“Fascinating”
August 30th, 2018
Bucs fans hounding Joe about why he calls Jameis Winston, “America’s Quarterback,” runs in spurts.
Here is more evidence for the confused to chew on.
Few quarterbacks move the needle quite like Jameis. Tom Brady, certainly. Aaron Rodgers, possibly, but that’s only when one of his celebrity girlfriends has something to say. Maybe the rare times Drew Brees spouts off, but that’s it and even then that’s a stretch.
Hell, if Jameis accidentally sneezes on a homeless person while handing out a warm meal, the general quarters alarm sounds at BSPN, NBC Nightly News springs into action and the local media outlet that uses a 19th-century delivery model runs screaming banner headlines the next day claiming Jameis is an unsavory character unfit to be a member of the local NFL squad that has been anchored in last place seven of the last nine seasons.
(By the way, said newspaper will no longer be able to use the excuse our 45th president is to blame for its red-ink ways.)
As the reporting frenzy continues, TMZ correspondents ambush Jameis’ teammates at airports and stalk other Bucs players at night clubs asking about their quarterback.
But sober people are seeing the light. In fact, the stat geeks continue to conclude what Joe had all along: Jameis is a special, special talent.
Take Billy Barnwell of BSPN. He published a list recently of the most fascinating people in the NFL. And guess who is No. 3 on the list? That’s right, Jameis.
Barnwell’s numbers led to his conclusion that, yes, Jameis is a good if not elite quarterback.
Winston produced the best four-game stretch of his career after returning from injury last season, a run in which he completed nearly 72 percent of his passes while averaging 9.3 yards per attempt and throwing for eight touchdowns against two picks. He improved in virtually every statistical category I can find and was better than league average by the vast majority of measures.
We should be looking at a potential Pro Bowl season for Winston. Instead, he is suspended for three games after allegedly groping an Uber driver in Arizona in March 2016. This is a critical year for Winston’s development, but that has far less to do with what he does on the field than how he acts off of it. Can the Buccaneers justify giving an eight-figure contract to a quarterback who has repeatedly been accused of sexual misconduct and doesn’t appear to be learning any lessons? Should we even be asking the question?
Yet there is still a vocal gang that hollers for the Bucs to unload him. Really!
The Bucs have the best quarterback in franchise history not named “Steve Young” — who unlike Jameis never had a winning season with the Bucs. And people want to run the guy off… for what exactly? Good grief!
Somewhere, Ray Lewis and Ben Roethlisberger are laughing their @sses off.
August 30th, 2018 at 8:04 am
Joe looks at the hits and post count, if it’s too low for his liking? Troll is most loyal fans with this non-sense. That will get the post count up LOL
August 30th, 2018 at 8:12 am
Wins will shadow past mistakes
Continue to lose, and past will be amplified
And Jameis knows this
I’m betting on Jameis
August 30th, 2018 at 8:15 am
So much press for a suspended backup QB at best. Time waster.
August 30th, 2018 at 8:22 am
The only one obsessed why Joe calls him America’s QB is Joe. Most of us just think its stupid.
August 30th, 2018 at 8:24 am
Lets just examine that glorious stretch and add on the last game…..since it was the only victory after his comeback.
Record: 1-4 with 4 straight losses
Touchdowns: 5-Passing/1-Rushing
Turnovers: 5-Interceptions/5-Fumbles
So the “best stretch” of his career involved 4 straight losses and 10 turnovers?
Winston is physically talented enough to be a starter in the NFL…There is no doubt and he has exceptional football IQ but his issue continues to be decision making in the heat of the moment….both on and off the field.
August 30th, 2018 at 8:33 am
In my opinion, Jameis will be taking part in a 13 game interview process to see if he will continue to be the Bucs QB. The Bucs need to know if he is THAT guy.
August 30th, 2018 at 8:34 am
We all know it’s Jameis you want in the hot tub and not Rachel Watson. Stop pretending. We get it. He moves your needle
August 30th, 2018 at 8:35 am
The AQ moniker is still dumb. Period.
