Seat Just Got Hotter
July 2nd, 2018
Could be rough year.
Every coach in the NFL (unless his name is Bill Belicheat) is under a hot seat to some degree. It seems one writer thinks Dirk Koetter’s seat just got hotter.
No Bucs coach hired by Team Glazer has been retained after two consecutive losing seasons. Except one. Chucky, who won a Super Bowl for Team Glazer.
Coming off a 5-11 year, Koetter was already stepping into uncharted waters. Now thanks to America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, who will miss the first three games, Koetter’s seat is ablaze writes Maurice Moton of Bleacher Report.
Winston’s impending suspension, which is expected to come because of a likely violation of the personal conduct policy, may hurt Tampa Bay’s push for a playoff spot, but a lackluster showing on the scoreboard could seal Koetter’s fate.
In arguably football’s best division, general manager Jason Licht may need to consider drastic measures to compete with the Saints, Falcons and Panthers, as each team has won the NFC South title in the last three years.
And Joe will remind folks that three games this season is the toughest first three weeks in terms of strength of schedule in the Super Bowl era. And the Bucs will have to navigate that without their starting quarterback.
And teams that start 0-3 have a 2.9 percent chance of making the playoffs. And Ryan Fitzpatrick, expected to get the start for the Bucs, is 1-8 lifetime against those three teams.
For Bucs fans who are angered at Joe for being so doom-and-gloom, Joe will politely ask, would you drop $100 on the Bucs winning either of those three games straight up? If so, you are much more loose with your cash than Joe.
Good morning!
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:05 am
Was 100% behind Koetter until about 3/4 way last year when his offense just didnt seem to be that dynamic and maybe that is Jameis’s fault as I do not watch any coach’s tape, but from the tv view it seems too predictable, the OL was below average and no RB last year, hopefully it will be different this year, the defense better or he is definitely another ex tampa HC, he is much better than bennett and williamson though, so he has that
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:06 am
Yeah all the fans calling for Jameis to be cut forget that this is a business. If the Bucs cut Jameis, we will be in QB hell again and run through a million coaches sort of like the Browns.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:06 am
This adds more importance to the Bucs going out and bringing in another NFL game-experienced QB to back up and even compete with Fitz….for those first three games, longer if need be, depending on what happens with Winston…decisions on him, how his therapy goes, injuries, etc. If they hitch the backup wagon to Griffin, it is a judgment as bad as Winston’s. Well, no not really…but it is bad. And of course, the Bucs should never count on Winston for anything. Certainly not the GM and HC jobs.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:07 am
Excuses for a bad season aside, Koetter has not shown that he has IT for being a NFL head coach. Not yet. Actually thanks to America’s Choir Boy the coach has an excellent opportunity to show his alleged head coaching ability. We shall see.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:09 am
@Buc50…that is an empty argument. The Bucs went to the SB with a mediocre game manager. They can use bridge and draft the franchise guy early next year. And there are plenty of mediocre game managers that can win games better than another mediocre QB who is in news all the time for breaking the rules and screwing his team and fans over. Saying to keep Winston or else is dumb.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:14 am
Because Koetter’s seat wasn’t hot before, it wasn’t like a large group of fans wanted him gone this past off season.
I think Winston suspension might give him a pass more than anything. If he goes 9-7 and miss the playoffs let’s say by 1 or 2 games he would get a pass because of the suspension, something that probably wouldn’t happen if DCG wasn’t suspended.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:17 am
The Steelers tend to choke early in the season. Lost to the 5-11 Bears week 3 of last season, and four years ago we beat them in Pittsburgh.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:18 am
the bucs always have a motto every year…
it’s a bucs life, seize the day…etc…
this year lets go with “glazed and confused”
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:20 am
glazed as in the glazers….
