Defining A No. 1 Running Back
October 16th, 2018
Joe has noticed a faction of Bucs fans that doesn’t consider Peyton Barber a No. 1 running back, and these same people get agitated when Joe refers to him as such.
Yes, Barber is a No. 1 back, but what does that mean at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters?
Well, it means the guy is a legitimate starter in the league. It doesn’t mean he’s a Pro Bowler or the Bucs shouldn’t look for better. However, considering Barber is 24 years old and clearly on the rise, it means the Bucs should feel good about having him as their No. 1.
Twenty-five NFL running backs are averaging 12 or more carries per game this season. Barber is 20th in that category at 12.6. Of all those running backs, only six —SIX! — have more rushes of 20-plus yards than Barber. Fifteen of those 25 full-time backs have a higher-yards-per-carry mark than Barber’s 3.7 per game.
Barber is pass blocking well for what might be the NFL’s top aerial attack, and he’s proven he can catch balls thrown his way in the checkdown game, as well as protect the football.
Back to those 12 carries per game, Joe’s cutoff for a full-time load, Barber’s career average is 4.03 yards per carry in the eight games he’s gotten 12 or more carries.
The Bucs’ No. 1 back is solid and should improve. Don’t hold it against Barber that Ronald Jones isn’t in his league yet.
October 16th, 2018 at 2:06 pm
Joe,
Outside of Winston and Evans do the bucs have a TRUE number one at any position group? Fair Question considering the results. Evans and Winston are the only 2 on the entire roster that would be guaranteed number ones on any other team in the league. jpp is not a top 10 much less a number one on a contender…. 2 out of 53 is exactly why this team resides in the comfort of the nfc south basement year after year after year…. but never fear no one loves a low ceiling mediocre player like bucfan….
October 16th, 2018 at 2:08 pm
The only reason he is a #1 rb for the bucs is the fact that there is a GM that is incompetent and clueless when it comes to building a team, he has passed on legit nfl rbs in the draft and through FA. Barber gets some yards against the 31st worst defense doesnt make him a legit NFL #1 back, the bucs need the same things they have needed the past 4 off-seasons and licht has yet to address them aside from JPP
October 16th, 2018 at 2:08 pm
Agreed. Well said.
October 16th, 2018 at 2:12 pm
Barber is an ok back. I watched Kamari against the Bucs and he has elite breakaway 0-60 speed. By that I mean when he was cornered he could put it in another gear and zoom away from tacklers. Barber does not have that. He is just dependable, does everything ok but not great. Bucs were hoping Jones had that but that ship is leaving the dock.
October 16th, 2018 at 2:14 pm
I think Barber is solid. Problem is touches IMO. It was a strange combo the first few weeks were we were doing so well passing we kind of forgot to run the ball. Our attempts per game are some of the lowest in the league….
October 16th, 2018 at 2:19 pm
Peyton Barber “America’s Running Back”
October 16th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
Where is Calvin Cook? LOL
October 16th, 2018 at 2:26 pm
Realist,
What is the word on the street? I miss you man!!!!!
October 16th, 2018 at 2:26 pm
Licht bashers say some of the most ignorant things Ive ever heard! Our GM doesn’t know how to build a team… these people must really be missing the days of Leftwich, Freeman, Glennon, and McCown; now those were offenses put together by football geniuses!
October 16th, 2018 at 2:27 pm
Realist…….estas perdido.
October 16th, 2018 at 2:28 pm
Bucs3 is on point!!!!!
October 16th, 2018 at 2:30 pm
Bucs3 what is the record of this team during the licht tenure? Playoffs? oh thats right they are 24-48, he is doing a great job and this team is no where near winning a playoff game as when he started.
October 16th, 2018 at 2:31 pm
i said it before and i will say it again:
give barber 22 totes a game…
simple…22
October 16th, 2018 at 2:34 pm
I like him and think he’s got real potential. Keep in mind he’s running behind a line that has an absolute open door policy at RG but I think he run’s hard and is good in pass pro. They just need to commit to the running a game a little more which is hard to do when you can’t stop anyone.
October 16th, 2018 at 2:41 pm
no problem with Barber in tow….it’s the turnover machine, WinSTUNNED!
