Why Only Three Games?
June 24th, 2018
Questions.
Of course, we don’t yet know if America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, will be suspended three games for his hassle with an Uber driver in Arizona. That has been the reported tentative number.
Per the NFL, one getting busted for the personal conduct code the first time can be popped for six games. So Josina Anderson of ESPN asked an interesting question in relaying a text conversation she had with Bucs stud defensive tackle Gerald McCoy.
Why only three games?
Anderson hints that Winston’s camp had to have made some kind of backroom deal with NFL strongman Roger Goodell for a lesser sentence, if the sentence really is three games.
Here was our discussion in part on #NFL Live on Bucs QB Jameis Winston, who is facing a 3-game suspension, at this time. pic.twitter.com/QTyKJ9LWOC
— ig: josinaanderson (@JosinaAnderson) June 23, 2018
June 24th, 2018 at 8:10 am
I am assuming this is why Jameis said he was not going to fight or repeal the suspension.
I think it is funny yet suborn silliness that Joe is poking at the Jameis hater with “Pro bowler and America’s quarterback Jameis Winston.”
June 24th, 2018 at 8:18 am
AlaBucs… The later kind of reminds me of the old saying “There is no such thing as bad publicity”. Or as I used to say about teachers….there are good teachers and bad ones…but there is no such thing as a good boring teacher.
June 24th, 2018 at 8:19 am
Can you even imagine a national sports media person referring to Jameis as “America’s QB”?……..laughed out of town.
As for the 3 games vs 6……we may never no for sure, but the NFL has set a precedent……perhaps the suspension is more for non reporting and deception rather than the act itself….so then it wouldn’t be a sex act violation.
June 24th, 2018 at 8:29 am
TBBF…they would only say that it is only is some bad humor, comparing it to a president that bragged about doing the same thing (if you are wealthy and famous). And as Jameis is both of those, I guess he must be taking that sexual assaulters advice.
But you must ask yourself why would it doesn’t bother those that think it is OK if an old fat white man says he does it…. no big deal, but if it is a young black man…oooh…completely different.
June 24th, 2018 at 8:32 am
TBBF…or should I say Jameis is alleged to have done it, while the other guy bragged about it with his own mouth.
June 24th, 2018 at 8:34 am
The lack of a definitive decision by the NFL and the silence of the Bucs is making this a biggger story every day. Announce the results and penalty already! Some of the talk about the Bucs releasing Jamis is crazy talk. They have know about this all off season and did nothing to bring anyone else in.
Then again, they didn’t bring in a RB last year when Martin was certainly questionable, so who knows. I do know it’s unfortunate how much of an idiot Jameis is. Should have never put himself this situation, no matter if he did it or let the idiots he was hanging with put him in this situation. After his FSU issues, he must be completely brain dead.
June 24th, 2018 at 8:36 am
Choose to make it a white/black thing if you wish….but I don’t see it that way.
June 24th, 2018 at 8:41 am
It is a lot to ask of a young man…to be mature…to make good decisions on and off he field, to cut or minimize ties with the old friends that supported and fostered bad decisions, and to think of all the possible compromising situations in advance and avoid them.. that is tough. But it is a young mans game, and basically that is part of the job requirement.
June 24th, 2018 at 8:43 am
Tbbf… I’m not making it anything…just asking why that is so different from an old man that says it and based upon his history, seems pretty much on the money, and a young guy that allegedly does it based upon his history, and is some arch villain. How do you explain it?
June 24th, 2018 at 9:28 am
It’s only three games because it’s a he-said-she-said. The three-game suspension—IF it’s only 3 games—is for not reporting an incident per league rules.
June 24th, 2018 at 9:38 am
Once again, the NFL must have something concrete on Jameis. It actually serves the NFL’s best interests to have investigated this and proved false. They want their players to be respectable and to dissuade false accusations.
This has the feeling of JW making concessions so not to get 6 games. Which again, implies guilt and making him absolute ass.
People acting as though this is no big deal, even if proven true are completely crazy. This guy already has a history of sexual deviance that is not well received. If you think that doesn’t matter then you just don’t get it.
