Panthers 42, Buccaneers 28

November 4th, 2018

Paper or plastic?

Those are the options this week for Bucs fans.

What an embarrassment.

When you allow 35 points before halftime like the Bucs did today, you aren’t trying your best. And if you are, well, then there’s a serious problem with coaching and the front office.

Dirk Koetter has been yearning for his team to play a complete game, an all-phases effort. Well, it’s not happening over and over and over again.

Your Bucs now have lost five of their last six games. Things aren’t getting better. And Tampa Bay still is paying rent in Buccaneers Cove, aka last place in the NFC South.

It is that bad. It really is. And it’s sad.

Ryan Fitzpatrick was in for Jameis Winston today and the desired spark didn’t come. And the desperate fake punt didn’t do anything either.

Damn, Joe is so frustrated. Where was the urgency late in the fourth quarter on offense? Where was the healthy starting defensive line making a major impact? Why is the Bucs’ tackling so brutal — too often?

What will it take to stop the bleeding?

147 Responses to “Panthers 42, Buccaneers 28”

  1. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    Jameis Jameis Jameis Jameis

  2. Season Is Over Says:

    Dirk “We were done by Halloween” Koetter is done. No one will ever respect or follow him again. This is another year with two months of useless football for the fans to enjoy.

  3. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Show of hands, who here actually thinks Gerald McCoy is an elite DT?

  4. Tackleblockwin Says:

    šŸ™

  5. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    Fire Licht Fire Koetter Fire Jamies

  6. bucsfaninchina Says:

    More of the same. I’ll be choosing plastic

  7. Grt1 Says:

    I think coach Klueless should walk home

  8. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    They need to fire mike smith & defense will automatically get better… and maybe the guy making personnel moves has ZERO clue what he is doing, hey licht donte jackson is a pretty good DB

  9. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Plastic

  10. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    Trade the big softie GMC

  11. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Fitz was asked to do too much behind the 8 ball

  12. WutdaBucisthis Says:

    Gmc played?

  13. DP Says:

    GM – Joe Douglas
    HC – John Harbaugh
    DC – Rex Ryan (Defense cant be worse than it is right now)
    OC – Hue Jackson

  14. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    no team will win in the NFL with no defense either

  15. Season Is Over Says:

    I want them to fire Koetter before the press conference. He has proven himself as useless of a head coach as there has ever been in this league. The talent on this team has kept him afloat but they are no longer playing for him. It is over and you see it on the field.

  16. unbelievable Says:

    #SameOleBucs

    #SoftAsSh!t

    #GlazersDontCare

    #JustBlameJameis

  17. BucsFan90 Says:

    Fitztragic strikes again

  18. BucTrooper Says:

    Letā€™s get the cliches out of the way:

    šŸ”¹There were communication issues

    šŸ”¹We didnā€™t play our best

    šŸ”¹There wasnā€™t anything we didnā€™t see on tape

    šŸ”¹We have to get better

  19. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    GMC and his useless BLOWOUT garbage sacks……PATHETIC

  20. Rob Says:

    Fire Koetter immediately. He lost the team. All defensive staff fired too. They suck out loud. Canā€™t tackle, canā€™t buy an interception. Davis makes a nice plaything gets an unsportsmanlike for being a prick. Team is an undisciplined joke. Blow it up now

  21. Bucs14 Says:

    We should change our name to the “No D Bucs.” These guys are terrible. Vea has no technique. GMC is not the impact player he was hyped to be. Dbacks can’t cover or tackle.

    Offense has to put up 50 to win almost on a weekly basis.

    I blame the Glaziers for this mess. They obviously don’t care about football in Tampa. The rot starts at the top.

  22. gambelero Says:

    It’s what happens to teams that draft 4.55 corners when a 4.32 corner is on the board, that tries to fix the running game by drafting a running back instead of a lineman and keeps the coordinator who had the worst defense, one that was historically bad and hadn’t show any ability to train young players at any position other than linebacker.

