Dominik: A Second- And Third-Round Pick Might Be A Good Trade For Gerald McCoy
December 27th, 2018
As the walls cave in on the power structure at One Buc Palace, fans are focused on what’s next for the big names on a roster primed for an upheaval.
One man who knows plenty about coaching and roster changes is former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik.
He talked about that today on WDAE-AM 620. Dominik emphasized it’s important to resist a clean-sweep mentality and the Bucs should be focused on considering keeping coaches that have been successful here. Joe will toss out names like Brentson Buckner and Mark Duffner as examples.
Dominik moved on to personnel. On that front, he was asked about trading Gerald McCoy, the guy he drafted No. 3 overall in 2010.
The former GM, who works for SiriusXM NFL Radio and maintains many friendships and contacts across the league, said McCoy is held in high regard in scouting circles.”If you talk to anyone around the National Football League, they see the talent,” he said.
But Dominik added, “I just don’t think you could get a first round pick [for McCoy].”
Dominik suggested his gut tells him McCoy, who turns 31 in February, could fetch a second-round and a third-round pick in an offseason trade.
That might be a good trade for the Bucs, he said, but he cautioned that fans should realize the difficult reality of replacing a top talent. He pointed to the Raiders now having three first-round draft picks but facing the challenge of replacing Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper.
“Just because you want to trade a guy doesn’t mean you’re going to make the team better,” Dominik said.
Would Joe trade McCoy for a second- and a third-round pick?
First, Joe would need to know where those picks actually fall. Second, Joe would want to know the Bucs’ overall team-building philosophy in place.
But if the Bucs went into a clear rebuild mode and must choose, say, between keeping Jason Pierre-Paul or McCoy, then sure, Joe would pull the trigger on trading No. 93. A solid second- and third-round pick is nothing to sneeze at. Joe could totally see McCoy in Miami playing alongside Akeem Spence.
December 27th, 2018 at 11:45 am
dominick is smoking crack….. 5 or 6 at best for a washed up quitter with no heart and proven track record of being a locker room cancer who enjoys losing more than being great.
December 27th, 2018 at 11:45 am
In a heartbeat…..but I can’t imagine in my wildest dreams anyone giving up a 2&3 for McCoy….even if the 2 was 2019 and the 3 was 2020…must be Dominick trading with himself
December 27th, 2018 at 11:45 am
Whatever we can get for him would be a good trade.
December 27th, 2018 at 11:45 am
Trade!!
We need to get rid of big fat softie gerald big fat softie mccoy ASAP!!
December 27th, 2018 at 11:46 am
Make it happen Licht. This draft is Rich in DL talent. This is the time to replace McCoy.
December 27th, 2018 at 11:46 am
Done deal! Make it happen!
December 27th, 2018 at 11:46 am
LOL top talent???
Gerald McCoy is a big fat softie
You can replace him with that fat guy you see at McDonalds
December 27th, 2018 at 11:47 am
No one is giving up a 2nd AND 3rd for a 31 y/o with a $13 million cap hit.
December 27th, 2018 at 11:51 am
no one not strongly under the influence would make such an offer.
Nice job by the rock star in popping his head up with an idiotic remark.
December 27th, 2018 at 11:52 am
McCoy was a ghost all season. The biggest sham in all of football. The fans were sold fools gold for a decade. Just put someone next to him? How did that work out?
December 27th, 2018 at 11:56 am
It would be great for McCoy to finally go to a winner..
December 27th, 2018 at 11:58 am
That might be a good trade for the Bucs, he said, but he cautioned that fans should realize the difficult reality of replacing a top talent. He pointed to the Raiders now having three first-round draft picks but facing the challenge of replacing Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper.
Yeah Mark just because you drafted him doesn’t mean we hold him to the high regard you do. We see him play week in and week out, when he’s healthy of course, and we’re done with the Gerald McCoy era. I’m sorry but you can’t compare Gerald McCoy to Khalil Mack…..Mack is a game changing presence on the field at all times. Gerald McCoy is not that, has never been that, nor will he ever be that presence on the football field. Trade him as soon as possible and get what you can.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Can we trade tmaxcon? I think we can get bag of steamy hot turds for him. It would be equal trade. Two things full of…
December 27th, 2018 at 12:02 pm
This is exhibit #167 as to why Mark Dominick was a failure as GM. No team in their right mind would give a 2nd and 3rd for McCoy.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:04 pm
Why is Dominik even being quoted on this site. This is the equivalent to Jason Licht being fired and then blabbing all over his radio show about this and that. Fireeee Licht! Dominik was already Fiireed!
