Vernon Hargreves Is Out For The Season
September 12th, 2018
Damn, this sucks for the Buccaneers’ first-round pick in the 2016 NFL Draft.
The shoulder injury suffered by Vernon Hargreaves late in Sunday’s game at New Orleans will knock him out for the season.
He’s done, headed to injured reserve. That’s the buzz at One Buc Palace and Annie Sabo of Buccaneers partner WFLA-TV has reported the news.
That a brutal break for the Bucs. Optimism for a Hargreaves revival this season was flowing inside the walls of One Buc Palace.
Vernon Hargreaves, still just 23 years old, forced a key fumble against the Saints and that came a couple hours of general manager Jason Licht showered him with praise during a pregame chat on the Buccaneers Radio Network.
Minutes before kickoff in the Superdome, Licht was asked to name one Buccaneer he was looking at in the game to deliver big things. Licht did not hesitate. “Vernon Hargreaves.” It was the second time Licht lauded Hargreaves in the interview.
Licht emphasized how much he and coaches believed Hargreaves “has grown as a player and a person” on and off the field through the 2018 offseason and training camp.
Whatever you might think of Hargreaves, he was the Bucs’ No. 2 cornerback and he was a bright spot in a battered secondary on Sunday.
Now what?
Well, this is why the Bucs are sniffing Bashaud Breeland.
September 12th, 2018 at 12:44 pm
Mike Smith has to revamp the D on the fly. With Hargreaves gone and Grimes out for a while, he need to go man to man and bring the house on every play. No more of this off coverage. The rooks are better suited for man any way.
September 12th, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Unfortunate, but i think it’s time to move on from VHIII, inconsistent and injury prone.
September 12th, 2018 at 12:48 pm
Damn!
September 12th, 2018 at 12:49 pm
Time to move on from Grimes, fo sho….
He and Miko looking at bonus year this year….
September 12th, 2018 at 12:51 pm
FIRE!
FIRE!
Fire!
September 12th, 2018 at 12:52 pm
The GM better find TWO serviceable CBS in a hurry
…… Maybe trade??????
September 12th, 2018 at 12:53 pm
“Tough break for VH3 and I was very surprised how well he plays the slot. His skillset mix of physicality and getting his hands at catchpoint was quite impressive. He seems very comfortable and natural in that tight middle of the field compared being alone outside on an island
sunday, VH3 looked somewhat like hybrid corner/saftey Barber/Matheiu getting in the mix/around the ball
Kobe was definitely impressed
September 12th, 2018 at 12:55 pm
why does the thought of Whitehead being on the field in some capacity give me comfort? I feel like he can help. Throw the three rooks out there together and let’s play ball.
September 12th, 2018 at 12:58 pm
Fartman thanks for telling me my son is out for awhile, did he or Koetter give you this information?
September 12th, 2018 at 12:58 pm
Bucs brought back Will Clarke to fill the spot.
September 12th, 2018 at 12:59 pm
He has basically been out the past 2 seasons but its unfortunate for him going fwd and evaluate whether he is worth hanging on to
September 12th, 2018 at 1:00 pm
time to move on from VHG?…..you’ve got to be kidding…..lol…..
he was just about to turn the corner….he had great coverage sunday and made a great play forcing that fumble….
he’ll be our #1 cb next year…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
September 12th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
JPP banged up his knee and is unsure if he’ll play Sunday. Per PFT
September 12th, 2018 at 1:06 pm
Explains the Will Clarke signing
September 12th, 2018 at 1:10 pm
Definitely sucks. Now the Bucs only have 1 final year on his rookie deal to evaluate Hargreaves before having to decide if he’s worth paying a big 2nd contract for.
5th year option is available in 2020 since VH3 was a 1st rd pick – but the 5th year option will not be cheap.
Rookie CBs are going to have to step up and “develop” while they play.
Stewart will take over the inside spot on “nickle” downs – and Davis will have to contend with the likes of Antonio Brown and Julio Jones all season.
