No Decision On Who Starts At QB At Carolina… Yet
October 28th, 2018The starting job for America’s Quarterback next week isn’t exactly set in stone.
Asked today in his postgame press conference who will be the Bucs’ starting quarterback after Jameis Winston got benched for pretending to be Andy Dalton with four garish interceptions in three quarters, Koetter said he doesn’t have to make a decision today.
“We don’t need to talk about it,” Koetter said. “I mean, today is not the day I have to decide that, right? We don’t have to talk about that today.
“I don’t have any problems making decisions and I will make it when the time is right. Now is probably not the right time to make it.”
Feel free to jump to your own conclusion as to what Koetter will do against the Panthers in Charlotte next week. But Joe will explain in the morning how Koetter is in no-man’s land.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:13 pm
pretty sure jason licht and dirk do not see eye to eye on personnel moves and see dirk starting fitz next week against owners orders and being fired on monday
October 28th, 2018 at 5:14 pm
Jameis deserves to be benched till further notice. This kind of game is completely unacceptable and Koetter should start packing his bags.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:14 pm
Carolina is going to destroy this garbage team.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:15 pm
The only thing that can save his job now is wins. Period. Jameis is irrelevant.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:15 pm
Here is no decision…Fitz all the way!!
October 28th, 2018 at 5:16 pm
Yes, it is one of life’s great enigmas. I know I am completely dumbfounded as to how this one plays out.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:16 pm
Please start #14, I wanna see 4 interceptions on 4 straight passes, that should be an NFL record right?!
October 28th, 2018 at 5:16 pm
Franchise QB’s don’t get benched when their team is sitting at .500 almost halfway through the season.
Not only that but the guy he benched him for went out and scored on 3 out of 4 drives and came back from an 18 point deficit in almost 1 quarter of football.
If Koetter starts Winston next week he might as wee start filling out job applications with Lovie Smith.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:17 pm
Shame Fitztragic couldn’t win the game when it mattered most, smh
October 28th, 2018 at 5:18 pm
They need to trade Winston, go with Fitz the rest of the year, and the first part of next year, until our rookie QB is ready to take over. #3 has had 3+ years and he’s still playing like a rookie.
Your past comparisons to Favre are laughable. Favre was a winner. Winston is a loser.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:19 pm
If my job was on the line I’d go with Fitz. who cares about next year if you are not there. The whole team rallies around him.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:20 pm
“After pretending to be Andy Dalton.” – oh yeah? If the Bucs were only so lucky, he played like Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton makes the playoffs. Andy Dalton doesn’t have near as many interceptions
October 28th, 2018 at 5:20 pm
If there is any thought at all that they don’t trust him enough to drop twenty mill next year, then they have to sit him rest of the year. That contract is guaranteed for inj only. RG3 situation. Bye Jameis. You just were not very good…
October 28th, 2018 at 5:22 pm
Agree, not the time to talk about it from a coaches standpoint, but the decision has already been made. You can take that to the bank!
October 28th, 2018 at 5:22 pm
My guess is Jamis will start again but hopefully be on a short leash
October 28th, 2018 at 5:22 pm
Silverbuc
Stop tossing that mans salad
October 28th, 2018 at 5:23 pm
Fitz until the wheels come off the. RG4…simple
October 28th, 2018 at 5:24 pm
my name says it all
October 28th, 2018 at 5:24 pm
Starting Jameis would be an insult to the fans. There is no doubt — right now — as to who gives the Bucs the best chance to win. Only an overrule from the Glazers should stop the decision; and if they do, they should step up to the mic and explain themselves.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:24 pm
@Gofortheface30,
Also, Andy Dalton is accurate. You don’t see AJ Green asking for a trade because of his QB. That tells you enough when your team demotes you from being team Captain and the fastest and baddest WR wants to run away to another team because you consistently deliver the ball accurately to the other team.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:25 pm
Winston is untradeable. Sorry folks. You won’t get a seventh round pick for him. You can’t value him based on what a fool thinks. He’s overpaid to be a back up and in the lower end of starters. Why would anyone trade for that?
