
“Amazingly this article is missing 2 words…
Jason Licht
Its amazing how much power Jason Gump has in this Tampa local media
Jason Gump owns the keys(privileges) to 1 Buc Place
No one will go against the almighty Teflon Gump
Dogs will not bite the hands that feed it
articles from JBF/Peter report and the local Tampa high school like media are biased opinions with no credibility”
Kobe Faker
December 17th, 2018 at 2:15 pm
Another guy the glazers hired not good enough to ever be a head coach again in the nfl. All I can say is they waited a year too late so the next guy better be a home run because then it’s just an ownership issue at that point
December 17th, 2018 at 2:19 pm
I swear, I am back and forth on this one.
FYI…Bucs have the NUMBER THREE total offense as of this week, down from 1st last week. That’s still pretty darn good. I think pointing out a single stat in order to support a point is wrong.
That said…
…I think it is pretty much a given that Koetter is toast. I mean, there is a tiny chance the Glazers re-sign him to a 1-3 year deal (with no guarantees past the first year) simply because the players still believe in him and the offense is ranked so high…but it’s unlikely that they will do that.
So…here are my concerns going forward:
• If we hire a Defensive Head Coach, he’s likely to tear this offense apart instead of fixing the weaknesses. One way to prevent that is to keep Monken on a OC, and designate certain players as hands off in regard to letting go of them. We would still have to address the OL and RB coaches though.
• I am sick and tired of losing. That said, I am more sick and tired of changing coaches every 2-3 years. Having a coach who has been here 3 instead of 2 years has already made a difference in regard to team spirit, unity and effort. So…let’s make this a great, long term hire.
• I just don’t see the point in going after someone who barely has a winning record. Yes, Koetter has a losing record. We all know that. But having barely over 55% wins in a head coach career probably means we won’t turn things around. It would be another waste of time. Therefore, the Glazers need to go after someone with a well established winning record.
• I also do not see the point in a high-risk experimental signing…meaning a rookie Head Coach. As great a story as it would be if he succeeded, the odds are much more likely that he won’t…and frankly, I think this team is too close to being great to waste more time experimenting. We have the offense. We have the beginnings of a defense. Finish off the defense and find a good kicker, and we’re contenders.
I need to do an update of the list my name links to.
December 17th, 2018 at 2:28 pm
So Ira is saying that the only reason Koetter was hired was to make Jason Licht’s squandering of the #1 pick in the draft look justifiable?
Yep, sounds about right…….
December 17th, 2018 at 2:34 pm
On the topic of the ‘Den of Depression’ moniker…
…maybe it is just me, especially around here where the trolls and haters outnumber us fans (something needs to be done about that), but I believe changing the culture of a team is on the team itself…AND on the fans.
I felt the Stick Carriers might be a step in the right direction…but as it turned out, it was only a fad…an attention-getter that went away as soon as it became apparent that Koetter was going to get canned. I was disappointed to say the least.
But really, it demonstrate the weak fanbase Tampa has. Regardless of Koetter being here or not, the Stick Carriers should have remained. Sure…his quote started them up, but they could have continued to exist, holding future team staff and players accountable. But the Stick Carriers quit. They changed their name, just like the trolls on this website.
Which brings me to the ‘Den of Depression’.
I am a firm believer in the power of speaking positive. As the Bible says, the power of life and of death is in the tongue. The ‘Den of Depression’ moniker speaks death.
So the next comment might be, “Do you really think some typed words affect the outcome of games?”
Yes. Here’s why: It affects the fanbase…a fanbase which is already weak from losing. It’s just one more thing to bring us down, on top of a whole list of things. Sooner or later, we need a leader in media to come forward and start speaking positive things.
I’m not talking about denial. I’m talking about the small things…like nicknames for the stadium, staff or players. Just as those few words add one more thing to bring us down, something positive would be one thing to contribute to lifting us up…and if the fans gain true confidence and start supporting the team better, they will attend more games, yell more, and the players will feed off it, leading to more effort and a change in culture.
They say in football that it all starts on the lines. Well it does with fans too…the ticket lines.
So, Joe…allow me to make a suggestion. A more neutral nickname:
The Cove of Brutality
It fits if we are doing poorly. It fits if we are kicking butt. At least it won’t drag the fans down.
December 17th, 2018 at 2:39 pm
I agree with Ira that it almost appears at this point like Dirk is just ready for it to happen. I think it will be doing him a favor.
