Protect The Football
November 19th, 2018Yes, America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, led the Bucs on four touchdown drives in his first four series pinch-hitting for never-shoulda-started quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Jameis was great. But he did not protect the football.
It can’t be ignored.
It shouldn’t be glossed over.
It’s inexcusable.
The photo above is from the superstar JoeBucsFan photographer. It’s Jameis running for the end zone yesterday like he’s Steve Young (he’s not) and holding the ball like he’s eager to give it a way.
And here’s the next picture a second or two later, Jameis without the football.
It rolled into the end zone and Mike Evans pounced on it. Touchdown!
That felt nice, except for the fact Jameis shouldn’t be fumbling there. It was needless and senseless on 2nd-and-goal scramble — 2nd-and-goal. Jameis has to be better than that.
Joe’s going to serve up some forgiveness for the unforgivable considering Jameis came off the bench cold in the third quarter. But still, Jameis has to be better than that, and the basics of ball security and awareness should be a very easy fix.
November 19th, 2018 at 5:27 am
Let me make sure I’ve got this right Joe …
Giants 38, Bucs 35. We’re still in the running for a #3 pick in next year’s draft.
And for the record, the “basics of ball security and awwareness” AREN’T a very easy fix in Jameis’ case. He’s been doing this exact same thing since entering FSU. ‘Close enough’ might work in horseshoes, but not in the NFL.
November 19th, 2018 at 5:31 am
Maybe if he got some players that actually gave a damn about the game instead of looking toward Tuesday when they get their game checks and then running to the bank to cash them Jameis wouldn’t HAVE to do everything by himself!
November 19th, 2018 at 5:37 am
So how exactly, do you coach that kind of repetitive stupidity out of a player Joe?
I’ll wait.
November 19th, 2018 at 5:39 am
Thank you Joe!!!!
America’s quarterback must protect the football for us to win
November 19th, 2018 at 5:48 am
Here we go again. Credit Jameis for leading the team.
This was but one instance of several that he got away with. We didn’t win so it’s a non-starter anyway.
Leave it to the Bucs to make Eli look good!
November 19th, 2018 at 5:58 am
Jameis will never be great.
November 19th, 2018 at 6:01 am
He is still our best option. Fix the defense and Jameis will win more games than he loses. Tolerate until you can replace. Replacing him with less is not logical.
November 19th, 2018 at 6:14 am
He’s the same QB….Bucs are dumb if they think WinSTUNNED will ever change and take them somewhere …Item #1 = need new Quarterback
November 19th, 2018 at 6:26 am
I guess this is all a coaching error……they have failed to teach Jameis ball security……will be such an easy fix with a new coach….right.
November 19th, 2018 at 6:26 am
Joe of course did not write about the two INT thateould have happened if this wasn’t the Giants — Actually, Joe wrote about the near picks yesterday. And the Giants rank 10th in the NFL in interceptions, so it seems you’re thinking of another team. –Joe
Jamies is a 4th year starting QB ball security is a first year concern
Please Joe you watch Football tell me how this guys pluses outweigh his minuses
November 19th, 2018 at 6:32 am
This is the most frustrating part of watching Jameis play. He hasn’t had a complete game in ages as far as I can remember where he comes out of a game clean and with a W. The dude is a lock for a soul-crushing rookie mistake each and every time. That’s ok when we were blowing people out in what seems like a distant past, but now with games coming down to one or two scores, he doesn’t have that luxury.
Winston, please Focus On.
November 19th, 2018 at 6:35 am
I am a huge Jameis supporter but that play and the throw to Hump when Evans was open short are plays that is keeping him from being great. Those things HAVE TO stop or he will just be a good QB which I know is acceptable to him or us. I just cannot understand why he forces the ball sometimes as literally the throw to Hump that play is designed to get Evans the ball. Those are the ones that kill me cause if he gets those corrected man we will have a special player folks. But it is time as this is year 4 those throws just happen to often.
November 19th, 2018 at 6:36 am
Maybe if we let both average QB’s play a half each we will get the results of an elite QB. Fitz starts and Jameis finishes one week then flip the order in the following game. 1/2 + 1/2 = 1
November 19th, 2018 at 6:46 am
I defend Jameis a lot, but the turnover thing is out of control. Frankly, I blame Koetter Monken and especially Bajakian. What exactly had this guy done for Jameis or Griffin or Fitz since being the “QB coach”?? If you’re coaching isn’t getting through to a player (9 forget the reason) you need a new coach. Period.
November 19th, 2018 at 6:47 am
Ndog- That’s the frustration. He has no business throwing that football there. A 4th year QB in the 4th year of the same offense HAS to be better.
He literally got away with 2 easy interceptions and one fumble. It’s football and you need a little luck. The problem is that it the Bucs need it 3-5 times a game!
November 19th, 2018 at 6:52 am
A message to Jameis, if you want to be successful in this league, you need to forget everything that you learned from Suckpatrick and don’t throw 50/50 balls to D-Jax cause he only gives 25% effort on all plays.
Licht needs to cut Suckpatrick today.