December 27th, 2018 at 12:08 pm
This is the funniest article you’ve posted this week
December 27th, 2018 at 12:09 pm
As a card-carrying member of the “GMC Crow Supper Club”, it would be wise to shop him regardless.
I would be surprised if we got more than a 3rd or 4th for him though.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:12 pm
Def would take a 2nd…..in a heartbeat! A 3rd along with it is a bit much but if someone called and offered that too, heck yeah!
December 27th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Yeah Rock Star. You would give up a two and three for 31 year old that has some kind of injury every year and his hands on his hips gasping for air after every play, but not likely any other management in the NFL. A two third rounds is what he’s worth and would be great to get.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
I can’t believe Dominick actually believes we would get a 2nd and a 3rd rounder for Gerald, this late in his career.
How can he believe that??!!
December 27th, 2018 at 12:15 pm
I’ll take a 3rd
or San Frans’ 4th round pick & Solomon Thomas.
IMO who’s been playing out of position in their base 4-3.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:16 pm
The Truth? Gerald McCoy is highly respected in the league, and considered a top five DT.
Everyone knows he;s been stuck on a bad defense, so a team wanting that final DT piece would possibly even give up a second or first rounder.
Now, I realize the haters will say it isn’t possible, but the teams set the price, not the fans.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:16 pm
I’d take a 2nd or a 3rd in a heartbeat.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:18 pm
Note: A lot of folkz in the bay are down on Solomon Thomas.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:18 pm
Please trade him if we can get this value
December 27th, 2018 at 12:19 pm
How much can we get for JPP?
December 27th, 2018 at 12:19 pm
LUV- I remember Thomas being highly touted in the draft. Kind of quiet lately. Another Nassib-like resurgence in the cards perhaps?
December 27th, 2018 at 12:20 pm
@Bonzai,,, I am definitely not a hater and really like McCoy, but I don’t think there are too many GM’s that would still have him in their “Top 5 DT’s”, and I definitely don’t think we can get a 2nd rounder for him at this point.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
LUVMYBUCS
my man hope the holidays were good to you and yours… as much as i like JPP there should be no one exempt on this roster from being upgraded, moved or cut.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Bucsfanman
Exactly!!
December 27th, 2018 at 12:25 pm
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December 27th, 2018 at 12:26 pm
nassib might fall off the wagon next year. how many players over the years that have a few good games causing delusional low standard bucfan to fall in love only to be let down. the list is very long and very undistinguished. stop labeling players keepers after a few good plays failing in love with mediocrity i know is an upgrade but still not competitive nfl football.
what’s that scene in fast times at Ridgemont where the dude buys film to talk to the girl and does not have a camera… bucfan buys jerseys of mediocre flash in the pain clowns that are never to be seen again after their 4 career plays.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:29 pm
McCoy is still one of the best in the league! Sunday he was double and even triple teamed at times… He is impacting the game in more ways than one but the avg football fan wouldn’t see that. Vita Vea was allowed one on ones because of Gerald McCoy and he actually won his matchups ( that’s the difference we saw sunday).
I think with the right defensive coordinator Gerald McCoy can still be a top 5 DT in the NFL.. Give coach duffner another year to implement his own system and see how that fares, I wouldn’t give up on the big fella just yet
December 27th, 2018 at 12:30 pm
Bucsfanman
Miscast as DE in their base 4-3. Better suited 3tech in a 3-4 alignment IMO
December 27th, 2018 at 12:31 pm
*Better suited as a 3-tech in a 3-4 alignment
December 27th, 2018 at 12:34 pm
So this may be a situation where being in football Siberia helps. No one outside of Tampa parts any attention to this team, please reference the idiotic”observations” the national media makes. That said the only thing most other teams know about 93 is what his Madden rankings say. Seriously I feel that’s accurate. They have no idea he is soft and hasn’t played up to his contract. They will see that he has pro bowls, and good sack stats. They won’t know that he disappears late in games, and 90% of his sacks make no impact. I think Gruden had a ton of draft capital burning a hole in his pocket, a soon to be puppet GM and a hard on for old players.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:39 pm
d-rome
i agree….
a 2nd and 3rd for a 31year old DT making 13mil is insane…..thats why he’s still on the radio and not running a team….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
December 27th, 2018 at 12:40 pm
We need to hope that Mark Dominick lands a GM this week. That is the only way we get that sort of return for 93.
