Dungy To Jameis: Prepare For The Future
October 30th, 2018
Advice for Jameis
Father Dungy was on national radio this morning talking about the great disappointment he is certain that is being felt inside the walls of One Buc Palace.
And it’s safe to say Dungy knows a thing or two about the inner workings and feelings at Bucs headquarters.
Speaking on PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio, Dungy talked about the benching of America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, and not once did Dungy question the call. He gets the desire to play the QB who is playing better.
Instead, Dungy was more focused on how the Bucs are absorbing the fact they likely failed with a No. 1 overall draft pick, much like they did with Vinny Testaverde years ago.
Asked how he would advise Jameis, Dungy said he would make it very clear to Jameis that “31 other teams are watching” him now, including his demeanor on the sidelines. And Dungy said he’d tell Jameis to “prepare for the future” and implore him to realize how guys like Doug Williams, Steve Young, Testaverde and Trent Dilfer fared when they left Tampa.
Listening to the Hall of Fame coach, Joe felt like Dungy thinks Jameis will have a new address soon.
October 30th, 2018 at 8:58 am
Jameis’ NFL career is not over. But his time with the Bucs is coming to an end.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:01 am
its depressing. This franchise’s best chance to win is to develop a QB. The best odds of winning is to develop a QB and with Jameis they were unable to do so. Fitz will not be the answer. He is a turn over machine as well. So here we are 1/2 through the season and its lost and then we start all over again next year…….15 years since winning the SB and its the same old story……….Mike Glennon, Josh Freeman, Mcown, Winston………same old same old
October 30th, 2018 at 9:03 am
Williams, Vinny, Dilfer, Freeman, Winston.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:05 am
Well if anybody knows how to develop a quarterback it’s Tony Dungee LOL
October 30th, 2018 at 9:08 am
I say once we are out of the playoffs (next week??) then play Winston and see what he does for the rest of the season then make a decision. You can’t just bench him after this game and never let him play again. Obviously, Tampa is cursed with QB’s so it really isn’t Winston’s fault.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:08 am
TUA 2020 and there you go
October 30th, 2018 at 9:08 am
Bucs suck get a life
October 30th, 2018 at 9:12 am
My understanding is it will be foolish to play Winston at this point. He has a gurantee if he gets injured. So if we play him and he gets injured aren’t we on the hook for 21mil no matter what?
October 30th, 2018 at 9:14 am
I was thinking how our team’s defense will react in the future with JW on their schedule?
October 30th, 2018 at 9:14 am
So far the Buccaneers have not publicly acted hastily. There has to have been some discussions in the past about a situation like this coming along. They have to have some kind of plan in place in order to deal with this scenario. It only makes common sense from purely a business viewpoint. Maybe that is why Koetter has not said anything beyond how it affects our next game.
The Glazers have their bottom line regarding game attendance and keeping their fan base happy. They should have already taken these things into consideration. They probably already some kind of public relations campaign ready to go.
The question is, for Dirk, Jason and the Glazers, is this benching going to be enough of a shock for Jameis? Will this be the incident that finally wakes him up to reality and dramatically turns his career around?
A question for us as fans is has the door been left open for Winston to have one more chance or have we reached the point of no return? I truly don’t think that whatever the fan consensus or what professional commenter have to say in the immediate future has a direct bearing on the outcome in this case.
Kirk and Jason of course have their future with the organization at stake. Jameis certainly has his near term future at stake as well as repercussions for his long term career to think about, not to mention just the affect on his potential income.
Meanwhile, the fans can only watch how things unfold from day to day and week to week. This season in not quite over for us yet. I don’t know if it is time to “put a fork in it”. There is an outside chance that things will turn around for the team, though there is no evidence to support anything but a negative outcome for this season so far.
It would be almost a miracle for us to make the the play-offs based on what I see as our other problems and deficiencies. Nevertheless, I will continue to support the Bucs and I hope to see us pull off a big win over the Panthers.
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Go Bucs!!!!!!! No excuses!
October 30th, 2018 at 9:15 am
Who knows what will happen. The main problem is these huge QB contracts. Fitz is definitely not our future but can anyone honestly sign off on giving Winston at 100 million dollar deal after 2019?
