“I Missed On Jameis”
November 2nd, 2018
Blowing “Taps” on America.
Man, it seems as if the only friends America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, has in the football world are on this here website.
(Some) of his teammates don’t want him. His coaches have thrown him to the side. Fans have turned on him. It’s getting ugly.
Even Hall of Fame players are after him. First it was Warren Sapp. Then Brett Favre. Now add Cris Carter to the mix.
The co-host of “First Things First,” seen weekday mornings on FS1, has now thrown in the towel on Jameis. Carter confessed and almost seemed to apologize that he thought Jameis was going to be a stud for the Bucs.
Carter now says, his analysis was way off base.
“I missed on Jameis,” Carter said. “I thought he would be a lot better especially after seeing him in his first two years in the NFL, I thought he would be a lot better by now. I missed on Jameis as a quarterback.
“I thought he would have better anticipation. I thought he would read defenses better because he is a smart guy from a football X’s and O’s standpoint. I was really, really wrong on what Jameis was going to be in pro football.”
Joe hasn’t given up on Jameis yet. We will likely find out on Sunday if the Bucs have. If Jameis is inactive Sunday, then you know he’s toast. That’s a dead giveaway the Bucs don’t want him hurt so they can wash their hands of him cleanly in the offseason.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:07 am
The Bucs are organization is once again toast. JW will succeed someway and somehow but this team will remain in the basement
And F Djx. I agree with Justin P….it’s the worst signing ever and ripped this team apart
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:07 am
Jameis’ regression at this point in his career is inexcusable.
Dude looks worse than any other QB in the NFL; including back-ups.
I wish him well, but he might end up being a perennial back-up til he figures this thing out later in his career.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:13 am
Jamyth peaked in college….happens to many many great college football players…we’ll know for sure after his next stretch of starts
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:18 am
Inactive, wow. The ol’ RGIII treatment.
Joe have you heard any inklings that may happen?
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:20 am
Yes, you did miss Chris! You also missed when you said that Jameis would never start again when he returned from suspension. And you missed again when you said that Dirk Koetter was calling great plays down in Tampa. Joe, I don’t know why you put these Know nothing, overpaid guessers on this here site.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:22 am
Yeah it’s DJax fault definetely.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:25 am
Cris Carter: “I was really, really wrong on what Jameis was going to be in pro football.”
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Cris buddy, your are not the only one, most of us here on different degree believed or hoped this is going to be the ONE.
Thank you for coming out, and we hope your voice join our voices, is going to make a different on front office decisions.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:26 am
He telegraphs his throws, risks the tight window throw, throws high sailing balls, can’t hit anyone in stride, lacks rush awareness, slow with decisions, careless ball handling…and has been given second and third chances on off the field crap. What more do the Joes need to see before getting on board with everyone else? He sucks at QB, sucks with leadership and can’t be trusted. The #1 draft status is his only highlight on the resume. Who cares about that. 4 years is more than enough spent on this fraud. Trade for Mullins or whoever. Don’t think he can’t be replaced…
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:29 am
@Joe Blahak
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exactly …
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:29 am
Joe
Let history repeat itself.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:32 am
Right. Chris Carter knows nothing about real PRO quarterbacks. It’s a shame he never played with them and knows what he is talking about.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:33 am
Damn Damn Steve y’all get excited when people just keep dogging the $hit out of JW. 2002 Bucs vs Packers Farve tossed,count em’ 4 picks in that game when both teams was 8-2. Come on damn quit just trying to stir the pot Just like the Uber junk got old with y’all posting stories every hour, it’s the same bull$hit now. How about what’s up Beck or Spence, can y’all fit them in?
