“Mad Bomber”
October 31st, 2018
Deep statistical breakdown of America.
Bucs fans have absolutely turned on America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
But not the stat geeks.
Since Jameis and his benching is sort of the NFL story of the week, the folks at Football Outsiders decided to do a large study and analysis of Jameis to find out what the hell is going on.
In short, Vincent Verhei writes that Jameis’ highs when he does things right are extraordinary. But his lows are ghastly if not shockingly bad.
Verhei writes, if someone can find a way to help Jameis limit the picks, the Bucs have a special, special quarterback on their hands. But is that an impossible task?
Winston has now thrown 54 interceptions in 1,692 pass attempts in his career. That’s an interception rate of 3.19 percent, the worst such rate of any quarterback with at least a thousand pass attempts in the NFL since he was drafted first overall in 2015. However, he has also completed 1,035 passes for 12,817 yards. That works out to 12.4 yards per completion, and that’s the second-best of any passer in that same timeframe — and since Carson Palmer, the only player ahead of Winston, has now retired, it’s fair to say that Winston is the reigning mad bomber of the NFL.
This season, at least, that dichotomy has shown up clearly in Winston’s advanced stats too. At Football Outsiders, the first step in all of our analysis is to define each play as a success or a failure. As a reminder, a play is considered a success if it gains 45 percent of needed yards on first down; 60 percent of needed yards on second down; or a first-down conversion on third or fourth down. With this methodology, we can separate Winston’s successes from his failures, and compare those results to the successes and failures of the league’s other quarterbacks. This will help us answer the question of whether Winston’s highs and lows are really as extreme as they appear on the surface.
Winston has a success rate of 49.7 percent on 163 pass plays this season. That might sound low, but it’s actually 11th-best of the 35 quarterbacks with at least 100 pass plays. (There are a LOT of checkdowns and dumpoffs in the NFL in 2018.)
Oddly enough, Football Outsiders believes one of the quarterbacks Jameis compares to using this year’s data is — are you ready for this? — journeyman backup Ryan Fitzpatrick.
The key question with Jameis is, can somebody or someone get in his head and somehow get him to ease off on the picks? If so, he’s a top-shelf quarterback. But can that happen or is it impossible?
That’s probably what the powers that be at One Buc Palace are wrestling with right now.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:03 am
Write about someone else…This is ludicrous….He’s a strong armed QB with no head for the game. END OF STORY…END OF WINSTUNNED
October 31st, 2018 at 10:05 am
Jameis needs better coaching. Period!! If he was in NE I guarantee you Bill would turn Winston into a MVP player. Fire DIRK!!
October 31st, 2018 at 10:06 am
He is a turn over machine with talent….Next in the line, let´s move on…….
October 31st, 2018 at 10:10 am
on Monday, PFT, compared Winston to vinny t…..noting that when vinny was young he thought he could make every throw….most of the time he forced throws and made head scratching mistakes…..it wasn’t until he was in his 30’s that he started managing the game with the jets…..
either way Winston being compared to vinny or fitz is bad company imo….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
October 31st, 2018 at 10:11 am
Change his QB coach! Get him some mental therapy to hypnotize him not to throw picks idk he needs help on the patience. Take what the defense gives you ! Pay Peyton Manning to come coach him up idk something !!! He has potential to be the BEST!!!
October 31st, 2018 at 10:11 am
“Mcvay turned rookie bust Goff into MVP candidate last year”
Kobe Faker
October 31st, 2018 at 10:11 am
Joes,
Why no mention of DJax’s twitter and Instagram post from 2 days ago (the day Jameis was officially benched)… ?
It was a pic of him throwin up a peace sign and basically saying ‘Peace the f*ck out ‘.