Good player, but is eating up a lot of salary and his best days are in the rear view mirror. As Vea emerges it is hard to see why Gerald hasn’t made more of an impact. To me he is too often ridden down the line by mediocre O lineman. I don’t recognize the player he once was. It would be a win to free up the money.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
Haircut 100-lovin’ ex-GM Mark Dominick wants us to think that he is Nobody’s Fool when it comes to being a GM. He wants so badly to get his name out there for a GM job by suggesting a two and three for McCoy but is not willing to go as far as a Love Plus One. Please, Mr. Dominick, go traffic your Fantasy Football fantasies for some other team!
December 27th, 2018 at 12:50 pm
If only there was a GM like a Dominik to fleece a la the Jets and Revis for a year of rehab for 1million/game. No GM in their right mind would make a trade for McCoy and his contract…let alone part with premium picks.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:50 pm
With all the good DT’s in the 2019 draft, I don’t see any team doing this. It only takes one team, though. I wonder if Gruden loves McCoy…
December 27th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Mark Dominik is delusional, and is still too biased since his drafting of McCoy in 2010. Maybe the Bucs procure a 3rd rounder in exchange for McCoy which would be reasonable and appropriate, definitely NOT a 2nd rounder with a 31 year old with a $13 million dollar salary…AND HELL NO will any GM give up a 2ND & A 3RD ROUNDER!?!! He does come off as a buffoon sometimes for sure, even before this, with some generally astute observations sprinkled in rarely. Like others said, not sure why he’s still continually quoted on JBF, it falls under “who the hell cares” as our ex-GM, key word being “ex”. We’re not running around quoting Rich McKay all the time are we??
In the end, I am for the trade of McCoy overall this offseason for sure, and apply that 3rd round pick obtained to a reputable OT from a large school that has a history of churning out stud OLinemen, such as Iowa, or hell any school currently worth a darn in the SEC. Enough with these dart throws on Div III whatevers…
Bucs resurgence! Glazers go get JOHN Harbaugh!!
December 27th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
LUV- Depends on the defensive alignment the new coach comes with. I’m of the opinion that we should at least attempt a 3-4.
It should get interesting come Monday.
December 27th, 2018 at 12:59 pm
If GMC were getting no where close to $13 million I would be happy to have him on this team. We need to draft a fast, physical, powerful DT that can line up next to a big body Vea. Ed Oliver #5.
December 27th, 2018 at 1:04 pm
Why would you keep any of these coaches? Another great example of why Dominik was a failure at GM
December 27th, 2018 at 1:04 pm
If someone offers a 2nd and a 3rd the Bucs need to jump, I don’t care where the picks are.
GMac has played his best ball and receives a large pay day.
This move would allow the Bucs to keep JPP (our best D-line) and add talent. We have way too many holes not to try and get extra draft picks.
Our DT tackles with GMac would be V.V. (who has really come on late in the year) and big B.A. (who while is not GMac, is a very good player)
Use one of the two picks to bring in another rotational guy/hopefully a stud late find.
Then get another O-line man, say I don’t know RG!
December 27th, 2018 at 1:16 pm
It would have been inappropriate had anyone other than TMax had the first comment here.
December 27th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
Mark Dominick is an absolute incompetent buffoon, and his opinions on JBF are surpassed by everyone except Shaun King’s.
“Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship game when his defense gave up only 9 points.”
December 27th, 2018 at 1:47 pm
This is exactly why Dominik is out of the NFL. Has no idea a players worth on the open market. If a 29 year old JPP goes for a 3rd then you sure as hell aren’t getting a 2nd and a 3rd for a 31 year old McCoy.