August 30th, 2018 at 8:37 am
I love Winston but stop treating him like he is some victim. he made his own bed now he can grope in it.
August 30th, 2018 at 8:39 am
Your voices are dwindling fellas. Not many were on your bandwagon in the first place if you missed the poles you should look again.
The haters had there run and now it’s over. You really should find somewhere else to cry. We didn’t pick Mariota. Time to get over it……
GO BUCS!!!!
August 30th, 2018 at 8:40 am
Trolls abound on this article.
Jamies was turning into an elite QB last year:
PFF Top players in the NFL 25 and under had this to say about Jamies:
The first quarterback to grace the list, Winston has finished all three of his career seasons graded 80.0 or above, making it hard to make the case for another quarterback to jump him. Winston has flashed the potential that made him the No. 1 overall pick in 2015. including this past season, he was more productive than any quarterback not named Tom Brady while under pressure, producing a passer rating of 84.4.
August 30th, 2018 at 8:46 am
America’s Quarterback sounds about right…
Jameis is like the heel in wrestling; wether you Love him or Hate him, he’s just good…
August 30th, 2018 at 8:48 am
@wausa: stats are for losers. What’s the Bucs record with the extra chromosome bearing JW at the helm?
August 30th, 2018 at 8:54 am
The delusional psychotic rants are becoming more frequent and getting worried about this Joe.
Compared to Brady Brees and Rodgers, Winston is moving the needle because of of field issues not on field play. Everyone else you mentioned frequent the playoffs and has a Superbowl ring but Winston hasn’t done any of that. A 4 game stretch is nothing compared to those guys putting up those that’s almost their entire career. Come on now really? We want Winston to be great but really dude?
If he’s only turning into a star then this is the wrong class of quarterback to compare him to. He’s not even better than Eli, Russell Wilson or matt Stafford yet, come on people seriously?
August 30th, 2018 at 8:58 am
Godeep, God forbid anyone posting on this site has the burden of a child with Downs Syndrome. You’re immaturity shown in each post is amplified with the same slanderous, physical disability you mention. Wise up. We get you’re a pansy, but use a little common decency. Prick.
August 30th, 2018 at 8:59 am
Why all the hate for this kid? Did someone find a MAGA hat in his locker, or something.
August 30th, 2018 at 9:04 am
Jameis isn’t going anywhere for the next 3 years as a minimum, unless he takes the Josh Freeman route to getting outta here. Whether the Glazer Boyz are willing to invest $35-$40 MILLION annually after that is anyone’s guess. Articles like this pimping Jameis really aren’t necessary IMO Joe … Jameis is our QB for the foreseeable future. Everyone needs to get used to it and enjoy the ride (and no, there was no reference to Uber intended with the ‘enjoy the ride’).
August 30th, 2018 at 9:11 am
@ Joe … don’t lose sleep over the Vocal minority. This season should tell us all we need to know of JW. Hopefully we see the growth. Now saying someone is the best qb the franchise has had, isn’t exactly comforting. There was a time when you could break down a 4 game stretch of Freeman and point to his 10-6 record. Jameis isn’t a top 10 qb yet, but hopefully he is on his way.No one has better weapons thanwe do and I think by the end of the year we won’t need articles written saying if you look close enough at stats you can see JW is really good because we will already know
August 30th, 2018 at 9:14 am
Jameis made his own bed, he brought about all the headlines himself. He will have to prove himself again. He has the talent he just needs to grow up if he can, will wait and see.