‘Alots been said not much been done. Respect those who show up and show out.’ – DJax
October 31st, 2018 at 10:11 am
VFL98, you think the coach is responsabile for his turn overs? His lack of accuracy on deep balls? Just listen to every single Winston´s press conference he gave in his Bucs tenure….HOw many times you hear about his risks? About NOT protecting the ball….about his gambling type of decition making……..That´s not on the coach…..thats his style, and he has no intention to change it so far, even Coaches media and fans are begging to protect the ball……..Dude this is not on the coach
October 31st, 2018 at 10:11 am
VFL98
I AGREE…..
better coaching would do wonders for the entire team….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
October 31st, 2018 at 10:13 am
Is there a stat for JW’s negative effect on this team, the level of play increase when Fitz plays, or the body language of the players? Don’t think so.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:14 am
Being successful in this game is all about —>consistent execution<—.
People who are executing at the highest level don't have patience for someone who is executing and SHOULD be.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:14 am
Our team loses so much, we don’t know who or what to support! Jameis is here thru next season. I do beleive the Glazers bring in new coaches next yr if Koetter cannot reach 500. And thats highly likely. New coaching staff will evaluate Jameis’s play. And I do think they change the play calling a bit. Its funny to me people who say Fitz is the man have never followed his career. He’s a career backup for a reason! If our season starts turning bad after Carolina, I’d like to see us give this kid Griffin some playing time. Lets see what he’s got. Jameis ain’t goin nowheres people.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:14 am
I’ve written before that I’m not a Jameis fan and yes I would have draft Mariotta, but I think he has all kinds of talent. After he came back from injury last year, he had to be one of the best qb’s in the league through the end of the season.
I don’t think he is getting the coaching he needs. I also think he is screwed up this year. Fitz playing great early in the season put extra pressure on him. Desean wanting to be traded made him uncomfortable. Him missing 3 games screwed him up. I want him gone for his off the field stuff, but I think he is going to be a great qb if he gets hooked up with the right coach.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:15 am
Major typo above….
Is *NOT executing
October 31st, 2018 at 10:18 am
More polishing of the Winston apple?
Winston will forever be a turnover machine, and history proves it. He is the same guy he always has been, and always will be.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:19 am
@Thisisouryear!!
…you sound like the Joes…In your statement he is a mental midget. Rather have a QB with balls than someone who can’t perform because he’s offended by something else…brutal excuses
October 31st, 2018 at 10:19 am
You should do a Winston poll, Joe.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:20 am
After reading this article the questions came to mind….
Is it possible that what we are seeing is Jameis Winston becoming a future “Ryan Fitzpatrick”???
Is it possible in 10 years people (experts/fans) will be saying the same things about Jameis as they do Fitzpatrick today?
October 31st, 2018 at 10:25 am
This staff has hung him out to dry. Never had a running game, always had a bad defense, and has focused draft and FA capital on pass catchers which leads to 40+ pass attempts.
Jason has drafted 3 dlineman in his tenure. He’s drafted 3 TEs in his tenure. And countless WRs. Built this team like an idiot.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:28 am
@Joe
Turned? The fan base was never in support of JW to begin with. A lot of discussion has been had about “FSU fans” cheering for Jameis and not for the team, which I don’t think is the case. Those same fans have been rooting for JW to fail, which boggles the mind. No matter what happened, he never had a chance here. It’s sad that most of the fans cheering for his demise have no idea how bad this is for the franchise and how it sets us back years. I support Fitz, but the 2 years of production people are speculating we can get from him clouds the fact that we are yet again at drawing board for another QB. People want Tua, but for what? So we can ruin his career too…like we’ve done with every qb we picked in the draft. At one of the Joe’s stated on the podcast, we will likely have a Eli Manning situation where agents will tell their clients to avoid Tampa like the plague….there is nothing good about this situation.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:30 am
When they get done trying to figure out about all the interceptions then they can move on to the fumbling. 35 fumbles 16 lost in 48 games played. A fumble lost every three games he’s played.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:32 am
I think Winston is the next Fitzpatrick. But, here’s my question for the next analysis: How many of his picks are decision-related (he tried to force a throw he shouldn’t) and how many are technique-related (the receiver is open and he just overthrows it)? It seemed like Sunday had two of each. Theoretically, you could reduce the decision-related ones, but can you ever get rid of errant throws? Interesting conundrum for management as the league is trending toward “pay your QB $50M and everyone else league minimum.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:34 am
JW compares with/ similar to a back up. Yep, thats a problem.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:36 am
and jw will be better and my bet is eventually, in the right system good but in the nfl you really cant wait another 4 years
October 31st, 2018 at 10:38 am
I think this is Jameis turning point, the moment “he gets it”, now that he’s realizing how cold this world truly is. He’s always gone out of his way to help people and make them smile because he has always had that inner desire to be liked. Now that he realizes how fast the “fans”, his teammates (there is no family in the NFL, sorry Jameis) and the local media will stab him in the back, he’ll be better off. He won’t waste his time trying to please everyone and he can just focus on playing the game he loves.