If I was making decisions I would probably keep Winston through the entirety of his rookie deal. Bring in competition for next season and see who will start from there.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:19 am
I ask myself this question as a buc fan………..what is the point. Jameis Winston brought us optimism. The optimism that we would have a strong foundation to build around. The optimisim that if he could harness his talent and eliminate the mistakes this franchise could become something. That is now thrown out of the window. Fitz will fill a the gap of sub-par play. As much as I did not want Jameis (Mariota sucks too so I still cannot exactly say that they totally got it wrong in the 15′ draft) I really wanted to see him blossom as I knew his successs was the best chance we had to succeed. The worst case scenario occurred………..He played good enough to make you think he would become something prevent us from looking elsewhere……You want your # 1 draft pick to be Carson Wentz or Nathan Peterman……….at least you know what you got early.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:22 am
ive seen this movie before…..jamarcus Russell, christan ponder, ej manuel and now jameis Winston……all first round picks who were coached by jimbo fisher…..all bust….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
October 30th, 2018 at 9:22 am
JW should be traded today for a bag of peanuts. Playing him this year will risk injury and guarantee his huge salary for next year and of course create a cap mess and result in dumping other players. Licht should be the first to go followed by Koetter. This is what happens when you choose to ignore all the warning signs on and off the field. And yet the idiots at OBP are expecting JW to somehow magically change his ways. SMH! Man, us fans can’t catch a break!
October 30th, 2018 at 9:22 am
That is EXACTLY why we need to keep America’s Quarterback! Get him a coach and a Gm that know what the hell they are doing and a defense that doesn’t give it up like a cheap 10 dollar hooker and he will be fine! Mark my words if we give up on Jameis now I’m 10 years he will be playing for his third Super Bowl and we will still be playing for the first overall pick.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:22 am
The issue with Winston runs deeper then just his performance….which has been absolutely terrible. He completely blindsided the franchise with the Uber situation…He lacks awareness to see his teammates are tuning him out…He literally sucks the life out of the team when he’s playing….Its been made known publicly that on more then a few occasions, he’s not running the plays he’s told to run.
The Bucs simply can not build a team around a guy who has those traits…..He cant coexist with teammates or coaches. Maybe if he was the second coming of Dan Marino….then maybe you tolerate the other stuff….but he’s terrible on the field and killing opportunities to ever win. He may go on to have a decent career, but if you reward him here, that’s giving him the green light to continue his ways and there’s nothing there that you really want to continue.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:25 am
[Sorry Gene, referring to Bucs fans celebrating Jameis’ demise as living an alternative lifestyle is an automatic ban. — Joe]
October 30th, 2018 at 9:26 am
Funny how everyone is coddling and excusing this kid performance. Geez man, really!!!
October 30th, 2018 at 9:26 am
Trade Winston to any team available for 3 Big Mac Coupons
October 30th, 2018 at 9:26 am
813
JW is no bust….. He is a good Qb that plays for a bad team. Bucs are a losing franchise not even a Qb w a winning pedigree and Heisman can save it
October 30th, 2018 at 9:27 am
Bring Tony back as “Whatever of Football Operations”…between the G’Boyz and GM…GM would still make all the GM calls but would have strong input and another football mind to bounce ideas off of…..
October 30th, 2018 at 9:27 am
Fix your problems on some other team Jameis
October 30th, 2018 at 9:28 am
The Bucs could give Winston no better Christmas gift than to trade him. Send him to NY baby. Please please please trade Winston. Pretty pretty please.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:30 am
I think the best team for Jameis to go to is New England. There he can learn some discipline and keep his mouth shut. Hopefully Bill Belichick can teach him situational-intelligence and Tom Brady can help him with his accuracy.
They can do for Jameis what they did for Josh Gordon
October 30th, 2018 at 9:31 am
In regard to haplessness, all I can say is “Thank God for Cleveland.”
October 30th, 2018 at 9:37 am
I can’t wait for the Bucs to trade Winston & he becomes one of the best QBs in the NFL sooner after. I swear the Bucs can’t do ANYTHING right, even if it’s right in front of them.
This Fitz move is like having a side piece who’s amazing in bed for the 1st few months but you have your long term wife @ home that has all the qualities that you need to spend time developing (Jameis).
Jameis > Fitz (unless ya’ll think Fitz is a Super Bowl QB then this makes no sense) We are playing for Super Bowls not for playoff birth or finishing 3rd in the NFC South
October 30th, 2018 at 9:42 am
DB55 the Giants have one of the worst O-lines in football Jameis would get demolished there.
October 30th, 2018 at 9:45 am
You can believe that Buffalo is on the horn with Licht today
October 30th, 2018 at 9:56 am
Where ever he goes it will be a automatic better situation. Even if he entered the Browns. Bucs are destined to lose. ” Just lose, baby”
October 30th, 2018 at 10:00 am
So DB he can’t handle the Tampa media, some fans and DJack, but he will step right in behind the worst NFL online, manage the NY media and their expectations and Beckham? Lol are you delusional or what?