October 16th, 2018 at 2:45 pm
24-48 maybe the defensive schemes had something to do with it.
But seriously I think is the stadium. We need a new one. Just saying’
October 16th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
If any of you watched the brilliantly written if poorly acted and directed Spartacus series, the writers used a neat trick. They created a different version of English–which gave us the feel of being in a different time and place, somewhere didn’t even exist while still allowing us to watch it in English.
People who specialize in predicting where the language is heading talk rate natural (collective) plurals as the third most likely change (behind splitting infinitives and a be verb indicating equality). Faction to me is a natural plural and I want to write “…faction of fans… don’t” instead of “faction of fans…doesn’t.” Same thing for words like faculty, team, family, etc.
Still, I’m wondering if they aren’t totally wrong. Is it possible that the language will actually devolve instead of evolve because of Microsoft’s spelling and grammar flags, the little red and green markers which are frequently wrong on grammar and have a fifth graders vocabulary in terms of spelling? Just last night I used the word disaggregate in some instructions to subordinates for today’s data runs. Word flagged it and I wimped out and changed it to dis-aggregate.
And if anyone is wondering, Joe’s grammar is totally correct under the present rules of American English.
October 16th, 2018 at 2:51 pm
And on the Number 1 running back, Barber is one to me. He had a great game running and he was even better in pass pro.
Did anyone notice that we ran some pretty creative running plays? I had joked that we only seemed to have one running play through the first four games. There was the Jackson run, some counter action and even a toss sweep.
Clearly, people at One Buc are listening to us.
October 16th, 2018 at 3:15 pm
Howard and Brate would be starting TE’s on many teams.
October 16th, 2018 at 3:20 pm
The Bucs offense is elite. There is no denying that.
The defense is atrocious and unfortunately there is no denying that either.
October 16th, 2018 at 3:24 pm
Realist….are you in the cooler (if so, you can’t answer)…..or by any chance are you Mike Smith…..or simply an athletic supporter for Mike Smith?
October 16th, 2018 at 3:51 pm
I am the Ghost of Realist Past,.. you may call me “REALISMO.” Ask me anything…
October 16th, 2018 at 3:56 pm
Just don’t run him outta town till he can get 4 more TD’s this season. I have a lot of money riding on him.
October 16th, 2018 at 3:59 pm
” Evans and Winston are the only 2 on the entire roster that would be guaranteed number ones on any other team in the league.” ROTFLMAO!!!
“… guaranteed number ones on any other team…” smh
Evans… maybe… maybe. I will concede that the entire Buccaneer receiving corps (WRs and TEs) would very likely be welcomed on every ” team in the league”, but after that we’d be lucky if half the teams would consider Buc players as “guaranteed” replacements.
The team is a mess, and it’s not the GM, not the coaches, and not the players. It’s *all* of them.
Unbolt the front bumper, and replace the rest of the car.
October 16th, 2018 at 4:15 pm
@ Jim
OK, what did the Realist call the bulk of posters he disagreed with?
I’ll give you a hint……it starts with a S and rhymes with Jeep.
October 16th, 2018 at 4:27 pm
Before the season I compared this passing attack with what Dan Marino had back in the 80s. He never had good running backs, they were just guys who would get like 800 yards a year and fill the role, but they weren’t what anyone would consider a #1 RB.
That’s Peyton Barber, he’s on pace to get just under 800 yards rushing, and no one considers him a #1 RB. Yes, he’s #1 on this team, and I personally think he’s serviable, which is why I also said taking Ronald made no sense when you had Chris Conte starting and badly need a starting safety, but when you’re passing for close to 5000 yards on the season, which is the range I figured they’d be in, then why do you need a true #1 RB?
If the Bucs want a true #1 RB then they should trade for Bell. He can catch the ball as well as anyone and obviously he’s a very very top tier RB, if not the best RB in the league. They could either sign him or tell him they won’t tag him again and that seems to be good enough for him to play. When your defense is giving up 34 a game, the best way to beat that isn’t trying to fix that issue but instead is to try to score 40 a game.