December 17th, 2018 at 2:39 pm
Off topic:
Peyton Barber and Rogers are free agents after this year, so we’ll need some RBs.
December 17th, 2018 at 2:41 pm
Ira, sorry, but fixing the Bucs is no place close to being as “simple as that”. No place in your rather lengthy piece did you even mention the name JASON LICHT. Dirk Koetter didn’t fail because of Mike Smith. He (and the Bucs) failed because of JASON LICHT.
Coaches should certainly be expected to develop talent, but the talent (?) that Koetter was given to work with by the architect of this mess was provided by JASON LICHT. He built this team to fail. Tired of hearing how great Licht has been at drafting … even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile. First rounders are gimmes … no excuses for missing. Second rounders should also be gimmes when you pick as high as the Bucs have been picking. Beyond that it’s a crap-shoot IMO.
But more than drafting, it’s the way Licht has built this team (or more specifically HASN’T built this team). Far too little emphasis on ‘building the trenches’ for one thing. And when it comes to providing ‘depth’ Licht has provided diddly to our coaches … we’re stocked with a bunch of wannabes who’d never even sniff a starting or rotational job on any other team. No, sorry, this masquerade is much more on JASON LICHT (and yes, ownership) than it is on Dirk Koetter. If Dirk ever writes a book and titles it ‘Licht Screwed Me’ I’ll be first in line for a copy autographed by Dirk.
December 17th, 2018 at 2:41 pm
Why shouldn’t Light be the 1st to go ??He is in charge and made to many failed attempts .
December 17th, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Larry Says:
“PLEASE STOP with the bit-o-honey, yams eating etc., etc., etc., description”
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Speak for yourself, please. — I am good with the descriptions.
They are light-hearted bits of something different.
December 17th, 2018 at 2:43 pm
This should’ve been the headline last season at this point.
December 17th, 2018 at 2:44 pm
Not that he is Bill Belicheat but we are getting rid of the wrong guy
Jason is our problem
December 17th, 2018 at 2:49 pm
^^ Because, ben, you are too busy trying to push Jameis out the door. – You guys are in the way. 😉
December 17th, 2018 at 3:03 pm
Defense Rules. The writing appears to be on the wall. Nobody in the local media is being very critical of Jason Licht.
I think there’s a reason for that & I think it’s because he’s going to stay and bring in the next HC.
There not going to bash the same guy they are going to be requesting interviews from for the next year.
December 17th, 2018 at 3:04 pm
And maybe Licht does get canned. But I think there’s a lot of uncertainty that will change GM. Not like HC where everybody knows Dirk won’t be here next year.
December 17th, 2018 at 3:13 pm
why would a defensive HC “tear this team apart”?…..lol…they wont….what they’ll do is “fix” what needs to be “fixed” which is the run game and developing the olinemen……
we’ll still be explosive, we’ll just have a run to match the passing attack and because of that, play calling will be less predictable….
talent and player wise, i think we’re very close…..we just need the right coaching to develop the players and the right scheme that puts them in position to be successful…..
look at the bears….they’re in the playoffs and were picking ahead of us in the draft last year…..nagy didnt come in and change the defense….he focused on the offense and let the defense continue doing what they’ve been doing….
look at the colts….the HC scaled back the offense for luck, committed to the run game and improved the defense…..he didnt try to re-invent the wheel…..
bring in KRIS RICHARD who will develop players, commit to the run game and “fix” the defense and watch winston take off…..
it aint rocket science…..winston was a turnover machine at FSU…..but he won with a run game and a good defense….bucs need to get back to that……
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 17th, 2018 at 3:27 pm
1) After Bucs went 9-7, media praised return of Mike Smith. Pewter Report went so far as to say it was the most important offseason move. Fairly certain that you guys were happy about it as well.
My point is that the media makes all these proclamations after the fact, such as demanding a firing of a guy that they wanted to be the head coach. But for whatever reason, there are no consequences. No one ever points out that if you were running the franchise, we’d be worse off.