October 28th, 2018 at 5:25 pm
Dusthy
I get your point…this is a business decision not a sports decision but if Koetter starts Fitz and he shows any more Fitzmagic and we upset Carolina….Koetter is not going anywhere the following Monday. The fans would riot!!!
October 28th, 2018 at 5:26 pm
October 28th, 2018 at 5:11 pm
If you’re an FSU fan you should be banned. All of you stupid morons. With your blinders on for 4 years of this bullsh#t.
Screw all of you. I can’t believe we had to argue with you idiots with things everyone knew except you nuthuggers.
Rod munch? Oh you gonna hide when your boy falls on his face?
Ndog? Don’t start backpedaling now.
All of you with your bias finally have to eat crow. Shut up no one wants to hear your excuses and bullsh#t anymore.
Get to steppin. Kick rocks.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:27 pm
I believe the Jay Miss era in Tampa is officially done. Nothing to see here. Move along please.
This team isn’t going to the playoffs. Start Fitz and start Griffin at some point as well. Let Jay Miss hold the clipboard.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:28 pm
Silverbuc
Still hasn’t swallowed his FSU pride and is grasping straws like a good little moron.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:29 pm
Riiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhtttttt…… I’m sure that decision hasn’t been made yet 🤔
October 28th, 2018 at 5:29 pm
This is gonna be a tricky decision for sure
On one hand the GM doesnt want to look like he picked the wrong guy with a 1st overall pick
On the other hand the coach doesnt want to lose his job – if he hasnt already
And lastly he may lose the locker room if he starts JW
Certainly the team doesnt trust him fully at this point
Its a pretty sad situation
October 28th, 2018 at 5:32 pm
It’s over!!! I just crashed the Winston Bandwagon that I had been driving for the past 5 years. Yes, since he was at FSU and the general was trotting out Mike Dynamite. There are many “reasons” why. The reality is that this has to end. At least on the bright side, we are used to having no QB!!! Easy transition for us fans!!!
October 28th, 2018 at 5:35 pm
Joe, you could call for the firing of Smith, but not the benching of Winston? At no point during this game could I honestly tell myself that we wouldn’t have a better chance without Winston in the game.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:35 pm
Why not give Griffin a shot. He’s been in the league 5 years, he’s 26, he makes good decisions. At least he isn’t a proven turn over machine like the other two.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:36 pm
Go Fitzmagic!!! Go get that 6 year contract extension you bearded wonderman!!
October 28th, 2018 at 5:36 pm
Only people who want Jay Miss to start are the FSU fans who refuse to let go of the National Championship Winston was a part of. Let’s get this straight: the NFL isn’t the ACC; it’s where the big boys play and Jay Miss doesn’t belong in the club. Sorry.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:37 pm
SiverBuc… Come clean with us. Are you JW’s dad?
Only a family member could defend JW after that game.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:39 pm
The suspension screwed with Jameis? Whos fault was that? Joe keep trying to protect this d-bag. He was a turnover machine in college and has been every year here. Hes not Americas QB and its an insult to America to say that. Joe is obsessed with him and people are finally seeing it. Cut the sex offender and alleged rapist and friend of proven rapist and turnover machine Winston.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:40 pm
Coming from a long time fan of Jameis Winston, today was the straw the broke the camel’s back. I just can’t defend him anymore. He single handedly lost us this game.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:41 pm
Ride and die with your QB Koetter Jameis will bounce back !
October 28th, 2018 at 5:42 pm
Brad,
Joe is dishonest when it comes to Winston. He hasn’t told the truth about Jay Miss since before the kid was drafted. All he cares about is playing the guy from FSU and deflecting blame from Jay Miss for his poor play.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:43 pm
Well Buccodave they did when Bret Farve done it they do when Andrew Luck do it so yes . Jamies played bad today I do agree. But for y’all to think that fizpatrick will lead this team to the playoffs is just crazy.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:47 pm
This is Fitz’ team now.