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:38 am
DJAX is getting too much heat….if Jaboo can’t hit a moving target, that is on Jaboo. There is a reason that DJAX has had much more success with a smart quarterback than one that refuses to get better.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:38 am
I hope Jamies is inactive Sunday
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:43 am
I was wrong on Vinny also. Williams got ran out by Culverhouse. Dilfer and Freeman I never was high on.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:43 am
Dude had 1 really bad game like many many many other QBs in the league.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:44 am
The ten year drought tells us it’s not all on Jamies. I’ve tried to express my doubts by facts and reason, but there’s a great deal of insults and name calling, and I wonder if that doesn’t suggest the greater problem.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:45 am
Do you know why Hump is one of Jamyth’s favorite targets ?….because he is usually standing still when Jamyth throws him the ball
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:49 am
Nah no way lol I smell smoke. Jared Goff was a bust until he got a new coach. I’m not trying to say Winston would suddenly become accurate or elite with a new coach but bucs are fools, I bet there are a bunch of are waiting for this guy to get cut so they can get him on the cheap and make a run. Fitz is fools gold and no doubt he has the deep ball and the team throws more slants and draw plays when he’s in there but without the deep ball he won’t get Sunday don’t trust home to go on 80 yard drives without the same stupid mistakes under pressure. People sound crazy saying at 24 this kid is done, this franchise is hot garbage so he’s probably done here but watch what happens when he leaves. Haters are the only one saying his career is over even though you know talented guys get more chances than they should
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:49 am
If the albatross is still cruising the sidelines Sunday in uniform the circus will continue.
I dont think the organization has the balls to turn the obvious page and activate Griffen and deactivate Winston. They’ll keep playing this damn game with Winston and Fitzpatrick and it will blow up in everybody’s face.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:50 am
Lamarcus
dirk was the worst signing ever….he couldn’t develop Winston….couldn’t run the ball…..had a horrible defense….ST regressed under him…..mishandled the clock….poor play calling the past 2years…..no physicality…..blowouts….
I mean the list goes on and on…..
Kris Richard for HC!!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:53 am
Bill Walsh couldn’t coach Jameis up….
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:58 am
Panthers 41 Bucs 24
Fitz throws multiple picks…. Too bad I cancelled Sunday ticket because JW was bounced. So I will watch Fox and CBS games this week.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:01 am
Real fandom there Lamarcus. The Bucs could roll Joe out there as QB and I wouldn’t miss it. So you’re a Winston fan and not a Bucs fan?
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:02 am
How can this possibly happen to “America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler, Jameis Winston”?……….I root for Jameis to succeed….but he is not and was never “America’s Quarterback”……..That is an embarrassing moniker.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:04 am
813
JW stats and Glazer’s drop the bank on Arians.lol JW is Arians Qb and match made. Save the franchise qb face
But Bucs do what Bucs do. Same as Browns. They will cut ties get another guy and wash rinse repeat
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:04 am
A lot of QB’s early career stats have been brought up to demonstrate a similarity to some of Jameis’ early stats.
The guy that I was actually thinking about, though, was Terry Bradshaw.
The reason I say this, is that until he found his true success as a HOF QB in Pittsburgh, he was equally as polarizing as Jameis is. Half the fan base could see a future star… and half the fan base thought that he was the worst QB of all time and could not wait to get him out of town.
Over his first 5 years in Pittsburgh, Terry Bradshaw had
48 Touchdowns
and a mind blowing
81 interceptions.
The next season, the magic began in Pittsburgh.
All I am saying….
is that it is food for thought.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:08 am
Dewey
Sick and tired of losing and mainly unstableness. I been thru a lot I’m tired of it. I’m ready to upload everything and stay away from: incompetence, unstableness, losing, blow outs, weak minded FANS…… It’s the fans who disturb me the most. I don’t want to be part of this no more……. Soon come tho when I pick my next team. F the Bucs sorry losing franchise
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:15 am
“Soon come tho when I pick my next team. F the Bucs sorry losing franchise”…..LOL never was ….never will be a real fan of any team…why do I sense a new screen name coming to
“winners never quit and quitters never win”…bye bye…
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:15 am
Dewey Selmon Says: (on being a fan)
“The Bucs could roll Joe out there as QB and I wouldn’t miss it.”
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Man, could not possibly agree with you more. That is what being a fan is all about. I love it. — and yes, it is what it makes it THAT MUCH MORE rewarding when a team that has struggled finally finds success,, or wins a Super Bowl (in glorious 2002). — It is special…. and I wouldn’t trade it.. even WITH all of the struggles.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:20 am
Lamarcus, You have to be loyal to your team, you would of never made it as a Cubs fan. If it’s the fans(which I know can be trying) keep off the boards. But you can never give up on the ghost of Bucco Bruce, you will have nightmares of walking a plank for the rest of your days.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:22 am
Cause some people on this site cannot see joe I mean obsessive joe. Not logical joe
And we know you haven’t given up on him. Trust us. You remind us everyday of your man crush and the excuses get better and better
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:22 am
Yeah Demon, I think we all sold our soul for that SB win, and now we a paying. What’s the difference between a Panthers/Falcons fan and a bathtub? A bathtub has a ring!
