Free Agent Dreaming
July 6th, 2018
Yeah, Joe is depressed thinking about how the Bucs will start the season’s brutal schedule without their starting quarterback, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
Joe can’t remember being this bummed about the start of a season since inept Lovie Smith tried to sell the Tampa Bay community on Stewart McClown.
So Joe is looking past the 2018 season tonight. No, not at the draft (Joe fears that will come before September is gone), but at next year’s free agent crop.
For years Bucs fans have done their best to try to run safety Chris Conte out of town, short of lighting a bag of feces on his front door on fire, ringing the doorbell and running away.
Well, the 2018 season is Conte’s last on his current contract. He’ll be an unrestricted free agent. In the chance these angry Bucs fans get their wish and Conte leaves, might the Bucs fill a hole with a free agent?
Well, one of the better safeties in the NFL, Lamarcus Joyner is set to be a free agent in March. You do the math.
The Rams are somehow going to have to find a way to keep Aaron Donald. The two parties have been at a contract impasse for years. Donald will likely break the bank, forcing Los Angeles to wave goodbye to a starter or two. Currently, the Rams have less than $4 million in cap space.
Problem is, the Bucs might be looking to trim salary, as several players will need to be paid including Kwon Alexander, Donovan Smith and Ali Marpet.
The disturbing thing is if the Bucs don’t win this year, they possibly could have the dubious distinction as a rare losing team in salary cap hell.
How the hell does that happen?
July 6th, 2018 at 12:15 am
I thought this was supposed to be a fan site
Getting real tired of all the negativity
July 6th, 2018 at 12:24 am
Bucs are going 6-10 if all the stars align in a row in the sky this year so you can start dreaming Big Joe for next years draft. Good grief….
July 6th, 2018 at 12:29 am
Pretty damn brutal tonight eh? Looking to next March already says a lot about how JBF really feels. Checking out potential free agents and the all of this and there’s still 18 days until the Rookies report. Probably a good thing you guys receive your Press Pass from the NFL and not the Glazers. Cause you’re key cards would likely be deactivated after spewing all of this vomit about the home town team.
July 6th, 2018 at 12:32 am
Gonna Love it when we go 9 and 7 this yr with a wildcard spot!!!
July 6th, 2018 at 12:39 am
Yeah, what they said.
July 6th, 2018 at 12:41 am
Well, 3 of them
July 6th, 2018 at 12:48 am
Hopefully we drafted contes replacement a couple months ago. I think Joyner will be a sweet fa pickup, but if things go according plan lol, those few fa dollars we have left will go to grimes replacement on the outside. Not a lot of hope in a vh3 miracle turnaround, but I guess if he’s a pro bowler then we can talk about Joyner
July 6th, 2018 at 12:50 am
How the Hell does that happen?
Sadly, team management has the number one pick in the draft. The perfect opportunity to get the face of the franchise QB.
They do shoddy investigative work- the sell their fanbase that a defective human being has reformed
They re- invent the image of a QB- who is nothing but trouble all thru his college career.
The team had a chance to draft a franchise QB. They blew it. Now, the team- which has been nothing but trash for 15 yeats, has to start the process over.
When a team that has veen nothing but trash, has to start over- is is still a rebuild? A trash rebuild?
July 6th, 2018 at 1:15 am
Horrible contracts this past offseason. Paying pretty nice money to backups. Whilst having other backups before them being paid nicely. Donovan smith imo might get a fat 2nd contract. Not that i think he deserves it but damn koetter n licht love this guy. They should have put him at guard and drafted a real tackle. Or settled marpet on the left side. Donovan smith has the strength to match dts just not the agility to match fast des. That inside fight might put a lil dog in him. But what do i know?
July 6th, 2018 at 1:18 am
It’s time for cooler heads to prevail. Jameis will be okay. He manned up and took the rap from Goodell. Given the climate these days, he wasn’t going to outrun this mess. Better to face it. So for that, I think we can all be happy(ish). The prospect of an 0-3 start to the season is no joke but it’s not a death sentence. Stats aren’t something to be completely ignored but there’s a reason they actually play the game each Sunday.
July 6th, 2018 at 2:36 am
Grimes will be gone. Dotson will be gone. Gholston will be gone. DeSean Jackson will be gone. There’s lots of QB money tied up, and something’s gonna give there. Lavonte and McCoy need to live up to their contracts. There’ll be money there. And Licht’s done well that there’s no dead cap money to be paid to anyone. Evan Smith will be on the bubble next year, along with Conte, Tandy, and both kickers. A good cap manager/GM can find a way.