I will literally protest/picket outside of OBP if Jameis starts over Fitz again.
Who will join me???
October 28th, 2018 at 5:50 pm
Here’s the difference between JW3 and Fitz.
In Chicago, Fitz wasn’t doing anything productive and had an INT in one half. Gets benched at halftime and Winston can’t do anything in the second half. Both QBs still had Mike Smith for defense and the defense was giving up TDs every drive it seemed. Winston wasn’t an upgrade that game and with the 32nd defense it wouldn’t matter anyways.
Today, Fitz comes off the bench MUCH LATER in the 2nd half and is able to tie the game. Fitz was good enough to climb out of the hole. With this defense, Fitz can command the team and has the respect of the locker room. Bucs would have won of not for the missed extra point THANKS TO FITZ.
Winston is a hole digger and Fitz gives this team life. Can you blame DeSean for wanting a trade? Winston is like a dementor when he takes the field and gives off terrible vibes to everyone around him. He has probably taken YEARS off of Koetters life with added stress. I’d rather have Felipe Frank’s than Winston at this point and Frank’s is terrible.
October 28th, 2018 at 5:53 pm
How can they bench “an elite talent”??? Wish the Joe(s) would tell us….
October 28th, 2018 at 5:59 pm
Why on earth would you start Winston unless you have given up on the season ? He makes more bonehead plays than motivating plays . I was a complete die hard fan till this season but he has ruined this team with his on field play and off field antics . Time to move on again … I swear this team is cursed . Rooting since ‘76 but losing my appetite for football since I can’t bring myself to support another team .
October 28th, 2018 at 6:03 pm
Are there any adults among Malcom’s kids? They need to end this farce. Is there any decision on who will coach the team next year.
Silverbuck Swallows JW when he should spit.
October 28th, 2018 at 6:03 pm
The decision is made.
He doesn’t have to say it in Cincy. But if Fitz isn’t the QB he will lose the team. It is about accountability and we need to play the best player at the position. That is Fitzpatrick right now.
October 28th, 2018 at 6:03 pm
Are there any non fsu fans that want to keep that loser jw?
October 28th, 2018 at 6:08 pm
The things is , you can see a difference in attitude when Fitz is playing. When Jameis is playing, everyone seems to be waiting for the mistake to happen.
October 28th, 2018 at 6:09 pm
This guy is not a winner. I’d be mad if he starts next week, experiment over.
Koetter experiment is also over, his game management is subpar, kicking a field goal at the end of first half and leaving too much time on the clock at the end of the game. The biggest blunder today was not pulling Jamies after the second Int ( the was a terrible throw and it should have really been his third pick).
October 28th, 2018 at 6:10 pm
Throw Jameis out there again. All his jock supporters need more proof in their rose colored glasses.
October 28th, 2018 at 6:10 pm
The problem I have is I feel like Fitz can’t grind out a game. He can throw a deep ball but he’s not good at intermediate passes. I’m not sure whats wrong with Jameis….. I mean he does all these jukes in the pocket that fitz doesn’t seem to have to do. So maybe he just doesn’t see the field. This is just an awful issue we are having. For everyone wanting to give up on Jameis…. its just not that easy. He’s only 25 years old. What if we trade him and he becomes a stud. He has all the tools to be good and its sooo hard to draft or acquire a franchise QB. Fitz is 35. If he is the answer… he is the short term answer and we aren’t contenders…. so whats the point of that.
October 28th, 2018 at 6:11 pm
SweeptheLeg
How did your boy Ronald Jones do today?
Dude is straight trash. Slow, no ability to cut, has no balance and softer than chicken bleep.