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:26 am
Bird, you said you were giving all of us a break soon.
When does that begin? 😉
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:27 am
Benching Winston is a mistake man i’m telling you. Its going to come back and bite us in the A$$. The guy can correct his interceptions with the right coaching. Dirk has got to play him again otherwise Dirk is TOAST.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:35 am
Same players…same coaches…same offense
Fitz is 4-3…21 TDs…only 8 turnovers
Winston is 4-12 with 27 TDs…and 27 turnovers
Fitz has played less half as many games and has nearly the same amount of TDs…His TD/TO ratio is nearly 3 to 1….Winston is 1 to 1. No team can win with a QB that is that big of a liability. The old Bucs defense would have ripped Winston a$$ for turning the ball over so much.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:37 am
This coaching staff is getting bad Karma for firing Lovie.
Shannon Sharpe :. ” This serves them well”.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:45 am
Lovie is a good man, Lamarcus, but he has become an awful head coach.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:56 am
Joe Blahak Says:
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:26 am
He telegraphs his throws, risks the tight window throw, throws high sailing balls, can’t hit anyone in stride, lacks rush awareness, slow with decisions, careless ball handling…and has been given second and third chances on off the field crap.
Other than that he’s great.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:57 am
Tampa Demon
It’s how they did it to Lovie. Now Karma has come for this.payback
It’s more to the teams problems than JW. We have a historical worse d,kicker, below average run game. No kick returner. So the losing will continue
November 2nd, 2018 at 12:00 pm
Yes DJax is the problem he caused everyone in the lockerroom to dislike Jamies
OR Was it Jamies caused his own problems
STOP WITH THE EXCUSES
WE ALL SAWWINSTONS PLAY LAST WEEK
November 2nd, 2018 at 12:02 pm
gbobucsfan Says:
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:18 am
Inactive, wow. The ol’ RGIII treatment.
RGIII. There’s another guy with Jameis Syndrome. You know, a guy who’s coached what to do… and then does whatever he wants. You don’t think RGIII was coached to NOT take on tacklers… to get down or out of bounds? And he was a guy with arguably greater talent than Winston. And what’s he up to these days? All because, like Winston, he doesn’t listen.
November 2nd, 2018 at 12:06 pm
Lovie is nothing more than a totally competent average position coach and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that….he simply was promoted to HC a position and this was beyond his abilities…nothing wrong with that either…he should recognize this in himself and stop taking HC positions
November 2nd, 2018 at 12:10 pm
Dewey Selmon Says:
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:43 am
I was wrong on Vinny also.
My wife always felt so bad for Vinny… back at the dawn of Sports Talk Radio.
… and after all, he did have color blindness.
November 2nd, 2018 at 12:14 pm
DB55 Says:
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:43 am
Dude had 1 really bad game like many many many other QBs in the league.
6 TDs, 10 INTs, 4 Fumbles in only 13 quarters of play.
November 2nd, 2018 at 12:14 pm
As this disaster has unfolded we’ve looked for scapegoats…JW…Licht for picking him…Koetter because he’s the head coach…Bajakian because he’s the QB coach…somehow Monken has gotten a pass.
I think we all bear responsibility…not for the disaster but for our reaction and expectations.
There is a 50-50 chance JW was going to be a failure…statistically at least…and yet BOTH top choices seem to be on the wrong side of the 50-50….MM is no better..in fact not as good as JW.
And so with a 50-50 chance of failure we not only assumed we’d be fine and believed we are on the right side of that 50-50…we “anointed” JW everything from “America’s QB” to a guy who would get us to the SB in 3 years. IE Not that he would simply beat those 50-50 odd but he would be HOF. I wish I could get some of that hootch we had back then.
Carter is spot on and he was man enough to simply say I was wrong.