  23. LakeLand Says:

    LakeLand Says:
    April 30th, 2018 at 10:21 am

    I thought the pick would be LSU CB Donte Jackson or Isaiah Oliver. MJ Stewart is another slow CB, and so is Carlton Davis. I thought they were going with the speedy Jackson. I also thought they were going with the speedy Derwin James at SS. But they went with another slow guy at SS. It looks like the Bucs want the slow guys who can hit, instead of getting faster in the secondary.

    Derwin James | 4.47 40 yard dash
    Donte Jackson | 4.32 40 yard dash

    So the Falcons take Oliver and Carolina take Jackson

  24. SteveK Says:

    Fitz is superior.

    4TD:2Turnovers= better than Jameis and provides a ā€œsparkā€!

  25. James Walker Says:

    This team can be MUCH worse. Just wait and see.

  26. BucfaninMi Says:

    See what happens when you let players cry and whine about a tough coach? Should have told the players to put up or shut up. This team let a good coach go because of GMC has no work ethic.

  27. Bucnjim Says:

    100 Million dollar invisible man and a 20 Million dollar bench warmer? These two donā€™t want to be here how many others?

  28. D-Rome Says:

    Sitting Jay-Miss was still the right call. Licht is showing he has failed as a GM.

  29. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    If this team had an AVERAGE defense, the bucs could’ve had a chance

  30. Bucfan1988 Says:

    For all the morons that think Jameis would have done better, GTFOH!!
    Fitz played well considering his O-line was garbage, had no running game, and the D gave up the booty.

    Fitz has 1 bad throw early when the game started….

    Jameis would have had 4 pics by 1/2 time against Carolinaā€™s D….

    This will be a TOTAL house-cleaning at year-end, GM included!!!!!
    No-brainer decision!!

  31. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    DP

    Rex Ryan and Hue Jackson are two of the biggest losers the NFL has ever seen. I’d rather keep what we have now then get those two idiots. Besides, why get rid of Monken, the architect of the NFL’s best offense?

  32. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    The offense has talent for sure but where is the talent on defense? Can we get a turnover? Ever?

  33. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Oh right and 1 interception through 8 games

    1

  34. TJ Says:

    Where was Vita Vea ? No impact at all again. He was drafted to help verse the run. This is one of the many reasons Licht is gone.

  35. Matts17 Says:

    Get lost Licht and take your garbage roster and head coach with you.

  36. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Sorry, but Carlton Davis was too slow for outside corner…………he needs to just stay in nickle

  37. LakeLand Says:

    LakeLand Says:
    April 30th, 2018 at 10:21 am

    I thought the pick would be LSU CB Donte Jackson or Isaiah Oliver. MJ Stewart is another slow CB, and so is Carlton Davis. I thought they were going with the speedy Jackson. I also thought they were going with the speedy Derwin James at SS. But they went with another slow guy at SS. It looks like the Bucs want the slow guys who can hit, instead of getting faster in the secondary.

  38. Gettinthebucs Says:

    At least I know I can use my Sundays for fishing now. I also get to start my fall NFL draft evaluations LOL! Hey Joe you guys should find somebody to do an NFL draft podcast on the site. It would be a hit!

  39. Rod Munch Says:

    Looked up the all-time best offenses in NFL history and there are only two teams ever that have scored more than 35 points a game, which youā€™d need in order to win with this defense.

  40. JameisWin55 Says:

    This team has not improved in 3 years under Koetter same dumb penalties did anybody see Cam laughing at the Bucs the entire game everything was like high school or Juco to him itā€™s embarrassing and heads should roll

  41. BucfaninMi Says:

    Should have kept Schiano. Heā€™s a better talent evaluator than half the GMs in the league.

  42. SteveK Says:

    Koetter is doing a great job.

    Jason Licht and Jameis suck out loud. Bad roster at in 5 years. And a qb that stinks after 3.5 as the #1 pick.