Anywho that won’t happen because Licht is Licht, and it’s the same guy who thought Ryan Smith and Chris Conte would be good starters.
October 16th, 2018 at 4:42 pm
FYI. Martino released, back to the Ramada Inn
October 16th, 2018 at 4:49 pm
Here you go, Barber is Sammie Smith, 1990 with the Dolphins:
1990 – 831 yards, 3.7 yards per carry, 11 receptions, 134 yards, 9 total TDs.
Barber, projected for the year…
736 yards, 3.7 yards per carry, 19 receptions, 118 yards, 3 total TDs.
So yeah, Barber is slightly behind Smith, but I think he’ll make up the difference before the end of the year.
October 16th, 2018 at 4:51 pm
REALISMO REPLIES “SHEEP”.
October 16th, 2018 at 4:53 pm
I wonder if Freddie Martino gets paid by the hour……or, maybe he hauled in a week’s pay for his recent signing/release
October 16th, 2018 at 5:08 pm
@ Jim
So…I guess that settles it…..you are truly the Realist….now….tell me who the worst GM in Buc history is…..I’ll give you another hint…
It starts with D and rhymes with ominick….
October 16th, 2018 at 5:15 pm
I case you have not been here long. Realist copied the Sheep saying from someone else. So he just thinks he is a master at it. Most of of us ignor him anyway.
October 16th, 2018 at 5:23 pm
Are you saying that Realist *is* the sheep? lol
October 16th, 2018 at 5:29 pm
JPP is not top ten please
Although not a McCoy fan he is a starter on most any other team
DJax
Brate and OJ
Come On there are great players on this team
Some changes need to be made
Also Did anyone see Barber run this last game
Oh and Truck the Bird
October 16th, 2018 at 5:33 pm
After watching the game last night, it occurred to me why teams have more success at running than the Bucs. At first, I thought it was the play-calling. To a degree, yes. We are non-committal. Then I noticed this strange formation where there was a guy in front of the RB who blocked for said RB. “What is this strange looking position?” I thought.
Suddenly it occurred to me. We once had a player like this who blocked for the RB. His name was Lorenzo Neal. I had to Google him, the intrigue was unbearable!
Eureka! A FULLBACK! What is this strange position and why don’t the Bucs utilize one?!
It dawned on me. We’re a “passing league!” This position is not allowed, that formation, not allowed.
But wait! Why did two no-name backs from San Francisco have so much success? Did they not get the Memo?! Did San Fransisco receive exemption? Have others received this exemption? It’s a passing league, darn it! The commentators say so.
Don’t fret fellow JBFers, I intend to get to the bottom of this matter! After all, could this “Fullback” be the missing ingredient in an otherwise pedestrian rushing attack? Could Barber gain 1,000 yards behind this mysterious and, clearly frowned upon position?
To quote one of JBF’s famous posters, “WTFDIK?”!!!!!!
October 16th, 2018 at 5:54 pm
Who cares about 1000 yards rushing when you can throw for over 5000 yards? The Packers are literally using a WR as their leading RB. Progress with the times or get left to history. The idea that the Bucs HAVE to run the ball to win- well they ran it on Sunday and lost. Maybe if your defense was middle of the pack having a run game would matter, but it’s not, the Bucs top priority on every drive should be scoring points, and instead dummy Dirk is punting from the opponents 36 in a shootout.
October 16th, 2018 at 6:06 pm
Great, Bucs have a running back that ranks #20 out of 25. Matches up perfectly with the latest BSPN team ratings, Bucs are #26 out of 32. Both ratings are in the bottom 20% of their categories.
Sure hope being in the bottom 20% of ANY category Joe is not an acceptable position and MUST be improved. This article would be a good lead in to another article as to why the Bucs should be talking to the Steelers about trading for Bell. How about an article. Though Jackson is a top-notch receiver, he and Jameis are just not connecting and the Bucs have at lot of depth at WR already, so why not offer Jackson and a 2nd round pick to Pitt for Bell, especially since Licht hasn’t had great success with 2nd round picks anyway?
October 16th, 2018 at 6:19 pm
@Rod
“and instead dummy Dirk is punting from the opponents 36 in a shootout.”