confused as in “Confucius say: we are buc (duck) soup”
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:22 am
This is kinda what you get when you hire rookie GMs and rookie coaches. . . not always but pretty much with this team. Should have a top Admin guy with a proven NFL performance record guiding this team. . . Kinda like what Jax did with bringing back Coughlin. . . .js
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:26 am
Jameis and his agents parts ways? Just gets better? What a sheet storm.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:27 am
“Both Licht and Koetter will have a pass for this year and will be back for 3 more years. Doesnt matter whatsoever how many wins we get this year. The sole purpose of this 2018 season is to play JW3 and try to get the best trade value for him in the 2019 draft. The 2019 season will have a new bridge QB (Giaraffe) and Licht will draft 1 of top 2 QBs in the 2019 draft”
Kobe Faker
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:29 am
There are some rays of hope….but slight.
The new defense.
New running back.
Further development of the young defensive backfield
Reworked Oline
And, frankly Fitz…..I think he is more managed…..less likely to turn it over….perhaps he is exactly what the doctor ordered for those three games.
Winston is a better QB…..but that would be over the longer haul….would I rather have him, yes. But that is not a possibility.
Here is a question that I would like Joe to pose in an article (with options)….what do we do with the Sweezy 6.5 mil?
FA CB, FA Oline, another RB?…..use it to secure contract with younger player?
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:30 am
No excuses. If Doug Pederson can win the Super Bowl with a backup QB after losing his starting QB who was having an MVP season, why can’t Dirk find a way to win a couple?
The whole strength of schedule argument is irrelevant. Every football player in NFL history will tell you that winning a single game is very hard and that there are no easy wins. I guarantee you the Saints, Steelers, and Eagles as an organization are not looking at the schedule and counting the Bucs as an easy win.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:38 am
Ths stupid thing is to start talking about a hot seat way before the season started……Looks to me as a tabloid press not a sport press…….
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:39 am
I thought this staff should’ve been canned this past offseason….the inability to adjust or get creative on both sides of the ball is mind boggling….our offense and defense are very predictable…..
the only way everyone comes back is if we make the playoffs and get a playoff win…..that would show dirk and smittys ability to rally a team and fight thru adversity……
unfortunately, we just saw how this staff coached under pressure and adversity from, HK, IRMA, SOS, no bye week, injuries etc…..I have little to no faith that this staff can produce 6wins this year…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:43 am
what do we do with the Sweezy 6.5 mil?
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CALL RICHIE AND RUN THE BALL LIKE HELL THE FIRST 3GAMES!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:46 am
Winning comes down to:
Stop the run
Effectively run the ball
Don’t turn the ball over
Special teams execute
If you do those things, you don’t need an all pro qb to win
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:48 am
I would absolutely bet $100 straight up.
In fact I called Joe out on his 90% chance of going 0-3 statement and he ignored me and then wrote this article.
This is coming down to the pass rush and rojo. The margin is not huge today between Fitz and Jameis with our star studded offense.
Fitz is smart football. Jameis is talented football.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:49 am
Jason Licht is arguably the most responsible for the lack of winning these last several years. IGnored DLine and misses consistently in FA. Especially on Oline which is supposed to be his strength.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:55 am
Trade for Teddy Bridgewater; 2nd round pick and Jameis. Hell 2nd in next year’s draft and 3rd in 20.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:56 am
I bareley leave comments but im starting to feel like the rest of the loyal fans on thia page with killing this Americas QB crap.Call him a pro bowler but he was never no Americas QB.
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:57 am
“For the past 3 years the short passing attack (west coast offense) has brutalized the tampa defense. Journeymen QBs and those that are not even in the league have had career games utilizing high efficient short passing scheme before the pass rush effects the play. slants and pick plays non stop. We will be facing Brees, Wentz and the rapiest for the first 3 games…..0-3”
Kobe the realist
July 2nd, 2018 at 9:59 am
I also think that we need to consider that last year we came into the season as a potentially dominant team. The expectations were higher than they’ve been since the bowl. Now it’s the opposite.
I’m fairly certain this will have an influence on the psyche and we do have a talented roster. Instead of working to meet expectations they will be working to prove people wrong. Which may be perfect for this young, hungry team that is filled with extreme talent.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:09 am
@Dewey
Hey thanks for that heads up on Jameis firing his agents. Folks of course are now speculating wildly on what that means and the motivation behind the move.