We need Brent Grimes back ASAP – otherwise, Ryan Smith will be starting as well…
September 12th, 2018 at 1:14 pm
And we let McDougald walk who just got 2 picks in his first game of 2018 with the Seahawks.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:15 pm
Keanu Neal and now VH3, I hate this, these are my boys
September 12th, 2018 at 1:17 pm
Our best options now are putting Davis and Stewart on the outside and J Evans in the slot with Whitehead and Conte at Safety. They all have talent just let them learn together and gel. By the end of the year we will have a great secondary if they all mature together plus a lot of trust in one another.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:20 pm
Once the Glazers let VH3 walk he’s gonna go to a team that’s gonna use him properly and he’s gonna turn into a star, I guarantee it.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:21 pm
The Bucs brought back Will Clarke because JPP might be out against Philly.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:22 pm
Possible opportunity for Jordan Whitehead at corner? Kid is a great athlete and playmaker?!?!?! Also, possibly activate Jones and use him ala the seahawks did with cj procise and the pats do with white/burkehead splitting them out wide and in the slot. Or get Wilson snaps on of offense in that role as he. Is the better pass catcher currently….we need to replace DJax’s speed this week…………..although with the eagles defense fitz will have to get rid of the ball quickly so less deep shots but that is where rb at receiver comes into play.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:23 pm
I’m calling this week the Buckner game…
He talks it, let’s see if he gets his guys to walk it.
JPP got hurt in the first series in NO, and now he’s down already?? Sheeesh.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:24 pm
Here’s an idea: TRADE OUR FIRST ROUND PICKS FOR PATRICL PETERSON OR SOMEONE SIMILAR SINCE WE CANT DRAFT.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:24 pm
Whitehead needs snaps at nickle!!!
I guarantee he can handle it!
I told you, Honey Badger 2.0.
FS/Nickle/CB.
And we need to stop playing zone defense!!
Man up! Press and attack. F these weak zone defenses!
September 12th, 2018 at 1:35 pm
Sucks. Just when he might have turned his game around.
However, they have never been able to rely on him. MJ Stewart will be fine at slot.
Sign breeland now and let him play Sunday. Better then Ryan smith
September 12th, 2018 at 1:36 pm
Mark right on but licht of course is a disciple of the patriot way which as soon as they leave foxboro tend to suck on their own
September 12th, 2018 at 1:39 pm
Let’s see. Davis at 1 outside corner, with Stewart at the other & Whitehead at nickel. Three rookie CBs all learning together against the Super Bowl champs, with minimal pass rush because our DLine is banged up & a LB corps that had its’ own issues in Game 1. What could possibly go wrong? Thank heaven we still have Scapegoat Smitty to use as a human piñata in Bucsville.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:46 pm
Sad ,he seemed like he was coming on and had played well preseason and start of game. He only had one bad year but Buc fam don’t believe in development.
How quick they forget Rhonde Barber was toasted for 2-3 years. Lynch also , he was about to go play baseball.
Takes time people that’s how we got Super Bowl roster by developing and resigning
September 12th, 2018 at 1:46 pm
Defense Rules do not forget that all american that licht picked up as a safety ryan smith who is now at corner or i guess on the team
September 12th, 2018 at 1:49 pm
@Fartman … “Mike Smith has to revamp the D on the fly. With Hargreaves gone and Grimes out for a while, he need to go man to man and bring the house on every play.” Guidance like that is precisely why you’re a fan and not a DC Fartman. That’s akin to telling a young heavyweight boxer going against Mike Tyson to hop in the ring “and just flail around for awhile; knock him out before he knocks you out”. NOT very realistic guidance going against the heavyweight champ. “Run Forrest Run” would probably be a lot more appropriate.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:49 pm
Bad news because what “depth” we might have had is now non-existent. The rookies are going to have to step up. Such is life in the NFL!
September 12th, 2018 at 1:57 pm
Wow! After one game and the Bucs are riddled with injuries. Will they make it to the end of the season?
September 12th, 2018 at 1:59 pm
VHIII had a lot to prove this year. We will never know now, for this season at least, if he was going to deliver. Praise from a coach or a GM is BS as they very rarely talk negative about a player.
September 12th, 2018 at 1:59 pm
Dusthty … Oh you mean our most experienced CB, Ryan Smith? The one with 1 year of CB time behind him after spending 1 year working out at Safety? THAT Ryan Smith? In actuality Dusthty, Ryan Smith is probably very much like Bradley McDougald … decent ‘measurables’ (height, weight, speed, quickness, etc) but not ready-for-prime-time in a year or even two after being drafted. But with enough patience, guys like that can turn into excellent team contributors over time. Not unlike past Bucs like Earnest Graham & yes, Keith Tandy. Guys like that might not become perennial All-Pros, but neither do the vast majority of players in the NFL.