Winston was not voted a captain by his own teammates, his backup has a better repour with them if you just watch the game. Yet it’s the fans fault on that as well? I would be shocked if anyone traded for him. He needs to sit for a while and reflect, eat some humble pie and bounce back. If he can’t handle
the adversity he will never be a good
QB
October 30th, 2018 at 10:01 am
To be honest that is what scares me, we got Steve Young killed here and then let him go like he was the worst failure in the history of the NFL and look what happened. I think we should step back from the ledge with Jameis and see how the rest of the season develops. There are too many players that go on to have great careers after being dumped by the Bucs. The Bucs organization is so screwed up.
October 30th, 2018 at 10:06 am
What’s up with some of you guys !!! This is not about comforting JW, and protecting JW, this is about the bucs. Nothing personal with JW, good luck somewhere else.
He is below average QB. This is the best offense we ever had, and he can not utilize this.
He got tunnel vision; he through like he is pitching; an accuracy that is 50/50; been type 1 personality put him more then often on short fuse mode; he luck big time seriousness and love been a joker; and the worst is his character.
Good luck some other place buddy, don’t destroy our team.
Always when it come to QB I remind to myself Brad Johnson, an average QB with great character, good team behind, great defense = win SP.
Tony’s opinion is biased, he no longer is a fair/good football adviser, his number one importance now is social justice.
He is not, and should be not consider as Bucs future in any level of this organization.
Great family man, great heart, but here we are talking football.
Go Bucs!
October 30th, 2018 at 10:09 am
NOT A FAN OF JW. HOWEVER, THE PAST IS THE PAST AND HE HAS THE REST OF HIS LIFE. HE CANNOT ALLOW THE PAST TO DICTATE THE FUTURE. AND, THERE IS ALWAYS BASEBALL
October 30th, 2018 at 10:55 am
Simply Outstanding advice from my man, Father Dungy!! He knows and he knows this Bucs mngt and organization. He also knows what is one teams garbabe can , will and often does..turn into another teams treasure. I’m gonna LMAO IF..Jameis moves on and haunts the Bucs. Its gonna be Halarious…as it usually is when ex-buc players stick it to them elsewheres.
October 30th, 2018 at 11:01 am
Cmon Glazers. Hire this man as President of Football Operation and get the hell out of the way as he tries to once again turn around a LOSING franchise. He did it once before so at least he presents a ray of hope.
October 30th, 2018 at 11:07 am
I’m waiting for the Jamies Jock Riders to say that Dungy knows nothing about QBs because he couldn’t draft one while in Tampa…..
October 30th, 2018 at 11:09 am
Players and owners laugh all the way to the bank.
October 30th, 2018 at 11:13 am
lamarcus
we’ll see….same thing was said about Russell(raiders) and ej(bills)…..jamarcus, ej and ponder all went to other teams and all had the same results…..bad qb’s……
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
October 30th, 2018 at 11:16 am
Honestly I don’t think they’ll go back to Winston. I’m sensing they really want to give Ryan Griffin a shot if Fitz fails in Carolina. I watched Griffin closely in pre season and he looked confident and efficient. He’s been in the league 5 years why not give him a try?
October 30th, 2018 at 11:22 am
Great observation jere TonyC!! Everybody forgets about Griffin. He shows signs of maybe being..the Man if given opportunity. I still do not think Jameis is quite done yet. Maybe in Tampa. But he might do well for another coach..another offense. Steve Young, Trent Dilfer and Doug Williams all left the Bucs and did very well. jameis has what it takes. Sometimes though..a change is needed. if it were me, I’d fire Koetter and bring in a diff HC. But the Bucs have never thought outside the Box. I’m with you on giving Griff a shot though. Why mot?
October 30th, 2018 at 11:27 am
Would know all about this stuff- remember Oct 1999, coach? The Bucs were 3-3 and couldn’t score points to save their lives. Plus that season opened the single worst QB performance many of us had ever seen and may ever see in our lifetimes- looking at you Trent Dilfer.
So what did Tony do? He turned the keys over to Eric Zeier and declared him the starter for the rest of the season. Zeier was pummeled during a Sunday Night Halloween horror-show against the Lions and the Bucs lost 20-3. Dilfer returned to the line-up the following week and we rolled off 6 wins in a row (3 with S. King after Trent fractured his collarbone). Save debacle in Oakland, the rest of that 1999 season was magical, thanks to a generational D. What happened to Trent? Well, he was booted (and managed to find his way to a Super Bowl win) and we rolled with King until Brad Johnson came around.
