Big Day But Still Bad
October 23rd, 2018
What a steal.
The Bucs had a helluva pass rush on Sunday, but still the team stinks getting after the quarterback.
The Bucs racked up five sacks. It was the most sacks the Bucs had in a game since they terrorized Stuart McClown and the Jets last year at the Den of Depression.
And the Bucs have a defensive end who is on pace for 16 sacks. That still weirds Joe out typing that.
Still, that kind of production isn’t good enough. Per BSPN’s NFL Matchup, the Bucs are one of the worst teams at getting pressure on quarterbacks. Only the Raiders and Bengals are more allergic to getting pressure. The Bucs pressure QBs on 23.5 percent of dropbacks.
Joe suspects with more games like the win over the Browns, that percentage should climb.
October 23rd, 2018 at 3:55 pm
New Scheme = More results.
We just better not let this Kwon injury follow us to the Bungle Jungle like it did in the 2nd half of last weeks game. If it does, we’re gonna be in trouble.
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:00 pm
What do the first two teams on this list have in common? They both have 100mil dollars 3techs. Smh. When will people learn? I scream, You scream, We all scream MCICECREAM
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:10 pm
Now Licht need to go steal Patrick Peterson.
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:12 pm
The Browns ROOKIE QB had a passing rate of 104.4
There’s nothing to brag about here
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:19 pm
somewhere, @realist is still blaming lovie……
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:19 pm
Last week against the Chargers
Baker Mayfield had a passing rate of 52.6
This is one of the reasons
I’m not sold on this defense
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:25 pm
The reason we were able to get 5 sacs is because we played our rookie corners press man this causing the QB to hold the ball longer than usual. Carlton Davis balled out and the DLine got pressure WITHOUT McCoy…..mhmm…who else here thinks we should trade McCoy for Leveon Bell other than me?
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:26 pm
screw what the coaches are saying about spence….put him in!!!!!….cant be any worse…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:33 pm
trade GMC to the raiders for keleche osemele….that’ll help the run game and the passing game….bell wouldn’t do sh!t behind this line….plus gruden loves old players…..
or trade a 5th to the JAGS for dante fowler……
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:34 pm
@813
In pewterreport’s write up they had a few plays selected and the only one I saw with 57 in there was one in which he got pressure that was part of a Nassib sack.
@Lakeland
Knowing you didn’t watch the game it’s hard to have much of a debate. I don’t think any of us thought the D was elite or anything. But what I saw was a MUCH more competitive unit that wasn’t giving up easy big completions all day as they were the prior games.
We got to a 2-3 record with the WORST defense in the NFL. If our D can be sub par / closer to Avg it’ll be huge. Our offense wasn’t clicking on all cylinders a all and we still won just because our D was actually more average than horrifically bad. If the offense can click and the D just play mediocre-ish it’s a formula to win a lot of games.
I’d rather take giving up a 104 rating than the likely perfect 150+ ratings we gave up to guys like Trubisky, Ryan, and others. QBs were averaging completion % in the upper 70s against us lol
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:42 pm
Lakeland.
Qb rating of 104 when theyve averaged 130 in the first 5 games. Thats improvement. They dont take into account the 5 sacks either. He prob had a qb rating near 0 at halftime. Nobodys sold on this defense but it had a hell of a better chance now. The play caller does not like predictability. What a concept.
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:44 pm
Lord C
Yeah that’s true
The 104.4 is a major improvement
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:46 pm
Looks like the Bengals are right there with the Bucs. Would be nice if that trend continues for them Sunday.
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:55 pm
@813bucboi Leveon Bell would do much more than Peyton Barber is doing and he would help the pass game because the defense would be hesitant of letting someone like Bell run all over them. Have you noticed when Barber runs the ball he tries to be shifty and when RoJo runs it he hits the first hole he sees and takes off? Leveon Bell is the combination of both,he’s shifty and can break tackles and make players miss and when he hits an opening he takes off with authority.
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:56 pm
Hargreaves and a second round pick should be enough for Peterson.
October 23rd, 2018 at 4:58 pm
LC
I have a feeling duff will get good use out of him…..I just cant believe how far he’s fallen since having 5.5sacks as a rookie…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:03 pm
813bucboi
Noah Spence was a ‘reach’, everyone was saying the Bucs needed a DE
Michael Thomas should have been the pick
VH3 was a ‘reach’, everyone was saying how much the Bucs needed a CB
Laremy Tunsil should have been the pick
Teams shouldn’t reach for a player, based on need
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:04 pm
941
no doubt bell is a better RB….but he wont be effective if there’s 2 dlinemen in the backfield everytime he gets the ball….and folks harp on Winston and his TO’s but some are due to pressure right up the middle….we secure the oline, then everything else falls in place….
I think if we’re patient, we could get bell next year when he’s fresh and motivated….he’s only looking to get paid and stay healthy this year….
last thing we need is a elite RB with a lousy oline that will get him and Winston killed….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:08 pm
Bucs sign MLB Kevin Minter.