October 28th, 2018 at 6:13 pm
So what are the Glazers supposed to do? Fire Koetter right now? The team should have lost this game by 21 points at least. It didn’t. The offensive game plan from the initial kickoff lost this game. All the offensve firepower was wasted. It was the same crappy running plays. Nothing surprising. So Winston starts backfiring and throwing interceptions. Still nothing creative with the offensive, stinky play calling. Koetter is an offensive team genius, but he’s blowing it as a HC. He can’t handle the pressure; some can and some can’t. There are 9 games left. This one sure wasn’t the fault of the defense. Placekicking woes?? More Buc Luck! Get Griffin ready and start him behind the old fart. That might give the team a chance.
October 28th, 2018 at 6:14 pm
He’s going to go with Fitz. And he should at this point. The picks have become a joke.
October 28th, 2018 at 6:23 pm
Winston will give the Bucs a great shot at a top 5 draft pick. Fitz will land us in the 20’s with all the wins he will bring.
October 28th, 2018 at 6:34 pm
Simple solution for next week. List Winston as questionable due to an undisclosed injury (bruised ego, whatever) and then start Fitz. Koetter saves the locker room and provides some cover to Licht. Koetter very likely needs Ws to keep his job so this is a move that has to happen.
Licht on the other hand can save himself by making the coaches the scapegoats. So I bet there will be some friction between Dirk and the GM.
BTW can the Bucs go ahead and sign one of the KC kickers they tried out??????
October 28th, 2018 at 6:38 pm
Orlbucfan. Could Koetter blame Monken for the poor play script or does he still hold the offensive reigns????? Lots of blame to go around….
October 28th, 2018 at 6:40 pm
Joe’s – please stop using America’s QB moniker to describe the Tallahassee Dumpster fire that is Jay Miss.
Move along….
October 28th, 2018 at 7:01 pm
I wonder if he mysteriously has another shoulder injury? …smh
October 28th, 2018 at 7:10 pm
Is this a joke?
October 28th, 2018 at 7:13 pm
They couldn’t be playing Carolina at a worst time. They are as healthy as they have been in years.
Everything is clicking for them
Even against a top defense like the Ravens
October 28th, 2018 at 7:15 pm
No decision on who coaches it either.
October 28th, 2018 at 7:20 pm
Catanzaro is the person to blame for this game. The missed kicks last week shook Jameiss up. He can’t trust the coaches, the kicker, and the GM can’t get him a running back… all out mess. The only name mentioned here who deserves to stick around is Jameis.
October 28th, 2018 at 7:24 pm
Start fitz and watch him lose just like Jameis would… the panthers r going to crush Tampa Bay. Hopefully that’s the nail in Koetters coffin.
October 28th, 2018 at 7:41 pm
This fan base has been hoping for him to fail . Envenchly every quarterback has a bad game or 2 . But that’s what they been hoping for. This fan base don’t stand behind no quarterback but old washed up guys like fizpatrick. Now that he has espertaions watch what happens.
October 28th, 2018 at 10:31 pm
Oneilbuc I like the way you spelled eventually, this fan base has been patient for 4 years, enough is enough, he is the same guy he was in college who everyone thought wouldn’t cut it in the NFL.
Just ask Tim tebow how it’s working out for him.
October 28th, 2018 at 10:56 pm
Joe, ?
“who will be the Bucs’ starting quarterback after Jameis Winston got benched for pretending to be Andy Dalton”
Winston = 18-35 for 275 1 TD 4 INT
Fitzpatrick = 11-15 for 195 2 TD 0 INT
Dalton = 21-34 for 280 2 TD 0 INT
How was Winston benched for pretending to be Dalton? Playing QB in the NFL?
October 29th, 2018 at 5:04 am
jameis is kinda like an outpatient with mental issues…i did a whole segment on it about 10 days ago…joe should do an article about what i wrote…jameis needs help…he can’t see clearly – he is mentally ill…and get’s way ahead of him self like a premature ejaculator – this is not a joke