November 19th, 2018 at 6:52 am
Well that play worked for us luckily, He will always take chances like that because that’s exactly what he has learned here in Tampa. Say what you want but trying to play from behind, trying to win the game and putting it on his shoulders because, that’s what is being asked of him when you look at it. We have no running game to rely on, no defense, no special teams. It’s all on the quarterback. Joe would love to see a breakdown on that last throw to D-jax. The guy gave up on that throw he looks at the ball then the defender and slows down and doesn’t even try to fight for the ball. He slowed down!!! even after he slows down he could have still made a play on that ball, complete “gave up” moment for D-jax.
November 19th, 2018 at 6:54 am
Jameis turns the ball over because he’s too excited trying to do.too much. The defense still gives up record high completion numbers and points. You can’t ask that man to stop taking unnecessary risks when the defense is giving up an unacceptable amount of scoring drives and points.
Jameis needs a defense , Jameis needs a coaching staff
November 19th, 2018 at 6:54 am
There is no evidence it will stop. His issue as a whole is he lacks awareness in a very bizarre way. He does the same dumb things over and over when the bullets start flying. QBs don’t magically evolve at age 24 or 25, they are who they are. Winston is every bit of Jay Cutler….You see the potential but the results are the same due to inconsistencies and carelessness
November 19th, 2018 at 6:58 am
Winston = Cutler. Well said.
November 19th, 2018 at 7:13 am
(2008) The Denver Broncos trade QB Jay Cutler to the Chicago Bears.
The Haul
• 1st rounder in 2009 (#18 overall)
• 1st rounder in 2010 ((#11 overall)
• 3rd rounder in 2009 (#84)
• QB, Kyle Orton
The Hauled-Off:
• Jay Cutler
• 5th round pick in 2009(#140 overall)
Note: This was coming off a season in which – Jay Cutler passed for 4526 yds 25TDS | 18 ints*. And made his 1st Pro Bowl
November 19th, 2018 at 7:30 am
Trying to coach up the intelligence of your QB to stop committing the same stupid mistakes is the 1st sign you’ve made a bad draft choice. There are too many players on the Bucs that constantly seemed checked out of the game. Everybody in Tampa knew the Bucs were going to find a way to lose that game. This franchise sucks top to bottom.
November 19th, 2018 at 7:31 am
Hey Joe,
Here is why they can’t connect on the Deep ball. DJAX is supposed to be the fastest guy on the team isn’t he?
https://twitter.com/KfromFLA/status/1064281062455549952
November 19th, 2018 at 7:35 am
(2006-2009) Jay Cutler
• Games Played: 48
• Pass Attempts: 1015 | Pass Attempts: 1624 | Cmp. %: 62.50
• Total Passing Yards: 11695
• Total Touch Downs: 70
• Total Interceptions: 57*
• Total Fumbles: 32 (*lost 12)
• QBR: 83.9
Vs.
(2015-2018) Jameis Winston
• Games Played: 48
• Pass Attempts: 1017 | Pass Attempts: 1657 | Cmp. %: 61.38
• Total Passing Yards: 12541
• Total Touch Downs: 74
• Total Interceptions: 50*
• Total Fumbles: 35 (*lost 16)
• QBR: 87.1
November 19th, 2018 at 7:36 am
His desire to win games at all cost is why things wil never change with him!
November 19th, 2018 at 7:39 am
If benching him because of his turnovers didn’t fix it , nothing will. You can’t fix stupid.
November 19th, 2018 at 7:40 am
Joe I know Jameis should’ve could’ve and would’ve but the truth is, he has the football on the opposite side of where he knows is the farthest point from the defenders and also if you replay the snap a split second before he gets it hit he was in motion to tuck the ball away. Why?because during the run he didn’t notice any defenders around him and as soon as he seen traffic he starts to tuck. Bad play by Jameis? No. As for the other would be interceptions,he didn’t under throw or over throw the receivers. Like the commentators we’re saying, lady luck just happened to be with Jameis for all his drives.
November 19th, 2018 at 7:46 am
*Pass Attempts: | Pass Completions:
November 19th, 2018 at 7:55 am
‘Tis the season for excuses and repeated [turnovers] and pardons.
How about both Quarterbacks stink???
Is there any truth serum available or the lasso or truth???
Stop making excuses for the same stuff that’s part of the reason we stink as well…
November 19th, 2018 at 7:55 am
Wonderlic(s):
• Jameis Winston: 27
• Jay Cutler: 26
Note: Coming out – scouts compared both QB’s to Brett Favre for their gunslinger attitude. lol
November 19th, 2018 at 7:56 am
There you have it boys and girls. Jameis Winston IS Jay Cutler!
So, if you’re perfectly OK with free-basing Tums, replacing remotes, and re-growing fingernails on Sundays for the next 10 years, Winston’s your guy!
Great breakdown as always LUV!
November 19th, 2018 at 7:59 am
Bucsfanman
Respect Bredren
November 19th, 2018 at 8:09 am
Jay Cutler is exactly on point.