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:09 pm
Lakeland
I don’t think they were reaches….just haven’t been coached up and are playing in a scheme that doesn’t suit them…..
when we drafted spence, the info coming out of OBP was that we were going to run/show some 34….that never happened….he’s playing out of position….
when we drafted VHG, he was considered the best pure cover CB that excelled at man press…..smitty forced him to play off…..
its simple….put players in position to be successful and play to their strengths and watch them develop into elite players…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:11 pm
**Noah Spence was a reach for a 4-3 defensive team**
**If a 3-4 defensive team drafted him, it would make sense**
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:12 pm
joe in your opinion, i mean i’m asking ya’ll, would it not make sense for jason to go after peterson i mean damn we need him don’t we?if they honestly think there still in the hunt and have a shot why not go get him? please one of ya’ll joe’s enlighten me, you guys know a hell of alot better than i do
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:21 pm
I think Kevin Minter was out of the league last season
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:23 pm
He played 9 games with the Jets last season
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:24 pm
**I meant 9 games with the Bengals**
October 23rd, 2018 at 5:58 pm
@813bucboi if there is 2 dlinemen in the back field then you kick bell out to the side and dump it off to him or you make them pay and throw it down field. This ain’t rocket science. Ever heard of a pass option play? Ever heard of Jameis having runs of 10+ yards? Cause other teams have and when you play a QB like Winston you play on your heels because this offense is unpredictable and if you add a RB like Bell it opens up your playbook in so many ways.
October 23rd, 2018 at 6:04 pm
One player that has jumped.oit to.me is Nassib….I.may have spelled that wrong. Think we got him after he left Cleveland. Dude has jimped.off.the screen the last two games with more.opportunity..He needs.to.be on the field more
October 23rd, 2018 at 6:58 pm
Where are all the MF’s at that cried wolf whenever I blasted Geraldine McBooty for licking BALLLLZ? Their argument was that he never had help. What’s your excuse now? Double digit sack guy and he still softer than Charmin.
October 23rd, 2018 at 7:17 pm
Lakeland great comparison, the bucs defense is still weak, a couple good parts but overall bad and again licht had chance to build a solid defense but is incompetent as a GM, kevin minter was a stud at LSU but must be reason he isnt on a team
October 23rd, 2018 at 7:20 pm
Lakeland, Buc boi,
How do you evaluate players transitioning from college to pro’s if they’ve never played the position that you project him to play? Spence , in you guys opinion, is better suited as a LB , what is the basis for your opinion?
Side note, did either of you believe the team should select Marcus Davenport in the draft?
October 23rd, 2018 at 7:35 pm
I saw our corners actually making physical contact so the wide receivers at the line of scrimmage and just like that…..5 sacks.
Wow, wh.woukda ever thought that tighter coverage would give the qb less time to avoid a sack. Definelty not Mike Smith that’s for true
October 23rd, 2018 at 7:47 pm
Bucs sign MLB Kevin Minter
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This guy is better than anyone we got at mlb. He might actually be a real mlb go figure.
October 23rd, 2018 at 8:13 pm
DI
I didn’t think they should have drafted Marcus Davenport
I thought they should have drafted Derwin James
October 23rd, 2018 at 8:17 pm
DI
It wasn’t just me
Most of the draft experts had him as a 3-4 OLB
October 23rd, 2018 at 8:31 pm
And the Raiders are the worst. Man, what Gruden wouldn’t give to get his hands on a premier edge rusher, I bet.
Oh, wait…
October 23rd, 2018 at 9:03 pm
Question
Is it a coincidence that the beat two games for the Offense this year where when Jamies was not there
The best Defensive game was with GMC in the bench
Funny
Our Two Elite Players positively affect the game when they aren’t in the game
October 23rd, 2018 at 9:56 pm
^^^^
Atrain if that’s the case the players play good during certain circumstances than we have a bunch of unprofessional NFL players that has no business playing “professional” sports or anything professional.
If my wrs are bitching because they can’t play with a Qb then bench you go. And the defense steps up because GMC is not there than bench u go and I will find someone who will
October 23rd, 2018 at 10:49 pm
What happened to the Bears having a good pass rush? They’re just a tad better than us. Hmmmm….
October 23rd, 2018 at 11:03 pm
Hey!
We won at the house!….we got Swagg!
Big change (Defence Co)……We answer with Swagger.
Bengals face a team breaking out, ….and with big guns
We got Aces ….and Aces to play!
Sorry Cincinnati… if we kick the cat….. outta the house : )
October 23rd, 2018 at 11:55 pm
Hey William Walls
News flash, Noah Spence ISNT EVEN ACTIVE for most games & u r gonna pawn him off to Gruden? What for a 7th round pick? Just because Spence was drafted by this inept personnel depart doesn’t mean he is worth it. We r talking about a team that moved back into the 2nd round for Aguayo. This org drafted Daquan Bowers in the second round. This team drafted Arielius Benn in the 2nd Round. This Org traded a 2nd round pick for a freaking TIGHT end! Remember Kellen Winslow Jr? So guess what? Noah Spence is a freaking BUST!!! Just Sayin
October 24th, 2018 at 8:39 am
D1
if MD feel to them sure…..at OSU spence bounced around from DE to OLB but he rarely dropped into coverage…..
with that said, that’s why the scouts get paid….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!
October 24th, 2018 at 11:38 am
I still say Carr for Winston. Change of scenery would do them both good.