Florio: It’s Four Games (In Theory)
August 13th, 2018
Talkin’ Jameis.
Those Bucs fans planning to make the trip to Chicago to see America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, take on the mighty Monsters of the Midway better change their travel plans now.
That’s the word from the creator, curator and overall guru of ProFootballTalk.com, the great Mike Florio.
The Bucs will travel to Chicago in Week 4 after a Monday night game against the Steelers (Joe was under the impression the NFL was shying away from teams involved in Monday Night Football games traveling the next week), thus making it a short week.
With Jameis having to serve a three-game sentenced ordered by NFL strongman Roger Goodell, Florio believes the Bucs have just about already made a decision: Jameis won’t play in Chicago.
This is what Florio spoke of in a recent broadcast of “Pro Football Talk Live,” seen weekday mornings by intelligent football fans on NBC Sports Network.
“I’ve said this before: It’s a three-game suspension but I think a practical matter he’s going to miss four games,” Florio said. “The third game of the regular season is a Monday nighter. The next day, a Tuesday, is when Winston comes back. That Sunday, [the Bucs] go to Chicago. The week after that is a bye. I think [backup] Ryan Fitzpatrick gets four games.”
Joe doesn’t understand the concept of a “short week” here in this discussion to keep Jameis on the sidelines.
Yeah, the team has a short week. Jameis won’t. Jameis has damn near a month to study tape of the Bears for endless hours. Jameis won’t be beat up. He won’t be sore. He won’t be bruised or injured (unless he suffers an injury in the next three weeks).
If Jameis, instead of being suspended, was coming off a minor injury and ready to play at Chicago after missing three games, would this notion of him sitting out an extra game even be thought about much less discussed openly? Joe suspects only by the rank psychopaths who cannot wait to run the best quarterback this team has ever had not named “Steve Young” out of town.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:08 am
I think it will depend on how well Fitzpatrick perform in the 3 games. If he is 2/1 then I do not think Koetter will replace him with Jameis when bye week is right around the corner. Why mess up the chemistry when the team is performing well.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:17 am
Speculation, nothing more, nothing less. Koetter will make that call when the time comes.
#Get After It!
August 13th, 2018 at 8:25 am
Loved how Jameis threw the ball up as he was falling down in week 1 pre season. Let’s be honest he’s gonna turn the ball over a lot and if the coaches are ok with that then start him. He’s flashy and streaky but the best qb not named young. Garcia was better I’m sorry and so was Johnson. Those guys knew how to win.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:27 am
Only way Florio is correct is if the Fitz leads the Bucs to 2-1 or looks very good with one win under his belt. If the Bucs are 2-1, let fitz play that fourth game and give Jameis multiple weeks to come back. He wouldn’t have thrown to our receivers for 3 weeks then would have 3 practices to get right.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:32 am
If we are 2-1 and playing really well, it’s going to be a really tough decision for Dirk. One one hand, he’s our franchise QB and probably gives us the best chance to win (at least long term). On the other hand, Jameis could be rusty. If he throws 3 INT’s and we lose, there could be some issues in the locker room. I’m glad I don’t have to make the decision, because the wrong decision could be really bad for Dirk and the team.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:32 am
I agree that this is pure speculation and it will depend entirely on all circumstances…..Fitz performance, Jameis preparedness.
I can guarantee you this….Koetter is not thinking about this at all.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:42 am
I’m flying from Ottawa to Chicago for that game, and I have zero doubt Winston will be taking the field and leading us to victory that day.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:43 am
An honest question or two for those who know…
What are the details of Fameis suspension?
Is he barred from OBP the entire three weeks? No trainers? No coaches?
How about contact with players off site. Can he go to a high school field and toss with any of our starters to keep his timing sharp? How does the NFL stop him?
The VERY LIMITED action Jameis or any NFL QB sees in the pre season is not really that much.
And so…Jameis is coming off the off season…limited pre season work and NO contact with his receivers or team for three weeks? If that’s true then sorry I have to join the “the rank psychopaths” along with Florio and can easily imagine Jameis waiting until the Atlanta game and the bye week to get ready.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:48 am
America’s Crotchgrabber And Liar should have gotten 6 games. I wonder if he has had his league ordered character evaluation or started his counseling sessions yet? Somehow I don’t ever remember Steve Young ever having to do any of that.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:48 am
It doesn’t matter how Fitz performs and not sure why people think that. They drafted a quarterback number 1 overall in the draft and they have to decide whether he’ll get a long term deal or not, you don’t sit someone in his position unless it’s rg3 type situation and your mind is already made up. Fitz is old so there’s no one behind Winston that can take his place a
August 13th, 2018 at 8:57 am
Let me be preemptive before a true genius declares that Fitzpatrick’s wins we’re against 2 garbage teams.