  43. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Draft QB Ryan Finley 2019!

  44. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    BENENOCH IS COMPLETE GARBAGE

  45. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    Iā€™ll take plastic so I can suffocate myself.

  46. LakeLand Says:

    The Bucs don’t have the NFL BEST offense

    LOL

  47. ATrain Says:

    Hello

  48. Pryda Says:

    Fire Koetter and play Jameis !

  49. BigMacAttack Says:

    Too late to trade the garbage. Licht already blew it.

  50. AfrikaThaRapper Says:

    I’m done. Time to clean house from the GM down. Play Fitz for the rest of the year. Bring someone in to fix the so called franchise quarterback. If he’s not fixable, then wash hands of the situation. Also draft a quarterback to

  51. Bucnjim Says:

    Have to change the culture soon but not sure how to get rid of the malcontents.

  52. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    The whole defense is just garbage except for JPP and KWON

  53. denjoe Says:

    A Good COACH!

  54. AfrikaThaRapper Says:

    ….compete with JW for what it’s worth. Sheesh…..go ‘Bucs.

  55. BigMacAttack Says:

    Donovan Smith is not good either. He doesnā€™t deserve a big contract. Heā€™s a back up at best.

  56. Bculaw Says:

    Itā€™s broken. Canā€™t be fixed. Beither line can win the point of attack. Canā€™t run the block. Canā€™t pressure. Canā€™t cover. Canā€™t force turnovers. The only hope is perfect play from the QB. Without it, this team is doomed.

    The team has not had an identity in years. If this team has an identity, it is that it is SOFT.

    BLOW IT UP!

  57. Brandon Bob Says:

    Unwatchable. Embarrassment. Complete joke. Time to start playing golf on Sundays again. Smh pathetic. Iā€™m 60 and have never in my life saw a defense this bad. Unfortunately looks like it canā€™t be fixed either. Once again us Bucs fans have nothing to look forward to

  58. LakeLand Says:

    Bottom Feeders

    Alone in the NFC South Basement

  59. denjoe Says:

    and coaching staff.

  60. Chris Cotten Says:

    Defense is TURRIBLE, RG is a GD JOKE

  61. BucfaninMi Says:

    Zero Clutch players. NOBODY ON THIS TEAM HAS ANY CLUE HOW TO WIN

  62. Red86 Says:

    No other Qb can win with this defense besides Tom Brady.

    Looks like many of us should do something else on Sunday. It the same crappy defense since Monte left.

    This defense for a long time has become a trivial questions for the worth defense.

  63. Rod Munch Says:

    Paper or plastic… I remember that bag boy Kurt Warner asking me that once.

  64. Kgh4life Says:

    In an earlier post i wrote that the return of Mccoy would be mute point and the Bucs will lose by 14, sorry i was correct.

  65. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    Drew Brees & saints look like a super bowl team, they draft smart & sign effective FAs in NO…. jason gump is like a donkey that paints

  66. DBS Says:

    This why I pay to go to Lightning games and never Bucs. Until the Glazers sell the Bucs will Suck.

  67. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    The defense is absolutely terrible

  68. Season Is Over Says:

    Let me guess that we are supposed to believe that Barber and his once again magical average of 2.8 ypc is a coincidence. Amazing how it always ends up between 2.7 and 2.9 no matter who is there. Lmfao! How wrong is this website all the time?

  69. Buc4evr Says:

    Out defense is a joke. Taylor and Bond are buffoons. Stop blaming Jameis for this mess caused by Licht and Koetter, they need to go today. It doesnā€™t matter at this point who coaches, a lot of players on the D shouldnā€™t even be in the nfl.

  70. BigMacAttack Says:

    Iā€™d keep Monken as interim HC and Duffner where he is until they replace the rest. Licht should have already been fired. Do it now and donā€™t wait. Make the change. The season is over for the Bucs.

