Please save Winston’s career and trade him. The hate in this town is overwhelming and if the criticism came from any other town other than Cleveland south it might be taken with some level of seriousness but this town is just bad bad bad….enjoy life with Fitz. He will take you places, garunteed.
Nope…I’ve been a Jameis critic for all the obvious reason to non Stat Carriers and FSU homers….I say keep him through his 5th year….BUT draft a QB with our first pick next draft and make the decision after the 2019 season….we’ll know much better by then….then either let Winston hit FA after 2019 or trade the QB we take next draft….
Just trying to figure out what team would trade for him with his guaranteed money next year?
Giants? So Winston can’t handle the Tampa media, some fans and now DJack, but he will slide right in behind the worst o-line in football, handle the NY media and fans and manage Beckham? lol ok
Arizona, Buffalo, Jets all had high QB picks this year. Jacksonville is going to trade for a guy that turns it over more per game on average then Bortles and then pay him more to do so? Raiders w Carr cap hit and then Jameis cap hit? Miami possibly or Steelers if Ben were to retire, except he says he’s staying and they drafted a backup. Not seeing many viable options.
I’m sure Winston will play again this year and they make a descion on him at the end of the year and hope he doesn’t have a serious injury in the meantime.
I just took a quick look at the standings to see if there was an underperforming team — without a bona fide starting QB — that still might have a shot at the playoffs. (i.e. Interested in a mid-season trade.) The only one I could find is Jax. And I don’t think you can make the case the Winston is an upgrade over Bortles. They won’t trade him today, unless they give him away.
And while I support the decision to start Fitz this week, he’s certainly not a long-term answer. You keep Jameis, put him back in if Fitz fizzles, and think about future options during the off-season. The team stinks, so nobody outside of Tampa really cares. And I care only barely.
The Tampa fans (black, white, Latino) that want to sit him are now the reason for his poor play on the field this year and his decisions off of it? What a joke. If you can’t handle adversity you will never succeed in this league especially in a major NFL market.
I voted that it depends on the compensation but in my mind, the Bucs should try to move him. He is no longer the quarterback of the future. You know it. I know it. He knows it. Most importantly, the Bucs know it. Do you really want him sitting on the pine for the rest of the season?
It’s probably best for him that he get moved if he can be.
It take a complete team to win in the NFL. Bucs fans can pretend that their team are complete. But in reality, they know that this team is no where near a complete team. They are the 4th best (worst) team in the NFC South.
I would not pull the trade for anything less than a 2nd rder for now. Father Dungy gives Jameis excellent advice in the following article. 31 other teams are watching you. So prepare your self and stay focused. For those of you here still in diapers or blowin your noses back in the day, I recall QB’s named Steve Young and Doug Williams who played here. Bucs fans cursed them loudly during their tenures here. They both went to other teams and played their A…off!! And the same can be said for a lot of TB rejects who went to other teams and did well. The Bucs are not the end of the world ( well maybee,,). So Jameis will get another shot with yet another team. The skills are there. And he just might be.. A late bloomer!
Under no circumstances can we put ourselves in a position where Jameis gets hurt in a game or practice and were stuck paying him over 20 million on next years cap.
Why trade when they can just wait until free agency and offer him a minimal amount since it is most likely the only offer he will get. On the plus side the Bucs new GM will have $20 million of Glazer loot to throw around.
Maybe, just maybe we can get a decent corner and guard. Fingers crossed, this is Tampa after all. LOL
The Tampa fans (black, white, Latino) that want to sit him are now the reason for his poor play on the field this year and his decisions off of it? What a joke. If you can’t handle adversity you will never succeed in this league especially in a major NFL market.
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A large contingent of Eskimo wINsTon fans have also spoken out to have him benched. Still waiting to hear from Asian fans.
There is no reason for keeping Jameis in Tampa past 4pm today. He will be due $21 million if he gets injured and he won’t be the QB next season anyway. Might as well get something for him and work with Fitzmagic and Griffin for the rest of the season.