Fitz wins = Jets and Dolphins, 11-21 combined record.
2 out of 3 of Jameis’s wins were against the Bears and Giants =
8-24 combined record.
Just want to keep things in the perspective.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:57 am
“America’s Crotchgrabber And Liar should have gotten 6 games.”
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We really appreciate your professional opinion on the matter. It’s too bad you aren’t making the decisions, because clearly you know more than everyone else about this issue.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:59 am
As someone posted a few days ago…
Jameis is ONE violation away from the NFL coming down hard and heavy the poster said “banned”…I don’t know if that is the case,but never the less …Jameis is one “hassel” away from a long time away from the team…how the hell do the Glazers factor that into the future of the franchise ?
August 13th, 2018 at 9:04 am
I don’t see how Florio can justify making such a statement without knowing how Fitzpatrick plays. If he wins all three, I could see this happening. But that is unlikely.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:07 am
I agree, only makes sense to bring him back after the bye. It gives him two weeks to practice.
It’s only practical. Plus if we’re 0-3 it really won’t matter much anyway. And after watching the eagles play the Steelers I don’t see us winning those games bc we can’t match up with the eagles def or the Steelers offense. Honestly our def can’t match-up with any one of our first three opponents.
They could have announced this early and said that they added an extra game onto the suspension just to throw some meat at the fans who are morally offended. Could have been a win-win but wtfdik.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:07 am
Dooshlarue, this difference is that Jameis had an injured throwing shoulder…and that he came back to take the lead in 4 other games, only to have our defense lose the game at the end.
You know…just to add some perspective.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:09 am
Just get Koetter and Jameis 2 pre paid phones from 7-11 and they can game plan while he’s suspended so the NFL can’t track them 😁.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:09 am
JW will not be studying tape while serving his suspension. He thinks he is above that. After all, he never opened a book at FSU.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:18 am
I think Fitz will do well but Griffin could possibly take the reigns from him at some point. Griffin looks like he’s ready to run with it. I 100% believe Jameis will start in the Chicago game. Bet
August 13th, 2018 at 9:19 am
Excuse to lose….
That is what we are being set up for if Jameis starts and loses to a beatable Bears team…..I can hear it now….”He wasn’t ready, short week….not enough practice…..” We don’t need any excuses for anything this year.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:19 am
Jameis is suspended for 3 games.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t that mean that he is forbidden from being at the team facilities?
If he’s watching tape it will be on his own without contact from coaches.
The only way Jameis gets in that Chicago game is if they are so bad under Fitzpatrick that it forces Koetter to make that decision.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:24 am
I’ll be the only honest one hsre:
We won’t know until the time comes. Our personal opinions will not play a role in the decision at all. None of us actually know what Jameis will do during those games.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:26 am
Nothing to see here.
Just wishful thinking by a member of the Jameis Winston Lynch Mob (Florio)
Winston will start in Chicago
August 13th, 2018 at 9:30 am
FAKE NEWS another clueless writer.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:30 am
Funny, how we read so many articles on “insanity” about staying with the defensive coordinator after 1 bad year!!!!!! But wants to throw in the QB like nothing ever happened!!!!!!
The cold hard fact is that there are several scenario’s in play!!!!!!!! And if Fitz looks good and wins just one game, then it is a very “real” possibility that JW3 sits the forth game!!!!!!!!!! And then jw3 will have 12 games to see what the bucs have in him. and if he does not look good in multiple games, and does not win 7 of those 12 games, then The Bucs will have very hard looks at the QB’s in the first and second round in next year’s draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 13th, 2018 at 9:34 am
If fitz magic gets off to a hot start Koetter will stick with the rest of the way.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:40 am
During Winston’s 3 game vacation, I wonder how many times he will be using Lyft?
August 13th, 2018 at 9:43 am
#FreeTheAmishRifle
August 13th, 2018 at 9:43 am
I’m really hoping Koetter gives Griffin a chance to beat out Fitz. You don’t keep and groom a qb for years just to ride the bench. I hope he at least gets 3 percent of the snaps with the ones the next two weeks and a bunch of laying time week 4. No reason to assume he can’t be better. As of today I would still start fitz…..but Griffin could change that come week.one in new Orleans ( which is where he was plucked from on waivers) IF…IF he is given an honest shot. Just like Peyton Barber its foolish to count anybody out and.go with someone else just based on experience (Doug Martin last year).Let There be competition at every position and evaluate it accordingly.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:49 am
Unless we start 2-1 or 3-0….AND…its obvious the offense is clicking with Fitz, Winston starts week 4. I believe the players will have some input behind the scenes if we start hot….other then that, the focus remains on Winston’s development as he heads towards a second contract.