September 12th, 2018 at 2:09 pm
I understand numbers game and that licht drafted smith but thougt tandy was abetter guy thatn smith but what do I and the falcons know……team needs solid backups that can play when asked like you stated mcdougle who i though was getting better and tandy who i thought played that nickel or flat safety when he was in but im just a guy who roots on a team that hasn’t wins only when they change their unifor colors, which they need to do
September 12th, 2018 at 2:16 pm
Too bad – looks like he was going to have a breakout year.
September 12th, 2018 at 2:17 pm
How did Grimes pull his groin reaching for the remote?
September 12th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
If you actually know anything about football and also watched the game, Hargreves had a great game. I was excited for us all. Now this. Hope he can give the Rookies some words of wisdom.
September 12th, 2018 at 2:37 pm
yes, VH3 seemed to be coming into his own. By the way – WHERE IS VITA VEA???
By the way, did anyone else see earlier in this comment thread where Deborah Hall (Grimes’ mother) throw shade on the notion that Grimes will miss time?
@Joe- can we get some confirmation on that post somehow?
Never know who you’re going to run into on these boards – use the Golden Rule – BE NICE!
September 12th, 2018 at 2:51 pm
Like they say, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. He will be back and pick up where he left off next year. This is the NFL. Now about that Breeland guy…..
September 12th, 2018 at 2:58 pm
HOW DOES LICHT JUSTIFY NOT SIGNING BREELAND AT THIS POINT? WE NEED HIM TO CONTEND FOR THE WILD CARD SPOT THAT’S THERE FOR THE TAKING WITH NY AND DALLAS BEING TERRIBLE. WE GOT 8 MIL IN CAP SPACE WHICH WHAT HE WAS ASKING FOR, MAKE THE BASE LOWER AND THROW IN SOME INCENTIVES WE NEED THIS GUY
September 12th, 2018 at 2:58 pm
folks pulling out the excuses for smitty all ready……lol….so smitty only knows how to coach the starters huh?…..
well, the starters gave up 40points, I guess it cant get much worse…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
September 12th, 2018 at 2:59 pm
Yeah let’s give this KID 2 years to be the next Deion Sanders. Cmon guys, have some patience. Oh wait In todays world if there isn’t instant gratification we want nothing to do with it….smh
Go Bucs
September 12th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
After watching his locker room interview after the game I had the impression he was hardly hurt at all. Must be some really good pain meds? Thanks for the tease VHIII. Get well, and I hope these new rookies will be warriors.
September 12th, 2018 at 3:08 pm
John if you get drafted in the first 15 picks you should be nfl ready after 3-4 years in the minors, and he is playing corner, cover the WR in front of you, he isnt playing LT or QB, where there should be some patience
September 12th, 2018 at 3:08 pm
Terrible news… Our rookie duo has been on the fast track since training camp and they got a humble welcome to the NFL experience last week. This week they get a little lesser competition. Last week they (especially Davis) played hard and weren’t exactly awful. Jordan Whitehead might give up a play or two but he’s very capable of making a few as well. Here we go.
September 12th, 2018 at 3:10 pm
Shoulder injuries don’t always hurt, but when you raise your arm they can be very painful and limit your range of motion to almost zero. This may be why he wasn’t displaying pain during his interview.
September 12th, 2018 at 3:12 pm
unless you mean our #1 slot corner, i think that’d be a bad idea. the slot is the best position for VH3.
September 12th, 2018 at 3:12 pm
Crazy how if Licht wouldn’t have made that first round trade and snagged the two rookie CBs they’d really be screwed. Good call. Vea should be back at some point 😂
September 12th, 2018 at 3:19 pm
Hargreaves has been a part of some of the worst defenses in NFL history. This is most likely a benefit to the team. Everyone fawning over one fumble from Sunday cannot forget the prior years of ineptness.
September 12th, 2018 at 3:19 pm
Who cares? Hargreaves was a liability. The rookies can’t be any worse than him. Ryan Smith on the other hand…
September 12th, 2018 at 3:22 pm
Hey Lake,
Amazing what a competent playcaller can do to an offence
Saints gameplanned against Fitz with Klueless as playcaller and got MONKED. Their DC had no idea what Monk was going to call
Is Sark going to make it half the season up there?
September 12th, 2018 at 3:49 pm
Anyone heard about them possibly bring back Robert Mcclain???
September 12th, 2018 at 3:54 pm
BIG TRADE needed for PRIME TIME CB!!! I didn’t want to resign Grimes after last year, and what do you know, he’s out with a serious injury before week one. VH3 has always been injury prone and has never shown amazing ability in past seasons.
