Just Nuke It
November 8th, 2018
Offseason fix for defense.
Jason Pierre-Paul is the 2018 Bucs MVP.
AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht committed a felony by stealing JPP from the Giants. Guy has been a godsend and on pace for double-digit sacks, something this team hasn’t had in what seems like forever (Simeon Rice had 14 sacks in 2005).
JPP is not just a one-trick pony, but solid on the run too. Still, he was brought in to get after quarterbacks. So you would think a team that has a double-digit sack man would have at least an OK pass rush.
Not with the Bucs.
Per the good folks at NFL Matchup, seen on BSPN, only two teams have less quarterback pressure percentage than the Bucs. That’s just unreal and is yet another example of why the Bucs are on their way to having the worst defense in NFL history.
And if that happens, every defensive player not on a rookie contract and not named “JPP” or “Vinny Curry” should be given their walking papers. Sure, you can bring Kwon Alexander back on the cheap since he’s coming off a knee injury.
Joe likes a lot of the guys on defense but if your defensive unit is worse than any NFL defense in history, worse than any expansion team defense that ever took an NFL field, what’s the point?
Just nuke it.
It’s a new TAMPA TWO, presented by Caldeco Air Conditioning and Heating. Another can’t-miss production from The Identity Tampa Bay and Joe.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:02 pm
I agree Joe… but I’d only keep #90
November 8th, 2018 at 12:05 pm
Can’t disagree. It is in a word a “trave-sham-ockery”!!!!
November 8th, 2018 at 12:07 pm
Load of D Lineman coming in the draft…1st-2nd round priority…CUT MCCOY!!! I think the secondary never had a chance with so many young players. Need a CB as high pick too.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:12 pm
I do think the Bucs should jettison most of their defense players.
After I focused on the play of Gerald McCoy last week I was surprised to see how many times he ends up on the ground or is pancaked by one offensive lineman.
It would be shocking for him to be on the Bucs roster next year.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
What do we expect, we had DT lead the team in sacks the past 5-6 years, who does that outside of the Rams and Jville who still have other Outside rushers
November 8th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
The team needs to go into full rebuild mode. Some of the players with a lot of value like Mike Evans need to be on the trade block too. Evans is great but no need to waste him for the next 3-5 years playing for a crap team rebuilding. Accumulate draft picks and totally burn this current team to the ground. They are getting worse rather than better with no end in sight. Unfortunately it is time to go back to square one and start the reboot with a new GM and coach. Would be nice if they would also hire a team president.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:16 pm
@Wausa
…GMC is a fraud. When has he ever made a game changing play? I don’t recall. Yeah, he gets off the snap quick but then what? nothing…It’s time this goofy, soft, batman wannabe gets the boot!
November 8th, 2018 at 12:18 pm
The “real” fans asked for that this past offseason!!!!!! instead, the coaches were told to try and build around GMC once again for the umpteenth time!!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 8th, 2018 at 12:20 pm
I find it funny that every year we say it can’t get any worse but they keep proving us wrong.
Here’s my positive take of the day. We are the best at being the worst, great job defense!
November 8th, 2018 at 12:20 pm
I agree, Licht committed fraud by pretending to be a GM. Licht got 1 pick right and missed on every other one. I believe any one on this web site could have done better than that. FIRE LICHT.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:20 pm
This was Gummy93’s year to finally shine.
We got him the help that his Worshippers wanted…..
He is a total POS.
Bye bye Softie!!!!!
November 8th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Carlton Davis will ball out next year. Need two.more press corners, dline and oline
November 8th, 2018 at 12:27 pm
Licht got one pick right. Evans, oj, j Evans, marpet, Kwon, beckwith, vh3(slot), smith, Godwin, Davis. Amongst others TBD.
Wow guys look! Another dumb comment by another dumb buc fan!
Funny to see people post so much that know so little. No lives?
November 8th, 2018 at 12:28 pm
Y’all see Quinn’s sack total in Miami? 1!