August 30th, 2018 at 9:25 am
The one thing that worries me besides the suspension is this magical 4 game stretch was 4 games with one win 3 losses, 5 fumbles, 3 picks, and the win was against a team that was already headed to the playoffs and came out and said their mind was on next week. He could have a bright future, but there is cause for concern. I’m not saying get rid of him but I need more before I start jumping up and down and want to pay him TOP Dollar. Even look at a guy lack Flacco… could easily make the case the Ravens should have moved on and he won a super bowl
August 30th, 2018 at 9:29 am
Bird Says:
August 30th, 2018 at 8:34 am
We all know it’s Jameis you want in the hot tub and not Rachel Watson. Stop pretending. We get it. He moves your needle
^^^pfft LMAO
August 30th, 2018 at 9:30 am
Japest is the reason the entire judicial system is in question. He’s clearly oppressed and should be allowed to violate anyone anywhere
August 30th, 2018 at 9:32 am
“Winston produced the best four-game stretch of his career after returning from injury last season, a run in which he completed nearly 72 percent of his passes while averaging 9.3 yards per attempt and throwing for eight touchdowns against two picks.” hahahahahahahahaha 1-3 and the one was pointless.
August 30th, 2018 at 9:32 am
Not worried about the offense although it is baffling to me that Koetter would ever try to take over the play calling after what we have seen this preseason. The true question is Mike Smith and that F-ing soft coverage. “Bend but don’t break”- does not work against the big boys, any D-Line needs more than 2 seconds to get to the QB and that is all it takes for a 1-2 step drop. Mike Smith is the key to our season
August 30th, 2018 at 9:33 am
miken Says:
August 30th, 2018 at 9:11 am
@ Joe … don’t lose sleep over the Vocal minority. This season should tell us all we need to know of JW. Hopefully we see the growth.
^^^He showed major growth last year if you were actually paying attention. He sprouted wings and faking laid siege like a mfing dragon in GOT. Dood grew in his game but not his maturity. This year I hope he does. He’s still a scumbag but so are most of the players in the NFL.
August 30th, 2018 at 9:38 am
Robert Says:
August 30th, 2018 at 9:30 am
Japest is the reason the entire judicial system is in question. He’s clearly oppressed and should be allowed to violate anyone anywhere
^^^In Joe’s world of enabling. Yes. But as long as he’s young so he can blame immaturity. Also, have to use the “we’ve all done it” excuse. That’s my favorite. If we’ve all done it (my God we haven’t) then it’s ok or “who hasn’t groped a chick when you’re drunk!?” argument. I love that one too. Blame beer for sexual assault. Says a lot about America’s sports culture.
August 30th, 2018 at 9:40 am
“Winston produced the best four-game stretch of his career after returning from injury last season, a run in which he completed nearly 72 percent of his passes while averaging 9.3 yards per attempt and throwing for eight touchdowns against two picks.”
“Yet there is still a vocal gang that hollers for the Bucs to unload him. Really!” – lmaooooooo
That four game stretch means he’s “elite”
Terrible
August 30th, 2018 at 9:45 am
mike Says:
August 30th, 2018 at 9:25 am
The one thing that worries me besides the suspension is this magical 4 game stretch was 4 games with one win 3 losses, 5 fumbles, 3 picks, and the win was against a team that was already headed to the playoffs and came out and said their mind was on next week.
^^^I thought that game was a big deal for the aints, like home field advantage was on the line I thought. Those 3 picks were in that last game and he still won it.
All those games were one score games that were lost late because of the 32,000 ranked defense.
If JW had a defense they would have been in the playoffs.
Oh… by the way, he still doesn’t have a defense.
August 30th, 2018 at 9:45 am
Welcome to the new
JSF (Jameis Stats Fan) site everyone.
August 30th, 2018 at 9:55 am
I see that Joe is back to wearing his Winston fanboy jammies. I wonder if the say “America’s Crotchgrabber And Liar” on the back?
August 30th, 2018 at 9:55 am
Joe will be Joe!
August 30th, 2018 at 10:01 am
Godeep66:
Stats are for loosers huh?
Well the Bucs had a young QB that was the first overall pick in the supplemental draft. The guy was trying to put everything on his back to win games. He forced passes that caused interceptions, because the Bucs had a terrible defense and he was trying to do everything he could to win. The Bucs were 3-16 during his time at QB, so the local paper and fans were calling for the Bucs to get rid of the guy, because hey stats are for loosers its all about wins if you are the QB.