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You do make a valid point, it seems Dirk plays not to lose rather than play to win. For instance, Super Bowl winning Head coach Doug Pederson, I believe, leads the league going for it on fourth down. Even on his own side of the 50 no-less. Riverboat Ron has always been known to gamble and be successful. You can’t play scared when you need at least a 30 spot to win most games.
October 16th, 2018 at 6:23 pm
@ Bucsfanman
Not sure that the 49ers are helping your case. They are 1-5.
The Bucs (and others) have used TEs for their rhino package with enough success, that it will probably continue. It’s a ‘passing’ game for now, and having another ‘receiver’ is a better option.
October 16th, 2018 at 6:24 pm
Rod- A 1,000 yards is not important, I’ll give you that. BUT, when your defense is dead freaking last at just about everything, wouldn’t it be prudent to maintain time of possession?
AND, the Packers DID run the football. It’s not an anomaly. I challenge you to show me the games where Jameis threw the ball more than 35 times and won. In the 13 games he played in 2017, only twice did he win games throwing over 35 times. In 2016, our 9-7 season, out of the 9 wins, only ONCE did he throw more than 35 times.
Now, tell me how “unimportant” it is to have balance, a run game.
October 16th, 2018 at 6:25 pm
I’ve heard on Ira’s podcast by one of the two Joe’s or Ira himself state that Barber was not a starter and in fact he was a 3rd down back at best. Something like on any other team he’d come in on passing situations only… I know y’all will argue back at me and deny what I wrote. Bottom line he will never have a better game then he did Sunday and being that he ran against a bunch of scabs on defense ain’t saying much.
October 16th, 2018 at 6:35 pm
Hawk- As a team, no. They’re rushing attack, however, looked way more fluid than anything we’ve fielded. Baltimore also utilizes their FB to success as do other teams.
Having a FB allows for the RBs to run routes while they protect the QB. It’s not as archaic as it seems. FBs are also allowed to catch passes.
It was just a thought anyways. The league is cyclical, I guarantee we’ll see the return of the run-game once defenses figure out how to stop these historic passing numbers.
October 16th, 2018 at 6:43 pm
Just 4 more TD’s …our lightweight offensive line are just not road graders. And it seems whenever they do open a hole there’s always a LB at the point of attack. Our line is so slow to the punch and usually get stood up at the line of scrimmage. Although they may excel at pass blocking at times, their run blocking is a non factor.
October 16th, 2018 at 7:29 pm
He’s a solid back you can sign at a reasonable extension….You cant have Pro Bowlers at every position….particularly on an offense that pretends to have a franchise QB.
October 16th, 2018 at 7:45 pm
Sad state of affairs for Buccaneers “Fandom”. And I am pointing my fingers at most of you.
Just sad. I understand the disappointment as I attended Every home game from 76 to 96. Several afterwards as well. This said a great deal of you are Johnny come lately’s and you are disgracing our fanbase even worse than I ever could have thought. I understand you wanting to voice your disappointment with YOUR team and that is your Right as a fan! But to go SO over the top with your criticism and smear people is UnAcceptable!
Don’t know what you do for a living but I GUARANTEE that NONE of you are in the top 1% of your profession.
Do you have a fanbase? How would you fare against the Top 1% of your profession?
This is just a perspective check for some of the narcissitic “fans” with blinders on.
October 16th, 2018 at 8:09 pm
So Peyton Barber is the Bucs number one RB
So they spent the 38th draft pick on a Number Two RB
Way to go Licht
October 16th, 2018 at 8:14 pm
Barber makes the team one-dimensional. He has not taken over any aspect of the game. He fails to be a threat. When they handed to Barber inside the five you knew the drive was over. He has been unable to run out the clock on numerous occasions.
The Bucs went into this season riding Super Bowl aspirations while sporting a suspended QB, a 35 year old No. 1 CB and an undrafted No. 1 RB. This website championing this approach in the process. Did you expect the fans to be excited? The Bucs are wasting a historic offense with serious mismanagement. It is strange to watch helpless as a fan of the circus. A vexed fan of a juggernaut of bad decisions is hard to win over. Just ask post-1994 MLB.
