“Hooked Like A Grouper”
November 9th, 2018
“I’ll teach you, Carl.”
Former Bucs guard Ian Beckles (1990-1996) says all current Bucs defensive ends not named Jason Pierre-Paul “suck,” and he directed some of his X’s and O’s ire toward newcomer Carl Nassib.
On his In The Trenches podcast this week, Beckles, who truly loves the Buccaneers, was horrified by what he saw on defense against Carolina — from coaching to defensive ends.
“The part that was probably most glaring, we were grossly outcoached [against Carolina],” Beckles said. “We were grossly outcoached. I don’t say that that much. I really don’t.
“But the Carolina Panthers watched our film. They saw our tendencies. They saw where we’re weak. And they attacked it over and over and over and over. And we couldn’t do nothing about it.
“If you could see what was going on on the outskirts of the defense. Our defensive ends suck, ok. [Carl] Nassib, he had a couple of plays in the middle of the game, the rest of the time [he was] hooked like a grouper. He gets hooked all the time. They were running those pitches and those reverses because our ends don’t contain. A defensive end is supposed to go upfield and bring everything inside. There’s no reason they should be getting the outskirts like that. And they kept on running the same funky, Pop-Warner, double-reverse and we couldn’t do nothing about it. They didn’t even throw a pass of of it.”
There’s a half-season to go and the Bucs need a W in an hurry — for a variety of reasons.
Joe’s just not sure how you fix the worst defense in football, a limping running game and a messy quarterback situation in a hurry, along with effort issues and fumigating the lingering stench of a player who asked to be traded.
More Derrick Brooks talking Bucs is always a good thing, especially when he’s doing it with Ira Kaufman, esteemed JoeBucsFan.com columnist.
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November 9th, 2018 at 10:36 am
BLITZ or die trying…the only solution. They can’t cover anyway and there’s no rush. So, present a rush at least with extra bodies. Zone blitz.
November 9th, 2018 at 10:39 am
I’m sure glad he rose up for the Cleveland game.
November 9th, 2018 at 10:55 am
Outside containment was a HUGE problem in the Carolina game. So many big plays resulted from this inability. Beckles is absolutely right, as he most often is about our Bucs.
November 9th, 2018 at 11:09 am
Its funny how the local media and sheep said the defense was so much better for firing Coach Smitty!!!!!!! then 2 games of tape was out and the defense was worst!!!!!!!!!! First he was a genius for “simplifying” and now its too simply and got out coached!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can’t wait to see what kind of new coaches they will find to fail with marching orders to “fix Jw3” and to build another defense around gmc to get him help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 9th, 2018 at 11:25 am
Hopefully our new DC will have adapted to those shortcomings for the Redskin game. The other problem was very poor tackling. So I also hope we went through tackling drills this week for the defense. Monken also needs to be overseeing Warhop and insisting that Benenoch not be used until Liedtke and Cappa have been tried at RT this coming game, and stop just rubber stamping Warhop’s justifications for developing Benenoch by just throwing him to the wolves in real games and endangering our QBs!
November 9th, 2018 at 11:32 am
@Realist.
Smitty failed. He deserved to be fired. The D has more hope with him gone still. Hell we might have more hope without any coaches.
Entire staff needs to go including GM. 5 years of rebuild should not = worst defense in the league still.
November 9th, 2018 at 12:39 pm
How the hell do these guy NOT know how to do handle basic DE responsibilities. Just ridiculous.
November 9th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
we are so bad on defense that even a soccer fan can understand that; what I’m saying is we don’t need this bigot/buffon Ian Beckles, to tell us what a blind can see, and from the other side justifying JW on every thing – in and out the field.
November 9th, 2018 at 12:47 pm
@Realist, you’re hilarious. So you think Smith should have kept his job? You just can’t except being wrong on that one huh.
November 9th, 2018 at 12:49 pm
Lord C … I agree that Smitty failed, but I’ll probably contend forever that it was more because management provided him with inadequate resources to get the job done than because he was simply a ‘bad coach’. I watch this Bucs team play on Sundays and more times than not it reminds me of the Keystone Cops. Watching some great defenses, you see a well-oiled machine that simply ‘gits it done’. This Bucs team, for some reason, is exactly the opposite … they continually amaze me in finding new & innovative ways to AVOID succeeding. Sometimes it’s penalties at critical moments. Sometimes it’s missed tackles … one after another. Sometimes it’s just play old undisciplined play. The list goes on and on.
November 9th, 2018 at 12:58 pm
@Defense Rules and all of that falls on the coaching. It happened under his watch.
November 9th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
It’s a combination of bum players and a bum coaching staff
November 9th, 2018 at 1:07 pm
@DR
For sure. There are a lot of variables involved. The only consistency I can point to is Gerald McCoy and sh1tty GMs on top of bad coaches that could not develop any of those draft picks.