July 6th, 2018 at 5:09 am
The good thing is we will save 20 million dollars on Winston
July 6th, 2018 at 5:09 am
I remember Joe being pretty smitten with McCown before that doomed season.
All happy because Josh got all the receivers together somewhere for some sandlot type football.
Maybe Joe was just too entranced by Josh’s b!tchin hair at the time?
Maybe Joe doesn’t remember?
But most definitely…….. Joe knows QBs!
Wink, wink.
July 6th, 2018 at 6:21 am
9-7 with Fitzpatrick,with American Groper riding the bench!
July 6th, 2018 at 6:32 am
He manned up and took the rap?
He lied right up to the end denying it, that he had witnesses.
My definition of manned up I guess is differant ,as you man up from the begining and make amends,not at the end when you cant fabricate any longer.
So sorry, once a liar,always a liar,it just may take a little longer for the next one.
Seems like bad ju-ju with this cat.
Cut him
July 6th, 2018 at 6:39 am
I’m defensive coordinator dreaming….but hopefully it’s buckner
July 6th, 2018 at 7:44 am
Free agent safeties??????? Come on Joe, when it all falls, The Bucs will need to find the best GM they can!!!!!!! Start at the top my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 6th, 2018 at 7:59 am
LOL If you must know it is individual teams who issue credentials. Only time NFL does is for NFL-run events like the combine or owners meetings or Super Bowl events.
July 6th, 2018 at 8:01 am
If the Bucs hire from within it would likely be Mark Duffner.
July 6th, 2018 at 8:03 am
Indeed!
July 6th, 2018 at 8:20 am
Joe’s, you guys are still insulting a professional NFL quarterback in McCown, who last year won more games with less talent; has nearly an identical rate of accuracy and is not suspended for (a history of) lying and lude behavior while, America’s Turnover Machine is suspended for exactly that!
Oh yeah, at present, the organization that is currently employing J-miss is also contemplating bringing him back and if they are not, the next regime, that will probably be here in eight months, will! You can’t hang anything like that on McCown.
It is getting old Joe’s; have a bit of decency. Please, leave McCown alone. He’s playing in the NFL while being insulted publicly by two blokes who can’t even see their shoes!? You should be better than that!
Doosh is correct, you guys were applauding McCown’s leadership when he first got here.
Over and over and over again, Joe yearned for the Bucs to leave McCown where he belonged as a backup. Joe wanted a QB drafted in 2014. Joe wanted Glennon to stay in after McCown was hurt. Joe could go on and on. Nice leadership effort by McCown when Lovie gave him the reins. Doesn’t mean much. Never did. –Joe
July 6th, 2018 at 8:39 am
6-8 wins Winston or Fitz.
July 6th, 2018 at 8:55 am
Capt Tim
I surely hear you and do not disagree. I’d add a point that mitigates the Buc’s stupidity.
IMHO there are some drafts that simply do not have a franchise QB on the board.
May have some talented guys who can lead a team to an SB IF the team has a great D…but a Dan Marino..Payton Manning kind of guy doesn’t always pop up.
Yet in Marino’s draft what…4 or 5 GREAT QB’s.
We may have been unfortunate in the year we got the #1 pick. I just do not see either Jameis or MM as genuine franchise QB’s. Starters? Yes. But not the type of guys to carry their team…certainly no Brady’s or Rodgers.
July 6th, 2018 at 9:00 am
Nick foles…2019
July 6th, 2018 at 9:03 am
Wow, that’s stunning!
July 6th, 2018 at 9:12 am
no faith in whitehead????
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
July 6th, 2018 at 9:29 am
Joe’s, so when the Bucs gave Jay-miss the reins and he feigned all of his “leadership”, was that a big deal?
I was/ am in agreement on the points that you make. I am not claiming that McCown is a great quarterback. However, as I’ve stated before, if they switched jerseys, save for the physical features, one would struggle to tell the difference! McCown also seems to be able to conduct himself appropriately at all times, whereas J-miss is becoming harder and harder to defend. Also, McCown is able to retain a job, even if it is as a journeyman, for nearly a decade, while everyone ponders the career of a three-year player that you can’t seem to stop defending!