His Bucs team had a defense better than what Jameis had last year(which was the 5th worst in NFL history) but they still were awful.
The Bucs acquiesced to appease the local media and irrational fans and traded the QB to San Francisco for a 2nd round draft pick.
After multiple MVP Seasons and Super Bowl wins that culminated with him being inducted into the Hall of Fame I think it is safe to say the Bucs made a mistake in trading Steve Young.
Thankfully I do not believe the Bucs will make that same kind of foolish mistake again with Jamies.
August 30th, 2018 at 10:07 am
In fairness to JW for all you stats are for losers crowd, he had his team in position to win 2 of the last 4 while winning against NO. Defense let us all down once again. Should have been 3-1 to finish the season.
August 30th, 2018 at 10:09 am
Jaboo- don’t forget the Kicker in the first half of the season.
August 30th, 2018 at 10:14 am
Robert Says:
“Japest is the reason the entire judicial system is in question.”
This is too easy…. like shooting fish in a barrel Joe.
Your post WOULD make sense if he was EVER charged with anything….
August 30th, 2018 at 10:16 am
Winston is NOT the best qb.Are you kidding me with all the weapons on the team …Bring back Brad Johnson who did more with less. It’s not cool to have the perception Winston has nationally as a finger eating fumbling looser be the face of our favorite team …. Who Would you want “America’s qb” to date their sister???
August 30th, 2018 at 10:16 am
@americasenabler ryan fitzpatrick who is a washed up back up went 2-1 as a starter and had 7tds , 2 picks and 0 fumbles with that same crappy d. Sorry I’m not head over heels for Jameis’s 4 game stretch.
August 30th, 2018 at 10:19 am
Time for #3 to be seen and not heard. Let this all play out and then determine his worth. He’s got a lot to prove to the Bucs Nation. If he does welcome him back with open arms. If he don’t there’s going to be some tough decisions to be made by higher ups!!!! Lets Goooooooo Bucs! It’s almost time for Shat to get real!!
August 30th, 2018 at 10:27 am
Joe
I’m not sure what newspapers did to you but you certainly have a loathing of them. They are dying because of Technology…people want to read on the internet or listen to podcasts or watch cable TV they simply do not want a wad of newsprint when the new technology is much more efficient.
But you couldn’t be more mistaken with this line…
“By the way, said newspaper will no longer be able to use the excuse our 45th president is to blame for its red-ink ways.)”
I have not heard of a newspaper ever blaming Trump for what the change in technology has wrought…in fact they LOVE Trump from a business perspective.
No matter what anybody thinks about Trump good or bad it cannot be denied that he has been great for “newspapers”. The NY Times and the Washington Post are reporting record profits driven largely by our reality show Presidency.
Again whatever anybody feels about Trump, American’s love them some “reality”. He has been great for “Newspaper Companies” which I readily concede are now just news gathering organizations that are moving rapidly to the internet for distribution of their product. If you wish to criticize the bean counters for moving too slowly in recognition of those changes I would not disagree…but it was INEVITABLE!!! There was nothing the “newsprint” organizations could have done other than converted to internet sooner.
Again…do you blame music companies…record labels…and record stores for their failure or does time simply march on with technology. Musicians do not need them anymore because they can go directly to the public through the internet.
The internet has changed a lot…without the internet you would not have a product because newsprint and presses are just too expensive.
August 30th, 2018 at 10:29 am
mike Says:
August 30th, 2018 at 10:16 am
@americasenabler ryan fitzpatrick who is a washed up back up went 2-1 as a starter and had 7tds , 2 picks and 0 fumbles with that same crappy d. Sorry I’m not head over heels for Jameis’s 4 game stretch.
^^^I feel you. Good point.
August 30th, 2018 at 10:30 am
Remember how they all jumped all over the kid for pointing out the LB the other day….saying no real NFL QB would ever do that and blah blah blah they all locked hands in agreement in the comment section like a Band of Brothers. That was until a couple of posters made them look like the FOOLS that they are, stating that it happens all the time in the NFL.