November 8th, 2018 at 12:37 pm
It’s a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:41 pm
Who ever the GM of the Bucs is should start over from scratch on the defensive side of the ball and that means getting rid of GMC, Lavontae David, VHIII, resigning Kwon on one year prove it deal. Also bringing in some mentally tough free agents to teach the young guys how to play.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Add Beckwith to the list of keepers and you’re right… don’t care if we cut every last one of them on D.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:47 pm
In response to
“And if that happens, every defensive player not on a rookie contract and not named “JPP” or “Vinny Curry” should be given their walking papers. Sure, you can bring Kwon Alexander back on the cheap since he’s coming off a knee injury”
November 8th, 2018 at 12:50 pm
It’s going to hurt, but pulling the band-aid and getting every single pick you can for guys like Gman and LVD is the best move.
The only players worth keeping and building around the next couple of years on defense are JPP, Kwon, Evans, and possibly Carlton, who it’s way too early to give up on.
November 8th, 2018 at 12:54 pm
What good is getting rid of most of the players if you keep the same bad coaches?
Some players need to move along, retire, etc, but a whole new coaching staff is needed- offense and defense.
November 8th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
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November 8th, 2018 at 1:06 pm
Why the love for Curry? He’s done next to nothing. JPP has gotten us 8 sacks… but honestly hasn’t applied much pressure other than the 8 QB takedowns he’s had. He isn’t getting pressure on the QB unless he’s taking him down. Carl Nassib has been decent in both areas and at the very least has played as well if not better than Curry. I would keep JPP and Nassib. Everybody else has been a JAG.
November 8th, 2018 at 1:15 pm
No player on this defense deserves any accolades
They give up 34.4 PTS/G
November 8th, 2018 at 1:23 pm
GMC needs to be out cuz his attitude has infected this team for a long time.
November 8th, 2018 at 1:32 pm
This team has been steadily going downhill ever since the Glazers bought Manchester United. They were competent owners before the ManU purchase and now suddenly they can’t make a decent hire of a GM or a Coach? I call BS. Wait for the Ray Jay lease to be up in about 10 years and suddenly they are going to blame us for not going to see their sh!tty product and that’ll be their justification for moving the team to the UK. Remember when the NFL used to talk about a team in Mexico City and how that ended right around the time of the ManU purchase. Suddenly they are progressively playing more games at Wembly Stadium. Get ready for the B-UK-aneers. Mark it down, it’s coming.
November 8th, 2018 at 1:37 pm
“This Defense will always be comical because of our supposedly last line of defense sure tackler …
Justin Evans is a total BUST”
Kobe Faker
November 8th, 2018 at 1:44 pm
Joe this would be my plan for a total defensive rebuild….
#1 Get rid of the entire coaching staff
#2 Go get Jimmy Johnson
#3 Strip the defense down to the bone with only LVD,Kwon,Carlton Davis, GMC,JPP, and Curry
#4 TRADE GMC for Patrick Peterson from AZ
#5 Find competent players to fill in the defense
As for the offense….
#1 Go get Leveon Bell
#2 Get Colin Kaepernick
#3 Draft the top Olinemen l
#4 Sign the best Olinemen available
#5 Trade Jameis for a top DE
It ain’t easy but if you want success you have to put in the work.
Oh and get Rex Ryan for Defensive Coordinator
November 8th, 2018 at 1:55 pm
El Buc
You’re joking right?
November 8th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
@Deucelarue No I’m not.you have a better idea?
November 8th, 2018 at 2:26 pm
The current GM has proven he cannot evaluate defensive talent well enough to rebuild a defense.
November 8th, 2018 at 2:43 pm
Should have nuked the defense last year and got draft picks and everyone would have an excuse for poor defense if they had kept Mike Smith this amateur coaching staff is the problem along with high priced guys who are only elite at cashing game checks.