  71. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Ok

    Brees and Payton………one is the best DUOS ever in the NFL cannot be compared to the BUCS…….we don’t have anything here even close to that

  72. Colonel Angus Says:

    I love talking draft by the first week of November, never gets old.

  73. theodore Says:

    Nine game winning streak will get us to 12-5.

  74. lambchop Says:

    This team sucks. Time for the coaches to get their cardboard boxes ready and get their belongings in order. There is too much talent to be laying down like this. The entire defensive coaching staff needs to be fired, Koetter is a goner, and Jason Licht will be gone.

    Monken could stay but it really depends who comes in here. This is going to be another offseason of intrigue.

    Fake punt on your end of the field looked like an admission that the defense sucks from the coaches on down. This defense can’t get a single turnover.

  75. Season Is Over Says:

    ROJO OHNO dreams of 2.9 ypc.

  76. Rod Munch Says:

    “Red86 – No other Qb can win with this defense besides Tom Brady.”

    As stated above that is actually untrue, Peyton Manning in 2013 had an offense that would win with this defense as well. Oh, and Tom Brady only had one year, 2007, where he scored enough points to win with this defense, current Tom Brady couldn’t do anything with this defense.

    Only two offenses in the history of the game have scored more than 35 points a game, which is about what this defense is giving up (I didn’t do the math yet, but it was 33 going into the game, and it only went up from there).

  77. firethecannons Says:

    on board with Buc fan#7431 fire Koetter, fire Licht and fire Jameis, get a secondary

  78. BuccoDav Says:

    Mute point… hahahahaha!

  79. NewTampaChris Says:

    I hope the Glazers aren’t expecting me to spend a dollar on anything Buc-related for the rest of the year. 35-7 is humiliating at this level.

  80. BucfaninMi Says:

    Also Iā€™d sit Evans ass! Little baby. He gave 0 effort

  81. TheBucsAnthem Says:

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  82. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    Oh and I love how this still becomes a Jameis discussion. WTF fans? He sat the bench and played zero time. Again he is not the problem. Insert whoever and the Fā€™n problem is our defensive players! We will never win with any QB at the helm so get over it. Our defense canā€™t tackle crap! And last I heard unless you crap off the side of a building it doesnā€™t move!

  83. LargoBuc Says:

    No spine plus no clue = another last place finish in 2018.

  84. Ed Kerber Says:

    This is smoldering bag of poop. Nothing can fix it. Bucs big name Big salary WRā€™s played like crap. hump was a star. JPP is a good piece but this team needs to be torn down to its foundation and rebuilt. Get draft picks for our assets. But first get someone to actually draft. Jason Licht needs to go. I was a big fan. But the 2018 draft was a big waste of time.

  85. BigMacAttack Says:

    Again Iā€™m so glad I didnā€™t renew my tickets this season. They are complete garbage.

  86. Rod Munch Says:

    TheBucsAnthem – Brees has never had a season where he’s average more than the 35 points a game, so no, Brees could not win with this defense.

  87. Season Is Over Says:

    Does Koetter have everyone tricked into thinking Monken is calling the plays so he doesn’t go down with the ship?

  88. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Well of course

    no team will win games with our hopeless defense

    WHAT DEFENSE??!?!?!?!?!?

  89. Aceofaerospace Says:

    At the end of last season, I campaigned to fire Koetter and staff now or waste another season and then fire him. Well here we, playing for draft picks in November. Thanks Glazers for not firing Koetter. Not! Thanks Koetter for not firing your BFF Smitty. Not! Pathetic! Another wasted season!

  90. MysticMagic Says:

    Can’t watch this crap anymore.
    Fire Koetter, Fire Licht.

  91. Crazed Bucs Fan Says:

    1.Jameis canā€™t hit Jackson
    2.Jameis only throws to Humphries.
    3. Jameis holds the ball too long.

    Fitzpatrick looked like a white Jameis Winston today.