Unfortunately for Tampa, it will be for another team, probably a rival like New Orleans, as he probably is looking forward to a clean slate.
I think DJax wanting to be traded really hit him hard, how much work he spent trying to improve their chemistry. Once he realized he shouldn’t care what DJax wants you notice he dropped a dime to #11 on that 60 yard TD?
October 31st, 2018 at 10:40 am
Bernie Mac ain’t no Quarterback!
October 31st, 2018 at 10:53 am
erik
I didn’t know djax said that…..was he saying peace out to Winston and thanking dirk for inserting fitz or was he saying peace out he’s only collecting checks right now?….
I also heard that JPP was pissed off and was yelling at the team after the lost…..heard some players thought the lost was no big deal but JPP ripped the entire team…..wonder if joe has anything on that….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
October 31st, 2018 at 10:54 am
Too many of his yards are in garbage time. What doesn’t he do? Win. That’s the only stat that matters.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:55 am
Yeah ZZ BUC woukd have RUN Bret Farve out of town. Atlanta got rid of Favre and look what happened. Thank Goodness IGNORANT FANS don’t make decisions. Hopefully we won’t be the Atlanta in this equation and get rid of a good qb! U guys r amazing! I ADMIT he should be benched but u guys act like EVERY LOSS on his record is on HIM! That’s total Bull spit! I would like him to leave and go to a more sophisticated market. Reading these HATE POSTS makes me want to puke!
October 31st, 2018 at 10:57 am
Forget the freaking stats. There are numbers guys here who can break down how much of those stats were accrued against prevent defenses willing to give up chunks of yardage because they were SO FAR AHEAD! Many times they were so far ahead because JW had a 2-3 or even 4 int game.
Use your eyes!!! JW threw six int balls Sunday…the Bungles dropped two of them. NONE of those passes were the result of poor coaching…or riverboat gambling ala Favre…they were all just mind numbing.
JW DOES NOT SEE THE FIELD. Either that or the Bengals were wearing their magic invisible unis. This is NOT the first time that JW just hits the other team’s defenders.
I get that the prevailing defense of JW now is…hey…let’s average his bad plays and his good plays…and he does make some good plays as amazing as those six passes in Cincy.
I just don’t want to live like that. In addition…my “eyes” tell me that we’re coming out on the losing end of that “average” of great plays versus mind numbing horrid passes.
October 31st, 2018 at 10:57 am
Enough on Jameis. how about something relevant.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:07 am
Bust. Period.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:10 am
Winston at this point is the equivalent of a money pit home. How much more can you spend propping up a turd? Move on and let him be some elses 4 year project like maybe the CFL. Winston make HS football mistakes. He was drafted #1. It doesn’t add up.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:13 am
need to see if a new coaching staff can “fix” him.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:15 am
What the Stats don’t show is that many of his “completions” are poorly thrown and placed balls….