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2018/08/trash-talk-jameis-winston-buccaneers-blog/#more-203624
Welp here we are again today with The Band….looking like FOOLS again.
You guys might want to go check the roofs on your singlewides, it still being hurricane season and all.“
August 30th, 2018 at 10:31 am
henogodeep.666 talking about someone has an extra chromosome when she has too much estrogen in her own blood. No wonder she’s so offended that Jameis stroked someone’s putty tatt, she wishes it had been hers! Jealousy is truly a female trait like Jay Z said! Therm feminine products must put a hurtin on her pocket book!
These dudes who put all the losses on Jameis just wanna be right once in their lives. Doesnt matter there’s 48 other guys and coaches who contribute to those losses as well but when Fameis takes the bull by the horns and tells Welcome Back Koetter to take a seat and let a real qb win the game with a beautiful pin point accurate pass for the winning td these same morons then cry about OH WE LOST 4 SPOTS IN THE DRAFT 😢😢😭😭 then they still talk about his losses but NEVER anything good that he does on the field. They are what the word loser means.
August 30th, 2018 at 10:38 am
@wausa: I guess we are all lucky Young was a lefty. Kept him from doing the reach around with the cabby. Probably even better that Uber was not even around back then. Here is a quick question that needs to be answered: Why did JJJJJJJameis not alert the Bucs Management about the Uber incident when it happened? His Uber account was forced closed and he was VERY AWARE on why it was closed. Can’t use the liquored up “it did not happen if I don’t remember” excuse!!! He and the folks that support him on this site are clowns. You treat him no different than a physically abused woman that thinks she can fix her “man” then continually gets beat by him. This is the same way JW is treating you clowns and will continue to do so.
August 30th, 2018 at 10:40 am
Joe’s not anti-newspaper and it is pure made up fiction to suggest otherwise. Not only does Joe have a journalism degree (unlike a certain local someone who likes to preach about “professional” media) Joe spent roughly a quarter-century working in the industry. LOVED it. If anything, Joe is mad if not PO’ed how things turned out. And to blame a certain president for their problems is not just irresponsible but outrageous. Like blaming the sinking of a ship on the brand of Canadian whiskey the skipper drank the night before.
But as long as papers keep doing what they are doing, it’s good business for Joe.
Might need to start paying attention. The local 19th century news delivery service was running political in-house ads on Twitter using their employees crying how tariffs were killing the paper long before the paper could even feel any effects from the tariffs, fully ignoring their paper was bleeding red ink long before our current president ran for office.
Please click the link in the story for evidence.
August 30th, 2018 at 11:00 am
Sigh…getting bored JBF.. of these divisive articles.
August 30th, 2018 at 11:04 am
America’s Turnover Machine.
August 30th, 2018 at 11:05 am
Joe, lets forget about Jameis for a while and focus on the team, especially the starters. Godwin, Brate, Pierre Paul, Curry, Barber,..you know?
August 30th, 2018 at 11:10 am
Joe, Thanks for clearing up what you are criticising about our local newspaper.
__________
Since national politics has obliquely been dragged into a football discussion once again, I am going to jump in here. (Though, I would prefer to find an escape in sports most of the time I can deal with societal issues as well as anyone else.)
_________
On the one hand we have a star athlete who definitely has publicly shown signs of at least immaturity at the age of 21 when imbibing alcohol, if not exhibiting hints of potentially deeper issues.
On the other hand we have a 71 year old president, a teetotaler, who has openly gropped women and bragged about his attitudes toward women and then dismissed it as “locker talk”.
Do we have a double standard in our society for sure? Or is it too much of a stretch to compare our expectations about the behaviors of professional athletes outside the game with that of the public behaviors of our politicians?
August 30th, 2018 at 11:11 am
@jimsays: SPOT ON. Although the articles on JW drives people to his site.