2) Sapp had the Terrell Owens effect on the Hall. No rational football fan could deny his entrance based on his play, but only for his personality. So, based strictly on the resume, Sapp was a clear first ballot HoFer. Doesn’t change the fact that Ira can’t seem to do much for Lynch, Ronde, or Simeon Rice
December 17th, 2018 at 3:27 pm
DR
not buying the talent excuse…..lol….
noah spence is a perfect example…..5.5 sacks as a rookie and then nothing….not because he cant play but because coaches cant develop him….
rojo is in the same boat…..
justin evans has regressed this year….because of lack of development…marpet regressed this year after getting paid….d.smith hasnt progressed enough…..hell, winston, the player who got dirk promoted hasnt progressed enough…..
you cant say all those players lack talent…..
no doubt licht has screwed up but who does the vision of the team belong to?…the GM or HC?…..if licht wants to draft a DE but dirk says he wants an explosive RB who does licht listen to?….the HC is the person coaching the team…..the GM gets the players…..if licht says ok RB but i want guice because of x,y,&z but dirk has he wants rojo because of x,y&z i would think the GM has to listen to the HC……
licht has made some bad decisions no doubt but imo, he’s done more good than dirk…..the lack of development has killed this team….not developing players like spence (2nd round picks) and hanging on to smitty is why he’ll be walking the plank 01/01/19…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 17th, 2018 at 3:29 pm
There is no chance the Buccaneers resign Dirk Koetter.
December 17th, 2018 at 3:31 pm
813……We had a defensive coach in 2015. The play calling and offensive design had everybody so head over heels that it got Dirk Koetter promoted to HC.
Anybody saying that needs to blow it our their rear.
Just think about it. Chuck Sims had well over 1000 scrimmage yards that season. That’s getting the absolute most out of your player. The following year under Dirks watch Sims looked like a player that didn’t belong in the league…..That’s getting the least out of your player.
December 17th, 2018 at 3:40 pm
@Max…. you are SO very correct in what you said about the Flazers!!! They don’t give two rat spits about either team they own! All they care about is profit and loss. The sad thing is is that no matter how much the Bucs suck it is STILL profitable for them. It’s just a matter of HOW MUCH profit it is! I don’t give a rats arse about soccer to me it is a sport for whiny little beetches anyway but look what the trust fund kids have done to THAT club!!!! They are not selling either one either, hell they have the goose that lays the golden eggs!!
December 17th, 2018 at 4:16 pm
jimmyjack
yeah…..
that defensive coach didnt have 4 former 1st round pick along the d-line, 2 probowl LBers and a secondary full of 1st and 2nd round picks….
most defensive coaches believe in the run game…..thats why doug martin ended up #2 in rushing and sims as you pointed out had over 1k in total yards…..thats what we need to get back to….running the ball and playing good defense…..
along with player development….lol….
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 17th, 2018 at 4:16 pm
When you look at the head coaches that are available or will be available to replace Dork Koetter, I still believe Kris Richard gives us the best chance to improve. I have seen interviews and watched videos of Kris Richard working with his players, he seems to possess an ability to effectively communicate things to players and the results have been proven on the field.
I don’t see this as hiring a Defensive minded coach or an offensive minded coach. I see the selection of Kris Richard as a communicator and motivator minded coach. That is something we have not had since Gruden.
Kris Richard gets my vote.
December 17th, 2018 at 4:16 pm
Fireeeeeeeeee Licht! Licht is the worst GM in the league and shouldn’t be a GM. Firreeeee Licht!
December 17th, 2018 at 4:19 pm
If the Joes didn’t hire Ira would he still have been the HOF voter for this market or would he have been picked up by the times or another outlet to keep that voting power?
December 17th, 2018 at 4:22 pm
Joa I totally get your point on Koetter….I agree on some and disagree on others…….What I dont get is people like you or Ira never talk about Jason Licht…..Why don´t try to make a fair analysis of his drafts perfromances and his free agencies additions…..You have all your energy on Koetter but nothing of the biggest failure on the organization. He had the control of the franchise always with big space on the salary cap, and top 10 picks on the draft……..Evans JPP Godwin Brate Marpet Hump, Kwon…..all of this were really good ones why dont we talk about Gholston, Hardgreaves Baker Simms Mc Nichols ASJ Aguayo and every single other kicker, and trust me I can keep on and on…….Since his tenure we are 22-42…….and we keep on firing coaches…… WHY DONT YOU JOE AND IRA TALK ABOUT THIS??????
December 17th, 2018 at 4:28 pm
GHOST
perfectly said…..
folks act like im beating the kris richard drum because i think he’s better than BB in new england….lol….thats not the case….
what you said was perfect…..he’s a motivator that is also a football coach that can communicate effectively to players on both side of the ball and develop players on both sides of the ball….
this is something we need that we havent had in a long time…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 17th, 2018 at 4:51 pm
@ZZBuc…. because without kissing up to without ANY doubt the WORST GM in the league they would have no access to one Buc or the players so they MUST satay on Gumps good side.
