Jason Licht Confidence Poll III
October 6th, 2018As promised with the Aug. 28 Jason Licht Confidence Poll, here is a new, 24-hour poll at the bye week. See the post-training-camp results here. Poll posted at 9:20 a.m.
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As promised with the Aug. 28 Jason Licht Confidence Poll, here is a new, 24-hour poll at the bye week. See the post-training-camp results here. Poll posted at 9:20 a.m.
October 6th, 2018 at 9:53 am
Jason Gump is a bafoon! When will people stop making excuses for the guy responsible for Aguayo among other horrid draft picks.
October 6th, 2018 at 9:56 am
We all know who the problem is.
Rhymes with Ike Mith.
Jason Licht continues to add talent add a fantastic rate. Need someone who isnt completely clueless to orchestrate the defense. and if the coach isnt willing to fire his friend and go out and find the right person for the job, than the coach needs to go to.
October 6th, 2018 at 10:06 am
Put up the entire VH3 draft one day. Passed over another DROY in Derwin James’s as well. He moves up and down in the draft for the wrongguus. And to be honest besides JPP and Vinny Curry- his trades and FA signing suck compared to what was out there.
October 6th, 2018 at 10:21 am
The fact that the majority of fans are not Very Confident or better is proof of the complete idiocy of Tampa Fans.
Best GM in franchise history, and people have doubts. How easily they forget how bad our GMs can be.
October 6th, 2018 at 10:41 am
I was a huge licht supporter but voted little confidence. Still too many holes in our defense and the o line still needs 2 pieces.
October 6th, 2018 at 10:48 am
I am CONFIDENT he will be getting drunk at his normal S Tampa spots he goes to. Since he knows he made yet another mistake taking Vita Vea instead of Rookie of the Year Derwin James. Have another one and ponder where you’re gonna live in Nashville when Jon Robinson has to give you a job next year.
October 6th, 2018 at 11:07 am
@bonzai
Admittedly the bar is set pretty low around this franchise – so that’s not saying much
As the league transitions into a passing and NOT running oriented league – We had a shot at 2 hybrid play makers in Fitzpatrick and James – both of whom I feel will pay large dividends in the pass defenses of their teams. Instead we go for a run stopping DT because Smith still feels its a stop the run first league.
Dude is making the same damn mistakes he made in ATL – sadly hes like a moth to a flame – he just cant help himself
October 6th, 2018 at 11:18 am
@Bonzai … “Best GM in franchise history, and people have doubts. How easily they forget how bad our GMs can be.” Not forgetting how terrible at all Bonzai how terrible our GMs have been since the Dungy/MacKay era.
I’ll concede that Jason Licht is the best of the worst … we’ve had 3 awful GMs since MacKay (Bruce Almighty, Dom & Licht). But being the ‘best of the worst’ is eerily similar to far too many of the choices we’ve had for high political offices that we’ve had for the last 25+ years.
I’ve long believed Bonzai that upper management’s primary function is to provide the guidance AND resources those under them need to execute the mission (sorry, it’s that military training in me that keeps jumping out, but I guarantee you that it works in business too). The Bucs’ VISION of what they want to build to has been so convoluted for so long that I don’t think any of them have any idea any more of what it should REALLY look like. Our defense for instance is at best a composite vision of a Tampa-2 combined with some old-school, pre-pass-happy days concepts. Example? Now we’ve beefed up the DLine & combined it with small, speedy LBs backed by a smallish Secondary that can’t effectively play zone cover. Result is rather predictable (especially if the DLine beef takes a siesta). Jason Licht is the architect of THAT now, but it’s been going on for over 10 years now. The results speak for themselves. But hey, let’s fire Smitty and it’ll be all better. No problemo.
October 6th, 2018 at 11:28 am
How can you rate Licht has doing ok???He has been gm for how many losing years?? It doesn’t take this long to build a winning team . Still lots of holes on both sides of the ball with poor draft pics. He is in charge !!!
October 6th, 2018 at 11:40 am
Buc Bonzai,best GM in franchise history??? Really?? With his first two picks as a GM, Rich Mckay drafts TWO first ballot HOF’rs not to mention drafting Alstott, Dunn, Ronde Barber, Brian Kelly, Dexter Jackson (SB MVP) and Donnie Abraham. Shall we point out the free agent signings such as HOF candidate Simeon Rice, Michael Pittman and Joe Jurevicius?? I believe this “idiotic Tampa Bay Fan” seems to remember these guys having a couple of good games in January of 2003. But maybe I am too hasty to judge. I’m sure RoJo will be activated more games than not. I’m sure Roberto will make into the new league at some point. Draft picks have been average at best and free agency has been horrible. Nice pick with Mike Evans though.