IF we let JW play and he continues to suck and gets hurt making a tackle on one of the many interception returns he generates and the Bucs are forced to honor that deal and give him 20 million for NOTHING….will it count against the cap? Even if he doesn’t play in ’19 because of injury?
I do not care about the Glazer’s money…I suspect they were the drivers of this pick in the first place and honestly from a business standpoint can we blame them? They saw an FSU star…Heisman Trophy…National Title…FILLING their stadium with PAYING customers for years to come.
The Glazers need to remove themselves from football decisions completely!!! Having great businessmen making football decisions is like letting the football people manage your stock portfolio.
Hire Tony Dungy!!! Let him make ALL the football decisions!!!
Would he be perfect…of course not…he wanted another loser at
QB…MM…The top two picks in that draft are both going to be mediocre at best. But Tony is steady…calm and could perhaps get some stability back in this franchise. He did it once before perhaps again.
IF we let JW play and he continues to suck and gets hurt making a tackle on one of the many interception returns he generates and the Bucs are forced to honor that deal and give him 20 million for NOTHING….will it count against the cap? Even if he doesn’t play in ’19 because of injury?
Don’t care. At this point, start the old fart who will fizzle and let Griffin come in. If DKoetter does not call the correct offensive game, it doesn’t matter anyway.
True! Worst game of his career but the def showed up? Dude we lost 37-34. Is that the new norm now 21-30 points before the half? Bucs gave up 27 points in the first half!!!! How is that def showing up? Gimme a break bro
Haha alright fair, but the truth is 14 of those pints came off turnovers including a pick-6, and the other set them up with great field position.
The defense did bail them out from the other 2 turnovers. Not their best game by any means, but they made enough stops that we could have easily won without the turnovers.
And you know I’m not the guy to chit on Jameis when it’s a tipped ball, or the receiver drops it / gives it away, or the o-line lets a free rusher come blast Jameis. But those turnovers last week were on him man. He just looked lost on those. And it would come right after hitting a guy in stride on a dime.
Consistency. That’s what’s so frustrating. By year 4 there needs to be more. I still would like to see him play some more so we can evaluate him more, but I honestly understand the benching right now. He’s looked worse and worse each week since coming back. It’s very concerning.
I feel more confident with Fitz but our Oline is crumbling, except for Jensen. I expect to see a few flags from the right but Smith being in a contract year is performing average(which is what everyone thinks he is it seems) and Marpet, clean it up big man, you’re supposed to be our best lineman!
I understand making a good business decision and doing the prudent thing with JW but isn’t 4 years pretty prudent?
I think a Jason Licht missed an opportunity to close up holes in the Roster (look at what the Eagles, Rams, and Redskins did today). It is clear that the writing is on the wall that there will be a housecleaning by the Glazers in January (if not mid-December).
I mean you’re given a complete OUT on this question, it’s like asking “would you sell your car?”–“TOTALLY depends on how much someone would pay for it” and that’s the ONLY answer to that question. All other answers are false.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:17 am
Please save Winston’s career and trade him. The hate in this town is overwhelming and if the criticism came from any other town other than Cleveland south it might be taken with some level of seriousness but this town is just bad bad bad….enjoy life with Fitz. He will take you places, garunteed.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:20 am
Nope…I’ve been a Jameis critic for all the obvious reason to non Stat Carriers and FSU homers….I say keep him through his 5th year….BUT draft a QB with our first pick next draft and make the decision after the 2019 season….we’ll know much better by then….then either let Winston hit FA after 2019 or trade the QB we take next draft….
October 30th, 2018 at 9:25 am
if the bills offer a 1st or 2nd for Winston, tell him bye bye…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
October 30th, 2018 at 9:35 am
Just trying to figure out what team would trade for him with his guaranteed money next year?
