Bucs Boot Kicker Chandler Catanzaro
November 12th, 2018
Kyle Brindza, Connor Barth, Patrick Murray, Nick Folk, Roberto Aguayo, Chandler Catanzaro, these are the former Bucs kickers who give Jason Licht and Bucs fans nightmares.
Yes, Catanzaro is now a former Buccaneer, per Jenna Laine of ESPN.
He had jumped into Aguayo territory after missing two field goals yesterday, 30 and 48 yards, in perfect kicking conditions against the Redskins. Catanzaro made just 11-of-15 kicks this season, and missed four extra points.
Dude was a one-man wrecking crew of Bucs fans’ dreams. And he thieved a few million of Team Glazer loot. Not bad for nine games work and a rough preseason, too.
We now await kicker No. 7 of the Licht regime.
November 12th, 2018 at 2:37 pm
was he worse than nick folk?
November 12th, 2018 at 2:37 pm
LOL! Atlanta will pick him up and keep him for the next 12 years as he will become an elite kicker. (with real coaching now)
November 12th, 2018 at 2:38 pm
murray seems pretty good, he just doesn’t have a big leg…
i liked barth
November 12th, 2018 at 2:39 pm
Next up is Koetter. Then Licht close behind.
November 12th, 2018 at 2:39 pm
The Bucs know how to slay kickers. Next victim…..
November 12th, 2018 at 2:39 pm
Maybe we can give up a 3rd for Matt Bryant…
November 12th, 2018 at 2:40 pm
Boot the kicker and keep the coach. There has to be some issue with coaching if for 4 years they have the same kicking issues.
November 12th, 2018 at 2:40 pm
wow he got paid almost 4 mil guaranteed for half a season of nonsense
November 12th, 2018 at 2:41 pm
should have gave up on him before the year started
November 12th, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Another one of Licht’s great FA acquisitions.
November 12th, 2018 at 2:42 pm
yo he’s not cut – as per dirk at presser – so crazy – this soap opera offers continuity
November 12th, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Koetter just said in the press conference they are starting Fitz again. This guy has got to go like right this second. Why does he still have a job.
November 12th, 2018 at 2:43 pm
dirk just said he is not cut – jenna done fugged up
November 12th, 2018 at 2:45 pm
Lol licht is an idiot he may be worse then dominic. He had 2 perfectly competent kickers on his teams in barth and Murray and released both of them because of kickoffs which they more then make up for with you know? Making their kicks then this numbnut pics up directionally challenged ones but at least they can kick it out the endzone. What a dumba$$.
November 12th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
He will be filing a Workman Comp claim….he walked into the door jam leaving OBP…
November 12th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
I wondered openly about guaranteeing this guy $3.75M from the getgo…
I’m a Licht supporter – but this particular move along with not cutting Gholston and his $6.5M salary after watching tape of last year’s $7M heist from the same non-productive player – those were the two serious head scratchers for me this last off season.
That $10M could have bought us a pretty darn good veteran CB or top notch Guard this year…
November 12th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
We should cut both Chandler Catanzaro and Jenna Laine.
November 12th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
There was a guy on here back at the beginning of the Aguayo mess who said it was Anger. He said the team Anger was on before us had a lot of kicker problems. When they get rid of him, the problems stopped. Surely, someone is going over the tape, checking things in slow-mo to make sure. They were training Tandy to hold in training camp, which seemed odd at the time.
I have no idea myself. I’ve mis-kicked a lot of soccer balls, but know nothing about place-kicking myself. If I were a journalist at a press conference, I might ask. “Is it possible there’s a problem with the holding instead of the kicking?” Joe?
November 12th, 2018 at 2:53 pm
Let’s grab aguayo again. Maybe he does better the second go around. Lmao.
November 12th, 2018 at 2:54 pm
Cairo Santos come on down!
November 12th, 2018 at 2:56 pm
I would like to volunteer to be the next kicker, you can even pay me half of what Cat-man was making.
November 12th, 2018 at 2:58 pm
Ive supported Licht for quite some time even through all the terrible free agent signings and mediocre draft classes. But im totally done with this guy.
Sure coaching is not great but the Bucs #1 issue is the general manager and his lack of ability to put a TEAM of NFL talent on a football field and compete with other real teams with real GMs. This guy just screws up way too much, one of the worst GMs in the national football league and we have PLENTY of evidence for that.