June 24th, 2018 at 9:51 am
The NFL doesn’t have to have anything concrete on Jameis, not in the #meToo era when all you need is an accusation and to hell with due process and evidence.
That said, Jameis did himself no favors with his behavior that night and who he decided to hang out with.
June 24th, 2018 at 9:55 am
Jaboo…we elected a self-admitted sexually deviant president a year and a half ago. And you won’t why people just don’t get it? No job seems beyond people caring in many quarters.
June 24th, 2018 at 9:56 am
Something tells me it still might be 6 games, especially with all the bad press (during the down time) that is coming out. Nothing else is being talked about…lol.
Unless the argument is there was no video evidence (ala Zeke pulling down the girls top at the Mardi Gras Parade).
June 24th, 2018 at 9:58 am
Hassel with a Uber Driver? Is that what it is?
June 24th, 2018 at 10:36 am
mark2001
“It is a lot to ask of a young man…to be mature…to make good decisions on and off he field, to cut or minimize ties with the old friends that supported and fostered bad decisions, and to think of all the possible compromising situations in advance and avoid them.. that is tough. But it is a young mans game, and basically that is part of the job requirement.”
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By and large, that’s a sensible, accurate statement. To say it’s a lot to ask of a young man to be mature, I’m having a hard time reconciling that. It drives me nuts when the Winston apologists cry “He’s only 22, or 23,or 24..blah blah blah
I know, and I’m sure you know plenty of young men that do the right thing even in their early 20’s. Military men, family men(even at that young age)just regular walk of life men, that work hard and don’t run into this type of trouble. At least not more than once. Most of them don’t have one of the greatest “jobs” in the world and the big salary that goes with it.
It’s a pretty familiar story, I guess. These problems start when these guys are in High school, maybe Jr. High. The coddling, the sense of entitlement, transgressions swept under the rug because you can throw a football.
As far as cutting ties with those that foster bad decisions, in JW’s case, I can’t get past the fact that he went through all that mess at FSU, the long investigation, the public scrutiny, the lawyers and the settlement, and didn’t come away with the knowledge of what the ramifications are. Today’s situation is not his first sexual impropriety rodeo, in other words. If my 8 yr old burns his hand on the stove, he doen’t put it back on the stove.
Winston was supposedly accepted to Stanford, so unless that was a sham, he’s not unintelligent. He just seems to have a blatant disregard for doing the smart thing, on and off the field. It’s not about his age.
What’s most disturbing to me is the good Reverend Jameis act. I mean everybody knew what Pac Man Jones was about when he came out of college. Dez Bryant too. They didn’t give you a bunch of righteous BS AND do questionable stuff on the side. That’s what is scary about JW, more and more he looks like a big phony act, and that really, really discounts the notion that he’s a great leader. He’s not even a great liar.
I don’t believe any of that has to do with his age. These are conscious decisions he makes to act like he’s something he’s not, then lie to cover up the real JW.
I don’t see JW as a great QB, just based on the on field things he does. As far as the off field stuff..Guess you just can’t fix stupid. If he had any integrity at all, he would come forward with a mea culpa, a real sincere one if he is capable of that. He’s old enough now.
June 24th, 2018 at 10:37 am
Mark2001…. funny I don’t remember Bill Clinton getting elected again?
June 24th, 2018 at 10:54 am
Bingo jmarkbuc
June 24th, 2018 at 10:56 am
My take is it was six games and dropped to three before the information of two Uber rides came out. That is, it was a “he said, she said” when it was six game dropped to three…but that may be off the table if the “they said, he said” turns out to be true. That is, could be worse for Jameis if he is confirmed to have lied about being alone with her and if it becomes more clearer that he more likely than not did what is alleged by the driver. I don’t think the league would give him three games for “not reporting.” Let’s see what the conditions for the three game suspension are. And all bets are off if the Glazers themselved got “new info” in the past three days.
June 24th, 2018 at 11:03 am
@mark2001…while I find the comparisons of this to Tru*p amusing…anything Tru*p admitted to or is accused of from his detractors was before he was president. Enough people apparently thought he was still not as dishonest, rotten, or whatever, as his opponent. There were two choices really.