Like Joe I respect Mike Florio and PFT so here’s part of his take which makes sense to me.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/02/source-jameis-winston-agent-change-had-been-in-the-works/
“According to the source, Winston wants more experienced football agents to handle his next contract. Baseball agents Greg Genske and Kenny Felder negotiated Winston’s first contract, a wage-scale deal that culminated in the Bucs automatically picking up a non-negotiable 2019 option worth $20.9 million.
If that’s the case, the timing still seems unusual. With the Bucs not likely to open contract talks with Winston any time soon, why not let the dust fully settle on the three-game suspension? The move instead seems to be a reaction to the suspension, and in turn an indictment of their efforts to get him the best possible deal with the NFL, managing to cut the baseline suspension in half and, perhaps more importantly, to conceal from public view specific details that could have sparked a public outcry culminating in Winston being cut.”
IMHO it’s that last sentence that is telling. Winston can finally see how badly he has jeopardized his career and is unhappy with the damage control of his former group both in the NFL negotiations and the PR over the past year.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:20 am
@Roy, you forget that we had a generational defense and still we needed a competent QB or else we would have been in the dustbin of NFL history. Bottom line, you need a QB no matter what.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:27 am
Bucs50!! The team is already in Qb hell! Drew Lock will be the draft pick for this team next year,with a new Coach and GM.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:30 am
Buccernutter
“Fitz is smart football. Jameis is talented football.”
That is an excellent description. With Jameis it’s always been about does he have the judgement and temperament to play the position…no doubt about his talent…his decision making process both on the field and off have left a lot to be desired.
Harvard Fitz certainly has the brains and the dude is really, really cool under fire but does he have enough arm and talent to get it done.
Ironically there is one are where Fitz is as good as Jameis and that’s running the ball…but who wants their QB running the ball? lol
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:31 am
Yall are crazy this team is going to amazing this year and so will Jameis Winston.. Ive met Winston in person he was a very polite person.. Yah In College he was a dush bag.. But hes older and more mature you all should be behind him hes our only hope to ever being a contender.. All of his crap was from when he was a KID in college.. We all did stupid stuff but hes never been convicted of ANYTHING!
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:34 am
Be mad all you want but then not bringing in another quarterback should tell you all you need to know about Winston.
Dirk seat isn’t any hotter than it already was. He became the first coach in the NFL to have no clue how to use of it’s fastest players and helped contribute to his lowest numbers since he was a rookie. He should be on the hot seat for loving field goals so much. I’m glad Winston is feeling the heat too, he’ll either rise up and play to his potential or melt so his future is in his hands
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:36 am
This is why Joe thinks Keyshawn is onto something. Everybody and their brother who has dealt with Jameis on the football field raves about his football IQ. It’s why Koetter said he became a Jameis fan. Clearly Jameis is book-smart because he was accepted into Stanford on an academic scholarship. Stanford doesn’t exactly accept the village idiot.
But in his personal life, and to a lesser extent on the football field, something isn’t clicking. Arrogance? Stubbornness? Not sure what it is. Whatever it may be, it very well could kill such a promising career.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:42 am
The Bucs went to the SB with a mediocre game manager.
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If you are going to call people dumb at least know what you are talking about. Brad Johnson led the NFC in passer rating. He was much better than Mediocre. You sound dumb trying to hate on Winston.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:45 am
The heat has been there since the close of 2017. He either CAN or CANNOT coach, the suspension means nothing. He’s had all offseason to prepare.
NO EXCUSES!
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:46 am
We could also say Jameis plays emotional football.