November 12th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
Seems there is no one left to fire but Koetter.
November 12th, 2018 at 3:02 pm
Well, who’s next, did they have tryouts today? or is it going to happen tomorrow???
November 12th, 2018 at 3:05 pm
Fake News
November 12th, 2018 at 3:09 pm
As per dirk they have not cut him yet. What a joke
November 12th, 2018 at 3:19 pm
7 kickers???hahahahaha. what a joke
November 12th, 2018 at 3:20 pm
Pickgrin, you’ve got me curious. WHY are you a Licht supporter? He’s pulled the same stunts since he was hired … by Lovie? … in 2014. Folks keep saying he’s good at drafting. Horsepuckey … Licht is terrible at drafting. I don’t even count 1st round picks, especially when a team drafts as high as the Bucs do year after year. I mean if you miss there as a GM, you deserve to be fired on the spot. It’s Rnds 2-4 that represent the ‘proof of the pudding’ as they say. Jason’s had 16 picks in rounds 2-4 starting in 2014.
The 2014 picks are all gone now. The 2015 picks (Donovan, Ali & Kwon) will probably all be re-signed. The 2016 picks (Spence, Aquayo, Ryan Smith) probably won’t be re-signed. The 2017 picks (Justin Evans, Godwin & Beckwith) are keepers IMO, but out of the 5 draftees in those rnds in 2018, my hunch is that only two (Davis & Whitehead) will be kept long-term. That means that Licht is batting right at .500 for Rnds 2-4 if that happens. And I’d guess that 2 (maybe 3) of his 1st rnd picks might not earn 2nd contracts. For a team that’s supposed to be ‘building through the draft’, that’d be 10-11 potential keepers from the 5 most recent drafts. Obviously it’s not good enough looking at our W-L record. And all that’s BEFORE we start talking his FA acquisition history.
November 12th, 2018 at 3:25 pm
If he hasn’t been cut I’d say he will be this week. Licht and Koetter are going to get the boot while only adding more dumba$$ decisions to their resumes’. Hopefully we get a GM that puts good players on the field and trade or pick up in FA a proven kicker in his prime. THIS BS HAS TO STOP!!!
November 12th, 2018 at 3:25 pm
According to Roto, he has been waived.
My guess is Cairo Santos is in the on-deck circle. The question is: how well is his groin?
November 12th, 2018 at 3:25 pm
this is becoming funnier than richard pryor….lol…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
November 12th, 2018 at 3:27 pm
@Cobraboy
He could be amputated from the waste down and be better than this guy so…
November 12th, 2018 at 3:27 pm
They should have stuck with Patrick Murray. He wasn’t great, but at least we didn’t have to hold our breath on every kick.
November 12th, 2018 at 3:28 pm
My vote is to let Jameis kick, a second round pick didn’t work out at kicker, but maybe our former#1 pick can finally fix our awful kicking problem.
November 12th, 2018 at 3:50 pm
They could have kept Catanzaro for kick offs and signed Patrick Murray (or someone else) for fields goals and extra points. Instead, you are paying players not to play, coaches not to coach, and kickers not to kick. And, possibly, we might see a GM being paid not to well…GM. Didn’t Licht just get an extension? Around here, an extension is the kiss of death! #PaidFloridaVacation
November 12th, 2018 at 3:52 pm
So agree with a earlier post. Murray and Barth were totally solid, competent PK’s. But OMG their kickoffs arent that deep OMG…. GTFOH.. they could make 90% of their kicks inside of 50 yards and be average or above outside of 50.. thats NFL quality.
Licht keeps going after strong legged stiffs with mush for confidence and this is what he got. I like Licht but the inability to find a solid kicker and secondary help along with a D lineman will be his downfall.
November 12th, 2018 at 4:13 pm
Waive Jason Licht
November 12th, 2018 at 4:17 pm
DR – your idea of what’s what regarding drafting is and always has been skewed.
Starting with – “I don’t even count 1st round picks, especially when a team drafts as high as the Bucs do year after year. I mean if you miss there as a GM, you deserve to be fired on the spot.”
First round draft picks – on average – turn into “busts” just under 50% of the time.