Giants? So Winston can’t handle the Tampa media, some fans and now DJack, but he will slide right in behind the worst o-line in football, handle the NY media and fans and manage Beckham? lol ok
Arizona, Buffalo, Jets all had high QB picks this year. Jacksonville is going to trade for a guy that turns it over more per game on average then Bortles and then pay him more to do so? Raiders w Carr cap hit and then Jameis cap hit? Miami possibly or Steelers if Ben were to retire, except he says he’s staying and they drafted a backup. Not seeing many viable options.
I’m sure Winston will play again this year and they make a descion on him at the end of the year and hope he doesn’t have a serious injury in the meantime.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:36 am
I just took a quick look at the standings to see if there was an underperforming team — without a bona fide starting QB — that still might have a shot at the playoffs. (i.e. Interested in a mid-season trade.) The only one I could find is Jax. And I don’t think you can make the case the Winston is an upgrade over Bortles. They won’t trade him today, unless they give him away.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:41 am
And while I support the decision to start Fitz this week, he’s certainly not a long-term answer. You keep Jameis, put him back in if Fitz fizzles, and think about future options during the off-season. The team stinks, so nobody outside of Tampa really cares. And I care only barely.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:42 am
This ” Dysfunctional” franchise went from #WeaponsForWinston#
To ” Best Offers” for Winston in 18 months
Lol, and this pathetic team still has fans?
October 30th, 2018 at 9:46 am
The Tampa fans (black, white, Latino) that want to sit him are now the reason for his poor play on the field this year and his decisions off of it? What a joke. If you can’t handle adversity you will never succeed in this league especially in a major NFL market.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:48 am
I voted that it depends on the compensation but in my mind, the Bucs should try to move him. He is no longer the quarterback of the future. You know it. I know it. He knows it. Most importantly, the Bucs know it. Do you really want him sitting on the pine for the rest of the season?
It’s probably best for him that he get moved if he can be.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:55 am
Maybe Chucky will trade Derek Carr for Jameis..
October 30th, 2018 at 9:56 am
LakeLand Says:
March 17th, 2018 at 12:37 pm
It take a complete team to win in the NFL. Bucs fans can pretend that their team are complete. But in reality, they know that this team is no where near a complete team. They are the 4th best (worst) team in the NFC South.
October 30th, 2018 at 10:51 am
I would not pull the trade for anything less than a 2nd rder for now. Father Dungy gives Jameis excellent advice in the following article. 31 other teams are watching you. So prepare your self and stay focused. For those of you here still in diapers or blowin your noses back in the day, I recall QB’s named Steve Young and Doug Williams who played here. Bucs fans cursed them loudly during their tenures here. They both went to other teams and played their A…off!! And the same can be said for a lot of TB rejects who went to other teams and did well. The Bucs are not the end of the world ( well maybee,,). So Jameis will get another shot with yet another team. The skills are there. And he just might be.. A late bloomer!
October 30th, 2018 at 11:48 am
Under no circumstances can we put ourselves in a position where Jameis gets hurt in a game or practice and were stuck paying him over 20 million on next years cap.
October 30th, 2018 at 12:29 pm
Why trade when they can just wait until free agency and offer him a minimal amount since it is most likely the only offer he will get. On the plus side the Bucs new GM will have $20 million of Glazer loot to throw around.
Maybe, just maybe we can get a decent corner and guard. Fingers crossed, this is Tampa after all. LOL
October 30th, 2018 at 12:32 pm
Patrickbucs Says:
The Tampa fans (black, white, Latino) that want to sit him are now the reason for his poor play on the field this year and his decisions off of it? What a joke. If you can’t handle adversity you will never succeed in this league especially in a major NFL market.
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A large contingent of Eskimo wINsTon fans have also spoken out to have him benched. Still waiting to hear from Asian fans.
October 30th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
There is no reason for keeping Jameis in Tampa past 4pm today. He will be due $21 million if he gets injured and he won’t be the QB next season anyway. Might as well get something for him and work with Fitzmagic and Griffin for the rest of the season.
October 30th, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Can someone explain a technicality to me.
IF we let JW play and he continues to suck and gets hurt making a tackle on one of the many interception returns he generates and the Bucs are forced to honor that deal and give him 20 million for NOTHING….will it count against the cap? Even if he doesn’t play in ’19 because of injury?