October 31st, 2018 at 11:19 am
Expect the Bo Jackson/Eli Manning treatment from any first round picks going forward.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:22 am
I want to see it work for this guy. Just too much talent/potential to give up on! But he needs to sit and watch for awhile. You could see it after pick#2 the other day. He is a shot fighter right now. And needs to regroup.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:25 am
I don’t understand the logic of putting all of your hopes
On a 36 year old Journeyman, on his 7th team
With a 50-72-1 career record
A career 3.4 career INT %
Never , Ever been in a NFL playoff game
But these are the BUCS
October 31st, 2018 at 11:25 am
I think our backup quarterback is getting too much print. Maybe run a few stories on our backup kicker or backup long snapper to mix it up a bit.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:26 am
I tend to agree – I am not a fan of this coaching staff.
They have done little to maximize JWs potential IMO
The play calls have been pretty lame up until this year and we see a pretty big difference.
AND blame goes out to the coaches for not coaching up the rest of the team as well.
THEN you have a GM that seems to just randomly make picks – I know a lot of GMs miss on picks but this guy is missing on 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders who should be making up the backbone of this team – this just to say if we had even a decent running game and a decent defense and a kicker (faceplam) this team could make some noise and take some of the pressure of the QBs
October 31st, 2018 at 11:27 am
SilverBuc Says:
“Expect the Bo Jackson/Eli Manning treatment from any first round picks going forward.”
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Why? How so?
October 31st, 2018 at 11:27 am
@Bucs Nihilist
“Fix him”?…good god, he is the single reason this team was sh*t for the last 4 years and probably years more to fix the mistake of relying on this crap #1 pick. Add to that the off the field problems. Does anyone think he deserves more time to try and “fix him”? It’s a mistake that needs to be buried before this team can “attempt” to move forward. What a torture it would be to hang on to this issue and relive more disappointment. WINSTUNNED IS DONE!
October 31st, 2018 at 11:28 am
It’s 100% between the ears. America’s pu**y grabber thrives in preseason when there’s no pressure, and the 2 minute offense when he doesnt have time to think. Engage the brain and poor decisions are made…on and off the field.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:28 am
I have to agree with the sentiment that this team is so screwed up that’s it’s hard to accurately evaluate Jameis. Yes he does boneheaded things, but some of that rests with the fact that he is always forced to do too much or is two TDs behind and trying to come back. I’m not sure Fitz will do much better this week when our D gets shredded by Carolina. Not defending Jameis’s poor play last week, but no defense,no kicking, bad protection, bad game strategy, and poor running game, certainly doesn’t help the situation.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:33 am
JimmyT I 100% agree but ignorant fans think someone is listening but don’t realize only joes are listening. D jack doesn’t get to decide what is done either he won’t be getting another contract anyway. I bet Humphries, oj, Evans and Brate are behind Winston because they get their yards. Oh and so does Godwin. People don’t think glazers have their own people doing analysis on Winston?
He may be here longer than dirk problem is people are so happy they aren’t thinking clearly. Your suddenly expecting it to be like games 1-2 not games 3-4. I won’t assume like the Fitz Magic sheep desperate for hope but dirk better hope Winston is the problem even though Fitz is responsible for more losses this year lol ok. Don’t blame Winston for his losses and Fitz losses on the defense
October 31st, 2018 at 11:37 am
@Lakeland
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Yes we do, because having temporary Fitz for this year and maybe one more year until we find someone stable and average QB, is less loss then having JW for ten years of losses, frustration, empty stadium.
So cut long time losses, go with common sense.
P.S.
Reminder: Aguayo still suck, no miracles with new coach or new team.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:40 am
Someone can help him. The Buc’s doctor! He needs to petition the Glazers to convince the NFL’s anti doping committee to allow Jameis to take Ritalin for his adult ADHD.
I am right about this. And am not making fun of him or his affliction. I am just saying he has all the signs of it but can’t use proven treatments because of the NFL’s banned substance list.