2nd rd picks bust at closer to 55%.
3rd rd picks have around a 60% chance of not working out
4th rd picks – close to 70% are “busts”.
Discounting this year’s picks as there’s really no way to know how good any of them will be 2 years from now just half way through their collective rookie years – Licht seems to be ahead of the curve overall in the 1st 4 rounds of 2014,15,16 and 2017 drafts
1st Rd – (Evans, Winston, Hargreaves, Howard) 0-50% Busts depending on how Hargreaves and Winston end up panning out.
2nd Rd – (ASJ, Smith, Marpet, Spence, Aguayo, J. Evans) 50% busts as it appears now. Smith, Marpet and Evans are all decent or better starters.
3rd Rd – (Sims, Godwin, Beckwith) 33% bust – Godwin and Beckwith were both great picks
4th Rd – (Kwon, Ryan Smith) 0% bust. Kwon was an awesome 4th rd pick and Smith is a legitimate Special Teams ace with increasingly serviceable defensive skills…
So out of 15 1st through 4th rd picks in his first 4 years as GM – Licht has wound up with 11 decent, good or very good players. (assuming one would count Winston and Hargreaves at least in the “decent” category)
That’s obviously well under a 50% bust rate collectively in rds 1>4 no matter how you slice it and regardless of how Wisnton and Hargreaves pan out in the end.
Like I said – ahead of the curve….
Licht walked into a situation of Dom having blown high pick after high pick for 5 years straight – so Jason was literally starting with like 4 or 5 good players on this team when he got here – one of whom (Revis) was earning twice as much as he should have been and could obviously not be retained.
Jason Licht certainly has not been perfect in his decision making for this team – and he has more misses than hits in FA – but his drafting taken as a whole is definitely better than the average NFL GM. To deny that is not dealing in reality.
November 12th, 2018 at 4:24 pm
Where’s George Yarno (R.I.P.) when you need a clutch straight on kicker?
November 12th, 2018 at 4:49 pm
@Joe
If the Bucs “booted” Catanazaro today did he sail wide right like normal or perhaps wide left…nah probably just came up short.
November 12th, 2018 at 4:53 pm
There was nothing wrong with Patrick Murray. Dirk Koetter is a complete idiot as a head coach. Everything he has done is wrong and he continues to sabatoge Jameis Winston
November 12th, 2018 at 4:59 pm
@Pickgrin … “First round draft picks – on average – turn into “busts” just under 50% of the time. 2nd rd picks bust at closer to 55%.”
I assume when you use the word ‘busts’ that means they don’t earn a 2nd contract with the team that drafted them. The chart that I saw listed that at 71% of 1st rnd picks still around year 5 not ‘just under 50%’. Of the 2nd rnd picks, 74% make it through year 4, but only 42% through year 5. The 3rd & 4th rnd numbers agree with yours after year 4, but that number falls off to 18% after year 5.
I appreciate what you’re saying about Licht drafting “11 decent, good or very good players” in his first 4 drafts. How many of those are starting right now, and how are those 11 doing overall? And even more significantly IMO, how many of them are ‘trench guys’? Donovan & Ali, that’s it in those first 4 drafts; add Vea in this last one. Sorry, but that’s not how to build a competitive team.
November 12th, 2018 at 5:02 pm
@Pickgrin
I’m guessing you made up those numbers based on your opinion instead of doing research. If I am wrong, please link to source.
November 12th, 2018 at 5:03 pm
Haha, maybe Jenna knows something Dirka Dirka doesn’t.
November 12th, 2018 at 5:17 pm
The 2 misses by Catanzarro really demoralized the team.
November 12th, 2018 at 5:22 pm
@Pickgrin are you serious. I want to pull my hair out! Licht failed miserably attempting to revamp the defensive line. He kept McCoy (thinking that he was Sapp like) and surrounded him with veterans who had super bowl experience. Problem is he kept the defensive coordinator who was a proven failure at getting the best out of his players. He missed on Vea (a project), he missed on Jones despite the whole draft world suggesting Guice or Michel. Not to mention the excellent backs he passed on the year before.He refused to sign a decent free agent dB like Butler. He cut veteran players who actually contributed like Tandy (2016) and Macdougal. So what he drafted really good skilled players but didn’t address the run game (haha Peyton Barber) and the bottom line his so called collection of talent has produced one (barely) winning season in 5 years. Come on I’m sick of these overpaid under performing GMs. Just look at what Dungy and McKay did over a 10 year period compared to to this crap.