August 30th, 2018 at 11:12 am
donuts the article is not divisive it is the “fans” that like to root against their own team that makes it divisive. We should be standing strong behind our team but instead man on this site like to rip our team and others like myself would rather not have it.
August 30th, 2018 at 11:15 am
“gropped”? So much for spell checkers. 😀
August 30th, 2018 at 11:50 am
I want Jameis to succeed.
But to ask why anyone would want to run him off is a tad myopic.
We know why and it’s an undeniable reason.
No other QB is starting the season off with a behavioral suspension. 90 percent of success is showing up. Injured last season, suspended this season. Not winning.
The deck is stacked against him and the national wolves will be looking for blood the second he struggles.
August 30th, 2018 at 11:53 am
87….I know you’re a long timer, so I say this with all due respect. all due respect, but your opinion aint worth a painting of a whale and a porpuse getting it on.
you’re so morally inbred you can’t see the forest through the trees. if i’m not mistaken you have daughters as well. I hope your intuition gets better with age because your intelligence is that of a sheep.
August 30th, 2018 at 11:59 am
Sheep? Did someone say Sheep? Here’s another Rhealist re-post:
Little Godeep got caught screwing his sheep,
Making his Mommy so angry,
She said , leave them alone and get your butt home,
And make sweet love to your Mommy.
August 30th, 2018 at 12:04 pm
@ mike
Why make up lies? New orleans was in a fight for the division title. The winner of the falcons and panthers game would determine if the falcons would have won the division. They were trying to win. So no, they did not say they were on to next week. Why are buc fans so uneducated?
August 30th, 2018 at 12:10 pm
Joe, nobody cares what you think about 45. Why do continue to bring him up on your football website? It’s a shame you use your website as a soapbox for your political leanings?
Your complaints about anything outside the realm of football and the Bucs are a waste of space, and I’d bet most of your readers would agree.
August 30th, 2018 at 12:15 pm
Joe, as he has done from the very first day he launched this site, will write about whatever he damn well pleases. If folks don’t like that, it’s a free country, they can go wherever they like.
Judging by Joe’s traffic and the fact he’s been around for over a decade, it seems a good number of Bucs fans enjoy Joe’s brand of Bucs news.
Can’t please everyone all the time. And Joe’s not going to waste time trying.
Fully understand this website isn’t for everyone. And Joe’s good with that.
August 30th, 2018 at 12:23 pm
Dear Robert : My young daughters are better girls than you strive to be daily here on these pages…..
So you back up your stupidity…with even more stupidity!
Good call Robert!
Do you guys have cable out there in the woods?
Power generator or electricity?
Plumbing?
August 30th, 2018 at 12:25 pm
The only thing better than Jameis tearing it up this season and beyond is knowing how miserable it’s going to make all you momma’s boys. Just think, every Sunday during the season will be like “that time of the month” for you girls. Even the women on this site forgive Jameis, and wrote it off as immaturity and bad technique. Yet, you girls are SO offended. Funny stuff.
August 30th, 2018 at 12:30 pm
Come at me bro….I’m bored!
August 30th, 2018 at 12:31 pm
Play well.
Don’t turn it over.
Win games.
If he does that he will be here. If not, he’ll be gone.
August 30th, 2018 at 12:33 pm
No spit it’s your website, Joe. I didn’t say otherwise, I just question the reason. The old “free country” retort is profound, btw.
You use your site as a soapbox. You cheapen the entertainment of JBF as you please. Yet, you often moans about other sports networks and media outlets injecting their own social justice platforms. Just saying.
I would presume most readers care about political slant as much as Scott Rynolds’ religious beliefs.
August 30th, 2018 at 12:35 pm
Politics are not a “brand of Bucs news”.
August 30th, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Twice does not constitute “repeatedly “……..3, 4, 5 times? ……Okay, but not twice, and two and a half years ago is not last week.
August 30th, 2018 at 12:59 pm
Man, someone done shook the tree!