October 16th, 2018 at 8:17 pm
@SB
Very well-stated and bravely said….most who demean others do so to prop themselves up.
I have often wondered exactly what kinds of fans some are…..I realize it it a natural thing to like some players better than others and perhaps even root for some to succeed instead of others…..but for me, being a fan means you root for every player and coach as long as they wear the uniform…..sure you can and should be disappointed and eventually fed up (like most were with Mike Smith) but the disappointment shouldn’t give a person a license to berate an entire team. Losing is difficult….but as we have seen, temporary. We did win a Superbowl…..a feat 10 or 11 other teams have never achieved including 2 in our division.
I hope we dig out of this hole….regardless if Barber is good enough to be a #1 elsewhere, he’s our number one for now…..so lets wish him well.
October 16th, 2018 at 8:28 pm
Thank you TBBF.
I am upset with our team as well but I am not going to come here and call names and belittle others in My disappointment .’
C’mon guys. Most were predicting 0 and 4 in the first four games. We were 2 and 0 you were ALL ON Board!
You gonna jump off at 2 and 3???
As far as Barber goes.
Season Is Over Says:
October 16th, 2018 at 8:14 pm
Barber makes the team one-dimensional. He has not taken over any aspect of the game. He fails to be a threat. When they handed to Barber inside the five you knew the drive was over. He has been unable to run out the clock on numerous occasions.
Well this is interesting as when you are typically behind at least three scores you Don’t Run The Ball
Hence the 12 carries per GAME……….Jeesh
October 16th, 2018 at 8:33 pm
https://www.buccaneers.com/video/jameis-winston-touchdown-pass-to-peyton-barber-bucs-vs-falcons-highlights
I must say I am impressed with JW3’s eye movement in the end shot of this clip
October 16th, 2018 at 8:37 pm
Just posted a link that Joe will probably let through in a bit.
It had the Peyton Barber TD pass and the most impressive thing to me were the last few seconds where they focused on Jameis’ eyes and you saw him make 5 reads!
Good $hit right there!
October 16th, 2018 at 8:40 pm
Wish we could pry Wade Phillips away but Alas!
He Loves where he is at.
October 16th, 2018 at 8:41 pm
SB – Don’t let it get to you. There are interesting opinions sprinkled in with nonsense. Generally, the other stuff makes me chuckle. I really find it difficult to believe that some actually really believe the b.s. that they type. Anonymity breeds false bravado.
Stay classy SB! Lol!
October 16th, 2018 at 8:54 pm
Got it Bucsfanman.
Not singling anyone out. All good here. Just wish people would express disappointment without all the subterfuge and badgering. Disappointment is one thing, expressing it is another which is a Right. Just the way some people do it is disappointing. Quarter way through the season and the Fanbase is becoming dis-joined? Just sad.
GO BUCS!
October 16th, 2018 at 8:58 pm
@ Bucsfanman
You are right (cyclical), and a few teams will always be the last to change, and a few others will be the cause. Right now, the Bucs have the receiving talent to score a *lot* of points through the air. While they have that kind of talent on the roster, they need to be taking advantage. If the passing threat is high enough, teams will keep 8-9 in the backfield. That will open running lanes. If the threat is not serious enough, the Bucs will need a world class RB and O-line.
I hope they hurry up and do one or the other.
October 16th, 2018 at 9:00 pm
Only thing wrong with Barber is he doesn’t have lightning speed. Down hill runner that can get through holes and blocks well. If he had just a bit more speed he would of been able to take that long break away to the house in ATL.
KOETTER’S ALWAYS OBVIOUS RUN PLAYS AND OBVIOUS RED ZONE RUNS CAN’T HELP PB NUMBERS OUT EITHER.
October 16th, 2018 at 9:02 pm
I love Barber’s tenacity; he turns most runs into positive yardage after first contact with a defender. Yet, because they drafted a RB (Jones II) in the second round, it seems to me that the Bucs front office is not sold on Barber being a bell cow and probably want a back-by-committee approach. It’s just not working out so far. All of the rookies so far (and a lot of second and third year players for that matter) are still “developing”. That’s just not good enough, if you want to win now.