So sad that a a person with obvious talent can’t be given the help he needs to succeed.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:50 am
SKBUCS,
Ritalin is not banned. Neither is Adderall. Both are available for treatment with notification to the league. It’s banned without a rx maybe that’s what you’ve heard.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:54 am
Btw, SKBUCS I’ve said the same thing and it does explain a lot. I just don’t know if that’s the whole issue. Freeman was easy to spot , Jameis maybe has something else going on.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:54 am
He’s just too reckless with the ball. Sunday’s game he could have easily had 6 INTs…the Bengals defenders dropped a couple. You can’t win when your “franchise” QB keeps turning the damn ball over all the time. The only way this team is going to win games….with our less than stellar defense….is to score early and often and keep our defense from having to be out on the field too much. Fitzmagic knows how to do that! Jameis is just a human turnover machine who ends drives instead of keeping them going!
October 31st, 2018 at 11:56 am
1st you have to listen when your being coached. 2nd apply what your being coached. do you really thing DK is telling him its ok to throw to the other team ? it is what it is,a turn over machine and soon to be a coach killer
October 31st, 2018 at 11:57 am
Joe I havnt turned on #3. I agree you can’t turn the ball over as much as he does but we all knew this wen he was coming out of college an thought it could be fixed after a few years like manning, farve, Palmer an so on. It might just take him a little longer than others hopefully speaking. I deff think him being benched for his play instead of off the field issues might knock some sense into him HOPEFULLY an that’s a big hope lol if #3 learns to protect the ball an our deff can take a step forward this team can compete with any team in the nfl
October 31st, 2018 at 11:58 am
Not there,
Its the team that’s driving this decision. Team vs winston. It will pass soon enough.
Winston will be back soon enough so don’t panic.
October 31st, 2018 at 11:59 am
This is the same franchise that traded their 1st round pick in 1983
For Bengals QB Jack Thompson to replace Doug Williams
Doug, the QB who had lead them to the playoffs 3 times in 5 seasons
It get real dumb and stupid
Jack Thompson was already a ” Bust” with the Bengals
The Bengals had drafted him 3rd overall in 1979
He started 5 games for the Bengals in 5 years, 1-4 record
And that draft pick turned out to be the #1 overall pick in the 1983 draft
Because they sucked with Thompson, they went 2-11 with him
1-2, the next season, and they cut him after 3 starts
These are your Tampa Bay Yucs
October 31st, 2018 at 12:01 pm
**Started 5 games in 4 years**
October 31st, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Stats are for losers. “W”s are for winners. I’ll take a consistent game manager over a stat-loader rock thrower who ultimately loses games for us.
October 31st, 2018 at 12:18 pm
In 1990 they traded their 1992 first round draft pick to the Colts
For QB Chris Chandler
They wanted Chandler to take the job from Vinny Testaverde
Chandler stunk as bad as Testaverde, 0-8 in 8 starts
The draft pick turned out to be the #2 pick in the 1992 draft
They cut Chandler in mid-season in 1991
They got rid of Testaverde in 1992
But they both had long NFL careers after leaving Tampa
Testaverde went on to play for 21 years
2 Pro Bowls, 5 time playoffs
Chris Chandler went on to play for 17 years
Including leading the Falcons to the Super Bowl
October 31st, 2018 at 12:24 pm
There is NO way it’s Jameis’s fault. It’s everybody else’s fault I’m telling you. Why should everything that JW do wrong be blamed on him? This cr@p ain’t right, the world ain’t right. There is no way that America’s Franchise QB is no better than an over the hill, filthy 35 y.o. backup that has a magical beard. That’s just like calling Famous Jameis a glorified backup. How dare they?
October 31st, 2018 at 12:26 pm
D1
I am just going by the official banned substance list. One would hope he could still get treatment if he needs it.
And you are right. There is something going on. Winston panics and throws away the ball even though he knows he shouldn’t. I am not sure it can be fixed, but if it can it will likely be by another team.
October 31st, 2018 at 12:32 pm
As Ira Kaufman keeps saying, this offense is near historic in yardage generated. How much better can the coaching on the offense get?
Jay Miss is America’s Turnover Machine; always was, always will be.