I think what frightens me the most is that fast forward nearly 20 years and we’re in a similar boat- a #1 draft pick QB whose accuracy, ball security and overall on-field decision making continuously hurt his team–though in this case, he’s surrounded by a generational O (not D). Like Tony’s team, we’re turning to a journeyman (though Fitz is more accomplished) to try and save the day. Will Fitz only last a week, like Zeier? Who knows?
But I can’t help but shake the feeling that unless Fitz is the second coming of Rich Gannon, we’re back on the QB carousel….Dilfer, Zierer, King, B. Johnson, R. Johnson, Griese, Rattay, Simms, Garcia, Leftwich, Freeman (that’s a whole other post), Glennon and everyone in-between.
October 30th, 2018 at 11:28 am
I think Jameis really wants to be traded and his play is an example of that.
October 30th, 2018 at 11:43 am
The next team will not have the weapons he has hear.
October 30th, 2018 at 12:03 pm
Winston arguably performed better without all the weapons.
I can’t help but think that the best thing for Winston would be to go to a team where he could lay low for a year or two, repair his mind and body, and learn to play the game the right way without pressure to be the focal point of the offense. Ideally, that situation would be here, but we do not have that luxury, nor do we have a fanbase that will tolerate it after the last four seasons.
Winston needs a fresh start.
As for the bucs, it will be interesting to see what happens with Fitz. the guy is the ultimate journeyman QB, but you cannot deny how well he has played this year. A lot of JW supporters have pointed out his poor first half against the Steelers, but that’s just football. When he has been in the game, Fitzpatrick has been one of, if not, the best QBs in the League this year. You hate to throw away the “future” by getting rid of Winston, but I am not sold that Fitz is not the near future, at the very least. He could very well become this Generations Rich Gannon and give us two or three exceptional years behind Center.
Either way, both Winston and the Bucs are better served with a divorce. As a fan, that makes me sad to write.
October 30th, 2018 at 12:16 pm
If Winston goes somewhere else and balls out, dirk and glazers look like an idiot. He’s not going anywhere this, season t not like they have any pro bowl lineman and Fitz could get injured
October 30th, 2018 at 12:22 pm
Unfortunate as of now, 4 hours of trade deadline, there are not even rumors that any team is interested on JW.
That is bad news for BUCS.
October 30th, 2018 at 12:39 pm
tonyc
I agree…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
October 30th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
Of course no one is going to trade for him, why would they when they could just wait for him to be cut and not stuck with a 20 million salary for next year?
This is pretty simple guys. Jameis will be on this team for the rest of the season.
After that… who knows?
October 30th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
If I’m the Glazers, Jameis needs to be wrapped in bubble rap right now……no need for a collision on the sidelines or a slip in the locker room shower……that $21 million could be Jameis’s last opportunity for a big payday
October 30th, 2018 at 1:23 pm
Jameis will be sent away from Tampa and will win an SB on another team. I’m sure.
October 30th, 2018 at 6:02 pm
Jameis is not going to win anything. They should get rid of him ASAP. I burned my $100.00 Jameis jersey in the back yard after Sunday. If they put this clown on the field again, they are the losers. Call it a day and move on folks.
October 30th, 2018 at 8:34 pm
What grown man burns his own property…sheesh, some wear stupidity with pride.
October 30th, 2018 at 8:35 pm
Well, Freeman was out of the NFL quickly after he left Tampa. Vinny, while he had a long career, sucked most of the time he was in the league. Dilfer won a SB because the 2000 Ravens defense might have been the best of all time. Doug Williams was an average QB. Steve Young was the biggest what could’ve been of all.
November 4th, 2018 at 10:23 pm
The issue with Jameis is that he has not been properly coached out of the interceptions. All of his numbers support an NFL starting QB except for the turnovers. A change to a coach and staff that has a plan to fix it, is the right move. If the Rams had believed Jeff Fisher. Goff and Gurley would have been sent packing, but Fisher is fired and McVay comes in, improves the line, calls plays to the QBs strengths, and they have the best team in the league. The Glazers should hire a defensive HC, and a top tier OC. Give Jameis his one year at $20 million, invest in a RG and RT, a veteran safety, another LB, and see what happens. If it doesn’t work out, then get rid of Jameis. Jameis has had turnover issues under Dirk his whole career. A new voice and approach will probably yield great results.