October 16th, 2018 at 9:03 pm
All hail SB the legendary moderator who passes judgement on all who dare to comment even though his own comment is nothing but self righteous BS. It’s even in the name SB = BS
October 16th, 2018 at 9:08 pm
Doctor Stroud
exactly …and every single one of us knew this going into the season. We were bound to have growing pains.
October 16th, 2018 at 9:12 pm
I’ve always liked Barber since his first preseason. RG is now #1 priority on offense.Let’s see what Barber can accomplish behind dominant RG instead of steamy bottom of the dumpster pile Benenoch.
October 16th, 2018 at 9:12 pm
I’ve always liked Barber since his first preseason. RG is now #1 priority on offense.Let’s see what Barber can accomplish behind dominant RG instead of bottom of the dumpster pile Benenoch.
October 16th, 2018 at 9:15 pm
Barber is good with me.
He is although my fantasy back
Needs to add a few more moves than the one cut everyday move. Maybe it could be adding another cut. But I’m pleased with Barber. Has a mean truck stick that’s sneaking and fun to watch (when it happens).
Still better than Doug Martin.
October 16th, 2018 at 9:18 pm
Benenoch is struggling mightily. He’s getting beat often and I think we’d be better off with Evans, or Liedtke starting
October 16th, 2018 at 9:35 pm
Bucsfanman, totally agree! So many people are so brave online. People want to say GMC is soft and weak. Bet none of those fools would say it to his face if they had to step in the ring with him..
October 16th, 2018 at 9:38 pm
I am entitled to my opinion just as everyone else Jean.
Heard your Ship was found recently in the Galveston area. Congrats 🙂
October 16th, 2018 at 9:40 pm
Lamarcus Says:
October 16th, 2018 at 9:15 pm
Barber is good with me.
He is although my fantasy back
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Lol one of my best friends picked Barber up right before me because I took LeVeon Bell with the first overall pick]
Double Whammy on me. Bell has gotten me Zero points so far. Also, he is not reporting this week. SMH
October 16th, 2018 at 9:41 pm
Said Friend is a life long Steelers fan.
No Edit button so ……….addendum.
October 16th, 2018 at 9:48 pm
Why is everyone missing the fact that this is Barber’s third season in this offense? If Barber is so amazing why is he allowing Rodgers to even see the field?
October 16th, 2018 at 10:34 pm
Barber has been uneven this fantasy season and really no tds from him. Primary use him cuz he is a featured back.
October 16th, 2018 at 11:00 pm
Bucsfanman – The best rushing year in team history was 2015, when the Bucs had the top duo in football, and they went 6-10. I’m not saying the running game isn’t important, I’m saying it’s not THE most important thing like it was in 1977. The Packers use the pass to open up the run – also the Packers are complete decimated with injuries at WR so they ran it more, but they were out of the game until they started to pass. Also what I was saying is that they care so little about their running game they have a WR as their back. Running the ball to run the ball makes no sense. In week one the Bucs got early yards running the ball BECAUSE the passing game opened up the field for the RB – and the late carries killed Barbers average, but that was because Dirk got scared and shut down the offense. However with this team, with these WR’s and TE’s, there is no reason to just run up the middle on every first down, it makes no sense. Throw the ball, then mix in the run to keep the defense honest, but teams still act like it’s the other way around.
As for the running the ball because the defense is terrible – I think that’s a horrible idea. The Bucs defense is so terrible if they’re not scoring on every offensive drive, they’re basically out of the game. Yes, a three and out stinks, but what also stinks is being in 2nd and 9 on every series because you just run up the middle because you need to establish the run.
I don’t think we’re on completely different pages here actually.
