Scrambling Jameis
August 2nd, 2018Bucs fans in attendance today at the indoor practice hut behind One Buc Palace may have received a glance into the future of the 2018 season.
The Bucs were practicing a red zone offense. Based on last year’s results, practicing the red zone offense should be a high priority.
Receiving a snap with the ball resting at about the eight-yard line, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, went back to pass. He went through his progressions. Looked and looked and looked some more and then took off for a touchdown.
The way the Bucs struggled scoring points in the red zone, this play made Joe smile. It also prompted a thought: Why doesn’t Jameis run more, especially in short yardage situations? It’s not like he can’t.
Joe thinks two things are at work here. One is, the Bucs didn’t need Jameis to run much. The team moved the ball between the 20s pretty well. It only seemed to bog down in the red zone.
The other reason is that normally Jameis protects the football about as well as a labrador puppy would protect a bank at midnight. Jameis is borderline reckless when carrying the football. He sometimes treats the ball like it is infected with the Zika virus. So the less Jameis runs, the better.
It has gotten to a point, however, that in the red zone, the Bucs need to be more concerned with scoring touchdowns than Jameis playing Santa Claus. If the Bucs need six points and Jameis can accomplish this by running, by all means, run Jameis, run!
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:33 am
This is something that I have been scratching my head about for years. You have a 6’4 220-230 lb. QB and need a yard, why wouldn’t you use him in this situation? I swear, it feels like we are the least QB sneaking team in the league! WTF?!
I can understand the concern with ball security though. JW looked like he had vaseline on his hands last year!
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:33 am
They should be doing a sh1t load of red zone work lol.
I’d like to hear of new play designs being used or emphasized down there. Rub routes / quick slants/ quick screens / or getting Howard on a LB in the flat type sh1t. High % easy execution for the QB.
Find a way to create an obvious mis-match for a 5-10 yard pass – that is how you should attack the red zone – or by finding a way to will your way in using the run game. 8 rushing TDs each of the last 2 years is about as bad as it gets in the league.
More 2 TE sets where we can shift players around for a mismatch while also keeping the D honest whether we are going to run or pass. We could probably run a ton of plays out of that same formation using motion/etc. Just perfect that sh1t.
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:36 am
When Jameis runs, he looks like Joe Cocker.
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:36 am
The craziest thing is Dirk being too stubborn to QB sneak at the goal line or other short yardage situations.
Jamies is plenty big enough to push the pile for a half yard.
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:38 am
I might be wrong, but I don’t recall him being a bad ball carrier with the football. Most of his fumbles come when he’s in the pocket and he gets hit. Ever since Josh Freeman this team has been afraid to let their quarterback have that extra dimension. I say let him run a couple times a game to keep the defense honest.
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:43 am
maybe because he’s a QB and should be throwing the ball, quarterbacking WR’s, telling them the holes in the defense…..
but hey, let him run and get KTFO
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:43 am
Let Bernie Mac run in the red zone….just have him hold the ball with both hands.
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:44 am
I’d rather see him run then pass
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:48 am
The “real” fans would like to see some accurate on time throws so WR’s and TW’s could actually get some YAC and even score before the redzone!!!!!!!!!
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:48 am
Robert- Brady QB sneaks ALL the time and he’s the GOAT! He shouldn’t be playing football if we’re going to worry about getting him hurt. Sometimes defenses are just going to sniff plays out. Go make a play. That’s what the “greats” do.
….Or, maybe we should bubble-wrap him and give him a “participation trophy”?!
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:49 am
LMAO! “Bernie Mac”!!!
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:49 am
Joe Cocker? Bernie Mac?? LMAO !!!!!
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:50 am
Longest run for TD….2 yds……why not Jameis?
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:51 am
“When Jameis runs, he looks like Joe Cocker.”…………LOLLLLLLL
that said…it is not good that Jameis takes the snap on the goal line and has to look…and..look…and look….
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:58 am
He should absolutely be running the ball!!! I take Joe’s point about #3’s lack of ball security but that exists whether he’s running or passing…he simply needs to protect the ball better. Perhaps running would actually improve that awareness.
Whatever it is a genuine skill set #3 possesses. When I first saw him play at Tallahassee I had two quick thoughts….this guy is as slow as an offensive tackle and it doesn’t seem to matter…he’s really slippery and a great intuitive runner.
Worry about getting him hurt? He can get hurt anytime and as he’s clearly proved this year he can miss games without even getting hurt.
Gotta take our best shot…run Fameis run!
August 2nd, 2018 at 11:58 am
sorry bucsfan, i missed where it was a planned qb sneak.
my bad.
August 2nd, 2018 at 12:13 pm
Robert- I don’t know if that’s the play Joe is describing. I was just making an observation that we rarely sneak the ball.
All good though. I can understand not wanting to get him killed!
August 2nd, 2018 at 12:19 pm
Pretty easy to run for a touchdown when you’re wearing the no-hit jersey that quarterbacks wear in practice. I am more apt to go with the suggestion that he forgot his progressions and just ran. He forgets his progressions just like his transgressions. I am surprised he’s not blaming alcohol for forgetting his progressions.
August 2nd, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Jamies was great at running for TD’s as a rookie, but the coaches have told him not to run the past two years.