How the hell does a guy who spent 5 years as a GM in the NFL not have a clue on this? Oh wait, 28-52 and the 13th overall pick and a 4th for one year and 16 million on Darelle Revis who’s career tailed out worse than any of the available free agents who took less than half Revis did. It all makes sense now.
December 27th, 2018 at 1:50 pm
LOL
All I can do is laugh
And this actually get paid for this nonsense
December 27th, 2018 at 2:01 pm
Tom S. Says:
“If a 29 year old JPP goes for a 3rd then you sure as hell aren’t getting a 2nd and a 3rd for a 31 year old McCoy.”
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It can’t be wrapped up better than that, man. Well done.
December 27th, 2018 at 2:19 pm
Hasn’t been a top talent for a few years now. It’s funny how we blame Winston for not being good under dirk but gmc has been average under basically every coach he’s had. I don’t want to hear the trade talk because if he’s still on this team next year I’ll be disappointed. We can get any young cheap first round rookie to give that kind of production. We haven’t tried to replace him for a decade, it’s just time to move on to the future. I’m fine with Winston having one more year and a new coach deciding his fate as well, it just has to get better and if the current players can’t do it so be it lets go
December 27th, 2018 at 2:31 pm
So y’all are saying GMC is no longer the real McCoy. His get off has got off.
December 27th, 2018 at 2:41 pm
That statement tells you right there why Dom never sniffed another G.M. job. Only a idiot like him, or the moron Licht would make that kind of trade.
December 27th, 2018 at 3:04 pm
Really an ELITE DT in the NFL is worth a lot
GMC must be worth a 1st and 2nd round
He is disruptive
Other teams coaches change their total game plans because of him
December 27th, 2018 at 3:11 pm
Coming from the GM that spent a #1 on an injured CB and then gave the team the most player friendly contract in team history…..its comical to hear him say a 31 yr old DT with injury history at a $13million salary will fetch a 2nd and a 3rd.
Dominick just removed himself from consideration for any openings unless they need a puppet. He’s a solid cap guy with excellent relationship skills with local media outlets….Team management, roster building, scouting, etc…..He’s awful.
December 27th, 2018 at 3:28 pm
ATrain Says:
December 27th, 2018 at 3:04 pm
Really an ELITE DT in the NFL is worth a lot
GMC must be worth a 1st and 2nd round
He is disruptive
Other teams coaches change their total game plans because of him
you are confusing his college scouting report with reality
December 27th, 2018 at 3:47 pm
ATrain- I like my crow rotisserie style, in case you were wondering!
December 27th, 2018 at 5:18 pm
I have been pondering this trade. I had wondered what GMC would be worth.
Belicheat trades good players with something left in the tank to pick up some good picks.
Problem for the Bucs is that they p!$$ away third and especially second round picks.
December 27th, 2018 at 6:19 pm
Hahahahahaha!!!!!
No one is giving a 3rd rounder for an overpriced DT who doesn’t have an impact in games. Takes plays off. Pads stats in garbage time.
They’d be lucky to get a 5th rounder.
December 27th, 2018 at 6:25 pm
That’s why DOMINIK is out of football. Who would give up a 2nd & 3 Rd draft picks for an aging D Tackle? The BUCS gave a 3rd & 4th for JPP so we would be lucky to get a 4th rounder for GMAC
December 27th, 2018 at 8:17 pm
I would jump to trade him for a 2nd and 3rd But that’s not gonna happen maybe a 3rd and a 4th???
December 27th, 2018 at 11:05 pm
A second or third round pick for Gerald McCoy sounds like a good idea, if for no other reason that he is the sole constant throughout a decade of losing in Tampa Bay. No, one player does not a team make or break. In the Bucs’ case, however, McCoy is one of two constants throughout nearly a decade of losing, the other being the ownership. Since McCoy was drafted in 2010, everything about the Bucs including coaches, the general manager, and the roster as a whole has changed several times with the exception of McCoy playing the 3-technique DT. No one player does not make or break an NFL football team, but it would be interesting to see what happens to a Bucs team without McCoy in the locker room. Why not? Everything else has changed, so let’s change the 3-technique DT, the often proclaimed leader of the defense and see what happens. It can’t get any worse.
December 27th, 2018 at 11:30 pm
tmaxcon
We good brotha – glad you are as well.
And I agree. No one is exempt.