True Canton Contender
July 9th, 2018Joe is so pleased to share this story out of Philadelphia for two reasons: it highlights an ugly truth about the 2017 Bucs, and it backs up a private argument Joe had on the subject with Tampa Bay’s only Hall of Fame voter, JoeBucsFan.com columnist Ira Kaufman.
Bucs fans know too well that Tampa Bay paid $11 million for DeSean Jackson last year. Dirk Koetter said he was open but quarterbacks couldn’t/didn’t find him.
Joe believes Koetter and his analysis is nearly represent unforgivable sins against the football gods.
Consider just how damn good Jackson has been in his career with an array of quarterbacks. He’s centimeters from the Hall of Fame conversation, explains NBC Sports Philadelphia writer Reuben Frank.
DeSean Jackson hasn’t played here since 2013, but he’s quietly piled up some crazy career numbers. With 513 yards in 2018, Jackson will become only the sixth player in NFL history with 10,000 career receiving yards and an average of at least 17 yards per catch. The others? Hall of Famers Lance Alworth, Don Maynard and James Lofton, plus Harold Jackson and Stanley Morgan. D-Jack is already one of only seven players in NFL history with five career seasons with 1,000 yards and 16 yards per catch. Jackson turns 32 on Dec. 1. If he records 513 yards in the Buccaneers’ first 12 games, he’d be only the third player in NFL history with 10,000 yards and a 17.0 average or higher before his 32nd birthday.
If you didn’t digest that previous paragraph, then read it again.
That’s how good Jackson is and can be for the Bucs. He was in his prime last year and the Bucs couldn’t capitalize. Somebody should pay for crimes against Bucs fans.
If Jackson hasn’t lost a step at 31 years old, then the Bucs simply has to use that weapon better. Much better.
Joe suspects Jackson will be ready. Heck, Joey Galloway, had three 1,000-yard+ seasons here at 34, 35 and 36 years gold, and Jackson is a freakish athlete like Galloway was.
July 9th, 2018 at 5:06 pm
I hope not
July 9th, 2018 at 5:09 pm
He is just milking us for a paycheck at the end of his career, just like MANY others have in the past. Besides, we don’t have a NFL caliber QB to throw him the ball if he was in his prime.
July 9th, 2018 at 5:20 pm
For Jackson to get those yards we better hope Jamies suspension last 16 games. Reason……Evans is his man and he will throw interceptions and incompletions trying to hit #13. Or Jackson better hope to be traded to reach those milestones! He is a great receiver and I just couldn’t figure out why he wasn’t more of a threat last year!!! Feel sorry for him!!!
July 9th, 2018 at 5:28 pm
Spot on Tandyman.
July 9th, 2018 at 5:38 pm
“He was in his prime last year and the Bucs couldn’t capitalize”
Not sure he was in his prime. Not to my eye vs when I’ve watched him on other teams vs how he played with the Bucs. And career stats don’t indicate he was in his prime form in 2017.. Is Frank Gore also in his prime then or Jordy Nelson?
Fitz never connected with him on deep balls either. I recall at least 1 play where he didn’t adjust to what I thought was a very catch-able deep ball by Fitz. And I can think of like 3-4 with Winston. 4-5 plays may not sound like a lot but that’s like 200+ yards with multiple TDs in terms of the big play potential lost on Djax not adjusting to balls that looked play-able (IMO of course – really wish I could pull the plays up and see if I’m just being crazy).
July 9th, 2018 at 5:43 pm
Can not have Mr McGoo trying to find the flip on a switchblade….Sunday game time…
July 9th, 2018 at 5:47 pm
No, I do believe you’re right Lord acorn.
July 9th, 2018 at 5:51 pm
I hope we get to realize DJAX’s potential this year. Imagine if ROJO is the real deal.
We’d have a game breaker at WR and at RB….two threats to take it to the house from anywhere on the field.
And what would that do for ME13…Brate…OJ…Godwin?