Secondary:
S:J.Evans (2 years), Whitehead (R), Conte(smells)
CB: CD3(R), MJ(R), Smith (dog poop in a dumpster 100 degree day), Elliot (Hell No), Harris(Not a starter).
D-line made secondary suck last year. Now secondary is going to make d-line suck this year. MAJOR ACTION MUST BE TAKEN! WE CAN SIGN A TOP VET CB AND POSSIBLY HAVE A GOOD SECONDARY FOR YEARS IF OUR ROOKIES CONTINUE TO CLIMB UP THE LADDER.
September 12th, 2018 at 4:08 pm
Hopefully when he comes back next season he doesn’t have that weird hair
September 12th, 2018 at 4:28 pm
Cursed.
September 12th, 2018 at 4:43 pm
Kobe,
When they showed Monken in the booth and said that he was calling plays from the booth. I knew then this wasn’t the Koetter Bucs, I never like Koetter as a playcaller. Not even when he was OC for the Falcons. The Bucs actually has a chance to win the division with Monken calling the plays
September 12th, 2018 at 4:52 pm
Kobe,
I believe Steve Sarkisian will survive the season. Matt Ryan stinks against excellent defenses. So his poor performance against the Eagles defense was expected. He may struggle next week against Carolina, but after Carolina the schedule favor Matt Ryan.
Saints
Bengals
Steelers
Bucs
Giants
Redskins
Browns
Cowboys
Saints
Ravens
Packers
Cardinals
Panthers
Bucs
I expect Matt Ryan to feast on some of these weaker defenses ( like he always do)
September 12th, 2018 at 5:03 pm
I believe Vernon Hargreaves was on the verge of a breakout season. Bummer.
There is no need to move Jordan Whitehead. We have other CBs to step in. Davis and Stewart are the future. Vernon Hargreaves is young. He can return next year. Grimes has a groin injury, but will return at some point.
Plus a CB was just signed. Things are not as bad as they seem. Everyone seems to be in panic mode.
September 12th, 2018 at 5:07 pm
SOEbuc, the only player we have worth trading is Desean Jackson.
Here’s a though…find a just retired free agent who can still play.
Revis is out there isn’t he?
September 12th, 2018 at 5:14 pm
unless you mean our #1 slot corner, i think that’d be a bad idea. the slot is the best position for VH3.
no….man press bump and run is his best position….have you notice how well he’s playing up at the LOS…..hum, wonder why
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
September 12th, 2018 at 5:21 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai,
That was a huge win for the Bucs
They took me by surprise
They fought for 4 quarters and never quit
Congratulations to them
September 12th, 2018 at 5:25 pm
Highly confused why people are sleeping on Foles. It’s absurd- Super Bowl MVP not so tough? Makeshift secondary- better score 50 again
September 12th, 2018 at 6:07 pm
@NDOG
I was having the exact same thought. I think you are spot on!
The only exception that could change that for me is if we sign Breeland but then we’ll have another starting CB.
I think you’re correct and I’ve even heard talk that Evans did prepare a bit in case they needed him at corner.
Godwin is my absolute favorite but Evans is not far behind. After watching him for 17 games I see lots of talent…and he hasn’t really reached anywhere near his max yet. He’s just going to get better and better. The old coach’s plea….MAKE A PLAY. Evans has that innate skill of being able to make plays.
And as for starting the rooks outside…let them learn under fire…it will be painful at times but by the second 8 games of the year as you suggested we might have a really tight, tough back four. I have high hopes for Whitehead’s growth.
But for me the bottom line hasn’t really changed. We need the front seven to ball out…big time…for the back four to have a chance no matter who plays there.
September 12th, 2018 at 7:08 pm
Mierde!!!
September 12th, 2018 at 8:03 pm
Licht needed to laud VH3. he wasted a 1st round pick on the chump and is trying to shine whatever light he can on him. BUST.
September 12th, 2018 at 8:24 pm
ronteco, a bust is someone who completely fails in the nfl. Hargreaves succeeded, just not at the spot expected.
Sort of like if Tim Tebow had been willing to play at RB. If he’d succeeded, would he have been considered a but because he wasn’t a QB?
September 13th, 2018 at 11:30 am
Smith and Davis outside and M.J. Stewart in the nickel, with Elliott as the 4th CB. Evans or Whitehead as emergency CB’s. At least until Grimes comes back.