  92. firethecannons Says:

    Licht’s 2018 draft
    Vea–way over rated
    Rojo-not an NFL caliber player
    MJ–too slow, not a playmaker
    Davis–ok
    Whitehead–below average
    Cappa–not even playable
    Watson–it doesn’t matter–we are are stacked @ WR
    Cichy–injury prone in college–no surprise-out for the season

  93. Chill Will Says:

    Find it funny that no one bashing Fitz on his last Int. Let that been Jamies all hell would of broke loose.

  94. Tackleblockwin Says:

    Draft all D

  95. Rod Munch Says:

    Dirk should be fired, he tried to blame Winston for losing after he had one bad game and with a decent kicker would have been 2-1 and is 3-1 in his last four. He threw his 24-year franchise QB under the bus to save himself, with predictable results. Had Dirk handled it differently, had he just said we’re going to play the hot hand this week and Winston has struggled with the Panthers, but I’m sure you’ll see Winston again – had he did that I think you keep him until the season is over and then fire him, but when he just throws his QB under the bus to save himself, it’s pretty pitiful – and he deserves to be fired.

    Personally I’d love to see Monken running this offense without Dirk insisting on all those 1st down runs up the gut to “balance” out the offense. There is no balance when you get 1 yard per carry, just throw the ball and work in the run naturally instead of meeting a quota like Dirk seemingly does.

    But in any case worse thing that could happen is giving Monken the head coaching job since now you’re back to the Dirk situation where you have him splitting his time and no full time OC again.

  96. AKickInTheBucNuts Says:

    See the Suck.

    Feel the Suck.

    Embrace the Suck.

    It’s a Suck Life!

  97. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Crazed Bucs Fan

    Subtract 3 TDā€™s and add a couple more INTā€™s and then he is Jameis

  98. cgmaster Says:

    Bucfan1988 the irony of reading a fitz supporter say the exact same excuses for him as jameis fans have been using for this year. Oh and lets not also count out the fitz numbers all came in garbage time, which is what you jameis haters would also say.

  99. simeon Says:

    I’m done. This team fuking sucks. WE HAVE SUCKED FOR A DECADE and not getting better any time soon.

  100. Alvin Scissors Harper Says:

    Fire Licht, Fire Koetter and do NOT resign Jay Miss for 20M. Hire a real football guy as President of Football Operations.
    I’ll take paper Joe, as it is more environmentally friendly, breaks down much better than plastic and it’s easier to put the eyes in when I wear the bag to RayJay.

  101. Rod Munch Says:

    Chill Will – You are very correct, everyone knows the situation, knows that you have to force the ball downfield to get back into the game, people don’t have an issue with Fitz doing it, but if it’s Jameis they’d literally say that play is why the team lost, not the 42 points given up. It’s why the Jameis haters are fake news, they members of an online lynch mob that copy and paste each other and do it so often they believe their own fake narrative.

  102. Resurrection of Duff Says:

    I think Koetter is loosing the team unfortunately.

    I know the defense sucks so i’m just enjoying the offense when I can. Numbness to loosing for over a decade makes it easy to not be upset anymore. Time to clean house.

    The Bucs are making Joe’s job to easy. So many topics to choose from.

  103. BigMacAttack Says:

    Norv Turner fooled Duffnerā€™s defense so much today. Bad teams always find a way to lose. They might as well just play Jameis now in hopes that heā€™ll get it figured out. The season is over so it doesnā€™t matter. Evans looked like he didnā€™t care at all today.

  104. SteveK Says:

    Rod Much,

    Youā€™re smart and usually on the other side of my opinion I believe in order of priory of Blane:

    1. Licht- year 5: no RB, no CB
    2. Jameis- year 4 and you should be great. Youā€™re not and itā€™s sad because youā€™re off field transgressions had a saying in you not meeting expectations.