July 9th, 2018 at 6:03 pm
It does not matter who you have in as Wide receiver if you do not have the correct person throwing the football in their direction. We could have Antonio Brown at receiver and it still would not matter. Case in point, look at when Ben Roth is Burge wide receiver if you do not have the correct person throwing football in their direction. We could have Antonio Brown at receiver and it still would not matter. Case in point, look at when Big Ben was out, then look at Antonio Browns Stats….. and our starter is far worse then the Steelers backup. Our starter simply pass his statistics at the end of the game when we are way behind… Due to his fault and turning the ball over. Come on guys, this is not rocket science it’s a game
I speak the truth, I am the truth, and the truth hurts!
July 9th, 2018 at 6:11 pm
Bucs coaches are ranked 30th in the nfl.
July 9th, 2018 at 6:18 pm
Man Jameis messed up in a huge way, but the haters are out in full force making sht up. Jameis is worse than Steelers back up. GTFOH JameisNOT. Do you realize how moronic you sound when you say something so stupid?
July 9th, 2018 at 6:18 pm
GTFOH NOT! Such stupid BS coming out from the haters these days.
July 9th, 2018 at 6:38 pm
I don’t think you are crazy Lord C. I seem to remember about that many plays that DJax quit on as well
July 9th, 2018 at 6:50 pm
The truth hurts.
July 9th, 2018 at 6:57 pm
Plays should be run to the QB’s strength not only the WR’s strength. More DJax in the slot and more slants when outside. It might be just me but he seemed opened a lot when running the slant. Maybe teams laid off because of his speed. Hopefully they move him around more.
July 9th, 2018 at 7:10 pm
Bucs coaches are ranked 30th in the league
And
FL education system is ranked 42nd in the nation.
#DumbandDumber
July 9th, 2018 at 7:12 pm
Whoever is going to be QB throughout the whole season will find it difficult to divvy up touches with so many hungry weapons to support. What a great problem to have for a change. Jameis really killed a great opportunity to right this ship himself. He could’ve been the hero and secured that mega contract.
July 9th, 2018 at 7:20 pm
I think it’s GMC’s fault…..
By the way, speaking of GMC……the bashing has subsided with the JW issue.
July 9th, 2018 at 7:43 pm
Jackson was a stud before he came to the bucs. The bucs head coach said Jackson was open but the bucs need a qb who can be accurate with the long ball and lead the receiver .
July 9th, 2018 at 7:45 pm
Jameis has a serious problem with the long ball. It’s not a big secret so his head coach/play caller needs to find other ways to get DJax the ball. I still don’t know why they don’t run quick slants to DJax. I don’t understand 50% of the plays Koetter runs. Other teams run plays that work and make sense. I think Koetter is too smart for his own good and overthinks things. Maybe he’s wised up and maybe he will let his OC do his job and call the plays. Koetter has proven that he has serious flaws with calling plays. He often does well between the 20’s and as soon as they cross the 20 he falls apart. So I’m banking on defense and holding opponents to less < 17 points per game. Derp will get 1 TD and 4 FGs for 19 points.
July 9th, 2018 at 7:49 pm
Tua can hit DJax in stride
July 9th, 2018 at 7:54 pm
so his head coach/play caller needs to find other ways to get DJax the ball. Maybe Koetter can name Jameis and DJx co captains for the coin toss and Jameis can then give DJx the 🏈
July 9th, 2018 at 8:02 pm
Big mac, we talked about djac playing slot before, I think he doesn’t want to, he has made his money, lot easier running fly routes. i would like to see OJ play slot myself. lol
July 9th, 2018 at 8:14 pm
DeSean Jackson is afraid of taking hits and sacrifices winning for avoiding hits. If he makes the hall of fame, then it is a total joke.
July 9th, 2018 at 8:27 pm
D-Jax would love to get the ball but we need a QB that can get it to him. If I was d-Jax I’d give up o the plays too because the ball is always under thrown or in the defenders hands. For Christ sake Kirk cousins has a better long ball and we saw how he did with the skins. 1000 plus yard seasons. That’s the problem.