I genuinely think he leaves his personal life drama at the door. The dude is dialed in from the first snap. But we have all seen him come out spastic and settle in as the games progresses. Fitz is so much more calm under pressure.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:47 am
>>> If you are going to call people dumb at least know what you are talking about. Brad Johnson led the NFC in passer rating. He was much better than Mediocre. You sound dumb trying to hate on Winston.<<< It took a while for the offense to grasp Chucky's ways. So for about half the season, the defense carried the Bucs. Once the offense got a handle on Chucky's ways, it was damn good. Didn't Brad Johnson make the Pro Bowl that year?
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:48 am
@Admin
Yes I think he did.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:49 am
Stpete
That’s why oj and Brate will be Fitz’s best friend the first few games. We’ve been preparing for this for months. They knew. What better tandem to have for a guy that excels at shorter routed than Fitz.
This could help when Jameis gets back and those teams expect an entirely different offense. Koetter’s offense will be fully unloaded this season and I expect oj to light it up.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:51 am
JW has always been a turnover machine. Off the field stuff aside, you’ll never win in this league turning the football over as much as he does. If he doesn’t fix it his career is over anyhow.
TBH, I think it is part of his DNA. That’s just Jameis. It’s a package deal.
Pass.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:52 am
J
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:47 am
The Bucs went to the SB with a mediocre game manager.
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>>> If you are going to call people dumb at least know what you are talking about. Brad Johnson led the NFC in passer rating. He was much better than Mediocre. You sound dumb trying to hate on Winston.<<< It took a while for the offense to grasp Chucky's ways. So for about half the season, the defense carried the Bucs. Once the offense got a handle on Chucky's ways, it was damn good. Didn't Brad Johnson make the Pro Bowl that year?
Well said Joe. Brad was a very good QB for the Bucs and to say he was mediocre is not accurate. However, if Jameis can get out of his own way he has the chance to be great.
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:54 am
@Buc50….I agree…the team around the QB, and especially the D needs to be good. And i think at least on paper we have that….
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:54 am
Koetter showed last fall that with a disciplined QB his offense he can win in the NFL…
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:57 am
BTW
I have respect for all SB winning QB’s…including Dilfer, Flacco and especially Brad Johnson. He wasn’t an all time great be he was certainly far from medicore.
He was a big immobile statue but above the shoulder pads he was excellent!
And he had a decent arm.
@Joe
You just nailed it for many of us. We really don’t know what his demons are but Jameis is clearly nowhere near as stupid as his dumbarse decisions might have indicated.
When smart people act crazy what is left to infer? Crazy of course is too strong a word to use…but emotionally upset…who knows what kind of childhood Jameis had for real. Then again he may have just fallen prey to all that hero worship can do no wrong since middle school.
Now for those who wish to blast we who are over Jameis and try to call us “goody two shoes” “pssies”…whatever…that’s just stupid.
I feel for Jameis in the walk a mile in my shoes way. It’s truly hard to survive that much adulation that early and at the INTENSE levels it’s been showered on Jameis for his entire life. And for some here I think Jameis could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and it would be…give him ANOTHER chance.
I’d love for Jameis to find redemption, rehabilitation and end up with a fine career. I just don’t want the Bucs to have to suffer through that painful process with him. Send him to camp Belicheat…a win…win…win…good for Jameis…good for the Bucs…and potentially good for the Pats when Brady steps down or is simply replaced.
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:03 am
How exactly is giving away Jameis to the pats a win win? We lose quite possibly the best QB we’ve ever had for what? Draft picks that we most likely will mess up anyways? This might be win win for YOU and people who think like you but its absolutely not a win win for the Bucs.
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:14 am
@ couch fan – 20-28 – with 60+ turnovers in 3 years.
Best QB isn’t saying much here in Tampa.
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:19 am
T Rez obviously im talking about going forward. LMAO. Its comical to me when you people pretend like young QBs dont ever turn the ball over. Keep trying those with these weak attempts at undermining Jameis production.
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:27 am
The problem is not only 3 games, its the short week coming into week 4!!!! Its the groping QB that has only played 1 game in a 2 months!!!!!! Offensive rhythm will be hard to find in the first half of the football season!!!!!!