November 12th, 2018 at 5:27 pm
is koetter officially a lame duck coach???
did he out himself at the presser today by not even knowing catanzaro had been cut???
did they not even bother to tell him since he is “lame duck dirk” ?
November 12th, 2018 at 5:29 pm
Have you seriously compared the Saints’ picks to this teams’? It’s an absolute joke! Ryan Smith? Are you serious? Donovan Smith? Are you watching film on this guy? Absolute loafer. What about Hargreaves that they drafted high as a cover corner and had to move to nickel. Kwon is a project as well and is undisciplined and injury prone. I agree about Evans, Howard (no brained) and Godwin ( his best pick ever considering where he was taken).
November 12th, 2018 at 5:37 pm
Just for the record and I could easily be mistaken…I’ve never heard anybody with the Bucs compare GMC to Sapp. Not Licht not Koetter and I’ve never read Joe doing it either.
Now during his rookie season…when he was drafted…I do not remember what kind of propaganda was floated…when a pick goes that high so do expectations…mostly unrealistically. I read in more than one place that JW would have us in the SB by his 4th year…how about the playoffs…how about just starting.
Virtually EVERY comparison of GMC to Sapp comes from a GMC hater. NOBODY thinks GMC has ever been a Sapp…in fact I don’t even know guys touting him for the HOF.
Why must so many keep flogging that dead horse. GMC is NOT…HAS NEVER BEEN…nor will ever be Warren Sapp. It’s not in the common thought at all and I don’t know why it keeps getting brought up….other than the haters think it somehow diminishes GMC. Sapp could perhaps be the GOAT at DT…the ONLY current player I can think of who MIGHT deserve to be mentioned in a sentence with Sapp is Aaron Donald. And I’m not even a Sapp fan…do not like the man but certainly have eyes and can respect his obvious ability on the field. It’s no shame for GMC that he is not Sapp.
November 12th, 2018 at 5:43 pm
@TonyC: I’d consider Brate and Humphries even better picks than Godwin. Barber looks like a solid “pick”, too
November 12th, 2018 at 5:44 pm
Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:</b?
Not just demoralized the team, those misses changed the entire dynamics of the game!
November 12th, 2018 at 5:46 pm
even godwin is starting to hang his head – the losses are getting to him…and justin evans as well…
these guys are getting branded by losing culture…and that’s a very bad thing…
mccoy has long accepted his fate…as a league sissy…
i stand by the fact that on monday night football – week 3 – vs the steelers…that’s when the season ended – we got punked and punked ourselves against a classic league “tough team”…
– mccoy apologized to ben for touching him
– and vance mcdonald mushed and freight trained conte
-and at that point the bucs accepted their fate as league softies
end of season right there on national tv…
sapp single handedly changed the culture in 1997 when he ate 49ers for lunch with no remorse…ask dungy – he knows
believe that
November 12th, 2018 at 5:53 pm
the ineptitude in one of the simplest parts of the game is what must be the most painful to the owners, I know it is to me
two years ago is was infuriating
today it’s just another nail in the coffin
November 12th, 2018 at 6:09 pm
bucs resigned donald iguibuike 🙂
he said he will kick for the bucs so he can spend more time with his son
November 12th, 2018 at 6:47 pm
Omg. This is going to be another epic failure in Buc history and there have been some pretty big disasters. Stay tuned for more failure. Lol. Blame it all on the Kicker.
November 12th, 2018 at 6:55 pm
Another GREAT signing by Jason Gump….. stupid is as stupid does! Way to to go Jason!
November 12th, 2018 at 7:04 pm
The fact that the coach doesn’t know that his kicker has been cut should tell you everything you need to know about this organization.
November 12th, 2018 at 7:10 pm
@Adam from New York…. Never thought of it like that but it makes total sense. Ever since McCoy became Big Bens bitch I DO believe the nation and the rest of the NFL saw what a pansy Batman is and new we could easily be beaten.