August 13th, 2018 at 9:52 am
Looking forward to that Chicago sports trip. Cubs v cards on Friday, northwestern v Michigan on Saturday, bucs v bears on Sunday
August 13th, 2018 at 9:54 am
Howard C
It’s because Florio, like many others in the National media, know that Winston is a Turd and will always be a problem for this franchise in one way or another
August 13th, 2018 at 10:03 am
fitz will go 0-3 the defense will give up 45 plus per game the first 3 GUARANTEED!!!! jameis will play in Chicago and right the ship.
August 13th, 2018 at 10:07 am
Geno
Good for you! Sounds like fun
August 13th, 2018 at 10:25 am
@Joe … “rank psychopaths who cannot wait to run the best quarterback this team has ever had not named “Steve Young” out of town.” Nice touch Joe, albeit a tad melodramatic. I’d venture to say that most JBFers don’t want Jameis run out of town, but rather that they also don’t want to see a reoccurrence of his latest ‘hassle’. Chances are pretty good that the Bucs’ ownership wants exactly the same thing … no more ‘hassles’ going forward. Jameis will get his 5th year option, and very probably be franchise-tagged at least once if not twice following that (assuming his on-the-field performance warrants that of course).
August 13th, 2018 at 10:27 am
Florio does have a valid point but you guys know there’s a reason Fitz is a back up at this point in his career right? Been on 7 teams and led the league in turnovers and can be just as erratic as Jameis. Plus no team benches their franchise qb that they’ve bet the farm on for someone who’s had their chance and couldn’t quite bring it home. You Jameis haters really need to pull your dresses down cause your slips are showing!
August 13th, 2018 at 10:41 am
DR
👍🏻
August 13th, 2018 at 10:48 am
The legend of Fitzpatrick will go the way of the Glennon mob.
I know, I know, he beat the powerhouse jets and dolphins last year.
The most popular guy is the back up QB, until he isn’t the back up anymore.
The decision to start JW in Chicago will be painfully obvious.
August 13th, 2018 at 10:56 am
“JW will not be studying tape while serving his suspension. He thinks he is above that. After all, he never opened a book at FSU.”
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And you know this because……………?
August 13th, 2018 at 11:00 am
Waiting for the “I told you so” moment concerning Fitz one way or the other.
August 13th, 2018 at 11:01 am
Zero contact with any Bucs employee (and Joe suspects all NFL personnel) until the Tuesday after the Bucs’ Monday Night Game with Pittsburgh. This does not prevent Jameis from hanging out with (just to throw out a couple of names) Bruce Arians and/or Peyton Manning.
Joe was told Jameis is going to work out the three weeks with a quarterback coach (not employed in the NFL).
August 13th, 2018 at 11:02 am
Players get a day off after a game, so Winston’s first chance to practice with any receivers, running backs, or centers will not be until Wednesday. In the mean time he will not have access to 1 Buc or any game film. He will not know what offensive adjustments we’ve been making the first 3 weeks. He plays week 6 after the bye…
August 13th, 2018 at 11:03 am
Nothing but speculation like the rest of you, but I don’t see it as far-fetched. Most likely it will be a decision that occurs after week 3 with an eye on offensive rhythm and timing.
You can’t sell me on Jameis not being rusty. With the bye week to prepare, it might be beneficial.
4 games for Fitz is not a stretch. Believe this though: Regardless of the number of games Fitz plays, this will be Jameis’ team after the bye. The Bucs HAVE to find out if this is the guy to lead the franchise.
August 13th, 2018 at 11:13 am
since when do we come up with any great game plans anyhow?
August 13th, 2018 at 11:33 am
It’s just speculation, but the reasoning behind this move would be the fact that Jameis is not allowed near the facility, players or coaches for those 3 weeks. So he will have had no reps with his guys or any interaction until Tuesday of that week, which is indeed short
Of course the only way that would be considered is if Fitz is playing well and we’ve won at least 1 game. If we’re 0-3 you can bet your ass that Jameis is starting in week 4.
August 13th, 2018 at 11:52 am
Jameis Winston starts game 4. Duh…
August 13th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
@Hawaii: I know that he has not opened a book in college by just listening to his ignorant a!! speak. Educated people are articulant. I am willing to bet that he has not opened a book since middle school.