    3. Koetter- you shouldā€™ve fired Mike Smith last year.

  105. SteveK Says:

    We should cut GMC and Grimes next year. Save $26 million and buy OG, CB, WR

  106. richardtyson Says:

    Tank Tank Tank

  107. BigMacAttack Says:

    Even if Fitz didnā€™t throw the last pick and scored a TD, they were down by 14 and still going to lose. You canā€™t win when you canā€™t block or rush the passer. It wouldnā€™t matter if Aaron Rodgers was the Bucs QB. The team as whole sucks.

  108. SteveK Says:

    WR=RB*

  109. Ndog Says:

    For the Atlanta game Jameis had 395 yards 4 tds and 2 picks and it was all his fault, so since Fitz had basically the exact same game today, with less yards, this loss is on him correct? And no I am not happy but apples to apples right?

  110. Rod Munch Says:

    SteveK – Thank you, I’m extremely smart AND funny, don’t forget funny.

  111. SteveK Says:

    Great post BigMac-

    We canā€™t protect, pressure, or run it.

  112. BigMacAttack Says:

    The Lightning are on tonight at 6:30. Just sayin

  113. Rod Munch Says:

    Ndog – Not to mention Jameis wins that ATL game if you have a kicker, and didn’t get his yards in garbage time after the Falcons were up huge and left off the gas, it was a back and forth slugfest, and then Dirk decided to run a trick play on the past play instead of just throwing it to OJ or Howard or Brate and letting them go up and get the ball – but nope, a trick play run double lateral was what Dirk thought gave them the best chance.

    Dirk is basically an idiot as a HC. Great OC and it’s too bad we couldn’t keep him solely as an OC since I think he brings a lot to the table when that is the only thing he is doing, but as a HC he’s a moody whinny d-bag.

  114. BigMacAttack Says:

    I canā€™t pick on the players too much for bad attitudes. The team is mismanaged. The only thing their good at is losing games. Iā€™m sure every one of them is frustrated but the two men at the top need to held accountable now.

  115. BigMacAttack Says:

    Iā€™m just so sick of losing. Weā€™re worse than Cleveland and Zi donā€™t know how we beat them.

  116. Crazed Bucs Fan Says:

    A loss is a loss. There is no good loss unless itā€™s weight loss. But Bucs ā€œfansā€ seem content with any loss as long as ā€œFitzmagicā€ is under center. Never seen so many ā€œfansā€ looking for a silver lining in my life.

  117. Anonymous Says:

    Koetter needs to go and get a coach that will let Jameis be Jameis. Jameis is a gunslinger in the Favre mold and if any body remembers when Favre played he threw a lot of interceptions. In one playoff game against the Rams he threw 6 picks. If Favre had played for Tampa instead of Green Bay he would have been run out of town by the fans for taking so many chances. I hope that wherever Jameis goes next year he gets a coach like Favre had in Mike Holmgren. Holmgren didn’t try to change Favre, he lived with the interceptions because that was who Favre was. This area needs a QB like Alex Smith, a lot of check downs to the RB’s, 15 – 20 TD’s a year and 6 or 7 int’s a year. Win more than lose and never win a Superbowl. Best of Luck in the future Jameis and I’ll continue rooting for you when you win future Super Bowls in the future outside of Tampa Bay., As far as a new Coach for next year I have no idea. None of the current coordinators in the NFL really look any good so I would have to look to College for our next Head Coach

  118. JimmyJack Says:

    Can’t even expect this team to entertain us for more then 15 minutes. A half hour into every game and the game is all but over.

  119. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Crazed Bucs Fan

    You are high

    I donā€™t see anyone happy with the loss

  120. JimmyJack Says:

    I want an interim HC. Or a player coach would even be better then this.

  121. JimmyJack Says:

    I hate myself

  122. John B Says:

    I was not expecting to win, but certainly not giving up the 35 pt first half again

    Was hoping maybe Washington/NYG/SF run could be a season saver – but I just canā€™t see this D stoping anyone…

    Like others have said – if JW is in there, he throws 6 picks or takes 8 sacks, or both – pressure was insane all day

    Mike Evans looked bad today

    The fake punt call, cries desperate

    No moves at the trade deadline speaks volumes

    No LB help? No help at RG? No help at corner or S?