December 17th, 2018 at 4:59 pm
If you wanna sell me on Richards I am going to have to be impressed with his pedigree because whoever coaches here is going to have to assemble an entire staff.
If he can pluck a guy or two from Dallas that will be a nice start. But I’m going to need more then that. And the Pete Carroll tree doesn’t move the needle enough. Gonna need more then that.
December 17th, 2018 at 5:05 pm
Koeter acts like he has been told by someone on the inside that he will be fired after the last game.He as no more fight left in him.Dear owners– please be kind to Koeter and fire him early.
December 17th, 2018 at 5:07 pm
@813bucboi … “DR – not buying the talent excuse…..lol.” Glad you find the lack of talent funny bucboi, but few others do. Rarely is life as ‘simple as that’ IMO. Rarely is it that one guy or one play wins or loses a game. And in along similar lines, rarely is it that a new coach, taking over exactly the same players, can turn a team around. Not to say that changing coaches can’t make a difference, it certainly can. But it’s always much more complex than that.
Virtually all of the division leaders right now have improved certain things going for them that’ve been critical to their success. And along similar lines, virtually all of the losing teams have sucked all year long, and for good reason. I’m a believer that injuries very often ‘drive the train’, partially because you often lose a starter-quality talent, but more importantly because it exposes your depth. If your depth sucks, you’ve had the schnitzel.
To illustrate the point, look at Chicago’s injury list (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/2018.htm ). As of today, they have 6 players on IR & 3 Questionable. That’s it. Now look at the Bucs (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/tam/2018.htm ). As of today we have 13 on IR & 5 Questionable … Virtually twice as many. NINE of those have been starters for us; the vast majority on defense. And the guys … provided by Jason Licht … are no where near NFL-starting-caliber.
Now look at the Jaguars injury list (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/jax/2018.htm ). They have 13 players on IR & another 5 listed as Questionable, same as the Bucs. Their record? 4-10. This time last year they were 10-4. Same exact coaching staff … but with a lot fewer injuries last year. Excellent starting talent; mediocre depth. Predictable results.
December 17th, 2018 at 5:24 pm
Hire. Suck. Fire.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Whatever.
December 17th, 2018 at 5:56 pm
@ JimmyJack –
Read this – https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/09/22/cowboys-kris-richard-just-intoxicating-charisma-look-inside-one-nfls-top-defensive-minds
Hopefully joe allows it to post. A little more background to absorb.
December 17th, 2018 at 5:56 pm
@ jimmyjack
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/09/22/cowboys-kris-richard-just-intoxicating-charisma-look-inside-one-nfls-top-defensive-minds
December 17th, 2018 at 6:26 pm
I echo all said here Ira except..Smitty should have been fired directly after last season. Not many Franchises would have kept him after that shameful showing. Arguably, had Koetter done this, we might have had 3 to 4 more victories this year and he might have another season as HC. But..Confidence in him is gone with the fans. And you are right…The Glazers gotta move quick. Because there may be possibly 4 to 5 more NFl HC openings. I’m hoping they are and have been..ON IT. The AZ Cards are looking as of today too. Tough league baby.
December 17th, 2018 at 6:39 pm
I believe that this may not be a preferred destination for potential coaches but I can’t for the life of me understand why that is. You have a team with serious talent particularly on the offensive side of the ball, great weather, no state income tax and a great place to live. Why is this such a hard sell? We’ll throw in smoking hot women to sweeten the pot.