In summary, both are similar when on the field yet, one seems to have never outgrown his sense of entitlement off of it! Do you believe that the better human being is the one who should be publicly insulted, repeatedly?… and for what clicks?… to make one’s self feel better?… because you simply can?
To salvage his own career, J-Miss should hope to become the man McCown is because his play is not much better, if at all!
July 6th, 2018 at 9:38 am
You need to seriously keep that depressing Outlook to yourself. If it’s a loaded word before training camp when your talking about 2019 free agency. Doubt they signed this many safety rookies expecting none of them to pan out. The first 3 games are brutal but damn there’s still 13 games after that, give it a rest it’s unreal how many sports fans and media should be on xanax in Florida.
July 6th, 2018 at 9:40 am
Joe has a solid optometrist you should consult.
July 6th, 2018 at 10:16 am
McCown: Five acceptable plays; one WTF?
J-miss: Five acceptable plays; one WTF?
Yes, J-Miss is better, but by how much? He can amass a ton of yardage in garbage time with a vastly superior offense than what McCown had here.
That optometrists’ phone number; is it 800-AmericasQB or is it 800-JohnnyFootball?
July 6th, 2018 at 10:27 am
Why has there been no discussion of Ryan Griffin? Why do we have a young 3rd QB if we aren’t going to give him a shot in a perfect setup for a 3 game interview with an offseason to prep? I’d let him play… if they start 0-3… they probably were going to anyway.
July 6th, 2018 at 10:47 am
You see why I call these dumbarse dumbarses. Smh. It doesn’t even require a response. So laughable it’s not even funny.
Delson – you get it, good post.
July 6th, 2018 at 11:15 am
Wow some people don’t know jack about football. If you think McCown is a good QB and equal to Winston you are mistaken. I was actually at every game when he played and I can tell you one thing is for sure he is garbage and the only time teams ask him for his services is to fool fans like you that he will win games for us when in reality they are doing it to land the number one pick in the draft to get their future QB. Just go look at all the teams he played for and who came next…I love reading some of the hilarious posts on here. Jameis can move the ball up the field and his stats showed. If he knows he can rely on his kicker and defense to live another down I bet his turnovers will greatly decrease. Add a running game and you will see him score more. It’s all coming together folks as long as some of you don’t try and run him out of town. This year will tell us a lot about what we have so time will tell all. Go Bucs and looking to a fantastic improvement this year!
July 6th, 2018 at 11:21 am
Where did I say McCown was good?
July 6th, 2018 at 11:26 am
Because Joe lives in the real world.
If the Bucs start 0-3 it is very possible Dirk Koetter’s goose is cooked. Does anyone really believe, with his career on the line, Koetter is going to throw a guy to the wolves who has never taken a snap in the NFL?
Joe is not convinced Griffin will make the team.
July 6th, 2018 at 12:55 pm
Yet another negative article from Joe Between our new defense and a reliable kicker we will win one of the first three games. And Fitz is good enough not to lose another one. I predict we are 3-1 going into the bye with a QB controversy…
July 6th, 2018 at 1:29 pm
BringBucsBack is not wrong. By just about every statistical measure Josh McCown had a better year than Jameis. At this point in their careers the only reason why I would take Jameis over Josh McCown is because Jameis has more upside because of his youth. Both have accomplished very little in the NFL.
McCown was physically ravaged by a horrible offensive line and a disappearing act by the Muscle Shamster. He wasn’t a clown. He’s probably one of the toughest QBs in the NFL and he took a physical beating in 2014.
July 6th, 2018 at 2:51 pm
Not really.
If they do poorly this year the coaching staff and gm / his staff will be gone. A new regime will not place the same importance on resigning all those players so they really won’t have any salary cap issues.
July 6th, 2018 at 4:26 pm
The only silver lining of the Jameis situation is if the Bucs decide to resign him, they can do so for less than previously estimated. That will help the salary cap and FA.
July 6th, 2018 at 6:09 pm
JOE
Please stop. You’re scaring me…….
July 6th, 2018 at 7:11 pm
Yes.
July 6th, 2018 at 9:59 pm
Bucs have the worst coaching staff/GM/OWNERS in the NFL joe good teams do not look like the Bucs and show me the proof that there not .
July 6th, 2018 at 11:12 pm
[Once again, do not refer to any current Bucs player as a habitual felon if you want to continue posting. It’s your call in the end. — Joe]