    Did anyone else notice Whitehead miss several tackles? Or Carlton David get beat over and over?

    How about watching Taylor and Bond at LB – they are just bad bad bad

    RG is a turnstile, LT too sloweewwwwww to play the position at a high level

    The GM is out of touch or maybe he was not allowed to make any moves

    We are only competitive when the other team is having a mid game snack up by 4 scores

    As soon as it gets close, they score, and we wilt again

  123. Buc407 Says:

    Anew coaching staff and gm….and maybe a miracle on top of that

  124. Buc407 Says:

    Ronde barber for head coach! Or bring in brooks lol

  125. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    I got an idea we only draft D and every round the fans get to vote real-time on who we should draft next and that pick goes… for some reason I have seen it time and time again the fans know best on who to draft while Licht gets it wrong every time in the first couple of rounds. Even when he gets three tries in the second round he still Fā€™s it up!

  126. Chill Will Says:

    I promise you this if Jamies got a premiere RB and a good RG and LT along with a decent D you people would really see how good he is. But until then no matter whoā€™s under center this team will not be good.

  127. SteveK Says:

    Fans canā€™t do worse.

    Facts. We are the bottom of the NFC, a hair ā€œbetterā€
    than Cleveland.

  128. lurker Says:

    “moody whinny d-bag”

    that is called projection, rod munch!

  129. Ndog Says:

    Just listened to Dirks press conference and he said Fitz played fine we just got to play better around him. After the Falcons game in which Jameis had basically the exact same game he basically said Jameis lost the game. This my friends is why Jameis struggles AND why this coach is an idiot.

  130. Ed Says:

    Fitz gave up his body today. The Panthers killed him. They lost because played with no juice. A team without hitters, without heart. Watching a real game, Rams vs Saints now, 2 teams that come to play and don’t take plays off like so many Buccaneers do.

  131. Chill Will Says:

    Iā€™ll cut/trade McCoy, DJax during the off-season for help on the D

  132. Rod Munch Says:

    If it was purely up to me, I’d make Sapp the Bucs emperor, a new position that is like an overlord above a GM where he also handles all public relations, deals with the media, makes choices like the uniforms, tells the coach and GM what to do, encourages the players to talk trash and not be a bunch of dullards, etc – basically he walks around the building with complete powers and gets in everyone’s face and no one can do anything about it. Man, it would be the most entertaining team in football, and remember, football is literally entertainment so it’s a perfect fit.

  133. Rod Munch Says:

    lurker – Ouch, you got me…

  134. Sumo Says:

    I’m so tired of the season being over in the beginning of November. Its an insult to season ticket holders. I will not be one of them next year. Good bye. I have spent too much money on this team over the years and I’ve had it. What a waste of time and money.

  135. Eezy Says:

    This team sucks and everybody think Dirk is a good offense of coordinator. Let’s see a guard that stinks number 77 every week. We can’t run the ball. We get garbage yards because teams feel sorry and let up. Then kick our face in when we get close. So, tell me what good offense. The first half of this game tells us about our offense.

  136. Crazed Bucs Fan Says:

    Walkdaplank…
    If you visit more than one site, or actually talked to other Bucs fans, then you would understand where Iā€™m coming from. But since youā€™re too busy sniffing Fitzpatrickā€™s beard, you must be the one who is high.

  137. gambelero Says:

    That long pass to Jackson that have tried for looked like so many of Jameis “overthrows” last year. Never tries to get in high gear, doesn’t run to the ball. People forget Fitz’s fumble inside our own 20. We got lucky and our center recovered it. That fumble was totally not Fitz’s fault, blindside sack on a total whiff by Turnstile Smith. If Carolina recovers it, that would have been the play of the game, proverbial straw that broke the camels back. That fumble reminds me of so many Jameis has had the last two seasons, invariably not recovered by us, but but by the opposition.