Dirk has said in press conferences they pay him to pass the ball and the running backs to run it.
August 2nd, 2018 at 1:37 pm
^^This is why Dirk sucks as a coach, IMO. He can’t adjust his thinking, even if something has been proven to work. The fact he doesn’t have Jameis do QB sneaks is just plain stupid, IEO (this means IN EVERYONE’S OPINION, LOL)
August 2nd, 2018 at 1:40 pm
Offensive football should be simple: You do whatever it takes to score & WIN. Bucsfanman nailed it when he said Brady does it all the time (he’s 85 for 95 on QB sneaks to convert 3rd-and-1 or 4th-and-1 BTW in his career … not too shabby). Jameis rushing yardage has gone down every year for 3 years. So did Josh Freeman’s for his last 3 years. (Bucs record went down with it). Do whatever it takes to win.
August 2nd, 2018 at 1:41 pm
Jameis has always been good at scrambling for yardage. Get’s down field fast and knows when to slide/get outta bounds. Should’ve been doing more in the past. And Jameis will hold onto the ball on the run, it’s when he get’s slammed in the back behind a dog sh!t o-line that makes him drop it. Hopefully that will change this year.
August 2nd, 2018 at 3:04 pm
Jameis rushing yardage has gone down every year for 3 years.
and yet folks praise this staff for being guru’s….lol….dirk doesn’t want his QB’s to run….in order to win, sometimes your QB has to run….and even catch(see foles)….
mr coach my scheme dirk wants players to play in his system the way he wants them to play…..
Winston will be unleashed next year when buckner is the HC….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!
August 2nd, 2018 at 3:11 pm
It seemed like he figured out when to run late last season to keep the chains moving and keep defenses honest, so I hope he continues to do that as needed rather than forcing things if they are not there.
August 2nd, 2018 at 3:12 pm
Bucfanman, have you seen us try to run a sneak play? Its absolutely ugly dude. Thats why we dont run it cause we are awful at it. Maybe they can can get it going with Jensen at C.
Dirk hasnt been able to figure out 3rd & 1 since he got here. Fans seem to forget just how important 3rd & 1 is. You could argue they are the most important plays in the game.
The fact that Dirk hasnt provided us with a short yardage offense in 3 years makes him a pretty crummy coordinator IMO.
August 2nd, 2018 at 3:19 pm
JIMMY
BINGO!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!
August 2nd, 2018 at 3:35 pm
JimmyJack- Boy, you ain’t lying! Perhaps with Barber getting an opportunity we might see better production. It’s mind-blowing that we cannot convert these short-yardage situations.
August 2nd, 2018 at 4:07 pm
The Bucs were practicing a red zone offense. Based on last year’s results, practicing the red zone offense should be a high priority.
Like a few hours each and every practice.
August 2nd, 2018 at 6:05 pm
When America’s Crotchgrabber And Liar has the ball in his hands for too long is when he commits his turnovers, mistakes and bonehead plays. Koetter needs to get the ball out of his hands quickly
August 2nd, 2018 at 6:13 pm
Rogers run all the time. Let him run the ball when he have to. Let him move the chains.
August 2nd, 2018 at 6:23 pm
BrainBucs. You don’t know football. What do youthink Rogers do , wentz, Dak,Wilson, . They win by any means necessary. The bucs don’t. I don’t care about a quarter back running when he has to for like 3rd n 3 or 5 if no one is open let Winston run some Times for those shart yards. Just like Rogers, and the others do move the chains. That means less ints n fumbles . He fumbles in the pocket all the time . Remember the falcons game and 2015 20 yard run that’s why we won that game.
August 2nd, 2018 at 7:11 pm
Short yardage situations have more to do with your offensive lines than your QB or even OC. You can have Adrian Peterson in his prime but without any push from the line there is a great chance he will be stuffed for little or no gain.
August 2nd, 2018 at 7:15 pm
Winston runs like Joe Cocker? Frikin Hilarious
Winston ran 4.9 at the Combine but he ran 4.6 on his way out of Publix
August 2nd, 2018 at 7:17 pm
Oniel
All of the folks you mentioned are a lot more athletic than Winston and think much better and faster under pressure
August 2nd, 2018 at 10:15 pm
actually no they don’t brianbucs but they definitely do more than you. You are truly a simpleton. He’s forced to hold onto the ball because receivers take too long to get open. Winston is a very instinctual runner and rarely fumbles when he runs. It might not be pretty but he can. Definitely better than Brad Johnson. Dirk took out a big part of his game play, shows he’s not a very good coach, but hey some of you guys love him cause he’s a straight shooter!
August 2nd, 2018 at 10:21 pm
Oops my bad they are more athletic but still you are a simpleton with you hate.
August 2nd, 2018 at 10:34 pm
David
Nice grammar.
Are you in like, the second grade?
August 2nd, 2018 at 10:52 pm
Jameis takes good angles when he starts running, also. He doesn’t just run straight ahead.
August 3rd, 2018 at 11:14 am
When Jameis was 250 pounds they had him do QB sneaks and he was successful. But someone came up with the idea he needed to lose pounds. That resulted in making him more injury prone and Koetter stopped calling QB sneaks. Let him bulk back up to 250 pounds again!