Someone’s a little sensitive about their “leanings” it appears. Maybe instead of being offended, change the channel Rhonde. What’s good for the goose and all!
T REX- It REALLY is that simple.
August 30th, 2018 at 1:00 pm
Ya’ll done got 87 bored!!!! That ain’t a good place!
August 30th, 2018 at 1:02 pm
Bucsfannan
Nobody is offended, champ. Somebody is just asking a question and pointing out hypocrisy at the same time.
August 30th, 2018 at 1:08 pm
Jameis did not play Defense in those 4 games, that’s why he could not win. Look at the Buffalo game for proof. That one would have been in the bag had the defense slowed Tyrod Taylor down for their last drive. 3 plays is all it took to move the ball on last years defense.
August 30th, 2018 at 1:14 pm
@webster… that was just a quote from a saints player when he said he looked up and the falcons were up up 16-7 in the 4th. I thought the saints game Jameis played well but he still had 3 picks that game. Yes the saints were playing for the division and they won the division with a panthers loss or saints win.
August 30th, 2018 at 1:32 pm
@87
BYE FELICIA!!!
August 30th, 2018 at 1:37 pm
Time to move the stories away from Winston until after Saints/Eagles/Steelers games. Waste of time looking backwards, season starts a week from Sunday, time for the Joe’s to focus on players that can help this team of underdogs against some of the league’s best, to find a way to win 2 of those games.
The Bucs will not be able to stop the Saints offense so they will have to play keep-away and produce some turnovers. I’m not sure the Saints can stop the Buc’s offense either. JPP and McCoy have to have monster games for the Bucs to win in New Orleans, it really comes down to those 2 guys dominating to make Brees uncomfortable. We’ve seen too many games in New Orleans where Brees gets to look at 3 or 4 different targets before threading the needle.
August 30th, 2018 at 2:08 pm
@ mike
The score was 17-13 going into the 4th. The saints played their full squad because they needed the win period. Luckily the falcons lost allowed them to win the division. I get it, truth isnt truth.
August 30th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
@87: You gonna visit JW when he is in he pen?
August 30th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
Godeep—
You might want to call your brain surgeon and ask him to clean up your botched surgery.
First, you say, “stats are for losers.” Then you try to justify that statement by citing Jameis’s won lost record, which, of course, is a stat.
August 30th, 2018 at 2:26 pm
Anybody siting fitz record of 2-1 as an indictment on jameis is an idiot. Fitz beat the two teams that happened to be worse than the bucs and had two of the most garbage qbs (mccown and cutler) in the dolphins and jets. Does anyone remember that jets game? One of the worst games ever. Fitz was 17-34 187 yrds 1td 1int. Is that what you think put the bucs over the top or was it the jets sucked worse? The kicker was 6-7 in the two wins. But blame jameis for the kicker crapping the bed against the patriots. Fitz got smashed by the falcons 34-20. Why because we sucked last year at defense, kicking, running, blocking. It takes a team to win. The sooner some of you idiots realize it the better. The great drew brees finished 3 consecutive seasons going 6-10 or 7-9. Why? Because the defense sucked. If the 1st ballot HOF cant over come a crappy defense then why do you expect a 23 year old to be able to do it?
August 30th, 2018 at 2:28 pm
@webster… like i said, nothing against jameis, just quoting a saints player. It just seemed like that game was what we typically get… good jameis and bad jameis… lots of yards and the game winner but 3 picks. Glad we won but it was a total team effort… we scored on special teams, d only gave up 17, d clamped down right before half when a jameis int gave the saints with the ball at midfield but we held them. Sorry to get your panties in a wad. we won 3 games when Jameis started and won 2 of 3 when he didn’t. I don’t want to get rid of him but I’m not sold on him being elite either
August 30th, 2018 at 3:04 pm
ben Says:
August 30th, 2018 at 10:16 am
Winston is NOT the best qb.Are you kidding me with all the weapons on the team …Bring back Brad Johnson who did more with less.