IMO we need new minds and innovation at both offense/defense. I know Koetter’s offense gets chunk yardage but it has never matched those yards with points.
I actually have kind of always agreed with Kobe Faker on that lol.. .in that Koetter’s offensive scheme is a high difficulty scheme for the QB that doesn’t do well in the red zone and doesn’t scheme effective rushing attacks at all.
The Rams/Chiefs/Patriots/Saints all light up the scoreboards using quick passing offenses similar to college spread systems that set up players for YAC opportunity. They take their deep shots as well but they don’t build their offense around it like Koetter has. They get the ball out fast most plays.
And on defense I agree with Realist; in that I think it’d be a good idea to build a 3-4 defense for a point of difference within the division. 3-4 defenses seem easier to build in general because there are typically more OLB pass rusher types than the JPPs of the world that are 280+ lbs and can still rush the passer.
November 9th, 2018 at 1:33 pm
Realist, Lord C, Defense- ALL great points. What do all those points aim to? Complete and total rebuild of the entire organization. Since we can’t fire the owners, we need an innovative GM with some cojones, a HC that ain’t scared to coach and the team will respect, and a DC that will have the players eating nails and breathing fire. Find FOOTBALL PLAYERS, not one-trick ponies that we HOPE turn into football players.
I watch other teams play football like it’s on a different atmosphere than ours. This should not be. It’s time we turn this around once and for all. Hire the right people and give them the resources to get the job done and we can turn into a respectable football town for once.
November 9th, 2018 at 1:36 pm
We can fire 1000 coaches but the talent is not there
Everyone is always let’s fire the coach
I’m not saying we have billicheck but like I said our gm has failed us
November 9th, 2018 at 1:38 pm
The fishing is starting to heat up Joe, I think it’s time to start introducing some fishing reports rather than arcticles about an underachieving garbage heap of a football team. #itsabucslife #brownpaperbag
November 9th, 2018 at 2:00 pm
Sharkie- How’s the redfish bite? I’m headed out to Pinellas Point. LOL!
November 9th, 2018 at 2:41 pm
Thanks for sharing Joe
November 9th, 2018 at 2:48 pm
Lord C, Lakeland, Bucsfanman, DestinJohnny … It’s definitely sounding like most Bucs fans have got this team figured out at this point. Every year it’s the same BS as we continue our reign at the bottom of the NFC South. While New Orleans, Carolina & Atlanta have built formidable franchises that can compete with anyone in the NFL, the Bucs just continue to struggle year-in & year-out.
I keep asking myself ‘What’s the common thread among this consistent turmoil?” I look at the hundreds of players who’ve passed through Bucsville in the past 10 years and think perhaps that’s why we’re so bad. No question in my mind that our overall talent level isn’t on a par, across the board, with our NFC South competition, but why? I look at 4 HCs and coaching staffs in those 10 years & think maybe that’s the cause. Nah, it certainly contributed IMO but consistent coaching turnover is more a symptom than a cause.
Hmmm, maybe it’s the GMs. Bucs have only had 2 GMs in the past 10 years, and neither of them was in line for ‘NFL Executive of the Year Award’. Actually, when you look at RESULTS, BOTH of them performed pretty poorly.
But I personally think the REAL CAUSE of all this suckiness is the Glazers themselves. Management by Committee is no management at all IMO. They’re the only REAL consistent thread in this whole ‘As the Stomach Turns’ melodrama we affectionately call ‘Our Bucs’. They’re the ones who are ultimately responsible for hiring the Dominics & Lichts. And apparently they’re also the ‘brains’ (?) behind hiring Raheem & Schiano & Lovie & yes, Dirk. They’re the boyz playing with ‘The LEGO-House That Daddy Left Them’. And they’re the ones who took it apart … and can’t figure out how to reconstruct it. Time to bring in a President of Football Operations to show them how to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
November 9th, 2018 at 3:35 pm
Defense Rules Says: Watching some great defenses, you see a well-oiled machine that simply ‘gits it done’.
Like the Steelers did last night to Carolina. I see one play they lined up in a 3-4 the next a 4-3 and they were getting after it, Impressive. Last Sunday it looked like the Panthers were toying with us in the second half.
November 9th, 2018 at 4:53 pm
Coaching staff is a train wreck short of a few. Monken is better at running an offense than Koetter. Dirk still won’t let him do it. Sure would be nice if we could talk about positive things like we did the first two weeks of the season. But this crappy organization has sucked the life out of everyone. All conversations now are negative, arguments about what’s the biggest problem, who sucks more. It’s a team with no backbone and a serious vacuum in the leadership department.
November 9th, 2018 at 7:39 pm
Weak Ian Beckles running his mouth. He was less than a journeyman. Didn’t Sapp whip his butt once for yapping?
November 9th, 2018 at 11:56 pm
Ian Beckles would know. Hes been a SCRUB his whole career