I do not care about the Glazer’s money…I suspect they were the drivers of this pick in the first place and honestly from a business standpoint can we blame them? They saw an FSU star…Heisman Trophy…National Title…FILLING their stadium with PAYING customers for years to come.
The Glazers need to remove themselves from football decisions completely!!! Having great businessmen making football decisions is like letting the football people manage your stock portfolio.
Hire Tony Dungy!!! Let him make ALL the football decisions!!!
Would he be perfect…of course not…he wanted another loser at
QB…MM…The top two picks in that draft are both going to be mediocre at best. But Tony is steady…calm and could perhaps get some stability back in this franchise. He did it once before perhaps again.
October 30th, 2018 at 12:55 pm
damn…. 75% are ready to trades jameis, CRABMAN, winston
he’s toast
October 30th, 2018 at 1:02 pm
Yes.
October 30th, 2018 at 2:40 pm
Don’t care. At this point, start the old fart who will fizzle and let Griffin come in. If DKoetter does not call the correct offensive game, it doesn’t matter anyway.
October 30th, 2018 at 3:22 pm
DB c’mon man. That was an absolutely terrible performance on sunday.
Most of those INTs were completely UNFORCED! It was soley on Jameis.
– Running game showed up.
– Defense showed up.
– We have a top 3 receiving corps
– O-line wasn’t great, but they gave him plenty of time on most plays.
October 30th, 2018 at 3:46 pm
Unb
True! Worst game of his career but the def showed up? Dude we lost 37-34. Is that the new norm now 21-30 points before the half? Bucs gave up 27 points in the first half!!!! How is that def showing up? Gimme a break bro
October 30th, 2018 at 4:22 pm
Haha alright fair, but the truth is 14 of those pints came off turnovers including a pick-6, and the other set them up with great field position.
The defense did bail them out from the other 2 turnovers. Not their best game by any means, but they made enough stops that we could have easily won without the turnovers.
And you know I’m not the guy to chit on Jameis when it’s a tipped ball, or the receiver drops it / gives it away, or the o-line lets a free rusher come blast Jameis. But those turnovers last week were on him man. He just looked lost on those. And it would come right after hitting a guy in stride on a dime.
Consistency. That’s what’s so frustrating. By year 4 there needs to be more. I still would like to see him play some more so we can evaluate him more, but I honestly understand the benching right now. He’s looked worse and worse each week since coming back. It’s very concerning.
October 30th, 2018 at 4:36 pm
In the meantime maybe the bucs can address the defensive backfield situation
October 30th, 2018 at 8:30 pm
I feel more confident with Fitz but our Oline is crumbling, except for Jensen. I expect to see a few flags from the right but Smith being in a contract year is performing average(which is what everyone thinks he is it seems) and Marpet, clean it up big man, you’re supposed to be our best lineman!
I understand making a good business decision and doing the prudent thing with JW but isn’t 4 years pretty prudent?
October 30th, 2018 at 8:40 pm
I think a Jason Licht missed an opportunity to close up holes in the Roster (look at what the Eagles, Rams, and Redskins did today). It is clear that the writing is on the wall that there will be a housecleaning by the Glazers in January (if not mid-December).
October 31st, 2018 at 12:21 am
I mean you’re given a complete OUT on this question, it’s like asking “would you sell your car?”–“TOTALLY depends on how much someone would pay for it” and that’s the ONLY answer to that question. All other answers are false.
October 31st, 2018 at 2:05 am
What a bunch of idiots.
October 31st, 2018 at 1:16 pm
DB
Maybe if JW didn’t keep killing our drives and giving the ball back to Cincy with his INT’s, they wouldn’t have scored 27 in the first half. DUH
But I’m sure you know that…
BTW that defense in the second half gave up 10 pts…and gave the ball back to JW (and Fitz, after JW’s last int) with multiple three and outs.
They did exactly what a defense needed to do.