November 8th, 2018 at 3:00 pm
Thanks Joe I agree,
This Pillsbury dough boy soft defense lead by the big softie gerald mccoy gots to go
November 8th, 2018 at 6:45 pm
Do you dump Ronde Barber because the Bucs defense fell off a cliff? No.
You don’t do anything with David, he’s still one of the best LB’s in football – and that means like top 3, you don’t have him go anywhere.
For McCoy, I like him, but his cap number is huge and he’s getting old. If you HAVE to make cap room then you move him – but idiots that think he’s terrible are just that, idiots. He might only have a couple of years left however, so again, if you need the cap room then you do what you have to do, but ideally he plays his entire career here and the idiots who want him run out of town instead commit hara-kiri as form of protest.
As for the rest of the guys… JPP has done well, but again, he probably only has another year or two of production left, so if you can get something of value for him, then go ahead.
For Vinny Curry? Why would you want to keep him? He has provided anything and he was let go by the Eagles for a reason – and we’re seeing that reason.
Uh, who else is left that isn’t on a rookie deal? Gholston, he could go, but his cap number comes down quite a bit next year, perhaps to the point you just keep him as he can play inside or out – but I don’t really care either way. Kwon you try to keep on the cheap, but it sounds like he’s not all that interested in sticking around, and while I really do like Kwon, he’s not in David’s top tier like he thinks he is, and the Bucs shouldn’t give him that kind of money – but maybe an undervalued 2-year deal ($5m/yr range perhaps?) while he comes back from injury works for both sides. Grimes? He finally is showing his age and won’t be back.
That is a massive amount of turnover however – not that it really matters when you’re this bad, but there is very little likelihood you could replace so much of your defense in one offseason and see much of an improvement, in paricular if those rookie DBs don’t take a huge step forward.
November 9th, 2018 at 2:43 am
They might as well stick with what they got and start rebuilding underneath. Keep McCoy, JPP, and David along with Kwon and Beckwith. Also Grimes and Hargreaves as well. Justin Evans too but really have a defensive draft that includes complete and respectful drafting on defense instead of one sided drafting like they did this off-season and every off-season since Jon Robinson, now Titans gm, once roamed next to Licht left town. Licht hasn’t had a good draft since his man Jon Robinson left for the Titans.
The picks they made last year after trading down we’re horrible fits for our defense. I mean instead of getting D. James, J. Oliver, D.Jackson whom all btw fit our defense especially if we go back to more Tampa Two. I mean we could’ve got C. Davis in the third as a bonus and just left running back alone if we believe P. Barber to be the starter he is now. I mean we picked up practice squad running backs better than the one we drafted. Honestly S. Wilson has gotten more reps than RoJo.
We need to draft B. Love from Stanford with our first pick this season and draft defense from there. If we keep Licht he won’t make the same mistake as last year either. Vea will be a valuable piece but we need to draft two defensive tackles that fit our Tampa Two once we get back to using it. We got corners but if we can get another trade like last season I say draft one stud for all three phases of the defense with the first four picks regardless. No offensive players should be drafted unless it’s a steal at running back.
Far as QB ride with Fitz until the end of his time. Jameis just isn’t that day 1 dude that ppl expect him to become but if he honestly rides that pine humble and learn from Fitz he can become successful in the NFL trust me but Jameis doesn’t need to play anymore this season. He still has the bad ankle and shoulder to get scoped and he should have those procedures because those ailments play into his turnovers. Winston needs to get healthy and learn how to win from the bench like they originally should’ve done when he was drafted instead of putting him out there to prove Marriotta backers wrong within the fan base. Pay him the $20 mil to return next season and see what he’s got with the big money behind him or just let him sit behind Fitz again for $20 mil I’m not against it.
November 9th, 2018 at 10:31 am
So who do we have left after we blow up the DL?
JPP…Nassib…Gholston…draft picks and FA’s. How does that sound?
November 9th, 2018 at 10:35 am
Gholston is toast after this season. Jason Licht cannot drink enough beers to concoct a reason to keep that oaf with his salary. And if there is a new GM he probably cannot release him quick enough.