Let’s get to reality and top dead center here. Jameis is not elected and it seems very well like he violated his code of conduct while IN THE POSITION…and this isn’t about Winston or Fitz. You can bring in a new guy any time.
June 24th, 2018 at 11:58 am
Fact is if his story is false, then he is on record lying to his employer, the fans, his teammates and the NFL. Probably more importantly, he is also on record basically calling the woman a liar which may open him up for a whole host of other problems.
All of this, if in a vacuum and no prior questions about his character, would likely be forgiven and forgotten even with the suspension. However, this is a team and city that stuck their neck out for JW.
As it’s been said here, we’ve all done stupid sh%t while drunk in our early 20’s that I am sure we are glad never saw the light of day. But JW has burned through multiple 2nd chances while in the public eye and still doesn’t seem to get it. I’d like to believe that most of us, if sitting on the golden ticket like JW, would have learned to keep it in our pants after such a close call at FSU.
June 24th, 2018 at 12:12 pm
Exactly Jaboo!
June 24th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Imagine if, after all of this, Jameis is not actually suspended…and that one report was a fabrication.
All these media outlets? They have nothing to report. They are just taking that one report by Adam and presenting opinions to get fans riled up.
The thing is…he isn’t getting suspended for groping, people. As they said in the video, sexual misconduct BEGINS with a six game suspension!
He is being suspended for failure to report, which carries a three game suspension. In other words, nothing was discovered to prove Jameis is guilty, but the NFL still had to save face by suspending him for a few games.
Grow up, people.
June 24th, 2018 at 1:18 pm
To all the fools comparing this to the POTUS please get a life . Get over it already . The POTUS being secretly recorded bragging and going on like guys do BSing each other, rah rah , has nothing to do with Winston’s actions . Where are all the Clinton references ? Just drop the political implications . His actions whatever they are , are his alone ! You can’t use “ the devil made me do it “ mantra .this whole fiasco is a filthy stain on the Buccaneer organization that the Glazers were aware of the potential . Hoping Winston can redeem himself out of this mess and prove he has a desire to do better in the future . It can only come from his heart and he owes the Tampa Bay community and his club ( top to bottom ) loyalty and humble redemption !
June 24th, 2018 at 2:53 pm
jmark…just fyi…tried to answer, but it isn’t here. BTW…studies have shown most men don’t really mature until they are in their thirties or forties. Obviously some never do. So the kind of maturity we need from him isn’t something to be easily achieved by young men.
June 24th, 2018 at 3:15 pm
mark2001,
Still gotta respectfully disagree. I know what I was doing when I was 22,23,24…not a saint by any stretch, but owned my own business, had started a family etc. etc. never molested anyone or gave a reason for there to be an insinuation that I molested anyone. No brushes with the law.
And I worked more than 6 months out of the year for far less money.
Jameis has been given pass after pass his whole life, that would be my guess. It’s too convenient to say he’s young. Plenty of us handled that just fine.
June 24th, 2018 at 4:21 pm
I suspect only three games because there just isn’t concrete evidence against Winston. The NFL will use the personal conduct policy meaning he failed to report the incident for the suspension. Don’t know this but seems logical.
June 24th, 2018 at 5:19 pm
Just to be clear…molesting women has nothing to do with maturity. I’m talking about hanging out with the guys, some of them not good influences, and doing some stupid things.
June 24th, 2018 at 5:51 pm
OK Mark
No Beef here. I hung out with the guys too, but there was a limit to the stupid things I would do…influence or no..
I wonder where his parents are/were in all of this.
June 25th, 2018 at 1:26 am
It could be very likely that Jameis was so drunk that he was in blackout mode and does not remember what happened. If the commish orders him to do some sort of alcohol treatment program then this is even more likely. That being said, being on auto pilot does not give JW a pass but it may explain why answers concerning this case have been so elusive.
June 25th, 2018 at 8:49 am
DAve
To me the answers are elusive because Jameis and his boys lied about the truth, thinking this would all go away.
JW, with Darby’s help having already dodged a bullet at FSU , probably thought “hey this is no problem, we got this”
If JW wants to clear it up because he is innocent, hold a press conference and lay it all out for us.