October 6th, 2018 at 11:46 am
Licht has been in charge for years as gm of a team with a losing record?? How can anyone say he has done a good job unless his job is to keep the bucs in LAST place
October 6th, 2018 at 11:46 am
Little confidence because Mike Smith hasn’t been fired during the BYE week.
October 6th, 2018 at 11:49 am
Overall confident in regards to Jason Licht. I truly do believe he is well above average when it comes to evaluating young talent. However I feel like Licht would benefit tremendous from having someone preside over him as a VP of Football operations to steer him in the right direction.
Lichts biggest problem is that he seems to always want to gamble at a position of major need, and then when his gamble blows up in his face he addresses it sufficiently but its always a year too late.
October 6th, 2018 at 12:24 pm
I voted confident, would have been higher if Litch stepped up and made an executive decision and he either reassign Smitty or fired him right
October 6th, 2018 at 12:33 pm
I would have voted totally confident but not knowing if he has the power or not to fire Mike Smith made be sit in the middle. If he doesn’t have the final say in his firing I would say totally confident but if he is keeping Smitty because he doesn’t want to step over Dirk the best I could do is confident.
I really hope this team comes out playing press coverage and jamming wr’s at the line against Atlanta. You can still play cover two here and there but single high sending the dogs with pressing , taking the chance on getting beat by the deep ball is way better than getting dinked and dunked on left and right by crap qb’s being made to look like hall of famers.
FIRE MIKE SMITH!!!
October 6th, 2018 at 12:50 pm
Demetre, Rich McKay only made a few great picks. And he placed the franchise in cap hell, then bailed when he could no longer hide it.
Licht has had more successful picks than any other GM in Bucs history. That;s not opinion, it is actual fact.
And for all the whining that he did not take James this year, it is nothing but a bunch of crybabies because Vea has not had the chance to prove himself on the field yet. For all anyone knows, Vea could be a Hall of Famer in the future, and James may not be.
Then where would all you James people be? Probably pretending you always liked the Vea pick.
October 6th, 2018 at 12:53 pm
And Michael Pittman? Seriously? The wife beating RB who only passed 800 yards twice for the Bucs and never even had a 1,000 yard season in his entire career? That Michael Pittman?
October 6th, 2018 at 1:01 pm
Rich McKay bailed? lol. He was forced out by Gruden in a power play and Pittman, name one Buccaneer who has more rushing yards in a Super Bowl.
October 6th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
• Joe Jurevicius only had one season over 700 yards, and the yards dropped off a lot in the other years. He was only healthy for 3 of 10 years and none of them were for Tampa.
• Warrick Dunn was only healthy for 2 of his 5 years in Tampa, and those are the only years he had 1,000+ yards for us. As soon as he could get out of Tampa he did, and had a better career with our division rival.
• Brian Kelly had one good year in Tampa…our Superbowl year.
• Michael Pittman? The wife beating RB who only passed 800 yards twice for the Bucs and never even had a 1,000 yard season in his entire career,
• Dexter Jackson had 3 or 11 good years. His best was for the Cardinals.
October 6th, 2018 at 1:07 pm
Jackson had 3 of 11 good years
October 6th, 2018 at 1:32 pm
How does anyone have confidence in the man-child? GTFOH
October 6th, 2018 at 1:37 pm
Zero playoff appearances=Zerp confidence bottom line. Put a consistently productive roster on the field then we’ll talk. Boy this dan base has become really complacent and the Glazers know it.
October 6th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
I was behind Licht, even with all of his blown high round picks. The 2018 draft is shaping up to be a complete bust with the exception of maybe Whitehead. He needs to go along with Derp and his buddy. Do it now. Please.
October 6th, 2018 at 1:43 pm
Buc Bonzai, with all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. You are wrong on every point. Mckay did not bail. When you have Hall Of Fame talent, you will take a cap hit. I can argue each and every point you list above but there is no use in doing this. You see what you want to see. Bottom line, I will take a SB victory with seven years of successful football and cap hell vs. a 24-44 record with cap space.
October 6th, 2018 at 1:44 pm
@Bonzai
That’s a delusional view, and a revisionist history.
BK only good for one year?
Nobody on that D was good for only one year..
October 6th, 2018 at 1:47 pm
We will never win a championship with him
October 6th, 2018 at 1:47 pm
One of my favorite franchise blunders though was sending Matt Bryant packing. How many problems would have been solved by keeping him? It’s just one big joke after another.