We might have been wrong but we are fans!!! We HOPED JW was the answer. Happens ALL the time.
Look at the position. It’s different now as Brett Favre taught me and others who hadn’t thought about it. Today’s QB’s are polished by the time they start in College…Jameis…and all the other young prospects get NFL quality coaching beginning in the high school camps.
This has led to a reevaluation of how to get the job done. Most still perhaps believe in the tried and true method of drafting a stud and developing him. Now it’s more draft a kid with potential and hope he blossoms immediately and then you have 3-4 years of building a TEAM while the QB is in his rookie contract. Once thats over the QB is going to suck up a lot of salary cap and that’s just hard to overcome.
D.R. likes to come on here and remind us football is a TEAM sport. Amen. If you invested a huge chunk of cap into one position that creates other challenges.
So Chucky has decided to go the Browns route…pile up draft picks and get enough talent…at QB and everywhere…to be a championship team for a couple of years.
So we’re about to find out if Amari Cooper and Khalil Mack were better than the draft picks which historically will fail 50% of the time. At least Chucky has loaded multiple picks like Bobby Beathard so he should at least get some talent…will it be enough?
November 2nd, 2018 at 12:23 pm
Well, if dumbasses are going to throw millions of dollars in his face to be a head coach, and Lovie turns them down, who is the real dumbass?
Agree with you that Lovie being a head coach is way over his head. 🙂
November 2nd, 2018 at 12:35 pm
Joe droppin hints here. JW3 Inactive?
You heard it here first:
Expect RG4 to get a start this season. Fitz is the present, Ryan Griffin is the future.
November 2nd, 2018 at 12:37 pm
Buccaneer’s 3rd-String QB, former Pro Bowler, Jameis Winston.
There, Joes, the moniker is more accurate now.
November 2nd, 2018 at 1:02 pm
I would really love to know how all of these HOF Qbs feel about being compared to Winston.
November 2nd, 2018 at 1:03 pm
Well, if nothing else, Bradshaw could completely relate, with his early career. The situation was very similar.
November 2nd, 2018 at 1:07 pm
Fact: coaches see a lot more than fans do.
Coaches watch film cut-ups, know what play was called and know how the QB responded to the play. Player do, too. Fans do not.
The body language of the players last game just screamed at me: he’s lost his team.
I don’t understand why Winston apologists don’t see that, too.
People talk about Winston’s future, a new contract, etc. But what no one seems to realize is Winston’s poor performance affects the future of every player and coach on that team, putting their career in possible limbo.
On one team I played on in the 70’s we had a guy named Jubilee Dunbar. This guy had an incredible world-class speed, easily in the 4.25 range. There was no DB that could begin to keep up with him. But no matter how he was coached up, no matter how many reps he got, no matter how many passes were thrown to him in practice, no matter how few patterns the coaches called for him…he just could not run patterns or catch a football.
Jubille’s final straw was a game day fly pattern where he got 10 yds. behind the closest DB, streaking downfield…and the perfect throw way downfield from Bob Davis hit Jubilee in the back of the helmet. He never even turned his head around. 3 years of HS ball, 4 years in college and 3 pro…and he doesn’t even look for the ball.
The fact a player can’t be coached up is not necessarily the fault of the coach.
I don’t blame Koetter, Monken or Bajakian for Winston’s poor play. Seems the entire offense is cooking at a record pace…except for Winston’s boneheaded play.
At some point you have to blame the player.
November 2nd, 2018 at 1:19 pm
JOE SAYS –
Man, it seems as if the only friends America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, has in the football world are on this here website.
And that’s about a 80-20 split right now.
November 2nd, 2018 at 1:24 pm
If you’re still holding onto hope with Jameis, you’re a complete idiot.
November 2nd, 2018 at 1:36 pm
Don’t worry Jameis…… you still have 5 or 6 diehard supporters.
I mean these guys would do ANYTHING for you.
………and like you said…… God is good.
That’s why he’s been taking such good care of you.
You are blessed.
November 2nd, 2018 at 1:41 pm
What would be worse…..Cutting Winston and be wrong or keep him next year and be wrong?