November 12th, 2018 at 7:10 pm
Knew…. damn auto correct
November 12th, 2018 at 7:20 pm
Bucs signed Santos
November 12th, 2018 at 7:24 pm
Hey Jason maybe trade OJ for Matt Bryant. Hell why not throw in 1st while u are at it.
November 12th, 2018 at 7:36 pm
Another mis management by Licht , remains to be seen why you sign this guy when dan Bailey is on the wire. But alas more mismanagement by the Licht Koetter duo , the only thing I’m looking forward to is grimes packing his bags and Mr Licht relocating somewhere far far away from the Tampa franchise. What a nightmare blow it all up.
November 12th, 2018 at 7:52 pm
@bucsfan. It’s blowing up all on its own. By the end of the season there won’t be anything left. The Bucs are the NFL’s comedy show.
November 12th, 2018 at 7:55 pm
Roberto never missed a kick that mattered, and had a better rookie season than the 1st rounder Janikowski had – in fact Janikowski has had 3 season worse than Roberto’s first. But the Bucs listened to the online lynch mob and ran him out of town, and in turn he cursed the team with his south American voodoo. Thanks online lynch mob, you really hit another homerun!
Also said in the offseason that it will be kicker and defensive backs that get Licht fired. Giving this guy, who was cut by Arizona for being a headcase, a big deal with big guaranteed money, after one OK season in NY, was dumb. Then you leave FA with no new corners or safeties and just expect to be a-OK with Chris Conte and Ryan Smith as starters. How dumb do you have to be to keep putting the team in a position to start Chris Conte year after year after year when he’s literally the worst safety in football – and this year he completely tanked the season by getting ran over in that Steelers game.
November 12th, 2018 at 7:58 pm
Gee, I guess that decision not to pay Matt Bryant is still paying off (not).
November 12th, 2018 at 9:11 pm
I don’t think Licht has been terrible at drafting but we all know his FA pedigree is criminal. So, no need to go into detail about his FA pickups since I sincerely doubt you will find anybody on here to defend it. The drafts have been pretty decent but I cannot get the Aguayo pick out of my mind. I personally think there is always a kicker to be found that is a FA or undrafted. I don’t even believe in spending any pick on a kicker. This dude blew a 2nd rd pick on Aguayno. 2nd rd pick! This is a what have you done for me lately league and all Licht did in last year’s draft was pick a guy that has been overmatched in the trenches. All I heard was how big and strong this dude is but what actually happens in games is he’s tossed around like a 50lb ragdoll. How do you overthink the obvious pick at #12 overall for Derwin James? I would have been fine with Denzel Ward or Minak there as well. As a matter of fact, all 3 of those guys have looked impressive this year especially Derwin. You can’t miss that badly on a fairly high pick in the 1st round. That has to be an impact player and there wasn’t enough on Vea’s resume to warrant the pick. I’ve had enough of Licht. He already had the offense and he screwed the pooch during FA and the draft on defense. ROJO and MJ Stewart aren’t inspiring confidence. His best pick was probably Watson in the 5th rd. You know, a wide receiver, where we have the abundance of talent. It’s time to pull the plug on Licht as well as Dirk. I am hoping we go for a coach with experience like Schwartz, Arians, either Harbaugh. These guys know who they would want on their staffs too. Not much of the current staff would remain.
November 13th, 2018 at 1:32 am
With Nick Chubb falling out of the 1st, how do you NOT take him? How do you not trade up to take him IN THE 1st round??? I think Jason Licht has a username on these boards because I remember many of you telling me that RoJo > Nick Chubb, eventho my exact words were “very poor man’s Reggie Bush”. RoJo was worth a shot in the 6th-7th round. High 2nd round? Only if you know nothing about football, Mr. Licht.
November 13th, 2018 at 2:27 am
Did I see someone say that Justin Evans was a solid pick???
He will make a spectacular play here and there but he is a Sabby P clone
if a new coach or gm or both come in.
he will not make this team
November 13th, 2018 at 12:19 pm
nobody will read this……but…..Patrick Murry was a good kicker
November 14th, 2018 at 1:20 am
Joe
In this guy career he went 95% on xp, 75% from 40-49 and 50% from beyond 50. He hasn’t attempted a 50 yarder in 2 years but his career long is 53 fwiw