The groping qb sank the season and likely the GM, front office and coaching staff!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:30 am
@Alanbucsfan
Winning comes down to:
Stop the run
Effectively run the ball
Don’t turn the ball over
Special teams execute
If you do those things, you don’t need an all pro qb to win
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Perfectly said, This is the formula for most any successful NFL team.
DK was had this job fall into his lap, not because he was HC material, but because he had a good year here as an OC.
Then everyone including the front office got caught up in “Weapons for What’s his name”. and ignoring what is needed to win in the NFL. Fierce, Withering Defense.
That’s especially sad here in Tampa Bay, where we have always been about defense. I mean the four autographed jersey’s I own are Selmon, Brooks, Sapp and Lynch. Having said that, I do wish I had a D. Williams and a M. Alstott, but you get the point.
The best thing this team can do right now is minimize the importance of QB play with the things you stated. If the other team can’t score, they can’t win.
Playing 2002 style “Buc Ball” might not be sexy, but Man, back in those days we had pride and teams feared playing us. I’ll take that over scoring a million points any day.
Time for pressbox Smitty to get it together…..
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:31 am
Incorrect Realist.
If Ive said it before and ill say it again. If this Staff cant survive a couple games wihtout Winston, they deserve to be fired. Not only for this season but for the garbage they trotted out their last season to. I usually like your posts but theres no way you can possibly want Lovie gone so badly, which I did to, but condone this mess of a staff. Makes no sense to me. This staff was already on the hot seat before Winstons mess.
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:44 am
Couch Fan
Perhaps you do not see, or understand the whirlwind that is about to descend on this team. The distractions throughout training camp…the pre season and indeed at least until mid season are an unforced error that is TOTALLY the fault of Jameis Winston. His judgement or lack thereof has placed his team in a horrible position.
When game four rolls around will all the talk will not be about the next game and football it will be more FHITP and the drunken suspension. Jameis is NOT a victim here. This is not a liberal media conspiracy. After a horrible reputation as a college player…off the field that is…he BARELY hangs on to remain the #1 pick in the draft. After this he goes out his first off season with two of the most notorious dudes he could find…wait for it it gets better…he does this right after the Kinsman ordeal with the main witness in that incident and BOOM a freaking convicted rapist out on appeal and then gets drunk on his butt. Are you kidding me. Let’s just keep all the rape talk alive eh? If Jameis had been accused of murder would he have hung out with OJ Simpson?
It’s not even the groping anymore it’s everything that led up to those allegations. Doesn’t really matter if he groped or not. He’s literally not trustworthy.
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:49 am
@Couch Fan
However you want to label it!!!! But with the unproven players on the roster, the JW3 disaster/distraction, the schedule, I can’t see how at this point it turns into a good outcome!!!!! I just hope team Glazers have a list of names for new GM by the Bye week, so they can hire them before the end of the season so they can get a jump strart on evaluation and lining up of staff!!!!!!!
I will reassess the team during preseason of course!!!!! But for now, The real fans do not like it!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:59 am
Well Coach Koetter, Look at it this way..If you do not win this year. Jameis can carry your fishing rods and bait box down to the fishing hole. Where You, Smiity and Jameis can fish and eat sardines while trading stories of what..Might have been!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2018 at 11:59 am
Everybody knows a great child that got involved with a terrible peer group at school….they became difficult to manage and usually wavered far from their parent’s upbringing.
I think this has happened to Jameis…I think it started in college and continued to some extent in the pros……Hanging with guys like Darby & Banks isn’t an excuse but it is an indication of Jameis’ choices. Throw some alcohol into that mix and it is very bad news.
July 2nd, 2018 at 12:34 pm
couch
I agree….no excuses for dirk…..
if anything, dirk will have the opportunity to show why he belongs in the league as a HC……owners will be looking to see how he and smitty handle this situation…..
and this is the second year in a row @realist has used the “SOS” excuse…..lol….he use to be comical….now he’s embarrassing….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
July 2nd, 2018 at 12:50 pm
IIRC Brad Johnson also went on a tear during the playoffs…
July 2nd, 2018 at 12:57 pm
Tbbf
I openly admit I have posted way too much on player X over the past couple of weeks. Crime scene investigation, psychological analysis, social justice, law enforcement, The Shield et al.