    I think Fitz played his heart out today. Still, if you ran multiple simulations with Jameis starting, the mean result would come out between 42-28 to 45-35, Panthers. We only win if we get 3-4 turnovers. No other way.

  138. gambelero Says:

    half tried for

  139. Kobe Faker Says:

    “Getting a 2nd/3rd round pick for djax would have been good for our franchise future but

    We are in win now mode”

    Kobe Faker

  140. ChipBuc Says:

    After watching the first half it is plainly obvious it makes no difference who the QB is, the results are the same. It’s almost like ground hog day every game. The bucs fall way behind in the first half. In the second half the bucs defense makes some defensive stops and catches up to either tie or be one score behind. Then when the game is on the line, the defense reverts to first half defense, and gives up the final score to put the game out of reach. It’s so predictable it’s sickening. Sorry but at this point a complete housecleaning is needed to change things. That includes GM, Head Coach, and all the rest of the coaching staff. Getting rid of a few high priced players who arn’t producing woulden’t hurt either. Bring in a top GM and let him pick the next head coach. Try something different, leave the Glaziers out of this next important hire. I’m hoping this is what the Glaizers do, but that’s wishful thinking on my part. Just my opinion.

  141. Kansas95Buc Says:

    @Rod Munch
    Man you been preaching today, your points have been valid today

  142. Bucsace Says:

    Koetter, Licht, Winston……Gone, Gone, The Damage Done

  143. EARL BEDFORD Says:

    Defensive/offensive line! WOW! As John McKay was asked about the execution of his team, “I’m all for it!”

  144. stpetebucsfan Says:

    There is too much blame to go around to single out folks but I have some candidates and also a thought.

    JW OWES us big time!!! We overlooked his rep and sign him #1.
    He.gets the suspension and this season starts in controversy and we have yet to recover.

    Koetter has NO discipline on this team…endless brain dead undisciplined penalities…he should be fired Monday after that Carlton Davis joke. Running his mouth at Funchess after he had been Funchess beotch all day is disgusting…it’s not fire in the belly…it’s selfish lack of discipline.

    Chasing after NFL refs…fighting other players…JW has had no discipline but here’s a really wild idea.

    I said JW owes us because if we could somehow sign JW to a deal commensurate with his value…get if not a hometown discount at least a “mea culpa” discount we bring him back with Fitz. Fitz and JW are far more alike in their styles than not…the major difference besides the beard is above the neck. Fitz has ten more years of experience…has NEVER been a prima donna…something that JW thought he’d perfected.

    Perhaps JW has chilled after this experience. I wouldn’t mind him coming back for the right price and the right role. Fitz is a good mentor and if we had those guys QB would not really be the issue.

    EVERYTHING else gets invested in DEFENSE.

  145. Not there yet Says:

    TheBucsAnthem Says:
    November 4th, 2018 at 4:26 pm
    Fitz was asked to do too much behind the 8 ball

    This comment makes all bucs fans look stupid really anthem?. This defense has been horrible for over a decade ever since Derrick Brooks was shown the door. Every quarterback weā€™ve had since is behind the 8 ball. Fitz was asked to do too much is that a joke when they were going score for score with the saints week one? Dirk is trash and this offense is smokeband mirrors.

  146. Oneilbucs Says:

    Hold up now when we played the falcons Jamies had 400 yards and 4td and 2 int and we lost and y’all said Jamies lost that game so now when fizpatrick do it y’all don’t blame him for the lost. Now y’all love to say race card but you tell me the difference . I told y’all that with some of the people on this site Jamies race plays apart of it why y’all hate him so much there go some more facts.

  147. niko Says:

    Hey all you Jameis Haters, Jameis has lost only one of those 5 losses, the other four are on Fitztragic. but hey, lets get rid of the 25 year old talent who has amazing numbers just also has a lot of picks, which can be corrected. how long till another franchise QB comes along again so we can run HIM out of town? GOOBERVILLE