July 9th, 2018 at 8:31 pm
I totally believe that Djax is one of the elite WRs of his time. However I think that as loaded as we are at receivers that Godwin makes DJ kinda obsolete in the grander scheme of things. MY hope is that a 1 or 2 WR do down in pre season and we manage a trade with said WR hungry team for their best OLman somehow.
Build the Trenches!!!!
July 9th, 2018 at 8:37 pm
I would really like to see what Griffin can do.in pre season. Maybe he can find jackson….and maybe j ackson will fight for the ball
July 9th, 2018 at 9:15 pm
Could care less what Jackson did in those other cities. He was a crappy WR here in Tampa last year.
You can only blame so much on the QB. Yes, he did miss an open Djax a few times but I rarely saw Jackson creating any separation. He for sure didn’t come as advertised and if you think he did go back and look at his previous highlight reels.
We weren’t getting those plays from DJax. Not even close. Major letdown
July 9th, 2018 at 9:34 pm
Some here have asked if we all haven’t grabbed a strange girl’s vajajay.
I don’t know about that. But here’s a more legitimate question. Perhaps you haven’t thought about it because we don’t usually divide our lives up into seasons like NFL players.
Have any of you ever had an off year? A truly championship year? Do different years in your past have different reputations of success and failure in your minds.
DJAX perhaps had an off year….Jameis may have been a little too pumped to hit him deep…the OL perhaps missed a block here or there…the coaches called some really bad play sequences…in short…a LOT of Bucs from Licht on down had very poor years last year.
So get the eff up…dust yourself off and move on. The odds of that many pieces to the puzzle all having poor years is about as great as the same number having career years…and if that should happen we make the playoffs and then some.
Probably fall somewhere in the middle.
July 9th, 2018 at 9:40 pm
People blaming Djax to cover up the flaws of their chosen one is a complete joke. Same people defending Winston’s every mistake are the same ones trashing DJax (bonsai, lord corn etc.) Its so obvious if you see enough of their posts. The fact that Winston is the only guy in.his career who couldn’t get him the ball magnifies Winston’s horrible accuracy.
I’m convinced that some of you are paid to come on here and defend him to the death. It’s either that or Winston’s relatives. How else could you explain the blind, cult like devotion. Jackson unlike Winston is going to be in the hall of fame when its said and done. Truth hurts like a bad toothache!
July 9th, 2018 at 9:42 pm
I know Joey Galloway. I’ve seen Joey Galloway play. Desean Jackson is no Joey Galloway.
July 9th, 2018 at 9:53 pm
Cant throw the long ball.
Anus Jameis likes Evans, because he can just throw him jump balls.
Hopefully, the Glazers step in soon- cut America, and order licht to get us a QB that can throw Jackson the ball in stride
July 9th, 2018 at 10:28 pm
The difference in Galloway as a Buc and Jackson as a Buc is Galloway had a QB who could hit him and get him the ball
July 9th, 2018 at 11:58 pm
In your prime means at the top of your game at its most elite level. That is not what happens after the age of 30 for almost every single human being.
July 10th, 2018 at 7:44 am
Swiss cheese defense and club foot kickers are reason we lost so many games since Jaboo came here
July 10th, 2018 at 7:51 am
Those blaming Winston for Jackson doing poorly here, answer me this.
Why does Winston have no problem connecting deep with any other WR or TE on the team, especially Mike Evans?
While it may be the in thing to pile onto Jameis right now, let’s not set aside reality. Jackson is a coward who refuses to put his body on the line, runs bad routes and does not fight for the ball.
The only reason he had decent results over the years is because he had many, many passes thrown his way…not because he was a reliable WR, but because on the slim chance he caught them, he could gain yards after catch. Which makes sense because he is more concerned with avoiding hits.
July 10th, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Galloway had garcia, a qb that actually hit an open receiver, even simms could throw a deep ball.