The reasons for the way what’s his face is rests solely on him.
All of us should move on. In all reality, believe it or not, this team has far bigger issues.
Dirk Koetter
Mike Smith
Incomplete O line
Unknown D line
Questionable secondary
Fairly questionable Lb’s at this point
I think we are rich in Wr’s and TE’s, but that’s about it. And while I have my opinions on what should happen with what’s-his-name, only ownership can make that decision. Hashing, re hashing, over analyzing , and beating this horse into oblivion and posting about it won’t change a thing.
Let’s move on…
July 2nd, 2018 at 1:06 pm
spbf – “we who are over Jameis… call us “goody two shoes” “pssies”…whatever”
More like over-reactionary hypocrites.
I’m very surprised to see you in this camp spbf. You gonna try and tell me you personally have not done just as bad or worse at some point in your life? Probably never but your hand on a strangers va jj before – but I bet if the worst behavior you ever displayed was fully known by the whole world that your life would have been pretty damn uncomfortable for quite some period of time.
Now magnify that X 100 as you try to “walk a mile in (Winston’s) shoes”.
The real problem here for true Bucs fans (which I know you are spbf) who are taking the position of “Winston has to go” – is that you are really painting yourselves into a corner. Because unless some additional very bad behavior on Winston’s part comes to light – Winston will be the Bucs starting QB for 13 games in 2018. And unless he basically sucks and majorly regresses within those 13 games – he will almost certainly be signed to a 2nd contract and likely wind up being the Bucs starting QB for the next 13 YEARS as well.
Are you going to dislike and disrespect your favorite team’s QB for all 13 games this year – much less for the next 13 years??? Because 2+ years ago it seems as if he MIGHT have placed his hand on a woman’s baby maker (over her clothes) for 3 seconds while drunk?
Perspective which is badly needed right now regarding this whole Winston Ubergate thing – has been in very short supply on jbf comment threads the last 11 days.
I guess I’m just surprised to see a true Bucs fan like yourself who is intelligent and well spoken/written fall into the over-the-top reactionary camp and piling on when you don’t even have all the facts as to exactly what did or did not happen that night in Arizona 2 years and 4 months ago.
Even if Jameis did exactly what Kate said he did – is it really such an unforgivable act that you feel obligated to support running the best QB in the history of this franchise out of town and off the team? In spite of his unquestionable talent and ALL the good things the young man has done for the Tampa Bay community in just over 3 years here?
If so – then I say again – go now – look in the mirror – and just be glad your deepest darkest secrets/bad decisions were never made public to the world and talked/speculated endlessly about for an extended period of time….
PERSPECTIVE – GET SOME!
July 2nd, 2018 at 1:13 pm
I am re-posting this just because it is easier……
I openly admit I have posted way too much on player X over the past couple of weeks. Crime scene investigation, psychological analysis, social justice, law enforcement, The Shield et al.
The reasons for the way “what’s his face” is rests solely on him.
All of us should move on. In all reality, believe it or not, this team has far bigger issues.
Dirk Koetter
Mike Smith
Incomplete O line
Unknown D line
Questionable secondary
Fairly questionable Lb’s at this point
I think we are rich in Wr’s and TE’s, but that’s about it. And while I have my opinions on what should happen with what’s-his-name, only ownership can make that decision. Hashing, re hashing, over analyzing , and beating this horse into oblivion and posting about it won’t change a thing.
Let’s move on…
July 2nd, 2018 at 2:22 pm
Lmao. This team wasn’t going anywhere near the playoffs even with Winston.
People actually believe that this team would make the playoffs lmao.
That’s hilarious. And that’s why you’re all pissed off every season because you don’t live in reality.