November 2nd, 2018 at 2:02 pm
Lovie is sucking big time right now at U of Illinois…..just let his defensive coordinator go…..he will now run the defense himself……Also has a nice fat buyout figure in his contract that the media and fans are starting to talk about…..Does any of this sound eerily familiar? The Athletic Director who hired him is probably feeling a little nervous right now!
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November 2nd, 2018 at 2:45 pm
Lamarcus Says:
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:37 am
This coaching staff is getting bad Karma for firing Lovie.
Shannon Sharpe :. ” This serves them well”.
100% agree….what goes around, comes around…..grass aint always greener…
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
November 2nd, 2018 at 2:55 pm
Jameis Winston will probably pull a Tiger Woods. A few years from now Winston will be basking in the glow like Woods is doing NOW and he’ll be thanking the Tampa fans for running him out of town and to his new team. Bank on it because the force is strong with the Winston Derangement Syndrome simpletons.
November 2nd, 2018 at 2:57 pm
Agree with you that Lovie being a head coach is way over his head
Lol…that’s BS….
didn’t lovie take an NFL team to the SB with a lousy QB who threw a ton of picks?……
dirk and smitty never came close to sniffing the SB…..lol…..
dirk is still making coaching 101 mistakes with the clock…lol…talking about a HC being in over his head…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
November 2nd, 2018 at 3:03 pm
bucsace
lol….who ever won anything at Illinois?…lol….who was the last coach that won 10games at illinios?…..they were never a powerhouse……they were never relevant….lovie didn’t make things worse up there….its Illinios….lol….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
November 2nd, 2018 at 3:37 pm
Joe
Koetter is way over his head. Lovie has miles on him and that there is a shame. Koetter has done nothing but give the stick carriers a name/movement.
November 2nd, 2018 at 4:16 pm
Cobra
Interesting observation and I think we’ve all seen players like Jubilee…and perhaps we are seeing another in JW.
November 2nd, 2018 at 6:53 pm
Notice that Jameis is still being talked about. He’s the most popular player in football to talk about. Center of attention! America’s QB Famous Jameis Winston!
November 2nd, 2018 at 8:13 pm
Yep and they was worng about Andrew Luck, they was worng about Tony Romo, they was worng about Jay Cutler they was worng about a lot of guys they worng about Elie Mannon he just lived off his brother and those years he had a defense and running game and the national media with there excuse on why he suck and Alice Smith in 4 years in the NFL.
November 2nd, 2018 at 8:49 pm
That’s right! Fitz ain’t it! Number 3 is number 1!
Fitz Magic will soon be Bench Patrick.
November 2nd, 2018 at 8:50 pm
Screw Chris Carter Squidward looking A$$!
November 2nd, 2018 at 9:28 pm
Well duh, Winston is and has always been ignorant.
November 2nd, 2018 at 9:42 pm
Pittsshore, he did get into Stanford and he scored a 27 on the Wonderlic, which puts him at an estimated IQ of about 110. That’s about 12-18 IQ points higher than the average Trump rally-goer. Not Albert Einstein, but certainly can’t be considered ignorant.
November 2nd, 2018 at 10:17 pm
Dalvin: a drunk monkey can get into FSU. Don’t believe the test results, as I am sure they were rigged.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:28 pm
Joe Blahak and Cobraboy are spot on, as usual. I never rooted for Jay-Miss to fail, but here we are and I’m glad we all have the answer on Jay-Miss now. Better to deal with a QB situation now than him getting an undeserved $100+ million dollar contract.
November 2nd, 2018 at 11:50 pm
So I guess the Winston/Mariota debate is over. =(
November 3rd, 2018 at 1:13 am
Bucs organization start trading players for extra picks in the 20 draft
We get tua and we are team again
I am okay to suck short term for 15 years of playoffs
November 3rd, 2018 at 7:37 am
@James Walker
The Winston/Mariota debate was over before it started.
Mariota is garbage. I would take Jameis over MM any day of the week.
November 3rd, 2018 at 11:52 pm
That Winston/Mariota comment shows the lack of football intelligence of most of you commentors.
Your not Buc fans, you have absolutely no football intellegence. Don’t you have anything elst to do???
You can’t be as stupid in other areas as you are with football. Go back to playing your video games!!!!