^^^Uuuuuuuuh dood only needed 17 points a game to win. Had one of the best defense in the history of the sport. This doesn’t even compute dood, beep boop, BOOM.
August 30th, 2018 at 4:23 pm
Godeep… it is quite possibly you could end up “in the pen”…with the amount of hate and vitriol you constantly spat out about Jameis…it seems almost scary…extreme!
August 30th, 2018 at 4:37 pm
Nole4buc:
Why so harsh to the eloquently spoken Godeep? He is 100% correct in all of his statements. Watching too much CNN will make you dillusional.
August 30th, 2018 at 6:49 pm
Stats are a part of every profession and endeavor on the planet… moronic to keep using that cute quote as if it came from Lombardi…it came from Morris moron. Stats in the article are real, just as the ones folks pitch in about fumbles, missed kicks, blown coverages, etc. cuts both ways. Impact is debatable IMO because if you care about wins we were in position to have 4-5 more than we got last year in the 4th quarter…lost and won AS A TEAM. Better personnel this year should increase wins. Great site joe. Go Bucs!
August 30th, 2018 at 10:27 pm
Jameisnot
Cnn? You do realize fox news is rated the most false news of all stations. But sure i know you believe truth isn’t truth
August 30th, 2018 at 10:40 pm
@ mike
Im sorry to tell you but you are clueless. Was it jameis fault against the panthers when the bucs were up by four annd he led the team down to fg range and the kicker missed to put them up by 7 but the the kicker failed to do so with 3 minutes to go? The panthers went down to score a td and the bucs lose. The game before against the falcons, jameis was something like 23-29 with 3tds and no ints. Was that lose his fault? Was it his fault against buffalo when he put the bucs up by 7 with 3 minutes to go and the bills score in 30 seconds? Oh and the next play hump fumbles. Thats jameis fault?
August 30th, 2018 at 10:49 pm
@ mike
Its a team game. While jameis is not perfect, he is the least of the bucs problems. Fitz being the qb against the jets and miami and the bucs won is bs. Jameis would have won those games with a bum shoulder because those team sucked. Against good teams no because your defense was 32 in every catorgory, your running game was 28th, your kicking game was 32nd, your oline sucked yet your passing game was 4th. That is with your franchise qb having a bum shoulder. He is no where near the problem on this team
August 31st, 2018 at 1:56 am
Again, the male frontal cortex that handles risk taking activities and impulsive behavior is not fully mature in males until age 24-25 (21 in women). All of these events in Winston’s past are typical of a immature young adult. So, as a 24 1/2 year old only now should we expect full maturity from him. He was drafted very young and part of what makes him a great player is child-like love of football. One should expect him to act immature in his past considering his personality and upbringing. Shooting squirrels with BB guns, taking free crab legs, jumping onto tables and shouting obscenities, and he said/she said indiscretions, are exactly what young adults do.
However, now that he is married, has a child, and has reached full maturity these behaviors will stop. If they do not then Winston suffers from some sort of psychological arrested development.
August 31st, 2018 at 7:45 am
@webster… actually you are clueless… the article is about the great 4game stretch of jameis.All i’m saying is durring that great 4 game stretch he had 7 td passes and 8 turnovers and one win. Now if you need to go back through different parts of the season to make excuses for this and that got it. Hell even@ james above is giving us a science leason that effects only jameis and not wentz, mike evans and other players that seem to be fine before the age of 24-25. I never said Jameis was the problem… just said if that 4 game window was Jameis at his best,then Im a little worried. Again sorry for getting your panties in a wad.
August 31st, 2018 at 9:02 am
@webster: your mentor, Alex Karras, is once again rolling in his grave due to your remarks.
September 3rd, 2018 at 12:18 am
I stumbled on this site and WOW. Whoever this joe dumbass is…. booooy you are one delusional idiot. I cringed at you giving Shameis Winston that nickname. It is arguably the stupidest crap ive ever read on the net. Even more than flat earth theories. Your site is trash just like this franchise. Dumbass