July 2nd, 2018 at 2:30 pm
I think Licht’s seat is even hotter. JW is toxic from a PR standpoint. The team, fans, and the league cannot trust him after he basically admitted to sexually assaulting the driver and then came up with a lie to mislead investigators and the team. Think the owners will eventually realize that he has to be cut. Once that happens Licht will surely lose his job as he is the one who stuck his neck out for Jameis. Koetter will be swept in all of this as well and an entire new regime will be brought in to reset the franchise. Once again the Bucs will be in QB hell and will have to start yet another search for a franchise QB.
July 2nd, 2018 at 2:49 pm
TDTB – I predict the exact opposite of everything you just said.
Call me an optimist – but I see Jameis playing his way through this with authority and much of the young talent that Licht has been amassing on both sides of the ball will all “breakout” at the same time. Causing the Bucs to become 2018’s “breakout” team. Winning record – playoffs – maybe a playoff win or 2 – the works!
The outcome will likely be somewhere in between of course. But I bet my imagined version of the Bucs near future is a lot closer to reality than what you just stated.
We shall see….
July 2nd, 2018 at 2:53 pm
JameISNOT was just fired by his agent. Hahahahah. These agents are not dumb and will not represent someone in the arena league.
July 2nd, 2018 at 3:33 pm
Pickgrin- Koetter and Licht better pray that’s what happens! They needed it BEFORE the suspension. I sure hope they turn this thing around!
July 2nd, 2018 at 3:38 pm
TDTB
I also disagree…..I think Jameis has been neutered a bit and that’s what he needs to settle down….I think he knows he must win…..and, as far as Licht is concerned….yes, he drafted him but he had many like Lovie pushing him and as far as we know the Glazers were already sold on Jameis…..they gave the nod and Licht won’t be blamed nearly as much as most think.
And then, there is our new Defense…..I don’t have expectations like last year but I have hopes.
July 2nd, 2018 at 4:05 pm
The good news is if you’re going to face those three teams, it’s best to do it the first three games with a new defense that DC’s may not have figured out yet.
And starting the season against the best can build significant character if the team survives.
July 2nd, 2018 at 4:12 pm
@Tbbf: fact is a man of solid character would not be hanging with the likes of Darby and Banks.
Don’t judge a man (in this case Winston) by what he says and does in public. Judge him by what he does when the spotlight is not on him.
Wasn’t it JC Watts who once opined “Character is doing the right thing when nobody’s looking”?
In that regard, Winston fails badly. That does not mean he is not a talented QB, and does not say he can’t win games at QB, but it does mean that he cannot be trusted to always do the right thing when nobody’s looking.
I suspect even Pablo would agree.
July 2nd, 2018 at 4:47 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo and Hamus have that “elongated arc” in common….Pablo understands better than most how that thing can get you into deep, deep trouble…..also hangin’ with the wrong hombres…..bad news. Pablo is very sad about Haboo. Pablo will still root for him. Pablo thinks he is the best QB since Heff Garcia”
July 2nd, 2018 at 8:56 pm
Winston or no Wnston, how the hell does a division’s LAST PLACE team get the toughest 3-game opening stretch in NFL’s Super Bowl. Even if it’s some complicated algorithm that’s creating the schedules, doesn’t a HUMAN check out the results before giving it a thumbs up? Or is that what happened, JW allegations led to some dumb-ass human deciding to stick it to the team? What the hell happened to the concept of parity???? Shouldn’t NE or PHILLY get the TOUGHEST SCHEDULE?
GO AWAY COMMISSIONER!
July 2nd, 2018 at 10:51 pm
After last years fiasco regardless of what Koetter faces he better not duplicate the failure of last year! Should that happen you can pretty much say you gone Dirk!!! Adapt and conquer Koetter that’s what great NFL Coaches do! Your on the clock and block this year buddy!!!! Good luck, lead the Bucs to success man. No excuses in 18 My Man.
July 3rd, 2018 at 10:28 am
Not angry at Joe, nor should anyone else be. It’s not gloom and doom, merely a touch of realism. We are not in a good spot right now.