October 16th, 2018 at 11:06 pm
Trench War – Yes, that’s exactly what I’ve been saying about Dirk since he first became head coach and watched him throw hissy fits on the sidelines, or sit on a 3 point lead like he had the 2002 Bucs defense. The guy coaches scared AND I think he’s scared of the media, or other coaches, calling him dumb for making a “bad” call, so he does everything by the book. The biggest example is that Pittsburgh game, with 3 mins left, the defense hasn’t stopped the Steelers at all, there is 0% chance you’re getting the ball back if you punt, Fitz has over 400 yards passing and the Steelers defense is terrible, and on 4th down he punts the ball away, and of course the game is over. There’s no way the Eagles HC is punting the ball there, he has a feel for the game and isn’t worried about being called dumb post game, instead he’s trying to win the game. Dirk ALWAYS does what the coaches handbook from 1957 says you’re supposed to do, he never deviates from it, he plays it super conservative and super close to the vest. His 1970s Air Coryell offense can put up yards, but putting up yards doesn’t mean he’s not super conservative – and people mix those things up and think if you have yards, you’re not conservative. Dirk proves that idea wrong.
October 16th, 2018 at 11:06 pm
Mike in LOL Says:
October 16th, 2018 at 9:35 pm
Bucsfanman, totally agree! So many people are so brave online. People want to say GMC is soft and weak. Bet none of those fools would say it to his face if they had to step in the ring with him..
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All they’d have to do is dress up like a QB and he’d apologize to them
October 17th, 2018 at 12:09 am
@Hawk- I’ve posed a similar question during the last few games.
We need to run it out of shotgun formations more often. Especially because we are so lethal in the passing games. Our running game struggles when they have 7 or 8 guys in the box AKA running from the I formation or similar running formations. The teams with the best offenses are ones that are creative and confuse the defense. We don’t seem to try to do that very often at all, or either side of the ball.
October 17th, 2018 at 1:15 am
Rod
“The guy coaches scared”
“he plays it super conservative and super close to the vest.”
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I just want to add this as well, when Koetter makes these ultra conservative calls it’s like he’s saying he has no faith in Jameis or maybe he’s over protecting him. I guess that summation could be biased considering what side of the QB debate your on, but either way if Koetter would allow Jameis to be the hero once in awhile it could help with his confidence as he continues his development. It’s not the time to play ultra safe when your down by a TD with time running out.
October 17th, 2018 at 5:06 am
Barber is a decent enough runner, just not sure about all the others. We need to raid some practice squads or swing some deals with other clubs. First place I would start is in Chicago…..Ryan Nall is a 6”2’ 235lb power back with good hands out of the backfield. There are also rumors Jordan Howard may be available for the right price. Either of these 2 guys is easily better than any of the backups we currently have in Tampa!
October 17th, 2018 at 5:40 am
Rod- Fair point and we aren’t far apart in opinion at all. That’s why I mentioned San Francisco. Their play designs were very successful.
I get that we’ve got crazy weapons, but the thought of putting the ball in the air 40 times a game scares me, turnover wise!
October 17th, 2018 at 9:17 am
Barber is a serviceable back certainly not an elite #1 back. He’s adequate, won’t see any break away runs with this guy. Barber is miles ahead of our great 2nd round pick Jones who can’t even seem to get on the field.
October 17th, 2018 at 11:58 am
gambelero Says:
October 16th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
If any of you watched the brilliantly written if poorly acted and directed Spartacus series, the writers used a neat trick. They created a different version of English–which gave us the feel of being in a different time and place, somewhere didn’t even exist while still allowing us to watch it in English.
People who specialize in predicting where the language is heading talk rate natural (collective) plurals as the third most likely change (behind splitting infinitives and a be verb indicating equality). Faction to me is a natural plural and I want to write “…faction of fans… don’t” instead of “faction of fans…doesn’t.” Same thing for words like faculty, team, family, etc.
Still, I’m wondering if they aren’t totally wrong. Is it possible that the language will actually devolve instead of evolve because of Microsoft’s spelling and grammar flags, the little red and green markers which are frequently wrong on grammar and have a fifth graders vocabulary in terms of spelling? Just last night I used the word disaggregate in some instructions to subordinates for today’s data runs. Word flagged it and I wimped out and changed it to dis-aggregate.
And if anyone is wondering, Joe’s grammar is totally correct under the present rules of American English.
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Don’t know what exactly you’re referencing but in a caption in a pic on an earlier article on Chuck Pagano, his word usage was very poor, “Mike, I would have come to help you but I’m way to busy with…”
So, yeah, not exactly poor grammar but the word usage is far from perfect. I taught English for 13 years and I still make occasional mistakes as well.