August 13th, 2018 at 12:55 pm
@godeep66,
I’m not sure if you realize this, but Jameis made excellent grades in both high school and college. He was recruited by Stanford, which if you don’t know, has a very high academic standard for its players. But because he doesn’t talk like the way you want him to, you conclude he’s dumb. I think the dumb one is the one who spouts off about something he knows nothing about. But of course, we all know what your problem with Jameis is.
August 13th, 2018 at 1:08 pm
What the heck is “articulant”?
Maybe you should open a book Godeep66?
August 13th, 2018 at 1:22 pm
BTW,
Jameis was offered a scholarship at Stanford.
August 13th, 2018 at 1:28 pm
“Educated people are articulant”
HA – instant classic!
August 13th, 2018 at 2:14 pm
“articulant”, lol. I totally didn’t catch it! I’d be willing to bet we won’t be here from Godeep66 anymore. Can’t wait to see his new name.
August 13th, 2018 at 2:18 pm
LMAO!
Godeep66- Your BIAS is showing!!!
August 13th, 2018 at 4:58 pm
Let me make this one simple:
If the Bucs win the Monday nighter. And are 2-1. Fitz starts.
If the Bucs lose the Monday nighter. Jameis starts.
It’s as simple as that.
August 13th, 2018 at 6:40 pm
I am with a lot of you on Jameis appears to be a reasonably bright guy. I take issue with the implication that he has superior intelligence just because he was offered a scholarship to Stanford. While the average athlete at Stanford is more intelligent than those at other colleges, it does not mean that Jameis is extremely bright. Typically you need extremely high SAT or ACT scores to get into that school (if not an athlete). I have no idea what Jameis standard scores were. I believe that we can rely on the everyday impressions of him that we see on the tube to judge his intelligence more than – “he is bright because he was offered a football scholarship to play at Stanford”
I am not in love with Jameis’ common sense but if he can play superior football than I want him starting over Fitz.
August 13th, 2018 at 7:38 pm
Hawaiian Buc, well played 🙌🤝👏👏
August 13th, 2018 at 7:45 pm
Let’s see now Joe, Just liked I Told “Old Man Kaufman “, the Bookies at at the Las Vegas Westgate Super Book believes based on thier own power numbers that JW is one of the 10 worst QB’ in the NFL. Poor ball security ( 55 TO’s) Happy Feet in the pocket when pressured, and Bone Head decisions at key points (4th Qtr) of games. The end of the Car. Panthers game last yr. in Dec., as well of Eating “W’s” at the Saints game at the Superdome was the worst Leadership of a NFL team Captain I ever experienced in over 50 yers. of following the NFL. If Jason Light knew this before the 2015 NFL Draft, would have taken Marcus Marr. instead. All of the Pool Reporters covering the Bucs at camp this year are blind to the TRUTH! David Corcoran, Winter Park, Fla.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:19 pm
I’m convinced Brianbucs is such a hater because Jameis didn’t grab his crotch. Maybe if you ask really nice he will so you can stop the never ending hissy fit over him on every article.
August 13th, 2018 at 8:40 pm
I’m here Hawaii. Not going anywhere. I can’t control how Siri types a message. You may not be familiar with the technology with you flip phone.
August 13th, 2018 at 10:07 pm
Poor old Joe, you’re just blind to the facts that The Def. was a complete Sleve Thurs. vs. Miami, no running game, and another “Failed 9.7 $Million “ FG again, just liked Nick Foles, who you told everyone that he would the answer for the next 10 years, (Joe never said that. –Joe) but got fired after 4 games last year. You are just another 3rd rate “Media Bit*h” who couldn’t get a JOB at the Tampa Tribune (Umm, Joe worked there for many years.–Joe), just like all of at least I covered the Bucs in 1988 for the Stanford Herald. Just ask IRA Kaufman, he was there at Tampa Studium for the Miami game and Jim Selma was too! David Corcoran, Winter Park, Fla.
August 14th, 2018 at 7:41 am
@david: what exactly is your “troll goal”????
August 14th, 2018 at 8:04 am
@Godeep66,
Nice convenient excuse, blaming Siri. And as you were with Jameis, nothing could be further from the truth as far as me having a flip phone. And let me tell you this, your iPhone isn’t correcting “articulate” to “articulant”. Sounds like you are the one not familiar with technology, lol.
August 14th, 2018 at 8:07 am
@David,
If you really covered the Bucs with that grammar I can see why you no longer have that job. I feel dumber after reading whatever it is you just typed.