Turn to Fitz, cutdown on the turnovers, fix the D and see if the Ws follow.
October 31st, 2018 at 12:35 pm
How many of these completed pass are because of Evans Brate or Humphries
Let’s look at on target throws I bet that number is low
Jamies throws high a lot
Jamies is not accurate pass 20 yards
A ton of passing yards gets you nothing but a great fantasy QB
October 31st, 2018 at 12:37 pm
Jameis can have a good backup career……….Maybe
October 31st, 2018 at 12:37 pm
It’s pretty amazing, the yards that Jameis has especially with the lack of RAC. But is not the yards or completions, it is the inconsistency and the unforced turnovers.
This reminds me of mostBuc QBs we have had in the past with the exception of the one great year J-fro had, Bucs QB drop back, Bucs fan collectively hold their breath hoping for a completion or incompletion.
October 31st, 2018 at 12:47 pm
@rrsrq..
the reason there is no RAC is because the ball is not placed in the proper position. Usually a high throw that someone has to risk there life to extend and catch or it’s behind them when they are running free in an open field. He finally hit Djax last week. Where was the ball? Djax slowed up and caught it on his hip!
October 31st, 2018 at 12:53 pm
People keep blaming FITZ, this is all on Jameis, he put us in this situation. He cant even beat a 36 year old journeyman out of a job, this says volumes about Winstons play. Lucky to have FITZ we would be 1 and 6 at this time.
October 31st, 2018 at 1:01 pm
Poor Jameis – he deserves better and it’s not his fault that’s he is inaccurate and misreads and bad footwork and mechanics.
October 31st, 2018 at 1:02 pm
I’m glad to see Fitz playing so the Bucs can see if Koetter is worth keeping.
If Fitz is successful, then you can put it all on Jameis.
But if Fitz flames out, then it seems to me coaching is the problem.
As Joe alluded to in earlier story, first Koetter says he doesn’t like to change qb’s, then he changes twice within 4 games.
First he tells Jameis no sacks, then benches him for turnovers.
I wonder if Jameis is confident in what he is supposed to do.
October 31st, 2018 at 1:37 pm
America’s baseball pitcher
October 31st, 2018 at 1:46 pm
Stares down receivers aka Mike evans…cant see the field ie;check downs missed all the time..takes too many sacks.. I just gotta get better..4 years later…I just gotta get better
October 31st, 2018 at 1:51 pm
Good bye Winston. And good bye FSU honks. The bandwagon will be a lot lighter once he is cut.
October 31st, 2018 at 2:08 pm
I’ve been saying for years, Get The Man a real quarterbacks coach…
Licht needs to get Kurt Warner on the phone.
Jameis has talent, He needs better coaching, He would thrive being tutored by a former QB with actual NFL Experience.
October 31st, 2018 at 2:13 pm
He’s 24 folks.
None of the know it alls on this forum were finished products at 24.
QBs especially have much longer shelf lives and we see guys not hitting their peaks until their 30s these days.
No sane person would give up on a 24 year old.
The Bucs have given up on every single QB they have ever drafted in their entire history. They have never signed one to a second contract. How has that worked out for the franchise?
October 31st, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Bucs “fans” haven’t turned, it’s just your typical internet lynch mob who will job on any bandwagon because they’re morons.
October 31st, 2018 at 3:10 pm
4 years was plenty of time. Winston sucks…
October 31st, 2018 at 3:38 pm
Mahomes is 23 folks
October 31st, 2018 at 4:02 pm
SkBucs,
If you’re interested, go watch The Gruden QB camp with Jameis, pay close attention to how Jameis reacts during the int reel. Now go watch Gruden doing the same thing with Wentz, Goff and Mahomes. Personally, I find it enlightening.
The other side that is said rather frequently is “good Jameis”, “bad Jameis”.
There’s none to few scouts, personnel front office guys, and coaches who would say “exactly” to the “good Jameis, bad Jameis” comment. I have zero first hand knowledge but that seems to indicate that it’s something else.