November 19th, 2018 at 8:13 am
Lady luck was on his side w/ the fumble. Say, isn’t that one of his recurring issues? On 2 occasions his receiver had to turn into defensive backs to prevent an INT. I hope no one is blind to the fact we do not have a QB. Let’s not forget the Giants are 1-7 for a reason as well.
November 19th, 2018 at 8:14 am
BUC BELEIVER… Where do you get off?
You can’t show me one Bucs player who didn’t give max effort in every game this year. Other teams may have players who are all bout paychecks, but this team doesn’t seem to have them.
when you can make an educated football comment, and not a cliche’ about Horseshoes like Defense Rules, who probably sat at his computer for 10 minutes to think that one up… then you have something worthwhile to post.
Now go get your paycheck on Friday.
November 19th, 2018 at 8:15 am
Very nice Luv!
November 19th, 2018 at 8:19 am
Luvmybucs, great stats there and looking around the NFL for a comparison and I know ppl say big ben, but NO WAY……but you nailed it there….cutler and jameis are JAGs at qb and that gets you 8-8 at best
November 19th, 2018 at 8:22 am
He hasn’t protected the ball in 4 years what makes you think that he is all the sudden going to correct a known issue that he hadn’t addressed so far in his mediocre career. those of whom who highlight all the buc records he’s broken don’t justify his inability to protect the ball. Those records equate to being the hottest chick on an island full of blind people. A worthless value. That being said he’s earned the right to start for the remainder of the season. Dirk needs wins, Jameis is the best bet for that. Still think we cut him at the end of the season.
November 19th, 2018 at 8:36 am
And yet more excuses. He came in COLD???? So his brain does not tell him to protect the football anytime he is the QB of this team. And what is the excuse for the near picks? Trying hard to do to much again? Man you will never get the big picture. This is who he is. And what he does. Great he got 4 TD’s. But he also got lucky as hell.
November 19th, 2018 at 8:37 am
#timetotank
#2109draft
#tradejackson
#monetizedeadweightnow
#firedirktoday
November 19th, 2018 at 8:48 am
Bucs worst team in the NFL giveaways takeaways unacceptable will always lose when you lose that battle
November 19th, 2018 at 8:54 am
@Duthsty
@Doosh
Thx Brothas
November 19th, 2018 at 8:55 am
“the basics of ball security and awareness should be a very easy fix.”
How many THOUSANDS of times have coaches spoken softly to YELLED about ball security, fumbles and int’s at Winston in the last 6 years of his life…yet he is just as bad at ball security today as when he was 18 in freshman camp.
Obviously, no, it is not”easy” to fix no matter how much the Winston dingleberry polishers hope upon hope it comes true.
November 19th, 2018 at 9:19 am
LUV
great job breaking that down…..thanks for breaking my heart!!!!…lol…
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
November 19th, 2018 at 9:33 am
The Bucs defense sucks. That is dirks fault for refusing to address the coaching last season. “Hands off” is not a defense for you when you’re the head coach. If dirk is still employed on December 31st, I’ll be shocked. He’s done nothing to deserve more time. If Todd Monken is even remotely being considered for head coach, then Dirk should be fired today. If not, then you can kiss Monken goodbye also.
November 19th, 2018 at 9:40 am
Greedy
November 19th, 2018 at 9:41 am
If only he was smarter upstairs
November 19th, 2018 at 9:56 am
I wonder who the man crush will be for Joe when Winston’s Clown Show disappears. JW SUCKS DUDE.
November 19th, 2018 at 10:03 am
To place this in the proper context lets take a look at how some of the other younger QB’s fared yesteday in terms of “protecting the ball”
Weintz/Eagles o tds 3 ints
Jackson Ravens 0 tds 1 int
Trubinsky bears 1 td 2 ints (should have been three but the vikings guy dropped the pick six)
Watson Texans 1 td 2 ints
Turnovers are part of the game, but the Jameis haters go bat sh#$ crazy when he does it.
Additionally Jamies threw for more yards are more touchdowns than all these guys in less than one half of work. Within 3 points of the bucs record for a half while playing less than a half.
But lets get rid of the guy.
November 19th, 2018 at 11:30 am
Eric
And chances are if JW had played the whole game his luck would not have been the same….and we would be talking about how he had three int’s and should have had 2 more and a fumble..
I know it’s sad..but it’s true more often than not.
November 19th, 2018 at 12:02 pm
I don’t read a lot of this crap anymore…
November 19th, 2018 at 1:14 pm
^^ yea, it’s tough sometimes.
All these Bucs fans at each others’ throats.
— Cmon, we are all football family here…. we are all Bucs fans. We wear the same color, yknow?
November 19th, 2018 at 8:54 pm
Jameis played a quarter and a half and had at least 4 turnover worthy plays. Turnover luck was on his side this week only having the one int at the end but it looks like he will still be that turnover machine we all know.
November 19th, 2018 at 8:55 pm
None of these quarterbacks will help us win. Time to start over
November 20th, 2018 at 1:11 am
Joe just gave some bait to the Jameis Bashers. Jameis played great! If he starts he wins. The real person that needs to be bashed is Jason Licht for not giving Jameis enough time once he gets the snap to protect the ball. Fireeeee Licht!