December 17th, 2018 at 7:09 pm
How many coaches have the Bucs fired over the last 12 years, and still no play offs? Not that simple…
December 17th, 2018 at 8:51 pm
There are some really stupid people on your website Joes, it is the same idiots every article. None of them come with stats or anecdotes, just stupid nicknames and hatred for the best players on our team on both offense and defense. Always. If you like Koetter, they hate Koetter, when Koetter doesn’t perform and you call him out, they all of a sudden love him and think he should get an extra year or 2. If this was FB I would have blocked these idiots, not because I disagree with everything they say but because they offer nothing to the conversation. I don’t agree a lot with Bonzai, LUV, jimmyjack, etc, but they bring a good perspective and intelligent conversation. Just thought you should know😜
December 17th, 2018 at 8:55 pm
There are 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL, every NFL city is a wanted destination. Weather, no state income tax, good nucleus if players, just a sh*tty defensive scheme and very suspect overall offensive scheme and don’t hit me with these BS stats, just actually watch the games, that is what tells the tale. Not what someone tells you what happened
December 17th, 2018 at 9:00 pm
Whoever is making an excuse for Koetter most likely has been asleep fort the past two years. I wanted him gone last year. When Dungy was hired in 96 i was skeptical but after the 96 season I “was like’ this guy is getting to his players and his coaches to do what they’re supposed to do. I bought season tickets the following year! I absolutely felt confident things were going to change. I haven’t felt the same since then. None of these hires convinced me…none! They all seemed to be piecemeal, stop-gap measures with hopeful intentions. I’ve never really believed that Koetter was going to take this team to the next level. My big question at this point is “is there enough talent to win?” Moving forward I would guess that the Glazers have only one choice to find and hire the “best” coach available. One who is proven, has a winning playoff record and/or super bowl, is a “great” communicator, asks for player input, can relate to his players, is flexible, is defensive oriented but can be open to innovative offensive game plans and most importantly knows his players strengths and game plans accordingly.
December 17th, 2018 at 10:26 pm
oh, IRA
Jason Licht record will likely match Domiic’s at the end of the season. No reason to give him a pass for that. Time to stand up,you have let it be known that Dominic’s record wasn’t good enough and neither is Licht’s. He hasn’t given these coaches a fair chance with his free agent follies and his gator arms reaching the draft. Write that piece IRA,do it for all the suffering fans that need a real reason to cheer.
December 17th, 2018 at 11:31 pm
Bonzai nailed it. We are close so hate to see it get blown completely up.
December 17th, 2018 at 11:33 pm
Hell yeah cmurda. Sign me up
December 17th, 2018 at 11:45 pm
When are either one of you panzie asses, Joe or Ira going to have the stones to say that it is The GLAZERS NEED TO GO!!!
December 18th, 2018 at 12:03 am
And how should this be accomplished? We don’t live in the old Soviet Union where property can be confiscated at the will of the dictator. Team Glazer would have to be forced to sell and they don’t want to and why should they? Owning an NFL team is a license to print money.
The only owners who are forced to sell their teams are those who are involved in shady if not corrupt practices. To the best of Joe’s knowledge, Team Glazer runs a clean program.
December 18th, 2018 at 12:28 am
Continue the revolving door of mediocrity. Look for another 2-4 years of losing with yet another coach. Coaching is not the problem. The ONLY common denominator is OWNERSHIP!
December 18th, 2018 at 8:48 am
Bucs need an organization builder. Not the hottest coordinator or guru. They need someone that build a team. Once it is built and culture established, if that coach cant get them over the hump you then hire the hot x’s and o’s coach. I think we should be OK with hiring a coach like John Fox or Ron Rivera type. Conservative but methodical in the process. Even Jeff Fischer understands building a solid team and talent. Build it first then hand it over to the guru. Worked with Tony Dungy and John Gruden.
December 18th, 2018 at 11:53 am
Koetter doesn’t have the temperament of a HC. It’s that simple. Buh bye. Take Licht with ya.
December 18th, 2018 at 2:16 pm
The Glazers are known for NOT firing their HC or GM during the season. Well Last night / yesterday they fired the GM of their Soccer franchise and they still have games to be played..
Why not pull the trigger now?
December 19th, 2018 at 4:00 am
First of all, just because the Glazers choices for head coaches haven’t panned out, that does NOT make them cheap or not care about winning. They have tripled the value of their franchise here; selling it would be about profits, they stay because they like to, and want to….win.
Next.. just because Ira Kaufman has a Hall of Fame vote, that does not make him responsible for getting a player into the Hall of Fame. THat is so stupid, just thinking that shows us all your level of Football IQ is very low. You should be doing more listening / Reading, than Talking / Posting.
To me, the Glazers haven’t found the right coach because each hire was a reactionary one. NO thinking ahead, just reacting. Raheem was young and would coach without complaining about lack of free agents, at a time the world economy was tanking and the Glazers has just extended themselves to purchase Man. U. They did what any smart business man would do. Then a strict College disciplinarian was hired to counter Morris. That didn’t work, back to the drawing board, with an old fan favorite, Lovie Smith. But with every coach, the team was getting thinner and thinner with talent as coaches got rid of previous coaches players. By the time Koetter was kept on to work with Jameis, and after 2 straight years of drafting ONLY offensive players, the team is now finally starting to get some sense of depth, especially on offense. But it should be doing more.