But that aside, JW is someone who could have benefited greatly from another year of college ball. He was billed as a day 1 starter who was NFL ready, off the charts football IQ and a great leader of Men. Hence a #1 pick and day 1 the team was his. Sorry but it’s not terribly surprising that the guy has struggled with certain parts of his game. Other parts He has been good to great.
If the team could go back, I say that it’s not hard to see the mistake was bringing in a QB first and then try to build around him. I am a firm believer in building the team then finding the QB. If you’re asking a 20something kid to step into the league and carry a team that is not going to end well in all but a few cases. For the most part, a kid isn’t capable of putting a team on his back and carrying it.
JW as talented as He is, He isn’t, nor was He ever capable of doing it.
Is that on him, he’ll no. That’s the GM and Ownership group.
Last, I think that it’s clear to anyone who has high level management experience that the least powerful voice in the room is Koetters. Licht and the Glazers decided to follow conventional wisdom about team building. We gotta get a franchise QB. It’s what 90% if not more of the teams fans would agree with, so it’s not like they’re dumb and buc nation is teeming with Einstein’s. The facts support an entirely different approach but what’s the common question today.
Who is the QB next year?
So as a Fan I have no real belief that the team is going to suddenly become America’s team if we fire everybody and hire another group of future ex bucs coaches and players. I mean the team doesn’t seem to change even as it changes.
October 31st, 2018 at 4:33 pm
He averages 12.4 yards per completion because he rarely throws short or checks the ball down if he thinks he can make a big play. Humphries was wide open at the first down marker right in front of Winston when he threw the INT intended for Evans. That would have been an easy first down. I guess maybe not so easy since he missed Brate for an INT when he was wide open.
October 31st, 2018 at 5:46 pm
Mike Johnson Says:
Our team loses so much, we don’t know who or what to support! Jameis is here thru next season. I do beleive the Glazers bring in new coaches next yr if Koetter cannot reach 500. And thats highly likely
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In looking at the schedule we still have some very winnable games ahead of us – @NYGiants, @Ravens @Cowboys @Panthers
Home – Saints, Panthers, Falcons, 49ers, Redskins
I see this team getting those wins and Koetter and Licht’s jobs saved. Then the hard questions begin.
October 31st, 2018 at 6:25 pm
Jameis just does not think. He might be a smart guy, but he has no in the moment IQ. He might gain wisdom over time but now he is just a non thinking knucklehead.
October 31st, 2018 at 7:17 pm
Interesting the Bucs got calls for teams interested in a QB trade,
problem was they were all for Fitz, seems like other teams have a need but it’s not for JayMiss !
October 31st, 2018 at 11:36 pm
All he has is the best receiving core in the nfl
November 1st, 2018 at 4:56 am
Mr 6ints is his competition maybe Jameis is picking up Fitz of old bad habits lol
November 1st, 2018 at 12:07 pm
I’ve always been a Jameis supporter but those folks saying that the Bucs failed him by not having a quality coach or GM or supporting personnel are failing to realize that a journeyman QB is looking great under this current coaching staff, GM, and supporting personnel. You can’t argue that he has been set up to fail when you have a guy that has failed at all stops along his run through the NFL is enjoying great success. Jameis either needs to get better or get out. One thing that Fitzpatrick has shown us is that a QB doesn’t have to be great to be successful, he just has to be smart and accurate. Of course he isn’t the long term answer, but we don’t need a savior to come in and take us to the promised land. We need a QB that can make good decisions and hit open receivers. Fitzpatrick has done that and all of the Jameis apologists are still making excuses.
Jameis has earned both of his trips to the bench this season. He might get another chance to earn his job back. Maybe because of injury, might be because of poor performance from Fitz, or maybe Jameis somehow shows he turned a corner in practice. But whatever reason, if he gets that chance, he needs to play better, no excuses. I don’t care if he leaves here and wins a Super Bowl with another team…because he is never going to do it here playing the way he’s been playing.