October 6th, 2018 at 1:50 pm
Brian Kelly had 4 productive years where his numbers matched Grimes in his prime: i.e, 4 plus interceptions and one year 8 and 2 years over 20 passes defended. Name a defensive back signed by Licht by who has anywhere near those numbers. Who has Licht drafted in the defensive back field other than Justin Evans? He’s dreadful at acquiring good defensive players. This year he tried to correct past mistakes by “beefing” up the d line but doing absolutely zilch to solidify the defensive backfield. Case in point drafting to corners one of which was expected to start but not signing another corner or safety. Then he gets rid of Kieth Tandy who actually played really well during the 5 game streak last year.
October 6th, 2018 at 1:52 pm
And why did they let Macdougal go?
October 6th, 2018 at 2:20 pm
BigMacAttack Says:
October 6th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
I was behind Licht, even with all of his blown high round picks. The 2018 draft is shaping up to be a complete bust with the exception of maybe Whitehead. He needs to go along with Derp and his buddy. Do it now. Please.
I voted little confidence as well but this comment above is just absolutely ridiculous. Whitehead, while I like him, has done nothing while Davis has held his own while being forced into starting due to injuries. Vea has been hurt how can anyone say anything negative at this point and Rojo still has a chance to be a good player as again IT HAS BEEN FOUR GAMES IN THIER CARRER. Dude get a clue and some time please. You must be like 16 cause your patience is nonexistent.
October 6th, 2018 at 3:30 pm
It is a shame that Mike Smith ruins the careers of a very decent GM and coach. The overall coaching staff is weak. Bring back coaches that can teach. The Dungy stag was so good that his replacement kept half of it!! Hands down McKay was the best GM in History of the Bucs. Licht is second. Can Brate is overpaid as is Grimes and Gholston. If you add up those three salaries, there would be money to fill holes. But LICHT has never fielded a complete team and the coaching stafff has never gotten the most of the pieces they do have. Kwon and LVD should be a force, but with bad coaching they are a farce. Same with the TE group.
October 6th, 2018 at 5:16 pm
Little confidence.
October 6th, 2018 at 5:40 pm
Jmarkbuc, That’s funny, because official NFL stats say the same thing.
October 6th, 2018 at 10:29 pm
I voted NO CONFIDENCE. Should have drafted Future Hof’er Derwin James! Needed safety help! Also had the chance to grab Harold Landry in the 2nd round. Imagine Derwin James and Harold Landry on this defense! Two Easy picks!
October 7th, 2018 at 8:33 am
Licht always seems to make a great trade to either move up or acquire picks but then screws up making the pick; even still, I was with him until now and now he is screwing up with his job on the line:
He makes the great move to trade down and aquire 2nd rd. picks getting back what he gave up for JPP but then takes Vea? Save the ‘you win with the DL’ talk! Everyone knows that but he committed plenty of resources to the line during the off season: JPP, Allen, Unrein and this is why you picked up those extra 2nd rd picks. Seemed to forget that the secondary needed fixing as well.
It lined up perfect; you traded back and Derwin James was still there should’ve taken him. Take a DT in the 2nd with your extra picks in the 2nd. Stewart was taken too high that could’ve been DT Nathan Shephard who you loved during the draft process. If you had gone James, Jones, Davis, Shephard; your draft is more balanced and you touched all your needs: SS, RB, CB, DT.
Did not go out and get Mack; I know that is asking a lot but never in this league do you get to acquire the best in his prime. What do you think would’ve been the results with JPP and Mack off the edges? I know the money, the cap!!!! But winning teams don’t let that hamper them they find a way and the answer was right there. Both McCoy and David are playing under their last year of guaranteed money; you could release one or both after this year or restructure, what the hell is the difference, you have never won with either. Once again I repeat, both the GM and coach jobs are on the line.
Finally, so you didn’t get James? I don’t understand it but fine. Guess what? Eric Reid is available and you probably can get him with a bargain. After the draft; no move, during training camp; no move! Ok, there’s rampant injuries in the secondary and guess who is still not signed? You got it Eric Reid! What’s this, the Panthers sign Eric Reid and then the Colts sign Breeland! Then, you have the debacle in Chicago with a bunch of rookies in secondary. It could’ve been avoided. Smith is bad but some this falls on the GM!!!
October 8th, 2018 at 9:19 am
Buc Bonzai-
• Brian Kelly had one good year in Tampa…our Superbowl year.
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Absolutely not true at all. Just because he had one year with tons of picks doesn’t mean he wasn’t a very good player for us all of the other years. Want to see how good Kelly was? Look at the first half of the Colts Bucs game in 2003… Kelly was healthy, Bucs were rolling. Kelly got hurt, Wansley came in and one of the biggest 4th quarter collapses occurred. Brian Kelly was an excellent player for us.
October 10th, 2018 at 9:23 am
I;m confident that Licht is not qualified.